Cheddar lost the moment she said she doesn't like reality TV 😂 She was definitely deserving but knowing how she wouldn't let herself be exploited or tied to DR franchise forever, the choice of Danny was obvious.
For me the biggest controversy in drag race history is when Marina Summers didn’t win UK vs the world season 2… I genuinely stopped watching the show from that point.
true, but ella was more consistent throughout the whole competition and would've also deserved the win. they kinda just wanted to give krystal the crown for her uniqueness of being young and talented
I know, right?! Next to The Vivienne, she was the most famous drag queen before the show aired. In fact, she was more “mainstream famous” than Viv, as she was on The Voice UK, and she was a regular panellist on the BBC show ‘All Together Now’.
What bothers me about AS9 is that Angeria could've easily make it to the finale without having to do all that nonsense in the last episode 😭😭. If i was a drag race producer and i wanted to make angeria's win seem less frustrating i wouldve done this: -remove episode 11 completely and just have the talent show there. -keep Angeria in the top 2 for that episode but at least have Plastique/Jorgeous as the 2nd top. Give each queen in the top 1 star. -Introduce a twist where the winner of the lipsync wins an additional 2 stars (Angeria can easily beat Plastique, and Jorgeous with the right song). -episode 12 now becomes a classic rumix finale with the top 3 being Angeria with 6 badges, Roxxy with 5 badges, and either Jorgeous/Plastique with 5 badges. Since weve seen before Angie is rly good at this type of challenge, so in my mind she couldve easily been the best at the finale, making her eventual win seem less frustrating.
I will never understand why they wanted Plastique out of the top 3 so bad. Like, it was clear producers wanted either Angeria or Roxxxy to win and Plastique was literally lip sync canon fodder for them
@@donniesumling8549 I can count at least 3 most consistent queens got destroyed in the final lip sync and lost the season, but that's beside the point. The point is the RESULT of Angeria winning AS9 is not crazy, but the PROCESS is bullshit, the production could've easily come up with a better solution, and I'm specifically talking about the last two episodes.
@@geenalawrence8338 I meannnnn the queen of all queen lost that finale lipsync against Monet if we're being real YET the fans defend her winning all winners hmmm hmmm... so like y'all just keep picking and choosing once again....
That was Denim babes. Venus did great in every challenge and was the best in the finale hands down. The finale song base they gave the queens was awful but Venus was the only one that saved it with her lyrics.
@@frida.7831Venus didn't even deserve the one win that she got. The first win should have been Denim's easily. The frontrunners should have been Denim and Aurora. It's the same as during Season 3, making Giselle and Jaida the Top 2 instead of Giselle and Fiercalicious. It made zero sense.
As someone who recently rewatched UK2, I gotta say there was not a single episode that Lawrence didn’t have a storyline, that season was the Lawrence show, but yes I do remember rooting for Bimini. It’s criminal that she hasn’t been back for Allstars.
I never doubt Lawrence is going to win because she's definitely one of Ru's favs. I kinda like how it worked out because she's a better representation of DRUK than Bimini would. For Venus, I think native representation was important (DR Canada really has one of the most diverse cast of winners), plus Aurora will slay a versus the world series (I do think her charisma was not as strong as Venus and that was a determining factor)
i was pulling hard for aurora matrix when the canada 4 finale aired so i was one of the people that was underwhelmed with a venus win but OMG venus is actually SUCH a superstar. everything she's done since winning drag race has fully made me believe that she was the correct winner of that season idk shes just incredible
Angeria is so naturally kind and sweet, I think that’s the type of winner they wanted on a charity season. She MORE than deserved her win! I know Roxxy has come a long way but I remember her having some questionable moments on all stars 9 in terms of genuineness.
Agreed....and there are still plenty of us who do not care for Roxxy (speaking in terms of DR as I have no clue to who she is in real life), she has never been a likeable villain, just a villain. Undeniably talented and entertaining, just not crownable material. 😀
I will always stand by the fact that Ella lost due to that finale wig… it was so ugly that even I who was TeamElla at the time said “oh, no, please someone else”
I will live and die vor Angeria Paris van Michaels. No tea no shade but Roxxy was on Drag Race for the 3rd time, aaaand as a Lipsync Assasin, I've seen a lot of her and I didn't like most of what I saw of her played persona. Angeria on the other hand, funny, graceful, southern bell with humour, just the right amount of shady. I live for her, she embodies love and kindness while still being badass. Meanwhile production loves Roxxy soooo much that I started to hate it. And while Angeria won, she somehow managed to dodge seeming cocky or condescending, despite the favouring/meddeling of production. People are just mad their all time fave didn't win, no matter how much fame and fanfare she had.
UK 4 is actually controversial because it should’ve been a double crowing and it would’ve made so much sense. Those 2 queens are so talented and cherished by the fandom
I know the lip-syncs were bad, but plastique at least earned her place in the top so her charity could get the donation that reflects her performance. Also, I would argue she should have won the Rusical and talent show. Angeria won by going back and forth on the stage doing nothing in particular and vanjie won with a lip-sync. Yes it was a good number from Angeria and yes Vanjie was fierce but like... really? Both deserved that top spot over plastique? I'm sure a lot of people were mad about Roxxxy, but i saw an equal amount of anger at the injustice done to plastique and her charity, especially given the history with Asian queens on drag race. I think she won her first lip-sync during the smackdown, and that could have been a redemption moment for her. We will never know how she would have done in the other lip-syncs. We will never know how she would have done in the finale lip-sync (WHICH WERE ALL TERRIBLE BTW). Not gonna lie, the fact it was for charity is was made it worse because the only Asian charity got the least amount of money despite 4 challenge wins, should have been 5-6.
@@x0schulzy0x to be fair, she did the money situation all by herself. Bad lipsyncs can be excused, but something is up if Nina and Gottmik put up stronger fights than you
@eurodara the queens can know the lip-syncs, and in the moment, they struggle. I thought she performed perfectly fine and knew the words to 4 out of 5. It's just in 4 of them (potentially 3) she was beat by a fantastic queen in that area. The entire competition shouldn't rest on the shoulders of how well a queen can lip-sync in the context of non-elim, and she IS a fierce lip-syncer. All of the queens are talented and have different strengths. She was phenomenal in every challenge except for snatch game, and every runway was one of if not the best every time. Why are other queens allowed to perform sub-par or terribly in other challenges/runways, but plastique has a bad lip sync so the only Asian charity deserves the least amount of money? Absolutely phenomenal in all the challenges. There's no reason she shouldn't have had 5 wins going into the talent show anyway and then had the most unique, entertaining, funny, exquisite talent performance. Channel also got shafted on that... Why should queens bother to learn new skills and think outside the box if Ru is just gonna ignore them and pick the girls that do standard lipsyncs, or substandard relative to the other girls in Angeria's case?
@@x0schulzy0x Nina had plenty of problems in her performances, but knowing the words isn't one of them. And unlike Plastique, she tries to match the energy of the song. Also, it's crazy that you focus on Plastique being an Asian queen playing for an Asian charity (that has questionable leadership mind you) while ignoring that Angeria is the only Black queen playing for a Black charity
@@jesse021891 totally agreed. I think she became the worst winner of all time. The sad thing is that she's not a bad queen at all, just badly entitled for the crown
It was so bizarre going from not liking Krystal at the start of the season to being on her team 100% Her winning was a pleasant surprise too cause I thought they completely wrote her off by episode 7&8 when she wasn't getting wins
Roxxxy knew Angeria was great at everything so she continuously blocked her and that was Angeria’s crowning moment! Same with Jinkx! Ru knows who the real competition is
Gut feeling - i feel like the show won't ever crown a Queen who was the season's villian/most hated Queen in a previous season. No matter how well their time on a returning season is and no matter how well their redemption goes over. So why the likes of Roxxxy, Eureka, Kandy, Ginger, Silky never won, despite doing exceptional well in one of their returns. Pretty certain Kween will now join this group, even if she returns and dominates In these scenarios, I don't count the likes of Ra'Jah as i think she was out too early in s11 to become the main villain (which was Silky) and heck, even Alaska, while being a part of Rolasktox, avoided the main villain storyline thanks to Roxxxy being given that roll.
hmmm… 🤔 I definitely think you may be on to something here. it really could be that the “villains” are ONLY there to get their Ru-demption, and nothing more. also, given the fact that, unless you have never seen a single episode of Drag Race, you know that in some instances, it’s pretty clear that producers are the ones who determine who will win (RuPaul has said in multiple episodes and finales, with the cameras rolling that “…the final decision is mine to make”.) and, it makes sense that the producers choose to bring someone who deserves Ru-demotion, but is not going to win the crown no matter how well they do in the eyes of the fandom. this is a very interesting theory you’ve presented here. 💯
I am so tired of the narrative that Angeria was favored all season long and that poor Roxxxy was mistreated. Like, Roxxxy only got to the final 3 because Nina’s dumbass gave her a bonus badge and Ru gave her a completely undeserved win in the makeover. Angeria’s only push was the talent show, and she never got a single bonus badge, so yeah, she did deserve to be in the finale and win, wether you like it or not 🤷♂️
“Angeria’s only push was the talent show” Umm yeah… and that was worth 3 badges that she did not deserve. Should’ve most definitely gone to Plastique, Shannel or Jorgeous instead. Regardless, Angeria lost that finale lipsync HARD and it was ridiculous to claim she won.
@@geenalawrence8338 Chad won over Raven, Alaska won over Detox, Trixie won over Kennedy and Jinkx won over Monet. Final lip syncs have NEVER mattered on all stars, do you watch the show Tamar ?
@@geenalawrence8338you are not gonna talk about undeserved badges when the ENTIRE season badges where given to queens for literally no reason (nina and gottmik giving to roxxy and Vanjie, Jorgeous getting a badge for winning a mini challenge, Nina doubling her badge count because the cast likes her, Shannel and Jorgeous getting 2 badges for the rusical), if anything had there been no random badges given, Roxxxy, Angeria and Plastique would've all been tied with 4 badges each.
@@frog9311Angeria teria apenas uma vitória para falar a verdade, ela não mereceu vencer o episódio do perfume e muito menos o talent show, ambos pertenciam a Plastique Tiara, assim como o girl Group era da Plastique e Jorgeous
4:52 my final top three made it so I was happy and didn’t care who won it’s a special charity season so when people get pissed off about how people are being unfairly judged and not getting to the crown, it makes no sense because it’s like it’s a charity season. Everyone’s a winner.
On the subject of Global All Stars, i don't think its controversial because of who won, as Alyssa is one of the most beloved Ru girls, but because of the way the season played out. Most fans felt the favoritism carried Kween/Alyssa/Kitty through the season and all the other "non Ru girls", aka the other international queens, were paid dust. Thus, even if the last remaining non-Ru girl Nehellenia won at the end, a number of fans were gonna be upset, or at least unsurprised, at who won.
@@thatduckthatanimates I was also rooting for Aurora, as a matter of fact she had the best track record, but looking back, they wanted Venus to win from the beginning, also an acquaintance of mine said that Aurora winning at that time would have ruffled some feathers as there was a situation with Asian Canadians going on at the time.
Every Winners of CDR, feels very correct a 100%. Yes, on S4 I also loved Aurora Matrix but hey, if you know Canada, Priyanka and Icesis are from Toronto and Ottawa, Ontario, Giselle from Quebec and they needed a BC Queen to win coz Aurora is from Toronto, Ontario again. - just a thought :)
Venus winning over Aurora will forever piss me off I don’t wanna hear her name, follow her on social media or even think of her 😂 I enjoyed 4 queens more than her on her own season like I just don’t care for her! Kiki, Aurora, Melinda, Kitten were more winner worthy.
@@nickluvsanimals555Same here. I watched her season recently and there were some questionable moments, but overall, she made it VERY clear that she was a fit winner and had the full package.
I'm sure her reigning has been great so far and everything but my gosh she barely had any memorable moment the whole season, I kept forgetting she was there sometimes and that top placement in the makeover and snatch game? I mean c'mon, all storyline she could've had in all those episodes where compressed during that final so it felt very lackluster and non-sense
Lawrence was a perfect winner. Look at him today, he one of the most booked winners especially in Drag race shows usually as a host, and very interactive with the fans. As for bimini, never heard of him. 😅
I had high expectations for AS9, but the season wasn’t that great. Not having eliminations made it less exciting. It seems like production wanted to make sure all the queens were praised and had wins, which was nice, but boring.
People like you are why there is war. You just want excitement, not talent. Omg. non elimination gives the audience to see more of the queens. Be grateful.
All Stars 9 was a charity season but don't be fooled. It was also a non elimination season and every queen was paid for each episode no matter how they were doing in the competition. They all made out well. The storyline also clearly pointed to Angeria winning and it was clear as day when Roxxxy pulled that Oh No bit with the scissors. Also, Roxxxy was there on a Rudemption storyline. She was getting it and that's as far as that was going to go. The only shocking eliminations in drag race history that annoyed me were the ones where the fan base complained about too many white winners and production felt they needed to even out color spectrum among winners by crowning Jaida and giving Monet a crown alongside Trinity.
For me, Angeria was a front runner in her regular season, i was rooting for her. In all star season i knew she will do it far but it's true that was kneck to kneck with roxxxxy.
For me, I didn’t think that Krystal Versace would win UK 3 because, the prize was a show produced by WOW, and to me she didn’t show a side to her that would translate well into a show, with The Vivienne and Lawrence, I understand why they were chosen because they’re very funny, and a show for them would be easy to make.
Literally. He started talking about Down Under and I was like “wait which one is he gonna talk about”. Turns out, none of them were controversial, so what was the point of even mentioning the franchise 💀
@@maximeminassian6002 bringing up down under for nothing while saying 0 words about the other non english franchises vanessa winning over keta minaj comes to mind
I still remember watching DRDU 1 and seeing the reaction to Kita's win. There were happy comments, yeah, but I think most were just revealed the black facer didn't win in the end after Ru, black, forgave said black facer for their controversy. So, it really felt like coming out of war rather than celebration, like that scene of Thor in the Avengers trembling to eat.
Actually Pryianka was pretty controversial at the time in Canada. She had the worst track record and Rita was an already established legendary powerhouse name. I think what saved Pryianka is her charisma and the public opinion from the international viewers.
The hate that Angeria got is still so baffling to me. People like to scream how it's rigged because she won the talent show undeservedly and how Roxxxy did way better, but then forget that Roxxxy also got a controversial win for the makeover and was literally gifted one of her stars. Angeria is such a talented queen who you can tell *genuinely* loves the show. I can't really think of any other US Rugirl who's watched every international season and regularly celebrates the queens outside of the US. It's genuinely sad that such a lovely queen is getting hate for literally no real reason. Feel free to disagree with the win, but don't discredit a very valid and skilled winner in the process.
@@DonoZeekpeople are literally saying roxxxy ate more than Angelia which isn't true. Also, she watches the international seasons. Most of the fandom doesn't even watch the international seasons.
@@DonoZeek Angelia celebrates international styles of drag more than most winners. Also, she actively watches every franchise, which is something most winners don't even acknowledge.
Umm the reason why Angeria’s win was so controversial is because: - She received a couple of challenge and lipsync wins she did not deserve - She had one of the weakest finale “talents” and yet still won - She was obliterated by both Roxxxy and Vanjie in the finale lipsync I love Angeria but there’s no reason why she won.
She won because she was the most consistent player that season. She could've been in the top 2 for the Snatch Game and never bombed any challenge that season. Plus, she's beloved by nearly every queen from every franchise. Finales rarely matter and the talent show is skewed in nature. You don't have to agree with the win, but you won't disrespect her by saying she doesn't deserve it or you don't see it over someone that was handed stars twice
@@donniesumling8549 She was definitely NOT the most consistent when Roxxxy was right there. Roxxxy had a better track record, was more consistent and destroyed Angie in the finale lipsync. Lie to yourself all you want but it doesn’t change the fact that her win was BS.
@@geenalawrence8338 are there 2 Roxxxys? Because the more consistent player you see isn't the Tasha Salad bomb that I see. And for someone that's against "undeserved wins" (though Angie could've won another challenge or two), you're forgetting that Vanjie and Roxxxy had the most divisive win of the season ON TOP of a gifted star. Funny that your gripes for fairness don't apply to Roxxxy innit?
@@donniesumling8549 Girl you clearly been using Jinkx’s perfume cuz u sound mad delusional. Angeria’s girl group challenge and talent show wins are both considered by the entire fanbase to be completely undeserved and for good reason. She didn’t even deserve a couple of those lipsync wins. Love how even you cant deny that she was crushed in the finale lipsync because it’s a fact, and has been the determining factor for the winner in the last 7-8 years bar All Stars 7. Anyway talk to the wall, you’re clearly a few strings loose.
@@donniesumling8549 all stars 9 was all over the place, a lot of queens were robbed and others clearly shoved down our throats, but from a story telling perspective Roxxxy was the winner. Angeria has the weakest arc outta all the winners also the worst looks.
The comments are talking about Angeria deserved to win cause she is kind and sweet 😅 sorry but that shouldn’t be a deciding factor if that was the case then she should be miss congeniality BUT she won soo it doesn’t matter although I do agree it was shocking it gave Trixie Mattel winner vibes
RuPaul didn’t need to prove that the UK Ambassador thing was a good choice as, overall, that was quite irrelevant. If it hadn’t been mentioned on the show, 99% of fans wouldn’t have ever known it happened. I think The Vivienne was just a more commercial, polished queen who would do big things as the winner of the franchise (which she did). Similarly to how Bebe was a better representative for the start of Drag Race as a whole, The Viv had the power to launch the show into the mainstream as a winner and she succeeded
I cannot help but feel like Angie was crowned the winner because it was a charity season. It’s the only thing that makes sense considering the stars she was up against.
Krystal is a fave of mine. She really gagged me with her looks. I wish Charity was more appreciated and that Victoria never left. But they were the only ones with really great looks. I know there is more to drag than looks but that is my main thing 😅
I was super bummed for Ella. She was by far my favorite queen that season, and she’s still one of my top three favorites from all of the U.K. seasons. The slayed that competition until the finale (and I think she even killed the Hey Sis, It’s Christmas performance in finale) and the crown should have rightfully belonged to her, only to lose it all at the very end thanks to a tragically poor final runway and lip sync performance. We NEED her back on a Vs. the World (or a regular UK All-Stars if they ever do that, which they absolutely should).
Only the only win I can’t agree with is all stars Rocky should have won I’ve rewatched it multiple times and the win still doesn’t feel justified I was rooting other queens but Rocky track record was the best honestly it feels like a slap in the face still
the most controversial one thus far has not been included in the two videos made. no winner announcement has been panned more than uk vs tw2. they did some serious course correction at the final episode that didn't even make sense. it was so bad that there was severe backlash over it.
Woah woah there was absolutely no controversy with Viviane wining she was in top 6 out of 7 episode she competed it while divina has 2 safe and 1 low and tbh her makeover win was controversial so was her high placement in advert Vivian was miles ahead of everyone that season Also sister scarlet was not safe she was in top 6 out of 9 episode she competed in she was always runner up and Priyanka was safe in 5 out the 9 episode she competed in
Looking at the actual placements in Uk season 2 , Lawrence and bimini have almost the same track record. They were both safe or high the same amount, both were in the bottom 2 once and Bimini got one more win than Lawrence in the final competitive episode. The edit made it feel like Lawrence lost steam in the second half but that's because she just didn't win again after the girl group. She was in the bottom for snatch game but was never low the rest of the season. Honestly due to COVID, some of those later challenges were just quiet. The whole cast just seemed to do meh in some of the challenges with Bimini being the one doing well. Standup challenge felt like Lawrence was low but she was actually high with the other 3 being low. Same in the acting, she was high and Bimini won with the other two being bottom.
tbh Shannel brought the Cirque du Soleil, Plastique toast marshmallows on stage and Jorgeous has been throw to slide like a goddess, while Angie just served some lazy performance to her full autotuned song... even Nina did better than her. everyone did. she shouldn't be in the finals in first place.
DRAG RACE MEXICO 2!!! Leexa Fox only won because Garccone,Luna and Electra got eliminated and they couldn’t crown Eva for controversies. (Her vs LMD)Wasn’t a satisfying edit for the season at all.
@@kittens_shades3901 right like she was in the bottom for the sports sewing challenge when she had an actually nice outfit and Lexxa over there was half naked wearing ribbons!! And then when she got eliminated her luchadora look was the best imo
04:51 I was talking to my friend yesterday and we fully agreed that we don't care about Angeria winning, giving we both think she's talented, brilliant, amazing, showstopping, spectacular... We were disappointed that Roxxxy wasn't crowned. It was a huge boner killer. But I will never be out there spreading hate on a queen I think is more than deserving a crown (I just wish it wasn't this one 😮💨)
I gotta be honest, I can’t pull for Roxxy because I always think about how on AS2 she was in the bottom all the time and Alaska saved her over Katya because of that dumb old navy looking top.
Honestly no the reason why people were mad about anegrias win is because she got in the top 3 because of her talent show win but i have yet to meet anyone who says that angerias talent show was top 2 material. So when it comes to someone winning a season thanks to a challenge win which was generally agreed upon that it was undeserved well it really takes away from her win. Cause without the talent show win she wouldnt have even been elegible for the top 3 win
girl well you ain't seeing a lot of people. a bunch of girls in the drag race family enjoyed angeria's talent. also a bunch of fans love angeria's talent so what the fuck are you talking about?
The fans were more upset because Angie didn't deserve her place in the final to begin with. Her talent show was one of the worst and the truth is that competition wise, especially Plastique or even Jorgeous deserved it more than Angie or Vanjie to be there. Then she (Angie) goes a lost the final lypsinc, we all saw that
Angie most definitely deserved her place in the finale she did great all season the final 3 should’ve been Angie,Roxxy and Plastique but production got involved too much and then they had to course correct and get her there because you can not tell me Jorg deserved to be in the final 3 based off her performance all season
Angie 100% deserved to be in the finale. She was by far the most consistent when it came to challenges. If it wasn’t for all the bonus badges given, Jorgeous would’ve never been even close to being top 3
Angeria had no bad weeks and literally was in the top 3 with her wins BEFORE the talent show win, which was admittedly a very produced fourth win. Jourgeous literally got 2 of her "badges" gifted. Come on.
For All Stars 9 I think the judging was just off. I’m gonna throw in my opinion on judging because my top 3 is very different. Ep 1 - Girl groups Win - Angie Top 2 - Jorgeous Highs - Vangie + Plastique Ep 2 - Ball Win - Gottmik Top 2 - Plastique Highs - Roxxxy + Shannel Ep 3 - Snatch game Win - Angie Top 2 - Nina High - Gottmik + Shannel (Why wasn’t the best in each group chosen originally like every other season? It’s not like everyone in group 1 flopped) Ep 4 - Makeover Win - Jorgeous Top 2 - Plastique High - Nina + Gottmik Extra stars: Nina -> Roxxxy Angie -> Vangie Ep 5 - Commercials Win - Roxxxy Top 2 - Plastique High - Angie + Vangie Ep 6 - Roast Win - Angie Top 2 - Jorgeous High - Roxxxy, Plastique + Shannel (This one was so tough to judge and I was so close to leaving plastique on the top) Ep 7 - Acting Win - Nina Top 2 - Angie High - Jorgeous + Shannel Ep 8 - Design Win - Roxxxy Top 2 - Plastique High - Nina + Gottmik Ep 9 - Rusical Win - Vangie Win - Jorgeous High - Everyone but Gottmik Extra badges - Vangie + Jorgeous Ep 10 - Lalaparuza Win - Roxxxy Top 2 - Shannel High - Angie + Vangie Ep 12 - Talent show (Worth 2 stars) Win - Shannel Win - Jorgeous High - Plastique + Vangie (Again so difficult between Jorgeous and plastique but that slide was unbelievable) Also Ep 12 - Finale
You are delusional, Angeria deserved a one victory, considering that the perfume challenge was from Plastique, the girl group that you put Angeria in was CLEARLY from Jorgeous and Plastique, just like the Talent Show she didn't deserve, the person who should have won was Jorgeous, Plastique or Shanell
@@leo-2512 Ya thats totally fair this was just my opinion. Plastique did destroy the girl group and honestly id probably give her the win over jorgeous for the roast as well. Im an Angeria stan so thanks for checking my bias.❤
Bimini won three more challenges after the girl groups challenge, not two. Drag Race UK premiered in 2019, not 2018. UK Season 2 was the season that was interrupted by COVID, not Season 3.
What made Venus a more deserving winner at the end is the same reason why Giselle Lullaby deserves her win. While Giselle is a Quebecois and a Francophone, Venus is a Two-Spirited half-Indigenous Metis individual. Two-spirit is the umbrella term used by Indigenous population in the North American region that identified themselves to have both as a male and a female. As we know, queens who are part of the Indigenous population is quite underrepresented in Drag Race, hence having this representation going for her made her win more deserving than it did initially.
@@eraldmurati7697 I am basing it from what WildSpeer said about Gisele. I always think of her diversity as a factor but Gisele have the best track record on her season and that matters more
Wow that argument sucks. Brownie points prize for being a collectionable token? What happened to earning it for your performance? Representation was fulfilled when they casted her. Anything beyond it's on them not on things they cannot control like their ethnicity.
@@eurodaraIs it not possible that the producers just didn't do a great job AND she just so happens to be Native? Why do you have to bring race into it?
The actual first franchise to come out of the main Franchise is DR Thailand. It premiered over a year before UK.
You're right. I guess I was thinking of Ru hosted ones, but definitely a correction I should make.
@@Wild-Speer in that case, yes, but also according to Wiki, UK premiered in 2019.
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@@Wild-Speer no prob! Love your channel!
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Danny and Cheddar should have been a double crowning.
Specially when there is no price money 😂
@@yassercastillo2607THIS 😂
No, Cheddar should have won.
AGREED
Cheddar lost the moment she said she doesn't like reality TV 😂 She was definitely deserving but knowing how she wouldn't let herself be exploited or tied to DR franchise forever, the choice of Danny was obvious.
9:25 Bimini actually won 3 more challenges after the girl group breakout. She won Snatch Game, the stand up and the acting challenge.
For me the biggest controversy in drag race history is when Marina Summers didn’t win UK vs the world season 2… I genuinely stopped watching the show from that point.
That was wild marina or ,a grand dame should have won tia coffee ?.....ummmmm gtfo
clock that tea! (Ps: I randomly yell 'I'm a Phillipina' while driving 😀
I’m sorry but Krystal literally stomped on Ella and Kitty in the finale. Anyone saying she doesn’t deserve the crown needs to rewatch this finale asap
true, but ella was more consistent throughout the whole competition and would've also deserved the win. they kinda just wanted to give krystal the crown for her uniqueness of being young and talented
Fully, it gets to a point where even if your track record is amazing, when you falter that hard in the finale... It feels weird to give you the crown
also, she deserved to win the fugly ball and the design challenge, woulda have 4 wins
And also deserved to lipsync multiple times. Add that@@BenjamínMorales-k5b
@@BenjamínMorales-k5b she didn't deserve to win episode 2
Both Danny and Cheddar should have won that season and I dont understand how could they just not crown them both
especially cause they didn't have to give away price money anyway
That low mid-forhead wig Danny had on during the finale was so wrong, Cheddar had my preference by far even just based on this lol
I am happy to say that All Stars 9 has been completely wiped from my memory, aside from Plastique's runways.
Even tho I loved plastique outfits but I was shocked angeria won even tho he is one of my favorite
Calling Davina De Campo an underdog is wild
yeah, her and Vivienne dominated the season
Davina was annoying
To me she was the underdog
I know, right?! Next to The Vivienne, she was the most famous drag queen before the show aired. In fact, she was more “mainstream famous” than Viv, as she was on The Voice UK, and she was a regular panellist on the BBC show ‘All Together Now’.
@@nikitashaitan9984 Funny, I thought then (but less so after All Winners) that The Vivenne was annoying. 😄
What bothers me about AS9 is that Angeria could've easily make it to the finale without having to do all that nonsense in the last episode 😭😭.
If i was a drag race producer and i wanted to make angeria's win seem less frustrating i wouldve done this:
-remove episode 11 completely and just have the talent show there.
-keep Angeria in the top 2 for that episode but at least have Plastique/Jorgeous as the 2nd top. Give each queen in the top 1 star.
-Introduce a twist where the winner of the lipsync wins an additional 2 stars (Angeria can easily beat Plastique, and Jorgeous with the right song).
-episode 12 now becomes a classic rumix finale with the top 3 being Angeria with 6 badges, Roxxy with 5 badges, and either Jorgeous/Plastique with 5 badges.
Since weve seen before Angie is rly good at this type of challenge, so in my mind she couldve easily been the best at the finale, making her eventual win seem less frustrating.
I will never understand why they wanted Plastique out of the top 3 so bad. Like, it was clear producers wanted either Angeria or Roxxxy to win and Plastique was literally lip sync canon fodder for them
Angeria still wouldn’t deserve the win because Roxxxy and Vanjie DESTROYED her in the finale lipsync.
@@geenalawrence8338name another queen that was as consistent as Angie that season. Quickly
@@donniesumling8549 I can count at least 3 most consistent queens got destroyed in the final lip sync and lost the season, but that's beside the point. The point is the RESULT of Angeria winning AS9 is not crazy, but the PROCESS is bullshit, the production could've easily come up with a better solution, and I'm specifically talking about the last two episodes.
@@geenalawrence8338 I meannnnn the queen of all queen lost that finale lipsync against Monet if we're being real YET the fans defend her winning all winners hmmm hmmm... so like y'all just keep picking and choosing once again....
"...Or at the time the amazing performer Kween Kong" 😫😂 You did not!!! Haha
Venus win still does not make sense. They were straight pushing her through the whole competition.
That was Denim babes. Venus did great in every challenge and was the best in the finale hands down. The finale song base they gave the queens was awful but Venus was the only one that saved it with her lyrics.
@@frida.7831 ok……. So your point?? . I didn’t even bother to read. 😂😂 I can’t careless about your comment.
Venus was not good why didn't araura winthats my question
@@frida.7831Venus didn't even deserve the one win that she got. The first win should have been Denim's easily. The frontrunners should have been Denim and Aurora. It's the same as during Season 3, making Giselle and Jaida the Top 2 instead of Giselle and Fiercalicious. It made zero sense.
Melinda would’ve won with gratitude 😔
Haha I loved her unhinged moments we need more Melinda
After seeing La Voix losing, this video needs to be redone.
As someone who recently rewatched UK2, I gotta say there was not a single episode that Lawrence didn’t have a storyline, that season was the Lawrence show, but yes I do remember rooting for Bimini. It’s criminal that she hasn’t been back for Allstars.
She said she will come back if ru allowed drag kings to compete
I never doubt Lawrence is going to win because she's definitely one of Ru's favs. I kinda like how it worked out because she's a better representation of DRUK than Bimini would. For Venus, I think native representation was important (DR Canada really has one of the most diverse cast of winners), plus Aurora will slay a versus the world series (I do think her charisma was not as strong as Venus and that was a determining factor)
Bimini is also allegedly a problematic person to work with so Lawrence was a better ambassador for Drag Race UK.
You think Venus had more charisma than Aurora ?!
i was pulling hard for aurora matrix when the canada 4 finale aired so i was one of the people that was underwhelmed with a venus win but OMG venus is actually SUCH a superstar. everything she's done since winning drag race has fully made me believe that she was the correct winner of that season idk shes just incredible
What has Venus done-??? I haven't heard of her since she won-
Scream all you want but Production decides on who wins
yeah we all fucking know that
Really? Are you sure? 🤯
I was rooting for Aurora to win so badly… but I’m happy we get to see representation for drag queens who wear no makeup with Venus as the winner
Oop
You shouldn’t be, looking at your profile pic you need a whole lotta makeup to fix that face.
Lol
Aurora should have won
@@imbored2200 no.
When i saw Angeria drank that 40 with pink eyeshadow on…i felt real seen 😂
@@xprettyboix18 she's truly a Southern queen lol
Angeria is so naturally kind and sweet, I think that’s the type of winner they wanted on a charity season. She MORE than deserved her win! I know Roxxy has come a long way but I remember her having some questionable moments on all stars 9 in terms of genuineness.
and not great runways.......
@@onlyrealtalentedartists yet fashion photo ruview still gave her like 20 toots 😭
Agreed....and there are still plenty of us who do not care for Roxxy (speaking in terms of DR as I have no clue to who she is in real life), she has never been a likeable villain, just a villain. Undeniably talented and entertaining, just not crownable material. 😀
@@jcruz4759roxxxy's like lycorish, you either love or hate her. Im not fond of her but my mother likes her.
1:17 - say what you will about Angeria, but this gown is gorgeous!
I will always stand by the fact that Ella lost due to that finale wig… it was so ugly that even I who was TeamElla at the time said “oh, no, please someone else”
I will live and die vor Angeria Paris van Michaels.
No tea no shade but Roxxy was on Drag Race for the 3rd time, aaaand as a Lipsync Assasin, I've seen a lot of her and I didn't like most of what I saw of her played persona.
Angeria on the other hand, funny, graceful, southern bell with humour, just the right amount of shady.
I live for her, she embodies love and kindness while still being badass.
Meanwhile production loves Roxxy soooo much that I started to hate it.
And while Angeria won, she somehow managed to dodge seeming cocky or condescending, despite the favouring/meddeling of production.
People are just mad their all time fave didn't win, no matter how much fame and fanfare she had.
Keep it down. The fandom isn't ready for the truth.
UK 4 is actually controversial because it should’ve been a double crowing and it would’ve made so much sense. Those 2 queens are so talented and cherished by the fandom
plastique was never gonna will as9, but she definitely deserved to be in the final 3.
I know the lip-syncs were bad, but plastique at least earned her place in the top so her charity could get the donation that reflects her performance. Also, I would argue she should have won the Rusical and talent show. Angeria won by going back and forth on the stage doing nothing in particular and vanjie won with a lip-sync. Yes it was a good number from Angeria and yes Vanjie was fierce but like... really? Both deserved that top spot over plastique?
I'm sure a lot of people were mad about Roxxxy, but i saw an equal amount of anger at the injustice done to plastique and her charity, especially given the history with Asian queens on drag race. I think she won her first lip-sync during the smackdown, and that could have been a redemption moment for her. We will never know how she would have done in the other lip-syncs. We will never know how she would have done in the finale lip-sync (WHICH WERE ALL TERRIBLE BTW). Not gonna lie, the fact it was for charity is was made it worse because the only Asian charity got the least amount of money despite 4 challenge wins, should have been 5-6.
@@x0schulzy0x to be fair, she did the money situation all by herself. Bad lipsyncs can be excused, but something is up if Nina and Gottmik put up stronger fights than you
No, she did not earn her place in the top when she didn't bother to learn lyrics.
@eurodara the queens can know the lip-syncs, and in the moment, they struggle. I thought she performed perfectly fine and knew the words to 4 out of 5. It's just in 4 of them (potentially 3) she was beat by a fantastic queen in that area. The entire competition shouldn't rest on the shoulders of how well a queen can lip-sync in the context of non-elim, and she IS a fierce lip-syncer. All of the queens are talented and have different strengths. She was phenomenal in every challenge except for snatch game, and every runway was one of if not the best every time. Why are other queens allowed to perform sub-par or terribly in other challenges/runways, but plastique has a bad lip sync so the only Asian charity deserves the least amount of money? Absolutely phenomenal in all the challenges. There's no reason she shouldn't have had 5 wins going into the talent show anyway and then had the most unique, entertaining, funny, exquisite talent performance. Channel also got shafted on that... Why should queens bother to learn new skills and think outside the box if Ru is just gonna ignore them and pick the girls that do standard lipsyncs, or substandard relative to the other girls in Angeria's case?
@donniesumling8549 did Nina put up a better fight though??
@@x0schulzy0x Nina had plenty of problems in her performances, but knowing the words isn't one of them. And unlike Plastique, she tries to match the energy of the song. Also, it's crazy that you focus on Plastique being an Asian queen playing for an Asian charity (that has questionable leadership mind you) while ignoring that Angeria is the only Black queen playing for a Black charity
As someone from the UK it’s wild to hear Baga described as a villain, really shows how cultures impact our perspectives on things
Angeria's talent show was sh*t! That's my main problem with her being in the final and winning!
Ikr? She knew she would've won everything anyway so she didn't even bother to try...
She didn’t win the talent show or finale lip synch, hey crowing will forever be trash
@@jesse021891 totally agreed. I think she became the worst winner of all time. The sad thing is that she's not a bad queen at all, just badly entitled for the crown
@@VikcrazylukTHE WORST? I don’t agree with her win either but there are way worse than Angeria
@@teehee3657 well, then who do you think is the worst?
It was so bizarre going from not liking Krystal at the start of the season to being on her team 100% Her winning was a pleasant surprise too cause I thought they completely wrote her off by episode 7&8 when she wasn't getting wins
Roxxxy knew Angeria was great at everything so she continuously blocked her and that was Angeria’s crowning moment! Same with Jinkx! Ru knows who the real competition is
Gut feeling - i feel like the show won't ever crown a Queen who was the season's villian/most hated Queen in a previous season. No matter how well their time on a returning season is and no matter how well their redemption goes over.
So why the likes of Roxxxy, Eureka, Kandy, Ginger, Silky never won, despite doing exceptional well in one of their returns. Pretty certain Kween will now join this group, even if she returns and dominates
In these scenarios, I don't count the likes of Ra'Jah as i think she was out too early in s11 to become the main villain (which was Silky) and heck, even Alaska, while being a part of Rolasktox, avoided the main villain storyline thanks to Roxxxy being given that roll.
hmmm… 🤔
I definitely think you may be on to something here.
it really could be that the “villains” are ONLY there to get their Ru-demption, and nothing more.
also, given the fact that, unless you have never seen a single episode of Drag Race, you know that in some instances, it’s pretty clear that producers are the ones who determine who will win (RuPaul has said in multiple episodes and finales, with the cameras rolling that “…the final decision is mine to make”.)
and, it makes sense that the producers choose to bring someone who deserves Ru-demotion, but is not going to win the crown no matter how well they do in the eyes of the fandom.
this is a very interesting theory you’ve presented here. 💯
I'm sad to admit it...but I never got over how Roxxy treated poor Jinx in their season. 😉😉😉
I am so tired of the narrative that Angeria was favored all season long and that poor Roxxxy was mistreated. Like, Roxxxy only got to the final 3 because Nina’s dumbass gave her a bonus badge and Ru gave her a completely undeserved win in the makeover. Angeria’s only push was the talent show, and she never got a single bonus badge, so yeah, she did deserve to be in the finale and win, wether you like it or not 🤷♂️
“Angeria’s only push was the talent show”
Umm yeah… and that was worth 3 badges that she did not deserve. Should’ve most definitely gone to Plastique, Shannel or Jorgeous instead.
Regardless, Angeria lost that finale lipsync HARD and it was ridiculous to claim she won.
@@geenalawrence8338 Chad won over Raven, Alaska won over Detox, Trixie won over Kennedy and Jinkx won over Monet. Final lip syncs have NEVER mattered on all stars, do you watch the show Tamar ?
@@geenalawrence8338you are not gonna talk about undeserved badges when the ENTIRE season badges where given to queens for literally no reason (nina and gottmik giving to roxxy and Vanjie, Jorgeous getting a badge for winning a mini challenge, Nina doubling her badge count because the cast likes her, Shannel and Jorgeous getting 2 badges for the rusical), if anything had there been no random badges given, Roxxxy, Angeria and Plastique would've all been tied with 4 badges each.
@@frog9311 THAT
@@frog9311Angeria teria apenas uma vitória para falar a verdade, ela não mereceu vencer o episódio do perfume e muito menos o talent show, ambos pertenciam a Plastique Tiara, assim como o girl Group era da Plastique e Jorgeous
roxxxxy gave the crown to angeria by shitting bricks out of fear of competition as angeria was simply being herself, and guess what? she won
4:52 my final top three made it so I was happy and didn’t care who won it’s a special charity season so when people get pissed off about how people are being unfairly judged and not getting to the crown, it makes no sense because it’s like it’s a charity season. Everyone’s a winner.
Ella Vaday’s finale dress was the nail in her coffin, period. Krystal was polished from start to finish.
Krystal is one of the best winners ever. Fight me!
I got your back on this one...I was mesmerized whenever they were onscreen - full face of makeup in both. 😀
On the subject of Global All Stars, i don't think its controversial because of who won, as Alyssa is one of the most beloved Ru girls, but because of the way the season played out. Most fans felt the favoritism carried Kween/Alyssa/Kitty through the season and all the other "non Ru girls", aka the other international queens, were paid dust. Thus, even if the last remaining non-Ru girl Nehellenia won at the end, a number of fans were gonna be upset, or at least unsurprised, at who won.
i was rooting for aurora, but i thought that venus would win.
@@thatduckthatanimates I was also rooting for Aurora, as a matter of fact she had the best track record, but looking back, they wanted Venus to win from the beginning, also an acquaintance of mine said that Aurora winning at that time would have ruffled some feathers as there was a situation with Asian Canadians going on at the time.
Every Winners of CDR, feels very correct a 100%. Yes, on S4 I also loved Aurora Matrix but hey, if you know Canada, Priyanka and Icesis are from Toronto and Ottawa, Ontario, Giselle from Quebec and they needed a BC Queen to win coz Aurora is from Toronto, Ontario again. - just a thought :)
@adrianschutz405 What was going on with Asian Canadians-???
RIP The Vivienne
Angeria deserves her win. Straight up. I won't tolerate any hateful nonsense thrown her way.
I remember the whole fandom being upset that Giselle won and it wasn’t Fierce
Venus winning over Aurora will forever piss me off I don’t wanna hear her name, follow her on social media or even think of her 😂 I enjoyed 4 queens more than her on her own season like I just don’t care for her! Kiki, Aurora, Melinda, Kitten were more winner worthy.
Venus might just be my least favorite drag race winner of all time LMAO... she was so pushed and didn't even deserve her one win imo 😭
I actually quite liked her and thought she deserved the win
@@nickluvsanimals555Same here. I watched her season recently and there were some questionable moments, but overall, she made it VERY clear that she was a fit winner and had the full package.
I'm sure her reigning has been great so far and everything but my gosh she barely had any memorable moment the whole season, I kept forgetting she was there sometimes and that top placement in the makeover and snatch game? I mean c'mon, all storyline she could've had in all those episodes where compressed during that final so it felt very lackluster and non-sense
Can't do makeup , isn't funny , can't sew , can't dance. I guess anyone can win now 😅
im so happy angeria won tbh shes such a kind and genuine person and she was doing amazong on all stars
Lawrence was a perfect winner. Look at him today, he one of the most booked winners especially in Drag race shows usually as a host, and very interactive with the fans. As for bimini, never heard of him. 😅
Use the correct pronouns please. Esp if your a fan of drag.
Angie deserved to win.
nahhh
I was pleased when I heard she won. But honestly, I still would've been so happy if any of the AS9 cast won. I love them all so much.
@@dumptruck_babs this!!! ❤️
She lost the talent show and lip sync gurl, she shouldn’t off even been top 3
Angeria won because they crowned nymphia over shapphira, and roxxy lost because they were going to crown Alyssa later
Girl bye
Not you thinking you were eating with the production math. Angeria and nymphia both ate and won fairly
Angeria is my favorite controversial winner. I LOVE ME SOME HER!!!!!
I had high expectations for AS9, but the season wasn’t that great. Not having eliminations made it less exciting. It seems like production wanted to make sure all the queens were praised and had wins, which was nice, but boring.
Yall just like produced drama and that your problem
I had high hopes too, but it was just boring in the end.
People like you are why there is war. You just want excitement, not talent. Omg. non elimination gives the audience to see more of the queens. Be grateful.
All Stars 9 was a charity season but don't be fooled. It was also a non elimination season and every queen was paid for each episode no matter how they were doing in the competition. They all made out well. The storyline also clearly pointed to Angeria winning and it was clear as day when Roxxxy pulled that Oh No bit with the scissors. Also, Roxxxy was there on a Rudemption storyline. She was getting it and that's as far as that was going to go.
The only shocking eliminations in drag race history that annoyed me were the ones where the fan base complained about too many white winners and production felt they needed to even out color spectrum among winners by crowning Jaida and giving Monet a crown alongside Trinity.
I think in all stars 9, the most obvious answer to win was roxxy and plastique
For me, Angeria was a front runner in her regular season, i was rooting for her. In all star season i knew she will do it far but it's true that was kneck to kneck with roxxxxy.
Angeria is sickening point blank... period... y'all can pound sand. 😂
The Vivienne's track record was way better than DDC... She deserved that win
Angeria winning Season 9 of All Stars is not controversial to me.
For me, I didn’t think that Krystal Versace would win UK 3 because, the prize was a show produced by WOW, and to me she didn’t show a side to her that would translate well into a show, with The Vivienne and Lawrence, I understand why they were chosen because they’re very funny, and a show for them would be easy to make.
Where is fashion photo ruview can we talk about that
I’m so happy to hear some CDR3 praise. I LOVE that season.
Not only is drag race uk not the first spin off of drag race, you also got the air date wrong
Love Bimini and Ella Va Day
This video is sloppy and has some inaccuracies
Literally. He started talking about Down Under and I was like “wait which one is he gonna talk about”. Turns out, none of them were controversial, so what was the point of even mentioning the franchise 💀
@@maximeminassian6002 bringing up down under for nothing while saying 0 words about the other non english franchises
vanessa winning over keta minaj comes to mind
I still remember watching DRDU 1 and seeing the reaction to Kita's win. There were happy comments, yeah, but I think most were just revealed the black facer didn't win in the end after Ru, black, forgave said black facer for their controversy. So, it really felt like coming out of war rather than celebration, like that scene of Thor in the Avengers trembling to eat.
I'm just sick and tired of the fandom being way too soft. They would have never survived US seasons 1-3.
Actually Pryianka was pretty controversial at the time in Canada. She had the worst track record and Rita was an already established legendary powerhouse name. I think what saved Pryianka is her charisma and the public opinion from the international viewers.
The hate that Angeria got is still so baffling to me. People like to scream how it's rigged because she won the talent show undeservedly and how Roxxxy did way better, but then forget that Roxxxy also got a controversial win for the makeover and was literally gifted one of her stars. Angeria is such a talented queen who you can tell *genuinely* loves the show. I can't really think of any other US Rugirl who's watched every international season and regularly celebrates the queens outside of the US. It's genuinely sad that such a lovely queen is getting hate for literally no real reason. Feel free to disagree with the win, but don't discredit a very valid and skilled winner in the process.
Honey, no one is doing that. They just how she received Jimbo treatment on all stars 9 but another way.
@@DonoZeekpeople are literally saying roxxxy ate more than Angelia which isn't true. Also, she watches the international seasons. Most of the fandom doesn't even watch the international seasons.
@vstoneman exactly my point. Also, what's the last point?
@@DonoZeek Angelia celebrates international styles of drag more than most winners. Also, she actively watches every franchise, which is something most winners don't even acknowledge.
Angie deservs
Global is gonna be the most controversial if anyone other than Nehellenia wins 😂
I love how almost all the uk winners were “fans wanted the other person to win”… it’s crazy how bad they are at picking winners
Add La Voix to the list! 😂
Umm the reason why Angeria’s win was so controversial is because:
- She received a couple of challenge and lipsync wins she did not deserve
- She had one of the weakest finale “talents” and yet still won
- She was obliterated by both Roxxxy and Vanjie in the finale lipsync
I love Angeria but there’s no reason why she won.
She won because she was the most consistent player that season. She could've been in the top 2 for the Snatch Game and never bombed any challenge that season. Plus, she's beloved by nearly every queen from every franchise. Finales rarely matter and the talent show is skewed in nature. You don't have to agree with the win, but you won't disrespect her by saying she doesn't deserve it or you don't see it over someone that was handed stars twice
@@donniesumling8549 She was definitely NOT the most consistent when Roxxxy was right there.
Roxxxy had a better track record, was more consistent and destroyed Angie in the finale lipsync.
Lie to yourself all you want but it doesn’t change the fact that her win was BS.
@@geenalawrence8338 are there 2 Roxxxys? Because the more consistent player you see isn't the Tasha Salad bomb that I see. And for someone that's against "undeserved wins" (though Angie could've won another challenge or two), you're forgetting that Vanjie and Roxxxy had the most divisive win of the season ON TOP of a gifted star. Funny that your gripes for fairness don't apply to Roxxxy innit?
@@donniesumling8549 Girl you clearly been using Jinkx’s perfume cuz u sound mad delusional. Angeria’s girl group challenge and talent show wins are both considered by the entire fanbase to be completely undeserved and for good reason. She didn’t even deserve a couple of those lipsync wins.
Love how even you cant deny that she was crushed in the finale lipsync because it’s a fact, and has been the determining factor for the winner in the last 7-8 years bar All Stars 7.
Anyway talk to the wall, you’re clearly a few strings loose.
@@donniesumling8549 all stars 9 was all over the place, a lot of queens were robbed and others clearly shoved down our throats, but from a story telling perspective Roxxxy was the winner. Angeria has the weakest arc outta all the winners also the worst looks.
I can see why Angie or Lawrence won, but Venus... I will never understand.
The comments are talking about Angeria deserved to win cause she is kind and sweet 😅 sorry but that shouldn’t be a deciding factor if that was the case then she should be miss congeniality
BUT she won soo it doesn’t matter although I do agree it was shocking it gave Trixie Mattel winner vibes
Canada wants diverse winner circle.
RuPaul didn’t need to prove that the UK Ambassador thing was a good choice as, overall, that was quite irrelevant. If it hadn’t been mentioned on the show, 99% of fans wouldn’t have ever known it happened. I think The Vivienne was just a more commercial, polished queen who would do big things as the winner of the franchise (which she did). Similarly to how Bebe was a better representative for the start of Drag Race as a whole, The Viv had the power to launch the show into the mainstream as a winner and she succeeded
I cannot help but feel like Angie was crowned the winner because it was a charity season. It’s the only thing that makes sense considering the stars she was up against.
You should talk about Drag Race Spain S3 and AS
Asttina Mandella didn’t “not continue” she was eliminated and wasn’t chosen to return alongside Cherry (may she rest in peace)
It’s surprising people were mad at Venus when she won… everyone else was just missing something
The vs the world series (UK and Canada) and Global All-stars gotta be the messiest of them all.
Krystal is a fave of mine. She really gagged me with her looks. I wish Charity was more appreciated and that Victoria never left. But they were the only ones with really great looks. I know there is more to drag than looks but that is my main thing 😅
Victoria is so overrated, and her looks tacky .....
Angeria only won because she wasn´t sued LOL 🤣🤣
I was super bummed for Ella. She was by far my favorite queen that season, and she’s still one of my top three favorites from all of the U.K. seasons. The slayed that competition until the finale (and I think she even killed the Hey Sis, It’s Christmas performance in finale) and the crown should have rightfully belonged to her, only to lose it all at the very end thanks to a tragically poor final runway and lip sync performance. We NEED her back on a Vs. the World (or a regular UK All-Stars if they ever do that, which they absolutely should).
Only the only win I can’t agree with is all stars Rocky should have won I’ve rewatched it multiple times and the win still doesn’t feel justified I was rooting other queens but Rocky track record was the best honestly it feels like a slap in the face still
the most controversial one thus far has not been included in the two videos made. no winner announcement has been panned more than uk vs tw2. they did some serious course correction at the final episode that didn't even make sense. it was so bad that there was severe backlash over it.
Woah woah there was absolutely no controversy with Viviane wining she was in top 6 out of 7 episode she competed it while divina has 2 safe and 1 low and tbh her makeover win was controversial so was her high placement in advert Vivian was miles ahead of everyone that season
Also sister scarlet was not safe she was in top 6 out of 9 episode she competed in she was always runner up and Priyanka was safe in 5 out the 9 episode she competed in
"...with, at time, talented perfomer, Kween Kong..." hahahaha the way I cackled xD
Looking at the actual placements in Uk season 2 , Lawrence and bimini have almost the same track record. They were both safe or high the same amount, both were in the bottom 2 once and Bimini got one more win than Lawrence in the final competitive episode. The edit made it feel like Lawrence lost steam in the second half but that's because she just didn't win again after the girl group. She was in the bottom for snatch game but was never low the rest of the season. Honestly due to COVID, some of those later challenges were just quiet. The whole cast just seemed to do meh in some of the challenges with Bimini being the one doing well. Standup challenge felt like Lawrence was low but she was actually high with the other 3 being low. Same in the acting, she was high and Bimini won with the other two being bottom.
tbh Shannel brought the Cirque du Soleil, Plastique toast marshmallows on stage and Jorgeous has been throw to slide like a goddess, while Angie just served some lazy performance to her full autotuned song... even Nina did better than her. everyone did.
she shouldn't be in the finals in first place.
DRAG RACE MEXICO 2!!! Leexa Fox only won because Garccone,Luna and Electra got eliminated and they couldn’t crown Eva for controversies. (Her vs LMD)Wasn’t a satisfying edit for the season at all.
Electra not winning was the dumbest thing… seemed like a no brainer to crown her 🧐
@@kittens_shades3901 I KNOW RIGHT??
@@margaretyyanumber1fan for some reason the judges were being too harsh on her, it seemed forced.
@@kittens_shades3901 right like she was in the bottom for the sports sewing challenge when she had an actually nice outfit and Lexxa over there was half naked wearing ribbons!! And then when she got eliminated her luchadora look was the best imo
04:51 I was talking to my friend yesterday and we fully agreed that we don't care about Angeria winning, giving we both think she's talented, brilliant, amazing, showstopping, spectacular... We were disappointed that Roxxxy wasn't crowned. It was a huge boner killer. But I will never be out there spreading hate on a queen I think is more than deserving a crown (I just wish it wasn't this one 😮💨)
Blame Rupaul not the queens themselves
I gotta be honest, I can’t pull for Roxxy because I always think about how on AS2 she was in the bottom all the time and Alaska saved her over Katya because of that dumb old navy looking top.
Honestly no the reason why people were mad about anegrias win is because she got in the top 3 because of her talent show win but i have yet to meet anyone who says that angerias talent show was top 2 material.
So when it comes to someone winning a season thanks to a challenge win which was generally agreed upon that it was undeserved well it really takes away from her win. Cause without the talent show win she wouldnt have even been elegible for the top 3 win
girl well you ain't seeing a lot of people. a bunch of girls in the drag race family enjoyed angeria's talent. also a bunch of fans love angeria's talent so what the fuck are you talking about?
The fans were more upset because Angie didn't deserve her place in the final to begin with. Her talent show was one of the worst and the truth is that competition wise, especially Plastique or even Jorgeous deserved it more than Angie or Vanjie to be there. Then she (Angie) goes a lost the final lypsinc, we all saw that
@@AlonsoTipacti my thoughts exactly, but voicing that at the time would have labeled you as racist.
Angie most definitely deserved her place in the finale she did great all season the final 3 should’ve been Angie,Roxxy and Plastique but production got involved too much and then they had to course correct and get her there because you can not tell me Jorg deserved to be in the final 3 based off her performance all season
@@marcusmelancon3426 I do, Jorgeous killed it, but it was Plastique, for me.
Angie 100% deserved to be in the finale. She was by far the most consistent when it came to challenges. If it wasn’t for all the bonus badges given, Jorgeous would’ve never been even close to being top 3
Angeria had no bad weeks and literally was in the top 3 with her wins BEFORE the talent show win, which was admittedly a very produced fourth win. Jourgeous literally got 2 of her "badges" gifted. Come on.
Let's add that the real winner of GAS is Nehellenia!
For All Stars 9 I think the judging was just off.
I’m gonna throw in my opinion on judging because my top 3 is very different.
Ep 1 - Girl groups
Win - Angie
Top 2 - Jorgeous
Highs - Vangie + Plastique
Ep 2 - Ball
Win - Gottmik
Top 2 - Plastique
Highs - Roxxxy + Shannel
Ep 3 - Snatch game
Win - Angie
Top 2 - Nina
High - Gottmik + Shannel
(Why wasn’t the best in each group chosen originally like every other season? It’s not like everyone in group 1 flopped)
Ep 4 - Makeover
Win - Jorgeous
Top 2 - Plastique
High - Nina + Gottmik
Extra stars: Nina -> Roxxxy Angie -> Vangie
Ep 5 - Commercials
Win - Roxxxy
Top 2 - Plastique
High - Angie + Vangie
Ep 6 - Roast
Win - Angie
Top 2 - Jorgeous
High - Roxxxy, Plastique + Shannel
(This one was so tough to judge and I was so close to leaving plastique on the top)
Ep 7 - Acting
Win - Nina
Top 2 - Angie
High - Jorgeous + Shannel
Ep 8 - Design
Win - Roxxxy
Top 2 - Plastique
High - Nina + Gottmik
Ep 9 - Rusical
Win - Vangie
Win - Jorgeous
High - Everyone but Gottmik
Extra badges - Vangie + Jorgeous
Ep 10 - Lalaparuza
Win - Roxxxy
Top 2 - Shannel
High - Angie + Vangie
Ep 12 - Talent show (Worth 2 stars)
Win - Shannel
Win - Jorgeous
High - Plastique + Vangie
(Again so difficult between Jorgeous and plastique but that slide was unbelievable)
Also Ep 12 - Finale
Final badge count is:
Jorgeous - 7
Plastique - 4
Angie - 4
Roxxxy - 4
Nina - 4 (With double diamond)
Vangie - 3
Shannel - 3
Gottmik - 1
You are delusional, Angeria deserved a one victory, considering that the perfume challenge was from Plastique, the girl group that you put Angeria in was CLEARLY from Jorgeous and Plastique, just like the Talent Show she didn't deserve, the person who should have won was Jorgeous, Plastique or Shanell
@@leo-2512 Ya thats totally fair this was just my opinion. Plastique did destroy the girl group and honestly id probably give her the win over jorgeous for the roast as well. Im an Angeria stan so thanks for checking my bias.❤
Bimini won three more challenges after the girl groups challenge, not two. Drag Race UK premiered in 2019, not 2018. UK Season 2 was the season that was interrupted by COVID, not Season 3.
8:31 It's series 2, actually
Roxxxy is my winner of as9 ❤️
What made Venus a more deserving winner at the end is the same reason why Giselle Lullaby deserves her win. While Giselle is a Quebecois and a Francophone, Venus is a Two-Spirited half-Indigenous Metis individual. Two-spirit is the umbrella term used by Indigenous population in the North American region that identified themselves to have both as a male and a female. As we know, queens who are part of the Indigenous population is quite underrepresented in Drag Race, hence having this representation going for her made her win more deserving than it did initially.
This sounds incredibly tokenist - Giselle did well her season why reduce her to a “diversity hire”?
then why the editors and producers didn't make a compelling storyline for Venus? her winning didn't make sense
@@eraldmurati7697 I am basing it from what WildSpeer said about Gisele. I always think of her diversity as a factor but Gisele have the best track record on her season and that matters more
Wow that argument sucks. Brownie points prize for being a collectionable token? What happened to earning it for your performance?
Representation was fulfilled when they casted her. Anything beyond it's on them not on things they cannot control like their ethnicity.
@@eurodaraIs it not possible that the producers just didn't do a great job AND she just so happens to be Native? Why do you have to bring race into it?