The Curse of the Ordinary - Oikawa Toru (Haikyuu!!)
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Music used:
Song 1 - Settlement (Haikyuu!!)
Song 2 - Adults (Haikyuu!!)
Song 3 - Goal (Haikyuu!!)
Song 4 - Settlement (Repeat) (Haikyuu!!)
Song 5 - Evolution (Haikyuu!!)
![The "villain" I wanted to win (Oikawa Toru) [REUPLOAD]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/cKpGHflOfNQ/mqdefault.jpg)
An important accompaniment video for this one: th-cam.com/video/Cft1WkFCMrM/w-d-xo.html
Please note that due to information presented later in the story (that I go explain in the above linked video) and a couple of key lines earlier, this is not a representation of what the show thinks about geniuses and talent, and instead what Oikawa thinks about it. Yet even still, Oikawa does indeed believe that he can defy this, make his talent bloom and become a world class player one day. This is evident given his lines right before the final point against Karasuno, and .. (SPOILERS!)
.. Given everything that happens by the end of the series. His "worthless pride" and faith in himself allowed him to overcome his self-imposed Curse of the Ordinary to stand on the grandest stage of them all.
Yep. Gotta have perspective and I'll use a football analogy. Not everyone can be a Messi, or Cristiano Ronaldo level athlete that simply look like gods compared to everyone else. But you can reach that tier right below it, or couple tiers below. Still fantastic enough to be a top class player, just not god level. I think Kageyama is god level talent, in the vein of Michael Jordan, Lebron James, Messi, Ronaldo, Giba, Thales Hoss, Yuji Nishida and so on, so it's really unfair to compare other player's talents to his.
Yeah like in the newer chapters in the manga, Kageyama was training with his grandpa when he was really young
This man really came back to this video to edit his comment. I can respect that
@@ismaeljrp1 don't forget kobe Bryant
Thanks for the video ! Do you know what's the background music ?
The games against Aoba Jhosai were way more emotionally driven and more impactful than vs Shiratorizawa.
Agreed, but don’t forget that Tsukki block T_T
I see where your coming from, but I disagree. With Aoba Johsai, it's like two teams fighting eachother as rivals, I think they actually said "arch-nemisis" in the anime. While with Shiratorizawa, no one thought Karasuno could win, but they fought their hearts out resulting in some emotional moments for Tsuki and the third years who brought glory for the "grounded crows". Shiratorizawa drew every ounce of effort out of the whole team and you could clearly see it in the game, while Aoba Johsai was emotional because you really felt like both teams deserved to win. At least this is how I see it. Also, Tsuki block.
Facts
@@sofirejdukowski665 one toucha!!
Tru with shiratorizawa I was hoping karasuno would win but with aoba jhosai I literally could not pick which team I wanted to win more
Am I the only person who thinks Oikawa would be a fantastic coach? I mean he is super intelligent and brings the best out of each player!
Never about that till reading this comment - he totally would!
He also sees the worst of his opponents and can predict them. Also a team player.
0tg That'd be awesome!! So OP 🤭
@@yumijuliennea.sabarillo9554 He isn't narcissistic.. Its just his rivalry against ushijima and kageyama and his lack of natural talent which he's always working to overcome with his immense hard work n his flamboyant, teasing personality just portrays him that way.
oikawa as the coach and iwaizume as the team's personal fitness trainer ✅✅✅✅✅✅
Talent is something you make bloom. Instinct is something you polish!
@@a-ha4940 Edited.
i love the moment he said that so fucking much😭😭😭
In which episode did he said that ? I cant find it :((((
@@HangTran-fp3yn season 2 episode 24 around 19:45
Mmmhhhhmmm, well said.
His "worthless pride" took him to Argentina. Can't be more than proud of him!
Anime onlys saying that he deserved better... They'll be happy once they see that final match :')
@Karen luvs Jesus I agree. I don't know how they hate him for no valid reason.
I am proud of him. When I read the chapter where he and Hinata met, I was screaming and crying because I felt so proud of him. He is finally in his dream team and against the players he thought of as potential opponents.
I really want to know the exact result of their match in the last chapter.
@@kshfqn4986 best part is before hinata became a part of the national team, they beat japan who at least probably had ushijima.
@@Caminopoi66 Yeah they did defeated Japan 2 times before
Are you talking about manga haikyuu? Because i don't think this happened in the anime yet
I sometimes wish oikawa was the main character
i ALWAYS wish oikawa was the main character:(
I was upset when he lost at the end of s2
Man I was rooting for both teams because it’s hard to root against him
@lmao hope he get that spinoff he went to argentina
Oikawa's strength is as a side character though.
Oikawa arc is easily the best part of Haikyuu
Nishinoya
He's literally the main antagonist for two seasons what did you expect
It’s definitely one of the best, but post anime Haikyu!! Is the actual fucking greatest man.
Kageyama and Hinata get some of the best development I’ve seen in a series
Shiratorizawa is topped not once but TWICE!!!!
That’s how insane post anime Haikyu!! Is.
*hinata crashes tsukishimas camp* aRe yOu sURe AbOUt ThAT?
@@ErenUzumaki can you really call him an antagonist? This is one anime where you love each characters and no one is kinda playing the villain part
lets be honestly, every oikawa stan have at least wrote 1 essay on him
and what of it?
I agree. One of the reasons being when he's treated wrongly
don’t call me out omg
Dang you didn't have to call me out like that
haha yes
I’m so glad this video was made. Oikawa is one of the most complex antagonists in sports anime and truly makes Haikyuu stand out from the others. He’s supposed to be the villain, he’s supposed to be flawed but he’s likeable even from the start. On one hand, he’s highly intelligent and attractive and therefore highly revered by everyone around him. Unlike Kageyama and Hinata, he’s wildly popular outside of his volleyball skills and we are made to believe he is set to achieve in life. He is “cool”. He has natural charisma and charm that contrasts perfectly to Kageyama’s stand-offish, unfriendly personality. And Oikawa isn’t cruel all the time. The creators do an amazing job at fully humanising him. He has a young nephew who we see he looks after, he helps Kageyama even though he’s someone he hates. He has more control over his disposition compared to the younger characters. Unlike Kageyama, he stays calm and collected, rarely letting the pressure on him show. He’s the captain, a proper, experienced leader of which Kageyama and Hinata are yet to achieve. But he’s also snide and nasty and competitive, bitter about anyone considered a “genius”. He’s smug and cunning, using his influence to his advantage and acting childish to taunt the opponent. Because of the injustice of his talents, he believes “his way” is the only right way. And because he is so revered in other aspects, you can tell it hurts even more that he has to try so hard just to keep up with others in the thing he loves most (volleyball). It’s this jealousy and envy, this unfair luck of the draw in life, his inferiority complex that make us relate to him and want him to succeed. In all aspects, he should be incredible at volleyball. He’s tall and lithe with long arms, he’s highly athletic and has power and he’s smart and creative and composed. But every volleyball skill he has, he’s had to work his absolute ass off for. I think everyone can relate to that in one way or another because no matter how perfect we seem, no one is good at everything. Most of the time, we have to work hard for what we want and start from nothing. The best part is that he shows us that we can succeed by using what we already have WITHOUT stupid made-up advantages (like being invisible cough cough looking at you Kuroko). He shows it’s not about having an edge over your opponent with some natural skill. It’s about using what’s already in your arsenal to your advantage. And that makes him incredibly likeable. I for one, was unsure who I should be rooting for when johsai and karasuno played for the second time. That rarely ever happens in sports anime. But it makes it feel REAL. You’re watching two schools play who equally deserve to win. Two opponents who work just as hard as each other. And the creators don’t use Oikawa or his backstory as a scapegoat for the story’s sake. He is a character in his own right and he is just as important as the protagonists. He even continually appears, watching karasuno’s other games and providing his commentary. They don’t just throw his backstory in for one episode and expect us to get it. He’s scattered throughout the series, not just as an opponent but a true double to Kageyama and Hinata. We see him grow without even knowing it and before long we’re starting to actually like him. I can’t say there are many other sports anime that have been able to do the same thing so seamlessly. I believe out of the whole of haikyuu, he is the freshest and most original character and for that, he’s my favourite.
(Sorry if I got any facts wrong, it’s been a while) (and sorry for writing an entire essay that no one will read)
I totally agree to it....u have expressed my thoughts beautifully through your words
I read your words. However I still don't like Aikawa, no matter how people praise him. His qualities are top notch but his attitude reminds me of the attitude I'm trying to get rid of. He's relatable to all of us but in an annoying way.
@@aliam4993 if you don't like his attitude it's your opinion many people love his attitude he is friendly to his friends and teammates and dorky,serious when the situation needs it and help his opponent (he opened kageyama's eyes when he came to him for advice)even when he taunts them in field
Best analysis ever.
you managed to sum up a lot of what i was thinking lmao :)
So many anime masquerade their protagonist as ordinary when they're actually the most special person of the cast. I appreciate your analysis because it showcases the harsh reality of being "ordinary" while still leaving a glimmer of hope for those who persevere
Glad you liked it! It's an extremely precarious middle ground there - a blend of realism and idealism.
He has an amazing serve, sure, but that really doesn't undercut anything I said, nor anything the story said. That serve was the result of hard work, not talent. Like I said, Oikawa is special in a number of ways. Interpersonal intelligence, knowledge of the game, hard work ethic, etc. But as the story displays, Oikawa has ordinary volleyball talent. People are just born better than him. He isn’t extraordinarily gifted, so his talent level is ordinary. I’ll change the title the minute that a word is invented in between “ordinary” and “extraordinary,” but until then, Oikawa will have ordinary volleyball skill because, as the story says, he’s “not a genius.” He’s not extraordinary. Also, I dunno why you’re assuming that I didn’t read the manga. I did, and even if I didn’t, the anime says this all anyway.
*Thus, what separates the two are their mentalities.*
That’s not quite true, and the text backs me up. It’s continuously stated within the story that talent, ability and volleyball aptitude is the difference between the two. Oikawa has a better mentality than Kageyama. He’s more mature and more of a leader, and he knows the role of a setter better as shown when he had to teach Kageyama how to improve with Hinata.
*Oikawa may bring 100% out of his team but Kageyama brings out more than 100%, and this is a common theme within the manga.*
I said almost exactly the same thing in the video. And again, this is not just a manga thing. It’s said in the anime too.
I don’t know why you continuously misinterpret me - it doesn't seem like you read what I replied nor listened to what I said in the video, and I'll explain why in the second paragraph. Firstly, I never implied anything about black or white, binary situations like you’re saying just because I provided you with the definition for ordinary. I'm aware that talent exists on a spectrum, but this is just a title of a video. I'm not going to title this "The Curse of Those Who Are Not Geniuses." Like, I dunno what to say. If you’re not extraordinary in some facet, you’re ordinary, regardless of that spectrum. Just ignore the title if that’s your problem and focus on what I actually said, because what I said is not “black or white.”
Aside from that, I said within the video multiple times that Oikawa is a wonderful player with aptitude in several areas. The only thing that holds him back is his volleyball talent potential, for which the story backs me up on multiple occasions. I know that raw talent isn’t the only way that talent manifests and I don’t know who or what you think you’re arguing against. I literally said within the video and the comment that replied to you that he’s special in several other ways. But raw talent is the factor that holds Oikawa back from having a ceiling like Kageyama. And that is his goal, what he fixates on, so OF COURSE I’m going to emphasize it more than his talent in other areas. It’s the entire point of his character arc and it's the reason that he has such an emotional journey. And yes, volleyball is a team sport, so Oikawa can still achieve incredible things despite the relative lack of talent compared to phenoms. Yet again, that is literally a line from the video. I said this.
I gave much more nuance to this character and situation than you implied. You’re focusing on the semantics so much that you’re strawmanning me and not listening to what I said, and that’s not productive at all.
@emerl98 Dude, he literally acknowledged that Oikawa has talent but not in pure volleyball skills. He said that Oikawa is an above average player, surely but since he doesnt have an exceptional talent hes not talented enough to fall into the category of talented. Hes not arguing that Oikawa has no talent at all but that it pales in comparison to those who DO have talent
emerl98
“He is ordinary for a lack of better words“ is what he said. Isn‘t that enough for you?
In this analysis, he compared Oikawa to other, more talented, players. Therefore every time he described Oikawa, it was relative to those who had more raw talent. There were also half a dozen points about how exceptional Oikawa is.
Adding to the unfairness, oikawa has an unmentioned knee injurry (one of his knee supporters are apparently used for injuries) and he was late to the first seijou/karasuno match because he was "injured from practicing too hard" and it was most likely because he knew kageyama was going to be there against him. Given oikawa's extreme passion for volleyball i doubt his knee injury wont be anything temporary since he's always pushing himself to win. It's also most probably the worst type of disadvantage a volleyball player could get, and he had it at the price of working as hard to be at the same level as ushijima and kageyama... I really hope things get better for oikawa in the future (if we'll ever see him play again)
I thought it was mentioned somewhere in the anime that he gave himself the knee injury practicing too much.
I'm pretty sure it's explicitly stated in both the anime and the manga that he had a (minor) ANKLE injury (see: chapter 13, iirc), which is what made him late to the practice match. Fans have interpreted his differently-colored knee pads as being a knee injury without any further evidence. Not that this diminishes anything about his character - just that his character is plenty deep without people adding BS extras with no real basis, and doing so only cheapens it.
Cassie O thank you!!!!
@@cassieo376 while i haven't seen any direct evidence to say he has that fandom knee injury, i disagree that adding or theorizing about it cheapens anything. if it was just a random 'oh he did worse off because he's injured' thing it would be different-- that would take away from the hard-hitting message the video talks about-- but if you look at the injury, as most do, as a result of his own overzealous actions then it fits rather well into the narrative of him trying too hard to be individualistic and his general jealously leading to negative outcomes. Him being warned against overworking himself (with injury being the obvious concern) is directly mentioned in the flashback, partly to show that kind of unchecked drive is unhealthy and will only lead to being worse off. And often enough physical problems are used as metaphors for broader internal problems. So the knee injury could be a physical manifestation of the character flaws that caused it as well as a tangible representation of limitations (that his rivals don't suffer from). Obviously, you don't have to accept a read where this injury even exists, but i do think it's an interesting concept regardless of if the creator intended it ( +1 for death of the author). At the very least, it's more thematically interesting than giving him different colored knee pads in the character design process for... fashion points?
Man injuries suck. Had to train through a back injury for a few months and it was so hard to improve as I couldn’t even dive to receive or whenever I used my back when I served or spike the pain would be horrible. I really feel for oikawa. Not being a talented player, and getting injured from working too much, it really really sucks.
There's a fantastic sequence in the manga that I'll try not to spoil too much. In a match at Nationals, Karasuno have their backs against the wall. Together Kageyama and Tanaka pull off an incredible move that has major implications for the growth of both players. Celebrations ensue and then we cut to someone watching the match on a mobile. Who else but Oikawa? The first panel shows him watching the match with a serious and focused expression outdoors. He then rips his earphones out, stuffs then away and begins running. The last shot of him is just of his face, wearing a small determined grin. He's not done, not by any means, even if he has to fight against those geniuses born with natural talent.
I loved that sequence.
Chapter?
@@ddoshii 285
아름다운ᴘᴀʀᴋ Do you mean underrated?
we're getting this chapter animated by next week!
It's ironic that you talk about how insecure Oikawa is about geniuses like Kageyama because Kageyama felt the exact same way (maybe moreso) about Oikawa.
Kageyama told Hinata that he thought that he wouldn't be able to beat Oikawa as a setter because Oikawa is exactly what Kageyama isn't; a team player, someone who inspires and brings out the best in his team-mates, which Kageyama struggles to do. It's partly this reason Kageyama cracked under pressure in their first (official) match against Oikawa, and Kageyama's insecurity was only intensified when he saw his old schoolmates who used to hate playing alongside him, have fun playing alongside Oikawa.
Even after Kageyama beat Oikawa in their rematch, Kageyama still admitted that no one scared him more than Oikawa. Ushijima still viewed Oikawa as the better setter, and it affected Kageyama so much that, even after he beat Ushijima, his last words to him were "I'll make you say that I'm a better setter than Oikawa!".
Guess it just goes to show that everyone (even naturally-talented geniuses) face insecurity.
yeah kageyama is actually also grinding for a high peak like oikawa and they end up motivating and pushing each other to new limits
Yeah i honestly agree with what you said, i think in reality talent its not that much of a winning factor, its more of the mentality and hardwork you put as an individual and also as a team, it doesnt matter how talented a player is, if he doesnt have any other player he aims to surpass he will suddenly fall down either for their own ego or their lack of new goals as an individual, also i think even being ordinary just with hardwork you can really beat a talented player individually
The reason karasuno win is because they have newer weapons, the only one that got better in seijo as you can see is Oikawa (he have a reason to want to be better). Oikawa could have pushed his team, learn sth new with them, start stregth and conditioning training. Increase vertical jumps, spiking power,...
@@Chikistrikis05 How About Tatsuya Himuro from kuroko no basket.
@@Chikistrikis05 How about Tatsuya Himuro from kuroko no basket.
Haikyuu episode titke: Oikawa Tooru is not a genius
Me, crying: I KNOW, OKAY??
wow i am suprised nobody commented *title
i feel ya
not a genius bruh he's in my eyes in the top 10 character in this show
ANIME SI His character is supposed to be the embodiment of the best that an ordinary man can be for this show.
Top 5 setter in japan. Not talented sure XD 😂
It's sad that most people in the fandom doesn't realize this things in Oikawa as a character and they just see his "trashy" personality, when he is probably the most human character on the show... What I really love is that despise his "Curse of the Ordinary" he is probably (at least so far in the anime, I can't talk about manga) the most respected player in Haikyuu... Thank you for this video!
No problem, thanks for watching it!
No i understand his character, i just dont excuse his horrible actions/attitude because of it.
Edit:Damn yall so sensitive about me not loving oikawa as a character lmao. Just because hes relatable doesn't make him a good person. Im not saying he deserves hate or that its wrong to like him but he has done bad things and he does have a :trashy personality" to the point where his teammates point it out. Does that mean i can't see that hes a good character? No, i just dont like what he did. Please Hop off my ass and learn how to take an opinion.
Edit 2: after the timeskip hes really matured and even grown on me a bit. Also his personality is what made him a great antagonist at the start.
Anyone that ever competed, be it in sports or anything else, can relate to him. He trash talks, make fun of who is inferior to him, but he never humiliates them, he never crosses a line. He is justing enjoying the moment while he still can, while he's above. Eventually everyone stops being the best, even the most talented human will one day be surpassed, be it because of age, because of new technics, a new genius or whatever. Oikawa seems to me just like a really good rival to have. You hate him while he's on top, and that makes you want to become better, so you can finally be the one talking down on him.
Yeah, I guess truly trash talking is not exactly what I wanted to mean, since it really disrespects and humiliate people. It's more like a friendly banter, like saying that someone have to work a lot to get to your level or that you were sure you would win. And I think that's closer to what he does than something like really insulting the people that he beats.
Noelle trash talk is part of literally every sport there is, if you’re playing to be the best you damn well know you’ll be talking trash/getting trash talked yourself. Look at MJ or Kobe...
When I first watched Haikyuu!! I hated Oikawa, not because of shitty personality or the fact that I can't stand pretty boys, but because deep down I resonated with him far too much and it terrified me. I saw myself in him, in his thoughts, in his habits but most of all in his insecurities. The curse of being ordinary, the curse of knowing that people around you are better at something that you want to dedicate your whole life to, for reasons that are out of your control hurts so much, it's so painful that I can't describe it. When he said "Don't you ever forget my worthless pride" I felt those words, I knew what they meant even before I finished reading the subtitles, because they were mine, they were my words, my voice and I was amazed how emotional the scene and its delivery made me . Oikawa Tooru inspires me to keep going, more than that Furudate Haruichi inspires me to keep going. I will continue towards my own day in the sun and though I may not be the brightest star in the sky: I will shine nonetheless.
Thank you for this wonderful video, you've got a new subscriber ♡
Thanks very much for sharing that, it's an extremely painful yet relatable situation. Glad you enjoyed the video!
What episode does he say "don't you ever forget my worthless pride "
@@saturnringer267 I think it's the final episode of season 2
Lol same! But Oikawa reminds me of my failures of not pursuing things through so I still don't like him.
Oikawa reminds me of people trying to bring others down rather than rise higher. Im saying this as in instead of him looking up to his improvement he just looks at others and says that it isnt enough.
"The fine line that separates the elite... From the aspiring..."
Amazing quote right there.
Haikyuu is one of those shows that looks childish at first glance but when watching it and digging deep into his story and characters you realize that it's a rare masterpiece nowadays, someday this show might even dethrone "Hajime No Ippon" as my best sports anime of all time.
It has already dethrone it for me and many others
"Looks childish at first glance" isn't that Anime in general? Lmao
No way it's gonna dethrone Hajime no Ippo. It's more realistic and the character development is unique. Besides I don't understand why people are saying oikawa isn't talented. He isn't the most talented player but he is more talented than many players.
Antony I love the living fuck out of Hajime no ippo! Greatest sports anime ever!
you are completely right my friend
0:29 Legit thought he dubbed Oikawa for a second
same xD
lmfao same, legit thought this was one of those aesthetic edits w bgms you never heard of
same lol
I almost clicked out lol
Another dub hater? Tsk
What made me love Oikawa even more is his appearance in the recent manga chapters.
*spoilers for manga chapters 374*
The fact he kept following his dream and playing in a foreigner team is great and his and Hinata's relationship development from rivals to friends is pretty amazing. He lifted Hinata's spirit when he's feeling down being alone in Rio and I was finally able to see Oikawa setting the ball to Hinata when they're playing beach volleyball. Or even better HINATA SETTING TO OIKAWA. MY LIFE IS NOW COMPLETE. And when he called Hinata "Shouyou" literally got me screaming in my bed. Oikawa is great, and you can't really hate him despite him sometimes being an a-hole.
yessss!!! i love how he and kageyama still watch each others' games (even though they deny it) and they still see each other as rivals.
In all honesty, when he said he’ll come back and beat everyone, I hope that happens. I want to see his talent bloom and make everyone surprised
Cici Li Oikawa even gave him hints when it came to setting, Hinata now uses what Oikawa told him when it comes to playing indoor volleyball alongside what skills he gained from playing beach volleyball
Oikawa? I only know Ken.
I love oikawa ever since and i loved him even more when they become teammates in black jackals. Hard work pays it all some day.
Let's just say I cried more when Oikawa's team lost to karasuno.
Sameee
I couldn't watch the full episode. I just couldn't stand to see him and sejoh cry.
personally, as a POS, I didn't cry during haikyuu at all and i definitely did not feel sorry for aoba johsai. It did not feel like aoba johsai losing was more impactful to them then any other team that lost and i didn't REALLY have an emotional connection to the characters. Even with someone like Kageyama, I do not feel an emotional connection to. Some people say something is wrong with me, I disagree. What are your thoughts?(I have only cried once when consuming media(I've consumed quite a lot) : when I read a book at a young age which i don't know the name of that has a boy who had a kid at a young age and went to juvy and was seperated from his parents and then the father comes to the house he stayed at with a shotgun, basically kidnaps the boy and they have a car crash killing both of them.)
@@cantripleplaysthat's just you being kinda boring.
@@cantripleplaysnext thing you tell me is that you didn’t even tear up at the ending of Mugen Train.
So many characters had their own little arc in Haikyuu and you’re telling me you didn’t feel any emotion towards any of them?
As Marina once said: "I feel like I'm the worst so I always act like I'm the best"
If someone asks me what is Oikawa's personality that's basically what I'm going to say
Agreed.
(That whole song strangely fits him.
Also the line “I’m now becoming my own self fulfilled prophecy.” with his inferiority complex and him seeing his own ‘defeat’ as inevitable)
@@user-hb4zz4gh5e exactlyyy
that is perfect way to describe him. Also i cannot bring myself to hate him- i never saw him as an actual "bad person" like yeah he acts cocky and like a jerk at times but something told me that was not really "him" per say. Him saying "thank you for these three years" and crying to his team says enough of who deep down he really is. Haikyu has some great realistic and human characters it's amazing.
Ive already spoiled myself the ending to Oikawa's journey and Im honestly quite proud of him. He probably is one of my fave characters in the anime. To me he is very relatable in terms of being a great leader to his teammates.
He played for brazil to fight japan. Even the actual Brazil team made him an official member haha www.google.com/amp/s/sea.mashable.com/culture/11731/this-manga-character-is-now-an-actual-member-of-the-argentina-volleyball-team%3famp=1
I used to hate him but now he's my all-time favourite anime character. I relate to him SO much as a former athlete. I know how it feels when 'geniuses' easily perform skills that took you years to master. I know how it feels to have to work ten times as hard for a decent chance at winning. I know how it feels to never be good enough. *I know how it feels to not be a genius.*
Tooru is a character that is so similar to me, in his insecurities, doubts, fears and skills, and he inspires me to do better. Seijoh is my favourite team because of a reason; Tooru was the setter, the glue that brought them together and created a near-invincible dynamic. In the end, they lost but he STILL DIDN'T GIVE UP. If that isn't admirable determination, I don't know what is.
In short, give the boy a chance. You might end up loving him as much as I do.
Ladies, gentlemen and non-binary fellows, Oikawa Tooru has carved a permanent place in my heart and my life.
Yep! The way Oikawa is initially presented makes it feel as though we as an audience are meant to despise his character and root against him. Instead, I fell in love with him almost instantaneously, and he's my favourite character because of his level of complexity and my ability to relate to him on such a large scale. Haikyuu!! is truly a work of art, something I will treasure and hold dear for the remainder of my life.
Hardwork will always overcome natural talent when natural talent does not work hard enough.
@Crazy Fanboy but you have to realize there are limits.Its the harsh truth.There are times where your simply not good enough and thats okay.You can find something else to do.
But what happens when the natural talent works just as hard
yes. but in oikawa's state, his genius rivals are equally working hard like him, and it frustrates him.
@Crazy Fanboy Im not saying to not work hard.Its just that when you try your best and it doesnt work out you need to accept the fact that your not good enough.An anime called ping pong the animation addressed this.The character sakuma in the anime tried everything and he lost and he was furious.But later he just realized he didnt have talent.Simple as that.Nothing more nothing less he just didnt have enough talent to reach the top.What im saying is you shouldnt make a big deal out of it.So he quit ping pong and found a better thing to do and embraced it.Im just saying that there are times where your simply not good enough and that its ok.Knowing when to give up is also moving forward other than mindlessly working on a goal youll never reach.If you have the talent I say go for it.Make use of the talent and be passionate about it.But you have to know your limits and you cant just sugarcoat it as you just have to work harder.Thats not how it works thats not how reality works.Im not trying to be pessimistic im just teeling you that some people just arent mean for certain things.And knowing when to give up is good.And that you can always find something else to do.
@Crazy Fanboy thats alright.After youve tried everything you will then have no regrets.It will give some closure to your mind.Some people are just good at sports and some are bad at it.Some people are good at math and some or bad at it etc.If your truly passionate about what you do I say go for it.Its just that sometimes knowing when to give up is important.
7:00 Oikawa knew two things at the same time:
1. He won but only through hard work
2. He lost at the same time, because he wasn't talented like Tobio.
6:58
I always loved Oikawa but I didn't know why. This was a great explanation of why i do
I'm glad it helped!
Are you also completely identified with Oikawa's situation? :(
@@edgarcu12 Yeah, pretty much
same here
Same
After watching the shiratorizawa team analysis and now about oikawa, and finally I understand more about ushiwaka saying about his 'worthless pride' and wanting him to go to shiratorizawa is asking him to resign to curse of ordinary and just support the extraordinary.
Thank you for bringing more meaning to the story for me.
Considering the playstyle of Shiratorizawa thats prolly what Ushijima meant. I can be wrong but the thing is I dont think Oikawa will thrive in Shiratorizawa like Ushijima kept on saying. Oikawa's plays are very flashy. That's not how Shiratorizawa wants their setter to be. If he did go to Shiratorizawa he's prolly just gonna be another Semi. Oikawa doesn't fit Shiratorizawa's playstyle. Drill that into your head Ushijima HAHAHAHAH
@@user-jy5ih8gp6d EXACTLY I tried to explain this to my friend but didn't know how to put it into words xD now I do thanks :)
I find it interesting that both Oikawa and Kageyama actually both find the other one better. Like Oikawa may be confident but he acknowledges-or thinks-that Kageyama is a better setter than him, which infuriates him but at the same time drives him to train even harder. At the same time, Kageyama obviously still sees Oikawa as someone he needs to surpass, to the point that even after winning against Shiratorizawa, that still remained to be his goal (i.e. he wanted Ushiwaka to acknowledge him as the better setter).
Edit: Even at present/post-timeskip, Oikawa still appears in Kageyama's inner monologues (we see Oikawa's back at the part when Kageyama thinks of all the great players he gets to play with and remembers his grandpa telling him that if he were to get really good, someone better will come to find him). Maybe they're battling on equal footing now, maybe he still sees Oikawa as someone he needs to surpass (I find it symbolic that we are shown Oikawa's back, they're not face-to-face unlike the others). Either way, they still obviously influence each other and I find that beautiful.
I know this might be a weird question but are you a girl? I always imagine haikyuu fan girls as like these crazy shippers who only care do the look of characters and not for the story or characters like you. Happy to see some normal thinking girls who likes haikyuu
Awesome analyse of Oikawa. This was exactly the draw of his character for me and having it put into more eloquent words is nice to hear. But if Oikawa had a gift, I would say it's his natural charisma, yeah it doesn't exactly line up with his passion but leadership ability is something useful in all walks of life. Ushijima and Kageyama so far have shown that volleyball is all they're good at whereas Oikawa's natural charm gives him an advantage in most areas outside of the sports realm. But yeah, as far as talent goes, all he has his hard work and average ability. Can't imagine how that must feel when Oikawa pretty much lives for volleyball.
Looking forward to the next video.
Thanks very much! And awesome comment.
@@Aleczandxr I've never seen this show, but listening to you talking about Oikawa reminds me of Shane Battier, my favorite NBA role player back in the day. Dude was a very average athlete who basically had only two moves on offense, but he was the ultimate glue guy who made any team he was on better.
Give this article a read. I think you'll enjoy it, especially his matchup with the much much more talented Kobe Bryant.
www.nytimes.com/2009/02/15/magazine/15Battier-t.html
To be honest oikawa is actually a better player than ushijima. Oikawa can spike, he has the best serves, he can block and he has the best setups as he brings out the best in his team. All ushijima can do is jump high and spike with absolute power while everything else is done by his overpowered team
Oikawa would be a great manager in the adult working world with those qualities
@@saturnringer267 agree
Bro I have never cared about this show and have never watched it, yet i cared through this whole video and am now thinking of sitting through the whole show. Your a god.
That's fantastic haha. Hope you like it if you do check it out!
Haikyuu is genuinely amazing and every single character is so fleshed out which is rare for an anime. Even minor characters don't feel minor. Do yourself a huge favor and watch it!!
It's worth it it's actually fantastic
Haikyuu is a masterpiece, the character development and animation is 10/10
I agree... please do more on the other anime so it make me understand their characther...
As an ordinary person myself with a severe lack of drive, this is completely relatable. I've always felt like I've lacked that certain quality I can't help but notice in others, that 'spark' so to speak. It's that something that makes me feel it separates the people who are truly alive inside from the people, like me, who seemingly are just the exact opposite. And I can vouch for your exact words; it *is* agonizing to accept. Life's not fair in the slightest, but just because that is doesn't mean you should just call it quits. After all, I'm a 5'6 and a half foot guy, yet somehow still managed to find myself happily married to a woman who loves me for me, despite all my flaws. Take a page out of Oikawa's book; don't give up!
SeraphimDragon if you are talentless and also lazy, it is entirely your own fault.
ギドラ if you have talent and are lazy it’s also entirely your fault lol
i feel a similar way. whenever i do something, i cant help but notice that it never ends up being "good", or sometimes i just cant do it. so it hurts when i just cant find my thing, or ever even think that i somehow could be #1 at anything. it really fucking sucks
I am the polar opposite, I have always got this fire inside me, but it keeps getting easily put out by talented people who beat me with ease sometimes even without any fire inside them. I envy them but I have grown to embrace the curse of ordinary. Makes it all the more fun!
I feel that the people who realize that they are ordinary and work hard to achieve their ambitions learn the value of working towards a goal. It's a way of life that is hard to acquire and one of the few "skills" that can be cultivated at any point of time in life, most likely out of desperation.
Who remembers the original unintentional release~
Only 90’s kids.
Been waiting for months
The Hunter x Hunter 2011 Dickriding Association I do
I don't get it
That comment makes me feel as if it was a child born by a condom fail lol
Now that the manga ended. He was the true winner imo
This is really a great video. It really hits how I see Oikawa. As much as I'm happy that Karasuno won the match, it really pains me that Oikawa (and Iwa-chan) is in his third year and lost his card to beat Ushikawa. I lost it when he cried after. It really is unfair for people who have worked hard to not reap what they sought but I hope this is not the last time we'll see Oikawa plays volleyball.
Thank you - and if the manga is anything to go by, I’m sure we’ll see him playing again in some capacity!
Isn't this the part where naruto comes in
"THEN SCREW FATE. I'LL CREATE MY OWN PATH"!
Well Naruto is the son of the fourth Kage and has a Biju inside of him... I guess he had advantages from the beginning. Lee on the other hand would be a better comparison
Ouonouan Désiré but Lee lost.
Deku be like " I'll twist that future "
@@ouonouanwilfried-desire7758 dont know, naruto's a special case though, right ?
hes an orphan and a murderer to almost every other adult in his whole childhood
and the kid would probably say the same thing even then
the third was a negligent old man and naruto was barely able to control chakra due to the seals on the nine tails hindering his chakra
the nine tails was never safe or even an actual advantage for him until a lot later and his sage mode was what technically almost made him the big hero
though your points still stands of course ,just naruto did also do a lot by just bulshitting his way into his peoples hearts
the famous and already patented "talk no jutsu"
well lee is the better comparison in many ways but
back in his day guy smacked some madara ass real good
@@unculturedswine5583
Not really Naruto lost his underdog value the moment it was revealed that he is the child of prophecy
It's like his future will either result in good or bad for whole world which ain't the path for ordinary
" There is nothing more awful, insulting, and depressing than banality. "
Anton Pavlovič Čechov
Ahhh why'd you have to remind me that Oikawa lost argh now I want to cry
I don’t think he’s ordinary - his kind of talent is just different than Kageyama’s. He can make any team function smoothly within an hour of meeting them - which is something Kageyama will never be able to do, and he said so himself. Did Oikawa “work” on his talent with people? Nope - it just comes to him naturally, and someone not talented in the area will never be able to repeat the feat. The main difference between the two is that Oikawa, despite the shallow image he presents, is reflective and therefore he doubts himself, while Kageyama doesn’t. Or rather - Oikawa is frustrated that he doesn’t have both talents, and Kageyama notices he’ll never have both and is satisfied with his own. He has a one-track mind - which is good because he never questions whether he’d be able to do something - he just goes and does it and isn’t bothered by anything else. That’s the power of focus.
I honestly think we’ve become somewhat crazed by this notion of “talent”. Everyone wants to be “gifted”. Well, to me it seems that the most remarkable people in history never gave much thought to talent - they just did what they loved to do, never caring about what anyone else thought about them or their work. If there’s a formula for happy life, that’s it. Hinata and Kageyama are examples of that attitude, while Oikawa is an example of what worrying about your “worth” will do to you.
As I see it, the main message of the series is to nourish not competition, but the idea that both you and your opponent can be great in different ways. The emphasis is on the playful element of team sports, on cooperation and helping your opponents grow, not on defeating them. It’s why I love it.
no ,you will see it yourself when you met someone with real talent.
its like comparing one beautiful person to an ugly one. yes beauty is relative and the ugly can somehow get prettier with make up or skin care or whatever, but it will never truly beat a true natural beauty.
@@bratitu5601 And why do you assume I haven't? I have; I know many people with talent. I have some as well. I've also been anxious, worried, I've compared myself to others - and all of that kept me from truly being what I can be. What I wrote comes from experience. Not comparing oneself to others, but acknowledging the variety of talents and personalities is what makes us free to be who we are. Then we shine. That is also when anxiety evaporates.
Besides, no field of human action is reserved only for the elite. Should we give up love for music because we're not Bachs and Beethovens of the world? Would we be happier that way? What counts is loving what you do and having fun, and allowing everyone else to do the same. There's no excellence without fun and no fun without freedom. As Hinata says in the manga: "I understand: being good means being free."
Oikawa is not. Yet. I want him to be, though. It's the best thing in the world, better than volleyball or anything in particular, really - although it's through the particular that we come to understand it.
Thank you!!! A lot of people believe Oikawa is ordinary b/c that’s what he believes himself to be. But the show showed that he was a super strong player that both his teammates and his rivals respected. That is no ordinary. His character has more depth than just an ordinary trying hard to beat the best.
I don’t understand how people can say oikawa isnt gifted when his serve is literally god like
@@octoeight2362 He trained himself to hell to get where he was so, perhaps he had to work for his talent. :)
The final chapter of the manga gives Oikawa the ending the he deserves.
Yesss! That was masterfully done. It really felt like the author metaphorically tying his character arc with a finely threaded ribbon.
Oikawa is one of my all time favorite anime character, he is depicted with such realness in my opinion. This video really exposed everything I loved about the character and more... THANK YOU, all your haikyuu videos are on point
Awesome, I'm glad it did that for you. Much obliged!
One could argue that you don´t usually seek what you are already talented at, but what you want to be good at, which sets you up for the wall that is innate talent. However, it´s also true that talent is a very blurry thing. I have been told I have some talent for drawing, but most people weren´t there when I was a kid and drew all the time. When you look at others, you only see the results of years of polishing that particular skill; no one becomes a master by accident.
With that said, being short in basketball is pretty shitty ( ._.)
lol i feel u
Hahahaha self hate is best hate
Nah, I'm 6 flat. I ain't got talent
I feel you bruh. Used to play basketball ball in middle school at 5’0. Now I play vball in HS at 5’3...short athletes unite!!
Drawing is so often a thing that people assume is purely a talent based thing, however in truth much of artistic skill is mechanical and teachable but time consuming.
This is why Oikawa is my favorite character of Haikyuu, because he proved everybody that you can be a monster even if you aren’t talented.
I think the people who dislike Oikawa usually only see his "ego" or they see the deeper part of his personality and dislike him because they relate to him and see him and the worst part of themselves. 😳
But that's understandable because I never want to tell people that I like Oikawa because I can relate to him, because not everyone sees the inferiority complex and I would hate to have to explain that.
There’s was this girl , she’s my friend but ehh details . She was better in every aspect in terms academic intelligence I would study and try my hardest to understand something she picked it up within seconds the amount of time it took me to solve one problem she finished like 10. It didn’t matter how long I stayed up to study how many times I skipped going to lunch to sit in class with the teacher or skipped hanging out after school to sit in class and work I couldn’t ever get a better score then her. She picked up things so fast I thought it was inhuman at times but she’s just gifted like that . I realized it was never gonna be easy for me like it was for her it pissed me off still dose in all honesty my head just doesn’t connect to things like that specially in academics.
It’s something I’m envious of ...it wasn’t only school but other things too like sports didn’t matter how hard I tried she was better .She seemed to be so good at everything with ease while I was here going ham trying to improve at the end of the day it left me feeling sorta less then but my pride also never let me except defeat so I keep trying and doing my best because one day I’ll beat her in something . Anyways Oikawa is my favorite character in haikyuu and like top five overall for anime’s for his sheer determination and pride he’s not this natural born talent he is not especially special but he has the courage to try anyways and doesn’t lay down and except defeat . He keeps chasing a dream no matter the disadvantages and that’s some admirable shit.
Has that day come yet?
I relate with you so much.
I understand how you feel. Me and my best friend were friends for years in school. When we both graduated we moved on different paths in our lives, but we had some contact together.
She moved on FASTER than me!
She found a boyfriend, started a job, got a car and started her dream university...
While I got stuck behind having none,but worked for a little time and went to an institute to work as a therapist.
THIS WAS THE TIME I realised how Oikawa felt, knowing how it feels to never be enough no matter what I do.
It's just that there are people that move faster than you do and that hurts...
This video makes me wish so much that we get a series focused on Oikawa and volleyball in college
i was drawn to oikawa since the beginning. him and i are very alike. we’re both ordinary and hate it. we’ll never be a master at something but just good at it. there will always be someone better than us. i hate that characteristic in myself, but what makes oikawa so like able is that despite the circumstances, he still perseveres. i’m attracted to that perseverance because i don’t have it. i feel as if many people probably relate to me in a sense.
I 100% agree
"Have you found the limits of your abilities even though your body technique and mind haven't been perfected?"
This quote has inspired me so much, I have ingrained this quote to my life.
Every setback I faced I told myself it's ok I'm not at my peak I still have room for improvement. I grew less envious of others and faced myself more seriously and every day has been fulfilling as I strive to improve myself
You said all the things that I had in my mind for Oikawa. There were 2 things that made me realize how great of a character he is.
First, was when he accepted the fact that one day Kageyama will definitely defeat him but he decided that it would not be today, shows that even if had defeated Kageyama he will fight again in order to maintain his best. He is more interested in beating his past self and constructing himself to be the very best version of himself. He grades himself with his own self.
Second, how he handled his defeat against Karasuno. This showed how deep his character runs and how he handles the different position he holds. Here he was the Captain and not a Setter. He didn't cry for the loss no matter how much it hurts him but he did his best to support with his head high accepting all the effort that the team had put in the match. His thank you for the past three years shows how much he has grown as a player and as a human, his team was the one (specially the third years) who kept him at pace and at the same time helped him to grow that he was able to deal all defeats and short-comes with equal dedication.
Oikawa is a person who doesn't talk but leads his team with his actions and that is the reason why his team does everything in their will power to match those actions. Oikawa is such a great character and not just a typical antagonist. He is very well crafted, nicely layered and beautiful placed in front of you. In spite of being ordinary, he being a threat to all possible strong teams and geniuses puts all his hard work into pay because there ain't a single player in the Haikyuu universe who doesn't respect his hard work and not in awe of it. Damn, I started crying while remembering him.
Oikawa : * has a deep well developed character that needs more understanding and more love like komaeda*
The fandom for such characters:
"Iwa-chan are you my mom"
"Well i dont mind if you want to see me naked"
Lets be honest sometimes I feel like people don't deserve to watch things like this, cause I feel like they're watching it cause the characters are attractive. I feel like the author thinks that he didn't get the message out there clear enough, thank god there are videos like this.
Hate these fangirls. Only care for the looks of characters and shippings. And they always saying shit like "suga is the mom". Are there even normal thinking fangirls who also watch it for story and character?
@@esther1900 I agree.The haikyuu fandom just sucks in my eyes
@@idk-vm9wx As a girl myself, I can say that those "fangirls" are the same ones who get pressed when boys say they only watch shows like this for the attractive characters and not the actual plot.
@@esther1900 oh man.
Same with bnha stans. They hating Mineta because he is perverted (this isn't the first time a character is perverted btw. They probably watched 2 anime)
But they are the same fangirls who thirsting over highschool boys in bnha and making ships where these characters fuck each other....
I've watched this video several times, and it's message still hits home on every viewing. These lessons are the kind of things kids need to hear when they're young, but that few ever get; especially in our current society. Thank goodness we've got anime that pick up the slack by entertaining and giving some real life teachings.
Oh man well said
The Seijoh third years should have gone to the nationals at least once, in my opinion. They weren't THAT much weaker than Shiratorizawa, but I can get that they lost for plot reasons. But I still love them with all my heart, even if we barely see them anymore.
This concept of "talent" is explored again in the manga, and they say something like "if they told someone to do a thing ten times, the people with talent would think 'but what if I did that like this" and do the same thing 20 or 100 times, or ten times but better". I think this concept is very important and explored in depth very well in Haikyuu!!
Best character in Haikyuu along with Hinata and Kageyama and Tsukishima.
is unbelieveble how good Tsukishima's character development is. I use to hate him so much and now he is one of my favs
One of the best*
And don't forget nishinoya senpai
@@noe4354 that's what along with means
Tsukki getting excited about volleybal was the best part in season 3
The seiyuu(namikawa) did an amazing job in bringing oikawa's character to life🤗
"The stronger Six is strong"
i love oikawa as a character, and i love when furudate peels back the layers of his character and reveals his insecurities and reveals how iwaizumi helped him realize what he needed to know.
Being a person who goes on Instagram and marvel on the amazing art works there, I always compare my amateur level to experienced people. Heck even some of them are my age or younger and although I understand that I need to draw more and work on my weaknesses, I feel like it would never be enough. But it's videos like that that not only encourage me but ensure me that it things will be ok and not to worry too much about my present skills. For that, I thank you
I’m delighted that I could help just a little bit. You’re welcome, and thanks so much for sharing this!
Try hard. You will become a better artist as long as you try.
Love the contrast of this video and the one of Aomine Daiki.
Funnily enough, I wrote this one and the Aomine one at the same time!
@@Aleczandxr If you are still craving more sports anime to watch I highly recommend Chihayafuru it is just getting season 3 next season so now would be a perfect time to get on it. It has very similar themes with haikyuu!
@@BuffaloBillBtch oh shit it's getting a third season!? I loved that show
What's interesting is that Kuroko's Basketball has its own version of Oikawa, namely Himuro.
(don't know if it's brought up in this video, haven't finished watching it as I'm typing this)
Karasuno's second match with Seijou remains the greatest match in Haikyuu!! in my eyes. Nothing beats that final point, and Oikawa is a fully fleshed out character who happens to be an antagonist.
Ushijima is not without personality, but he's more of a symbol than a person in the story. Satori and Washijo were the people who gave Shiratorizawa life in their match with Karasuno. But there's just something so compelling about Oikawa's struggle and overall character.
Lets be honest. Oikawa is most of us. He represents those who aim for a field in life only to find that there are certain people who are simply better. But what he teaches us is that anyone who keeps trying can make their talent blossom at one point in life. That everyones path to evolution is different. The road to success is extremely difficult and even if one has to swim against the tide, competing against talented people doesnt mean one has to resign to the curse and give up.
As far as i recall, he was one of the few who could break into a foreign league, yes, even before the talented Kageyama. The character of Oikawa will continue to inspire me in my journey, remembering all those geniuses I have met and envied so far. And my worthless pride will push me to fight against the 'unfairness'
Excellent use of the OST.
never seen the anime but the points you made coinciding with the music makes me really wanna watch now.
Brilliant, hope you enjoy it if you do check it out!
What is the ost?
Amazing video once again man. I wasn't that big of a fan of Oikawa but by the end of season 2 he skyrocketed into my top 3. "Talent is something you make bloom, instinct is something you polish." - is easily my favourite quote from the entire series.
Thank you! I think he's easily one of the best characters so making a video on him was a no-brainer.
Just like the one who "points" to the sky.
If you told me that i'd feel pity for Oikawa at the beginning of the series when he was being obnoxious then I wouldn't have believed you but here we are lol. The poor guy is so good but he just doesn't have that special talent.
Calcelmo Anayru sale. I couldn’t stand they guy now I’m over here praising him and crying when he cries
For me, working very hard for a thing that you loved the most and doing good at it that you can even par with the talented ones is a talent.
I never once rooted against him. I knew that attitude as soon as I saw it.
This is one of the few channels where I lose track of time while watching the videos, I hope you'll keep up the great work man!!
Thanks very much! That's great to hear :)
Oikawa is an amazing antagonist, he falls under the category of those who have a somewhat funny-trashy personality but are great characters with distinguished traits in reality.
watching this after the manga has finished makes knowing what oikawa has for himself in the future that much better. his 'worthless pride' got him to where he wanted, and he did it. oikawa is such an incredible, multifaceted character with so much to talk about. really enjoyed this video. thank you :)
Wow, this was amazing. There are alot of motivational videos here on youtube, that use phrases like "Hard work beats talent, if talent does't work hard". This has always rubbed me the wrong way, as it leads to false expectations. The more successful you get (sports, science, etc.) the higher the chance, that you encounter people, who work as hard as you and have talent. That doesn't mean, you can't enjoy what you are doing, just don't epect to reach the top, just because you work hard.
Wow, you made me love Oikawa even more.
He is one of the best characters in my opinion.
You may or may not like him, but you can't deny that he is a well written character who improved on his own. It's not about talent, it's about his hard work. He worked so damn hard to improve his skills, and I really hope he'll be able to pursue his dreams in the future... and maybe one day he'll become strong enough to be a member of the National Team.
This video is absolutely phenomenal
Most people have a passion for something but still know that they are not geniuses and other people will be better
And I think what makes Oikawa so great is that he knows that but still goes on and does everything he can
For many people that should be relatable and this determination is a great characteristic most people don’t have
Even for people who are naturally good at what they love it’s relatable (and I speak of myself here so I know that)
It’s one of the reasons why he’s one of my favourite Haikyuu characters
I made one of my friends watch this anime series and they told me how I sound so much like Oikawa. I guess I never noticed it before but I say "I really hate geniuses," So many times and always finishes it off with "But I I admire them at the same time." Because of this anime I started playing volleyball, I already knew it wouldn't be easy in the start but one amazing hit where even the best player couldn't touch it, one receive that saved our game, one set that made the best hit of the game, that three amazing moments made me hooked on the volleyball. I know someone's bound to be better than me, that's why lately I've been saying "idrc if i lose or win," but after that lost I had last week, it made me motivated again, it always drives me when I see someone better than me. I naturally stopped having delusions of "oh, what if im secretly a genius--" "im gonna be a professional volleyball player" because there's this girl who just started playing volleyball in our team when she joined last year, yet she's already a stable receiver, a good server and a spiker. Shit, it made me scared. That creeping talent behind you. It's terrifying. I thought I adjusted to volleyball really quick, but she did faster than me. I recently learned she plays many sports, I told myself I didn't want to lose to someone who's not giving volleyball a full attention like i did, but she was better than me. But bro, we're in the same team, as much as I want to improve, I'm also thankful that she's on my team and I guess since we both play setters, I'll try my best to improve with her. Talent is something you make bloom!
This inspires me to take that extra step to join my volleyball team. I've been contemplating about it, as I had my doubts in my abilities. But whether I'm sitting on the bench or standing on the court, I want to give it my all. I also can't help but notice your Taehyung icon--
cheesecake do it! Join! It’s normal to be bad at first! But the satisfaction of improving is the best! I guarantee it!
I always come back to this video every now and again, so good.
Everything Aleczandxr describes Oikawa is the reason I like him, he has a sense of reality, rational and most of all strong mind while being confident and proud at the same time
After the manga ended and knowing that Oikawa ends up alright exactly where he needs to be... it's such a good feeling.
This definitely got a lot of feelings out of me....Oikawa is such a brutally human and complex character and it's really why he's my favorite, you put it down into words so so well
Thanks!
I wrote a poem inspired by your video. I hope you see it:
The curse of the ordinary,
Is a tyrant who wields the shackles of destiny,
Which binds our potential to our fate,
Although a man without limits is no man at all,
When gazing upon our peers,
What first resembles a curse,
Becomes the blessing called empathy,
You don’t understand how much I appreciate your video essay analysis on his character. Oikawa is definitely one of the best written characters in HQ and doesn’t deserve the negative press he gets from fans who don’t understand his character. I’ve met many HQ fans who tell me they “hate him because he bullies Kageyama too much” or “he’s a trashy person.” I could write so many essays about how those claims are not the case at all.
I resonate with Oikawa and so do many HQ fans (whether they’ve realized it or not). I initially felt uncomfortable with him because how he acted spitefully and cunning when faced with his insecurities and main competitor, or watching how hard he had to work to hold a candle to those with innate talent really resonated with me. It made me, and I’m sure many other fans, feel like they were looking at some aspect of themselves.
He deserves so much more respect and support as a character, and so much more than a surface-level opinion that seems him unworthy of these.
Thank you for your analysis, really.
It’s my pleasure, thank you for watching and sharing!
this just hits too close to home... i guess the fact that i related to oikawa so much i was blindsided to this perspective. i didn’t like him, his personality, but the way he always put his team first was how i was in high school. but as the years continued my abilities flatlined and newer, younger athletes came and surpassed me in every way. desperate to prove myself once again and maintain my sanity in the sport i loved, i practiced until i dropped day after day. to no avail. no matter how much i wanted it, there was always someone better and there was nothing i could do about it. when i tore my tendon in my knee, i fell behind, and the gifted took my place easily. i could never catch up. never jump as high, run as fast anymore. dribble and pivot. nothing.
the curse of the ordinary is as real as it gets. and here, years later after my golden days when i thought i was special, i can finally admit that i was among the ordinary.
He is definitely realistic character at the point. When I get to know his backstory I totally understand and I think he's easy to understand too but when I realised that many people hate him I was like why??? He's definitely not a perfect person or innocent but personally I think we all are just the same too.
Oikawa Toru in a way represents Derrick Rose's story from the NBA, both are super talented prodigies who never got to reach their ultimate dream of becoming the greatest due to circumstances that they cannot control, but in the end they did the best that they can and never gave up to redeem and atleast be the figure of what they were supposed to be, The Greatest of All Time
There is nothing better than a Aleczandxr video when youre done with cleaning your room ^^
Sadly he cannot see the admiration of those gifted players on him. The bitterness and envy blinded him so much..but it drives him to be great.. such a complex and great character..
I watch this video once or twice every year (since 2019) depending upon the how ordinary I feel. People around me making monstrous progress in life or in career. People who started behind me casually surpassing me even with their lack of extreme effort. It's very frustrating. As much as I am happy for them.The sheer limit to what I can do and how much I can do is very frustrating. This video and the iconic quote from the coach is what makes me want to try one last time. Today.... would be my 4th one last time, I will try to make my talent bloom. If I fail again. I will come here again and try one last time again.
I think oikawa and the whole show underestimate him. Noone who has seen oikawa playing said he was ordinary, they said he was a monster. Oikawa just needs some good teammates, at seijo only iwa and mad dog were decent.
And this is what I think people don’t get. Oikawa while not as technically gifted as kageyama is his own kind of genius one that we don’t really pay attention too. He has more of an emotional genius where he can adapt and bring the best out of every spiker. And I think that’s more important than any technical skill because volleyball is a team sport and as shown by kageyama it doesn’t matter how perfectly you set the ball if your spiker can’t hit it 🤷🏿♀️
seeing him play against them in the olympics makes me so proud😭😭
People really don't realize how much talent affects sports, no matter how hard you work, at some point someone with born talent will get to you if they work as hard as you....This was a wonderful video.
Whenever I tell people that Oikawa is my favorite character they think I am a fanboy because he is good-looking. First of all I'm not gay. The reason he is my favorite is because of what this video explains. I to sometimes think I'm nothing but average (I play sports). The only thing I have is my pride and hard work ethic. Oikawa is my favorite because I relate to him more than anyone else in the show.
Reading the final chapter of the manga, I was happy to see him overcoming his curse. I always connected to him personally, as I experienced the same. Despising myself of not being talented to working hard and polishing my skills to achieve what I wanted. It's the journey that matters in the end 😊
The only talent Oikawa didnt possess which is the most important is " Self confidence " that he was the best. Losing a lot of matches does that to you. Oikawa was just as good as Kageyama but that "talent" word always gave him an excuse instead of developing his own weapons to fight.
He is my favourite setter but would have been happy had he always believed in himself just as Iwa chan did their whole lives.
Oikawa's story is so inspiring and heart hitting because it involves the harsh reality that you probably won't be great at everything you desire to be. His story would inspire people to work hard to reach the limit of your abilities and not giving up mid-way or not even begin because of despair. Oikawa's efforts did not altogether go in vain. He retains his respect as a SETTER among people who've seen him play and played with him. He's a worthy rival to compete with
The ending of the manga is Oikawas revenge and i love it!!
I can’t stop watching this video because I relate to Oikawa so much. I’m a Varsity striker for my boys high school soccer team. We win games but we also lose a lot to. I practice and train so much but unfortunately since I’m not as athletic as my opponents I’ll just never surpass them. However that doesn’t stop me and I still try to encourage my team mates to go on to victory. But unfortunately I’m just like Oikawa. I’m just ordinary.
Well so here's something that I hope motivates you. Haikyuu isn't by far over yet in the anime and neither is Oikawa. I don't want to spoil anything from you but Oikawa ends up watching Karasuno's match against Inarizaki and somehow something in him clicks when he watches Tanaka's progress. Fast forward a few years and he choses a completely different path to evolve his voleyball compared to everyone else. So Oikawa Toru does not settle for mediocrity. You could say his growth is probably the best in the entire series. Wait for it to end.. Oikawa is the man who chose the path no one else walked.
Newest chapter of Haikyuu dropped and SPOILERS BELOW
Kageyama has been pretty much breathing volleyball since he’s a baby, and that chapter is incredible in providing us insight to Kageyama. I think it’s just time/experience and circumstances that allowed Kageyama to surpass Oikawa.
An additional point is that Oikawa and Iwazumi were the only people who matched Kageyama’s passion, and after losing his grandpa, two most enthusiastic teammates and essentially his entire team in middle school, Kageyama’s isolation hits especially hard.
“I’m here!” from Hinata is what truly brought Kageyama’s passion back. God Haikyuu is so good it’s a something we need but don’t deserve.
This is why, I don’t like people saying about how they hate Oikawa. He just wants to improve and be a volleyball star someday🥺 He doesn’t give up no matter what. He went three years of high school without going to the nationals. And yet he didnt give up...
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And yet he did. Him playing with Argentina makes me wanna cry🥺✨
seeing this video makes me wanna cry so much :((
i'm a volleyball player too and i'm also the captain of the team. after watching haikyuu, i can say that oikawa is truly my favorite character; he is someone i can relate to, and someone i want to be as well. i have been playing volleyball for 8 years now and i'm 16 years old, so that's basically half of my life as of the moment. my school is also part of the powerhouses in my area, but not in the whole country. i could say that i'm also not extraordinary or talented when it comes to volleyball, and all my skills are just because of my hard work. i am the shortest middle blocker in my team but i can't say i'm like hinata who can jump high and run fast because i'm poor in that field as well, but then again, i'm the captain and one of the main players. similar to oikawa, whenever i see other middle blockers who are taller and more talented, regardless of how old they are and where they came from, i can't help but feel inferior to them. this is one of the things that my coach has always pointed out to me; that i always doubt myself and my capabilities, that i always bring myself down, and that i always lower my confidence just because someone in front of me is more "talented". but after watching oikawa in haikyuu, i'm more than ready to work harder and show that my strengths too have no limits and that i can do the things someone with talent can do as well. oikawa has inspired me so much to train harder to improve my skills and attitude. he showed me that even if he wasn't a prodigy like kageyama, he was still able to become one of the best setters or players in the series. and there is no doubt he is a great captain as well. every captain in haikyuu is amazing but oikawa left the biggest impact on me. he had great leadership skills and he knew how to make his teammates shine inside the court. even if i'm not a setter, as a captain, i also want to bring out the best in my teammates just like oikawa. i'm sorry if i said too much :(( but i just wanna express how he inspired me so much to keep going. 😋✌🏻
just like how he brings the best out of anyone, he brings the best out of the show when he appears
It's really cool how Oikawa sees himself as ordinary because he doesn't have Kageyama's control, yet Kageyama sees himself as inferior to him because he doesn't have Oikawa's people skills
the manga is already over, and this video has aged like the wine
One thing is for sure before and after watching this:
Oikawa is one of my favorite character Not of his looks nor goofiness, but there's something about him that I cannot pinpoint exactly on how much I love him. Adding the fact that I can relate to his character in so many ways.