Love how you handled ATC. They appreciated your kindness and quick responses to your requests. I understand go around. If it doesn't feel right never hesitate your safety.
Great video. I agree with some of the other comments. Having the closed captions there are very helpful. I'm in ground school now and find your video a big help in relieving some of my ATC communications anxiety. I thought you did a great job!
Im currently a flight instructor, but despite that even you as a student pilot are teaching me things! I did all my training in the middle of no where north dakota so i have basically no experience in busy airspaces. So i gotta say thanks for these videos! Its really appreciated!
Hi Trevor, that's nice of you to say. This is all I know, but I imagine it would be different if you learned somewhere else. Good luck with your instructing and have fun! It's nice when you love what you do!
They say in every relationship, communication is key..... that was a great example of same. To hear you speak with confidence, the ATC personnel thought you were seasoned without question Great video guy.
Joe thank you for these videos. i got my wings 1985, active for about 4 years, then just getting back into it. the flying is easy, the radio is .... challenging. watching you on your solo from john wayne (no small airport) to ramona (my back yard, hard to find, easy to miss) and back, over french valley. well, you did great and were so calm. and impressed you went around. and humble. anyway, great video, and great job. i will check out your other posts. Fair skies!
Joshua - very cool that you're getting back in the air. Ramona was definitely hard for me to find since that first solo was also my first time into Ramona. I haven't flown since Covid became a thing, so I'm gonna be a little rusty when I restart. Have fun! Joe
Ha, love the comment "...not the death grip..." at 12:28. I've done that a few times. One of my instructors used to say: "hold it like a pencil not a bat". I keep coming back to these videos for the superb radio communications.
Thanks for posting both legs with audio translation. It helps in trying to understand the mystique behind radio communication. I paused, played and replayed multiple times. I learned a great but. You truly handled yourself like a pro and are an inspiration. Keep up the great work and keep the videos coming. Than you!!!
Hey great video! I got my private pilot license in Texas middle of nowhere, great way to learn stick and rudder. Now I'm in class Charlie in Little Rock, almost done with IFR training. Man, you've had a lot thrown at you learning how to fly in busy airspace! I appreciate your videos and your attitude. This is not easy! Great job dude! Your tiny "mistakes" were not dangerous and were all learning opportunities, happens to all of us on EVERY flight! I learned a lot today from you!!!
Nothing like flying into the grinder that is SoCal. Spend more time twisting knobs than moving flight controls! Flew to LA then to Palomar several years ago. Not a big fan of busy airspace. Wish I had those panel niceties in my '07 Sportstar! The Trutrak a/p is a blessing, but miss having a VOR. Nice job! Fly safely.
You did a terrific job...I can't wait until I fly my dual X-Country next week and then my solo X-Country the following week. Your video was extremely helpful. I must say, your radio work is quite good. You're very confident on the radio. Fantastic job!!!
Thanks Joe for posting. Very concise and informative, especially the text of the comms. Your vids help civilians "see" the fundamentals and how the standards apply. Very professional. Good luck in your flying.
Great video. I love the fact that you posted this video without much editing like some people do to erase imperfections. Very natural and student pilots like myself can learn a lot from your errors. It's great to see mistakes. I love it. Excellent training video.
Thanks. I figured that we all make mistakes, perhaps me more than others, so I figured I may as well show the good with the bad. I'm still trying to get better.
I think everyone's first X-Country goes like that. It's like everyone you talk to is giving you the business. I remember when Ramona had no tower. Those guys must be bored to tears up there. Nice job on your part.
Ehat a great job. I'm an aspiring pilot. No license yet but working on it. I have been watching and studying videos for about a year now. You have a great plane too.
Greetings, fellow aviator...Great flying. May I suggest you push/pull the throttle smoothly for more agressive adjustments except when you're making fine adjustments. You'll be safer than if you get into the habit of twisting throttle to control it. You want your first instinct to be to push when you need go-around power. Thanks for both the videos, very entertaining and informative to us who rarely fly congested airspace. You're a lot more relaxed than I remember being--great job!
Thanks. Makes good sense. I just re-watched the go around and do see I hesitated a bit after calling my own "nope." On a stage check, the senior examiner reprimanded me a bit for being too aggressive with the throttle on my takeoff roll, so after that, I eased into all of my throttle pushes with an initial twist or two. Perhaps my reptile brain was still working with that. Thanks again.
Great videos, both parts. What to say about those FSS guys. Cant live with them, cant live without them! I learned a lot about SOCAL communications from your videos. Here at Las Vegas, Class Bravo is my middle name, still... Lot more to learn. Keep the blue side up!
Joe. Thank you for sharing these videos sir. I will be starting my lessons in 4 days. I can't wait until the day I can do what you just did. Subscribed and will be looking for more. Thank you
I really appreciated BOTH of these videos (Leg 1 & Leg 2). Thank you so much for posting them! Especially thanks for keeping in the mistakes for us all to see, very brave . . . and encouraging for other student pilots like me. I've personally found the GoPro to be an excellent training aid as I review each lesson afterwards. I also agree with others and am a bit jealous of your comm-competence. ;)
Robert Henry Good luck in your training Robert. Where abouts do you fly? Around here, the communications are just a required part of life so you naturally pick them up as you learn.
I also would like to congratulate you on a great job loved the two video's thanks for the effort involved in doing the video and producing the final result.
Don't sweat the mistakes too much. That's why we train. If everyone was perfect in their first few hours, there'd be no need for instructors. Thanks for sharing the good and bad. e can all learn from you.
Great video, and stellar decision-making on the go-around! When playing Microsoft Flight Simulator, I have a lot of trouble with that part. I wouldn't hesitate there though!
Ha. I forgot about that. When I got nervous, I would clutch the stick with my entire hand which caused me to unconsciously "pull" the control stick around. My instructor would always say I should drop the "death grip" and lightly hold the controls stick between my thumb and forefinger like I was holding a soft-boiled egg or something like that.
Thanks Hans. Still flying, but less so because work is busier than usual. I got out today for some quick pattern work, so hopefully I can find some more time again soon!
Okey, I have more of weather issues here in sweden keep me grounded most of time for the last year, worst recorded over 152 years in my area (Lund), some people talk about climate change - im agee :) , Is it mandatory controled flying with atc flight plan every time you fly from your club right in the LA area? I notis that the atc radio chat is very short, quick, hard to understand and constant shifting of radio.freq, qnh, different from what im used to :). I "had" a plan to rent a c172 some times on a California visit. Im think I need a radio/navigator for that. Regards
Hi Hans - Talking to ATC is completely optional when you're flying outside the Class B, C, or D airspace of the towered airports. However, I like to stay with ATC that covers the area in between, the "approach" controllers, because they provide traffic advisories (extra set of eyes) and it's good radio practice for me for when I someday get an instrument rating. I hope you having some nice flying weather soon in your part of the world!
Joe, great second leg mate, already getting better! Congrats! One thing i would suggest is to talk out loud as if you had someone next to you. Things you can say out loud is when lining up to the runway say "i see 27 on the ground, agrees with the hsi", also say out loud, airspeed is alive, engine in the green, rotate. Stuff like that. It really helps. Check aviation101 for tips and tricks. Otherwise you should be proud of yourself because you are super focused and super awesome handling ATC Blue skies my friend
Apologies if this is a daft question, but are you a PPL student pilot? If so, your RT work is excellent. You sound like a professional pilot. I'm sure I could never achieve that level of assurance and competence in dealing with and responding to ATC instructions. Is creating and filing a flight plan all part of the PPL course? Excellent videos and for what it's worth, I certainly don't think they're too long.
Thanks for the compliment, but I'm just a student pilot. I'm nearly done now. I will be doing my check ride in a couple of weeks. I'm sure it cost me time and money in taxiing and extended time on the ground and in the pattern, but by training out of a busy airport, I had to get somewhat comfortable with the radio. The trick is to practice while driving around, i.e chair fly while driving. You'll look like an idiot, but it works. On the flight plan, my school requires us to file one for each leg of our solo XCs. Happy flying!
Skies looked clear Wish it was that way on my trip to EGLK recently (shoreham's code I think in the UK) What was the flight time? John Wayne to ramona and back?
Hi Joe....love you videos mate :) Quick question....at 4.00 after take off , on your right it seems that Robinson Helicopter is converging on you , was you aware of it ? Tony
Hi Tony, I remember being aware of the helicopter as I departed, but I wasn't concerned about him based on what I was told to do and what I was seeing. Tower was working with the helicopter too. At around 3:00, I requested a "right crosswind departure," but around 3:15, tower told me to fly runway heading. At first, I didn't know why tower was restricting me to the runway heading during my initial climb out, when I wanted depart to the right, but when I saw the helicopter, it made more sense. They were actively keeping us apart. Regards, Joe
Joe....do you find yourself having any issues landing your plane with low approach angles? The reason I ask is because I did. Took many attempts to realize I needed a much steeper angle to smooth landings. Any feedback would be appreciated. Thx.
+Manuel Saldivar (Manny) Hi Manny, I agree because a low angle usually correlates with an approach that is faster than desired. That said, I suspect that it's important not to dive for the runway at the end of an otherwise good approach. This weekend I flew to a little airport called Agua Dulce (L70) and the winds were howling straight down the runway at about 25 kts. I incorrectly tried to keep my "normal" descent gradient on the first landing attempt and, as a result, was going way too fast. Second time around I stayed high, came down steeply and at the correct speed, and all was good with the world.
I practiced both sides of the expected conversation while i drove around so that I more readily recognized what ATC was saying in the first place (it's a pretty finite list), and most of my responses became second nature. Have fun!
Hi Yoel. Thank you! Yup, it's a GoPro. You may have to click "see more" to see it, but there's a link to the audio adapter in the description of the LONG VERSION of "Leg 1."
Hi Joey - 80? I'm not sure where that number comes from. Under FAR 61.1(4)(i), cross-country time is logged during a flight from one airport to another without regard to the distance between them, but under FAR 61.1(4)(ii), you can only meet your experience requirement for solo cross-country flights (5 hours) with cross-country flights > 50 nm. This flight counted for solo cross-country experience because the straight-line distance between KSNA and KRNM is 70 nm. Under FAR 61.109(2)(iii), the required experience also includes a long solo cross-country flight that is > 150 nm total distance with 3 full-stop landings and with at least one segment being > 50 nm. Thus, the flights from John Wayne to Ramona and back were logged as cross-country flights, but not as the long flight.
Vikram Bharati Hi Vikram, In general, the legal answer is technically no. With certain exceptions, you do not need more training to fly another single-engine plane. In my opinion, however, the practical answer for most rational pilots is that you would want and need some degree of preparation and you wouldn’t normally just fly a new plane “right off the bat.” On the want, if not need, you would want to thoroughly understand a plane’s Pilot’s Operating Handbook (POH) before operating it. As to need, especially for me at least since I rent, rental outfits generally insist that you get “checked out” in each type of airplane before they’ll rent it to you. The checkout usually involves some preparation, and then an hour or so of flight with an instructor. That said, it’s a lot easier to learn to fly a new plane than to learn to fly in the first place. Insurance companies may also insist on training in certain aircraft before you can insure it. As to the exceptions, there are some specific types of single-engine planes that definitely require more training. In particular, federal aviation regulation FAR 61.31 says that you need additional “type ratings” to fly “large aircraft” (>12,500 lbs) or “turbojet-powered aircraft,” and you also need further ground and flight training to get an instructor’s endorsement to fly a “complex” airplane (retractable gear or controllable pitch prop), a “high performance airplane” (engine > 200HP), or a “pressurized aircraft.” Hope that helps!
+Franchesco Kilayko Hi Franchesco, no, you don't. The identifier code is printed on the navigation charts as letters (SOS) and also as dots and dashes (. . . - - - . . . ), so you know what to listen for without having to know Morse code. Joe
Sounds like you have to pay attention ALOT!!! I know that sounds stupid to say, but I'm not a pilot :) Subscribed to the channel, thanks for taking the time to make the vids!
+brettdeweese Hi Brett, it's probably true to some degree. Having to pay attention to flying the plane, to where I am, and to the radio, is one of the reasons I enjoy flying. I need to focus so much on "just flying" that I get to forget about everything else. Maybe it becomes more routine, but I'm a long way from there and hope I never get there. Note that you can choose to fly between airports without getting radar advisory services, aka "flight following," and thus without having to talk to ATC so much. That makes for a different experience because you don't have to actively listen for your tail number. In the busy LA airspace, though, I think that most pilots choose to participate.
7:04 First, let me say great job! Second, I am a bit "hearing impared," but my observation is that in the early video you could annunciate the LIMA in your call sign better. At 7:04 I hear the LIMA clearly, but many times earlier "SEVEN-SIERRA-lim" is what I was hearing. I know you want to be the best you can be, and that is the only suggestion I can make. Good luck in your flying! 1:48 CLIPPED Speach, SEVEN, SIERRA, lim
Hi. I watched your "burping" video many months ago as a student pilot and really appreciated it. I also watched your videos entitled "Small Video Camera for Making Airplane Videos" and "Camera Attached for Making Videos from Small Aircraft e2", and as a direct result, lightened my pocketbook with quite a few RAM mount products. You, in fact, were directly responsible for this contraption that I built to hang the camera from the bubble canopy, but keep it centered below the rib: www.teamandras.com/temp/GoPro_Mount_for_SportStar_Canopy.jpg
+ExtremeRecluse I'm a renter for now (2 kids in college), but I think that's pretty accurate. As LSA's age, I'm guessing that reasonably priced planes will begin to show up in the used market.
Nice job headin' back home. Just a couple of comments, if I may. :-) You were asked to repeat your call sign a couple of times - your pronunciation of SL trails off and is hard "to read." Your first base to final had you WAY far from the runway - if that 912 quit, you wouldn't have made it to the runway. (gliding distance is the way to go! I know it puts you up close and personal to the runway). Finally, (smile), I know that I'm speaking WAY BACK, but, on my first cross country was not allowed to use the VOR! It all had to be done by Deduced Reckoning (DEAD Reconing). I remember that well (33 years ago) because at one point I was 5 miles to the left of my course line and didn't know where I was! Was scary. However, later on, the VOR's came into play and all was well in Gotham City! Nice job, and as other commenters have said, great job on communicating and aviating. Thanks, N-6395T
Thanks Michael. I'm probably not the clearest speaker to begin with, so I definitely should try to more clearly enunciate the final two letters when forced to say niner-zero-seven-sierra-lima. I love the plane, but hate it’s N-number. Maybe it’s six of one, half a dozen of another, but on the fist base to final, I think I was too low rather than too far away. At 10:50, which is when I’m abeam the numbers and should begin my descent from TPA, you can hear me say, “little low.” TPA is 850, but if you look closely at the altimeter at 10:50, you can see I had dropped through TPA and was actually at 750. To me, the lesson is that if you start too low, you may end up staying too low throughout the glide path and, rather than be high enough to glide in throughout the base and final legs, end up dragging it in. Ultimately, that’s why I went around - because I felt so flat. If I blew through TPA, I think I could correct it today by climbing back up, turning earlier, or flattening the glide path on base, etc., but it’s always easier if you’re simply starting the descent from the correct altitude - EVERY TIME. Doh! We didn’t seem to have any restrictions on incorporating a VOR into our cross countries, but I definitely see why that may make good sense. I had just gone through a bunch of “lost-diversion” training where I was required to use VORs, so I was eager to keep playing with them. Thanks for your comments!
I hope you didn't think I was being critical, as I was not (and I really don't think that). But, you just can't beat a chart and a plotter! Pilotage is really the way to go. And, as I remember your flight, you were looking out of the window and calling out "this landmark and that landmark." Yes, I also relied quite a bit on VOR, later on in the game. (worked on those systems in the USAF and that "old timey" VOR is a fairly complicated piece of work!) IMHO, you are head and shoulder above other pilots with the same amount of experience. I believe I read that you now have your PPL - congratulations. Big day, as I remember. You will be one of those guys who gets his Instrument Rating - Commercial, and move on in your "flying career" - be that for pay, or be that for FUN! Can't go anywhere (fairly far away) without an Instrument Rating. I don't have one. I passed the written - worked with an Instructor, but never had the confidence to take the practical. Did the same with the Commercial. Was a mistake "way back when," but I have to say that my "local flying," over the years in Virginia and Florida has been a lot of fun. Been "grounded" for two years now - miss the flying a lot. Good luck, you are doing a great job. Thanks, N-6395T
Michael Donavon Hi Michael - No worries at all. I took your comments as constructive criticism. Thanks for the compliment. I earned my PPL back in January and plan to get an instrument rating someday soon. I am flying every couple of weeks and am currently self-studying for the instrument knowledge test. I just fly for FUN, so I’m not in any big hurry. I hope to get started later this year or early next. Thanks for your own story on the practical. I hope to be really well prepared to keep my own butterflies away. My current plan is to train with an older gentleman that is associated with my flight school. He has a pretty serious demeanor, but he has decades of real world experience and, when it comes to instrument training, I think he’ll bring a lot more to the table than the younger guys. If the weather stays nice, I’m going to fly down to San Diego this weekend! I’d love to fly someplace like Virginia because it’s so different from California. Some day…
Michael Donavon Sorry so long on the reply. Your message was marked as "likely spam" fpr some reason and buried off to the side. Wow. Thanks for the video link. That was fun to watch. The other day I was doing some crosswind landing practice with the winds at John Wayne 260 @ 10, about 70 degrees off from runway 19L (now 20L). The wind in that video looks well beyond my comfort zone. On my eighth and final xwind landing, I put it down straight and centered with a great deal of aileron into the wind and full opposite rudder - landing the upwind main, then the downwind main, and then the nose wheel. I even remembered to keep aileron into the wind and ease it out on the flare. I got a nice compliment from the pilot of the plane holding short. Glad he only saw my final landing, and not any of the prior seven. lol
R/T (Radio Telephony) = Communications (Comm). The use of poor terminology and unnecessary language may confuse ATC who, in turn, may confuse you. Try to keep it simple ... it'll come with practice. But I really blame your instructor. Good luck for the future.
Well aren't you a peach. Let me clarify. I know what radio telephony is as I have a degree in electrical engineering and hold an extra class amateur radio license. However, in my opinion, neither "Radio Telephony" nor "R/T" are commonly used in aviation. In fact, using Bernie's own words, I regard the use here as "poor terminology" that isn't "simple" and "may confuse" others.
Hi Jeff, I trained mostly in a light sport aircraft (LSA), but did not pursue a sport pilot's license, but rather earned a standard private pilot certificate.
Love how you handled ATC. They appreciated your kindness and quick responses to your requests. I understand go around. If it doesn't feel right never hesitate your safety.
Everyone is trying to get better: a good pilot never stops learning. Again, excellent job.
Great video. I agree with some of the other comments. Having the closed captions there are very helpful. I'm in ground school now and find your video a big help in relieving some of my ATC communications anxiety. I thought you did a great job!
Thanks. I'm glad it's helpful. Good luck with your training!
Good job buddy.
Well, look who it is! And yes, I know that aviation is a small world!
Im currently a flight instructor, but despite that even you as a student pilot are teaching me things! I did all my training in the middle of no where north dakota so i have basically no experience in busy airspaces. So i gotta say thanks for these videos! Its really appreciated!
Hi Trevor, that's nice of you to say. This is all I know, but I imagine it would be different if you learned somewhere else. Good luck with your instructing and have fun! It's nice when you love what you do!
They say in every relationship, communication is key..... that was a great example of same. To hear you speak with confidence, the ATC personnel thought you were seasoned without question Great video guy.
I love it. Tracking a vor! Most rely on GPS these days and forgot how to track a vor
Thank you so much. I am one of many who have that first solo ahead of them and this video was like being along for the ride....excellent
Joe
thank you for these videos. i got my wings 1985, active for about 4 years, then just getting back into it. the flying is easy, the radio is .... challenging. watching you on your solo from john wayne (no small airport) to ramona (my back yard, hard to find, easy to miss) and back, over french valley. well, you did great and were so calm. and impressed you went around. and humble. anyway, great video, and great job. i will check out your other posts. Fair skies!
Joshua - very cool that you're getting back in the air. Ramona was definitely hard for me to find since that first solo was also my first time into Ramona. I haven't flown since Covid became a thing, so I'm gonna be a little rusty when I restart. Have fun! Joe
Ha, love the comment "...not the death grip..." at 12:28. I've done that a few times. One of my instructors used to say: "hold it like a pencil not a bat". I keep coming back to these videos for the superb radio communications.
I still have the death grip on occasion. I am mentally weak.
Thanks for posting both legs with audio translation. It helps in trying to understand the mystique behind radio communication. I paused, played and replayed multiple times. I learned a great but. You truly handled yourself like a pro and are an inspiration. Keep up the great work and keep the videos coming. Than you!!!
Great! I'm glad it was helpful. I'll have another video up soon, one of my long cross country. Have fun with your training.
Hey great video! I got my private pilot license in Texas middle of nowhere, great way to learn stick and rudder. Now I'm in class Charlie in Little Rock, almost done with IFR training. Man, you've had a lot thrown at you learning how to fly in busy airspace! I appreciate your videos and your attitude. This is not easy! Great job dude! Your tiny "mistakes" were not dangerous and were all learning opportunities, happens to all of us on EVERY flight! I learned a lot today from you!!!
I am 17 and am going to start the journey to a pilots license this August. I am really enjoying your videos I can't wait to start.
Enjoy! You'll probably pick it up super fast at your young age.
Did u ever get ur pilot L. Bro
Nothing like flying into the grinder that is SoCal. Spend more time twisting knobs than moving flight controls! Flew to LA then to Palomar several years ago. Not a big fan of busy airspace. Wish I had those panel niceties in my '07 Sportstar! The Trutrak a/p is a blessing, but miss having a VOR. Nice job! Fly safely.
Maybe because it seems normal, but I kind of like it. Wish I owned a Sportstar though. Hope you're still enjoying it!
You did a terrific job...I can't wait until I fly my dual X-Country next week and then my solo X-Country the following week. Your video was extremely helpful. I must say, your radio work is quite good. You're very confident on the radio. Fantastic job!!!
Thanks Joe for posting. Very concise and informative, especially the text of the comms. Your vids help civilians "see" the fundamentals and how the standards apply. Very professional. Good luck in your flying.
Thank you!
Great job loved both parts of the video!! Blue skies.
Great video. I love the fact that you posted this video without much editing like some people do to erase imperfections. Very natural and student pilots like myself can learn a lot from your errors. It's great to see mistakes. I love it. Excellent training video.
Thanks. I figured that we all make mistakes, perhaps me more than others, so I figured I may as well show the good with the bad. I'm still trying to get better.
I think everyone's first X-Country goes like that. It's like everyone you talk to is giving you the business. I remember when Ramona had no tower. Those guys must be bored to tears up there. Nice job on your part.
Ehat a great job. I'm an aspiring pilot. No license yet but working on it. I have been watching and studying videos for about a year now. You have a great plane too.
Great video, nice view and great to see and hear the whole flight without edits. Subbed!
Great Job. It was a fun ride along.
Greetings, fellow aviator...Great flying. May I suggest you push/pull the throttle smoothly for more agressive adjustments except when you're making fine adjustments. You'll be safer than if you get into the habit of twisting throttle to control it. You want your first instinct to be to push when you need go-around power. Thanks for both the videos, very entertaining and informative to us who rarely fly congested airspace. You're a lot more relaxed than I remember being--great job!
Thanks. Makes good sense. I just re-watched the go around and do see I hesitated a bit after calling my own "nope." On a stage check, the senior examiner reprimanded me a bit for being too aggressive with the throttle on my takeoff roll, so after that, I eased into all of my throttle pushes with an initial twist or two. Perhaps my reptile brain was still working with that. Thanks again.
Great videos, both parts. What to say about those FSS guys. Cant live with them, cant live without them! I learned a lot about SOCAL communications from your videos. Here at Las Vegas, Class Bravo is my middle name, still... Lot more to learn. Keep the blue side up!
Joe. Thank you for sharing these videos sir. I will be starting my lessons in 4 days. I can't wait until the day I can do what you just did.
Subscribed and will be looking for more. Thank you
+abe salloum Thanks Abe. Enjoy your lessons! Hopefully I'll get some more videos up when I start my instrument rating. Joe
Great two videos you've provided. I am considering get into flying airplanes.
I really appreciated BOTH of these videos (Leg 1 & Leg 2). Thank you so much for posting them! Especially thanks for keeping in the mistakes for us all to see, very brave . . . and encouraging for other student pilots like me. I've personally found the GoPro to be an excellent training aid as I review each lesson afterwards.
I also agree with others and am a bit jealous of your comm-competence. ;)
I enjoy watching your both videos a lot!!
Awesome video! It really helps to hear the communication between you and the control tower thank you and great flying.
Too cool. Great flying my friend
Really good vids, Joe - I'm soloing soon - I'm not sure I shall be as cool-headed as you !
+Richard Ferguson Have fun on your solo, pilot!
Thanks for sharing this video. Getting ready to do my xcounty solo from Torrance to Palomar . . . .Watching yours makes me nervous :)
+anathemapth Pick an altitude. Get flight following. Have fun. I like flying to Palomar and it's fairly easy to find. Let me know how it goes!
Great video. I am nervous to try to get my GA license, but at least I don't have air traffic like this in my area. Wow.
Robert Henry Good luck in your training Robert. Where abouts do you fly? Around here, the communications are just a required part of life so you naturally pick them up as you learn.
I'm not pilot, but this was really entertaining to watch. Thank you.
Yup, I enjoyed this one also very much. Thanks again.
I wish I was blessed with that gorgeous weather on my solo!
It's not all gumdrops and rainbows, but you gotta love California!
That you do. I want to visit Cali one day. My parents are going at the end of February for four days before going to Mexico.
4:00 cool, just noticed the Long-EZ (or something similar) taxiing.
Nice view of the 405 freeway
Nice one Joe!! I just finished my second solo. Amazing experience! Nw working to my x-country :)
+Flying Dutchman The solos are a great experience, and the cross-countries take it up a notch in terms of feeling like a pilot. Have fun flying.
+Joe Andras great mate!!! So looking forward to it! Have a great weekend!!
You make it look so easy!
I also would like to congratulate you on a great job loved the two video's thanks for the effort involved in doing the video and producing the final result.
Thanks. The videos are a great way for me to relive the fun of the flying. Glad they're useful.
Yes indeed thanks again and I forgot to mention what a great little aircraft.
Don't sweat the mistakes too much. That's why we train. If everyone was perfect in their first few hours, there'd be no need for instructors. Thanks for sharing the good and bad. e can all learn from you.
Great video, and stellar decision-making on the go-around! When playing Microsoft Flight Simulator, I have a lot of trouble with that part. I wouldn't hesitate there though!
Very helpful to watch! Thank you for posting!
Very nice can't wait to my first solo video. :)
12:28 "Not the Death Grip" lol Great job!! Enjoyed watching!
Ha. I forgot about that. When I got nervous, I would clutch the stick with my entire hand which caused me to unconsciously "pull" the control stick around. My instructor would always say I should drop the "death grip" and lightly hold the controls stick between my thumb and forefinger like I was holding a soft-boiled egg or something like that.
Nice work, it must been sweaty to fly in that airspace , i hope you still flying. :)
Thanks Hans. Still flying, but less so because work is busier than usual. I got out today for some quick pattern work, so hopefully I can find some more time again soon!
Okey, I have more of weather issues here in sweden keep me grounded most of time for the last year, worst recorded over 152 years in my area (Lund), some people talk about climate change - im agee :) , Is it mandatory controled flying with atc flight plan every time you fly from your club right in the LA area? I notis that the atc radio chat is very short, quick, hard to understand and constant shifting of radio.freq, qnh, different from what im used to :). I "had" a plan to rent a c172 some times on a California visit. Im think I need a radio/navigator for that.
Regards
Hi Hans - Talking to ATC is completely optional when you're flying outside the Class B, C, or D airspace of the towered airports. However, I like to stay with ATC that covers the area in between, the "approach" controllers, because they provide traffic advisories (extra set of eyes) and it's good radio practice for me for when I someday get an instrument rating. I hope you having some nice flying weather soon in your part of the world!
Joe, great second leg mate, already getting better! Congrats! One thing i would suggest is to talk out loud as if you had someone next to you. Things you can say out loud is when lining up to the runway say "i see 27 on the ground, agrees with the hsi", also say out loud, airspeed is alive, engine in the green, rotate.
Stuff like that. It really helps. Check aviation101 for tips and tricks.
Otherwise you should be proud of yourself because you are super focused and super awesome handling ATC
Blue skies my friend
Very nice! I really like the voice/dialog boxes! I gotta try that...
About to start my training next month in Charlotte NC
Smooth comms, good job.
Ramona has a tower now, wow! Flew there in the 80's nothing but farm fields and no tower
Loved the video's mate. I'm just starting out so these video's are great for me. Happy flying :-)
Apologies if this is a daft question, but are you a PPL student pilot? If so, your RT work is excellent. You sound like a professional pilot. I'm sure I could never achieve that level of assurance and competence in dealing with and responding to ATC instructions. Is creating and filing a flight plan all part of the PPL course? Excellent videos and for what it's worth, I certainly don't think they're too long.
Thanks for the compliment, but I'm just a student pilot. I'm nearly done now. I will be doing my check ride in a couple of weeks. I'm sure it cost me time and money in taxiing and extended time on the ground and in the pattern, but by training out of a busy airport, I had to get somewhat comfortable with the radio. The trick is to practice while driving around, i.e chair fly while driving. You'll look like an idiot, but it works.
On the flight plan, my school requires us to file one for each leg of our solo XCs. Happy flying!
Awesome job!
Congratulations! welcome home!! :D
Thanks for your video's.
Great videos. thanks for posting
Reminds me of my solo. Way too low, but just added power and landed normally.
Maybe. Seemed like the right decision at the time. :)
Skies looked clear
Wish it was that way on my trip to EGLK recently (shoreham's code I think in the UK)
What was the flight time? John Wayne to ramona and back?
Hi Joe....love you videos mate :) Quick question....at 4.00 after take off , on your right it seems that Robinson Helicopter is converging on you , was you aware of it ? Tony
Hi Tony, I remember being aware of the helicopter as I departed, but I wasn't concerned about him based on what I was told to do and what I was seeing. Tower was working with the helicopter too.
At around 3:00, I requested a "right crosswind departure," but around 3:15, tower told me to fly runway heading. At first, I didn't know why tower was restricting me to the runway heading during my initial climb out, when I wanted depart to the right, but when I saw the helicopter, it made more sense. They were actively keeping us apart. Regards, Joe
Joe....do you find yourself having any issues landing your plane with low approach angles? The reason I ask is because I did. Took many attempts to realize I needed a much steeper angle to smooth landings. Any feedback would be appreciated. Thx.
+Manuel Saldivar (Manny) Hi Manny, I agree because a low angle usually correlates with an approach that is faster than desired. That said, I suspect that it's important not to dive for the runway at the end of an otherwise good approach.
This weekend I flew to a little airport called Agua Dulce (L70) and the winds were howling straight down the runway at about 25 kts. I incorrectly tried to keep my "normal" descent gradient on the first landing attempt and, as a result, was going way too fast. Second time around I stayed high, came down steeply and at the correct speed, and all was good with the world.
+Joe Andras . Thanks Joe.
more videos mate, hehe
Very professional comms. I only hope I can get past my irrational fear of communicating with ATC when I start my lessons back up.
I practiced both sides of the expected conversation while i drove around so that I more readily recognized what ATC was saying in the first place (it's a pretty finite list), and most of my responses became second nature. Have fun!
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You flow over my house near John Wayne-Can I get a ride sometimes lol
Did you use a GoPro?, How did u record the audio? Great video and good jobs!!
Hi Yoel. Thank you! Yup, it's a GoPro. You may have to click "see more" to see it, but there's a link to the audio adapter in the description of the LONG VERSION of "Leg 1."
I aspire to be a pilot Are achieve the dream of flying is difficult i need tips is it possible to any one else ?
yanis vampire Just work hard and sacrifice some current comforts for your future. Good luck!
Joe Andras thanks
How is that Cross Country you only went 80 miles to Ramona
Hi Joey - 80? I'm not sure where that number comes from.
Under FAR 61.1(4)(i), cross-country time is logged during a flight from one airport to another without regard to the distance between them, but under FAR 61.1(4)(ii), you can only meet your experience requirement for solo cross-country flights (5 hours) with cross-country flights > 50 nm. This flight counted for solo cross-country experience because the straight-line distance between KSNA and KRNM is 70 nm.
Under FAR 61.109(2)(iii), the required experience also includes a long solo cross-country flight that is > 150 nm total distance with 3 full-stop landings and with at least one segment being > 50 nm.
Thus, the flights from John Wayne to Ramona and back were logged as cross-country flights, but not as the long flight.
Very cool. Thanks. Glad you did a go around. ;)
Great job
after you get your license does it require more training to fly different single engined aircraft or can u just fly one right off the bat
Vikram Bharati Hi Vikram,
In general, the legal answer is technically no. With certain exceptions, you do not need more training to fly another single-engine plane. In my opinion, however, the practical answer for most rational pilots is that you would want and need some degree of preparation and you wouldn’t normally just fly a new plane “right off the bat.” On the want, if not need, you would want to thoroughly understand a plane’s Pilot’s Operating Handbook (POH) before operating it. As to need, especially for me at least since I rent, rental outfits generally insist that you get “checked out” in each type of airplane before they’ll rent it to you. The checkout usually involves some preparation, and then an hour or so of flight with an instructor. That said, it’s a lot easier to learn to fly a new plane than to learn to fly in the first place. Insurance companies may also insist on training in certain aircraft before you can insure it.
As to the exceptions, there are some specific types of single-engine planes that definitely require more training. In particular, federal aviation regulation FAR 61.31 says that you need additional “type ratings” to fly “large aircraft” (>12,500 lbs) or “turbojet-powered aircraft,” and you also need further ground and flight training to get an instructor’s endorsement to fly a “complex” airplane (retractable gear or controllable pitch prop), a “high performance airplane” (engine > 200HP), or a “pressurized aircraft.”
Hope that helps!
Joe Andras That sure did, thanks! I plan on getting my Pilots License after college anyway, but I'm already researching
How many hours did you have at the time, and how many hours do you have now?
+Jujulogey Hi, I had around 40 or so hours when I did the first solo XC, and have I about 150 or so now.
Do you have to memorize the morse code on av school?
+Franchesco Kilayko Hi Franchesco, no, you don't. The identifier code is printed on the navigation charts as letters (SOS) and also as dots and dashes (. . . - - - . . . ), so you know what to listen for without having to know Morse code. Joe
What's 7SL??
Nice engine she fired right up
Yup. The Rotax 912 engine almost always starts like a new car. The Lycoming engines in the Cessna 172, on the other hand, is a little more finicky.
Sounds like you have to pay attention ALOT!!! I know that sounds stupid to say, but I'm not a pilot :) Subscribed to the channel, thanks for taking the time to make the vids!
+brettdeweese Hi Brett, it's probably true to some degree. Having to pay attention to flying the plane, to where I am, and to the radio, is one of the reasons I enjoy flying. I need to focus so much on "just flying" that I get to forget about everything else. Maybe it becomes more routine, but I'm a long way from there and hope I never get there.
Note that you can choose to fly between airports without getting radar advisory services, aka "flight following," and thus without having to talk to ATC so much. That makes for a different experience because you don't have to actively listen for your tail number. In the busy LA airspace, though, I think that most pilots choose to participate.
+Joe Andras Thanks for the info!
First time in a low wing. Whew!
Low wings rule! Actually, I have mostly flown in a high wing since getting my license, so now that feels normal.
That go around though! :)
Probably was not necessary, but felt right at the time. :)
7:04 First, let me say great job! Second, I am a bit "hearing impared," but my observation is that in the early video you could annunciate the LIMA in your call sign better. At 7:04 I hear the LIMA clearly, but many times earlier "SEVEN-SIERRA-lim" is what I was hearing. I know you want to be the best you can be, and that is the only suggestion I can make. Good luck in your flying! 1:48 CLIPPED Speach, SEVEN, SIERRA, lim
Thanks for the constructive criticism. I've always had a tough time with this plane's call sign. It's a bit of a tongue-twister. I'll work on it...
With that Rotax 912 engine you have in there, you may like my "Rotax 912 Burping" video, in the "How To" section of my channel.
Hi. I watched your "burping" video many months ago as a student pilot and really appreciated it. I also watched your videos entitled "Small Video Camera for Making Airplane Videos" and "Camera Attached for Making Videos from Small Aircraft e2", and as a direct result, lightened my pocketbook with quite a few RAM mount products. You, in fact, were directly responsible for this contraption that I built to hang the camera from the bubble canopy, but keep it centered below the rib:
www.teamandras.com/temp/GoPro_Mount_for_SportStar_Canopy.jpg
Joe Andras Copy that! Keep 'em coming! Love that Rotax; mine has 1,100 hours now and running like a top!
ramona ground is a very young lady..
I wants to be a pilot
Light Sport aircraft. Probably cost a lot even though it sips fuel.
+ExtremeRecluse I'm a renter for now (2 kids in college), but I think that's pretty accurate. As LSA's age, I'm guessing that reasonably priced planes will begin to show up in the used market.
Nice job headin' back home. Just a couple of comments, if I may. :-) You were asked to repeat your call sign a couple of times - your pronunciation of SL trails off and is hard "to read." Your first base to final had you WAY far from the runway - if that 912 quit, you wouldn't have made it to the runway. (gliding distance is the way to go! I know it puts you up close and personal to the runway). Finally, (smile), I know that I'm speaking WAY BACK, but, on my first cross country was not allowed to use the VOR! It all had to be done by Deduced Reckoning (DEAD Reconing). I remember that well (33 years ago) because at one point I was 5 miles to the left of my course line and didn't know where I was! Was scary. However, later on, the VOR's came into play and all was well in Gotham City! Nice job, and as other commenters have said, great job on communicating and aviating. Thanks, N-6395T
Thanks Michael. I'm probably not the clearest speaker to begin with, so I definitely should try to more clearly enunciate the final two letters when forced to say niner-zero-seven-sierra-lima. I love the plane, but hate it’s N-number.
Maybe it’s six of one, half a dozen of another, but on the fist base to final, I think I was too low rather than too far away. At 10:50, which is when I’m abeam the numbers and should begin my descent from TPA, you can hear me say, “little low.” TPA is 850, but if you look closely at the altimeter at 10:50, you can see I had dropped through TPA and was actually at 750.
To me, the lesson is that if you start too low, you may end up staying too low throughout the glide path and, rather than be high enough to glide in throughout the base and final legs, end up dragging it in. Ultimately, that’s why I went around - because I felt so flat. If I blew through TPA, I think I could correct it today by climbing back up, turning earlier, or flattening the glide path on base, etc., but it’s always easier if you’re simply starting the descent from the correct altitude - EVERY TIME. Doh!
We didn’t seem to have any restrictions on incorporating a VOR into our cross countries, but I definitely see why that may make good sense. I had just gone through a bunch of “lost-diversion” training where I was required to use VORs, so I was eager to keep playing with them.
Thanks for your comments!
I hope you didn't think I was being critical, as I was not (and I really don't think that).
But, you just can't beat a chart and a plotter! Pilotage is really the way to go. And, as I remember your flight, you were looking out of the window and calling out "this landmark and that landmark." Yes, I also relied quite a bit on VOR, later on in the game. (worked on those systems in the USAF and that "old timey" VOR is a fairly complicated piece of work!)
IMHO, you are head and shoulder above other pilots with the same amount of experience. I believe I read that you now have your PPL - congratulations. Big day, as I remember. You will be one of those guys who gets his Instrument Rating - Commercial, and move on in your "flying career" - be that for pay, or be that for FUN! Can't go anywhere (fairly far away) without an Instrument Rating. I don't have one. I passed the written - worked with an Instructor, but never had the confidence to take the practical. Did the same with the Commercial. Was a mistake "way back when," but I have to say that my "local flying," over the years in Virginia and Florida has been a lot of fun. Been "grounded" for two years now - miss the flying a lot. Good luck, you are doing a great job. Thanks, N-6395T
Michael Donavon Hi Michael - No worries at all. I took your comments as constructive criticism.
Thanks for the compliment. I earned my PPL back in January and plan to get an instrument rating someday soon. I am flying every couple of weeks and am currently self-studying for the instrument knowledge test. I just fly for FUN, so I’m not in any big hurry. I hope to get started later this year or early next.
Thanks for your own story on the practical. I hope to be really well prepared to keep my own butterflies away. My current plan is to train with an older gentleman that is associated with my flight school. He has a pretty serious demeanor, but he has decades of real world experience and, when it comes to instrument training, I think he’ll bring a lot more to the table than the younger guys.
If the weather stays nice, I’m going to fly down to San Diego this weekend! I’d love to fly someplace like Virginia because it’s so different from California. Some day…
Michael Donavon Sorry so long on the reply. Your message was marked as "likely spam" fpr some reason and buried off to the side.
Wow. Thanks for the video link. That was fun to watch.
The other day I was doing some crosswind landing practice with the winds at John Wayne 260 @ 10, about 70 degrees off from runway 19L (now 20L). The wind in that video looks well beyond my comfort zone. On my eighth and final xwind landing, I put it down straight and centered with a great deal of aileron into the wind and full opposite rudder - landing the upwind main, then the downwind main, and then the nose wheel. I even remembered to keep aileron into the wind and ease it out on the flare. I got a nice compliment from the pilot of the plane holding short. Glad he only saw my final landing, and not any of the prior seven. lol
Michael Donavon yep same here could not use the VOR's on an x country.
Wow, instructor should pay more attention to R/T.
Hi Bernie, not sure I follow. What does "R/T" mean? Joe
R/T (Radio Telephony) = Communications (Comm).
The use of poor terminology and unnecessary language may confuse ATC who, in turn, may confuse you. Try to keep it simple ... it'll come with practice. But I really blame your instructor.
Good luck for the future.
Ah. OK. Can you provide a couple example of what I said versus what I should have said?
Well aren't you a peach. Let me clarify. I know what radio telephony is as I have a degree in electrical engineering and hold an extra class amateur radio license.
However, in my opinion, neither "Radio Telephony" nor "R/T" are commonly used in aviation. In fact, using Bernie's own words, I regard the use here as "poor terminology" that isn't "simple" and "may confuse" others.
9_0_7_Sierra...._Lima.... say request ... ahem Ramona... are you flirting with this guy ... * =P
my dream is to be a pilot . i pray that i fulfill my dream.
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Looks like he went for "sport pilot"
Hi Jeff, I trained mostly in a light sport aircraft (LSA), but did not pursue a sport pilot's license, but rather earned a standard private pilot certificate.
Szevasz Jóska
Hi Zoltan.