Yes and no. If this was the first time they used this, Belle and Wise would be far more visually stunned about remaining alive. I suspect that what's happening is that their condition is actually a seal for their power, like Miyabi's scabbard for her swords voices. I doesn't fully restrict them, but it's too obstructing for them to be full blown agents right now, which demands they be proxies.
Look at Wise's hand before the explosion. It looks like he's charging up something to block it. So I think they already know how to use it. I don't think they can do it easily because they were immediately out of breath, reinforcing the idea that they're really not built for combat. Also, did they open up a fissure themselves to get to Bringer? Before this cutscene, everyone was celebrating at Port Elpis and at the end, we can see Eous sneakily entered a fissure and then we get this scene.
@@liamdowns9830 It could be a situation where they have to be in physical contact or just close to each other to use whatever it was that protected them.
@@liamdowns9830 It being something like miyabi's scabbard would imply something inherent to them which i don't personally see as the case. My personal theory is that the twins condition (Which seems to be a negative ether resistance/ allergy of some sort) qualified them for an experiment on some way to safely store etheric energy in their body for later use. And this experimental tech was added with the implants for the HDD. This feels like the case to me because we've already seen somebody with really low resistance and what happens to them in the hallow... the red fang leader who was still conscious and pleading for help while he was transforming, whereas the twins body seems to shut down when they absorb too much ether. (i believe they mention earlier that belle went into full cardiac arrest) mind you this is still too early and we still don't know much about how corruption works to be certain of anything, excited to learn more about the HDD, the twins condition, and ether corruption in general. hoyo absolutely cooked with zenless's story!
@PolymophicPluto I know, but there's a distinction between Silver's abysmally low ether aptitude and the sibling's mostly unexplained condition. If I'm right, my current theory is that whatever science magic the siblings use requires they gather etheric matter/energy within themselves and then expel it to do cool stuff, so the seal shutting them off in the event of ether buildup would prevent the use of power for the most part.
@@sirneko1278If Fairy granted them this power, she’d have boasted about it since before the Dead End Butcher. Furthermore, that would probably make this the first time they use this power, and they don't seem too surprised that they lived. They would be stunned beyond measure if this was their first use. They've done this before.
@@liamdowns9830 Something I should point out they may not be AWARE they did anything. We know they have ocular implants that connects to the brain. Our optical nerves are almost or are straight shots to our brain unlike most of our other nerves. And we see their eyes light up like when they use HDD. So its possible that yes they did use a power but their aware minds arent aware they used it but on some level they DO know they used it. Something to keep in mind Eyes are a big thing for Hoyo. In HI3 all herreschers have unique eye designs and a lot attention is paid to eyes in general. In Genshin eyes are also important as several species are able to be found based on their eye design. Honkai star rail hasnt focused on it too much but there is some characters were eyes are made important such as Kafka who specifically wears contacts that give her a more dead eye look. With ZZZ we do have eyes being important again. The final boss had eyes all over it then their was the way Miyabi expressed how we should make our feelings known. Lycon has an eye patch and our proxies have special eye implants. So I strongly suspect the Occular implants are the source of the power and we are seeing a protection program kicking in.
Seeing the glitching around their eyes make me think of something similar to Cyberpsychosis from Cyberpunk Maybe if they use this “power” too much it affects them, so they limit it to only do proxy work, only pushing past the limit when, like what was shown, their lives are endangered? Additional, separate idea: They can only use this “power up” when they are both together
My guess is way simpler. Super advanced bangboo prototypes. Would also explain their ability to connect to Euos, why they keep it hidden, and also their proficiency with fixing the extreme amount of malfunctioning bangboo
i think it makes sense for bringer to modify their eye things, maybe putting eter material there? idk, it might have smth to do with that etereo from hollow zero that controls another etereis, maybe they want that etereo to control phaeton
I feel like it's not that they are physically powerful but rather they have some form of special powers, maybe some kind of powers that they were born with that their teacher knew about and thus raised them
Every single instance where the Phaethon siblings appear weak is within a Hollow. The one time they actually displayed a glimpse of their ability was in a non-Hollow area. They also stated before that they cannot stay long in Hollows because of a... "special condition" they have.
@@ongkaizer5686 On one hand, fissures can lead both in and out of Hollows. So it may or may not be in a hollow, it's just a shortcut. On the other hand, the whole conversation barely even took 2 minutes, so maybe their low Ether corruption wasn't a problem yet.
@@ongkaizer5686We can see that Eous, Belle, and Wise created the Fissure themselves. There just so happens to be a Fissure where everyone is gathered that leads straight to Bringer so that they can question him?
That's because their ocular implant wasn't working in the hollow. They are normal humans but it is kinda clear their teacher experiment on them at some point
From all that we've seen and have been told about, it seems likely that Belle/Wise have been experimented on by the White Star Institute, just like they did with Asaba Harumasa. At least that's my takeaway so far. I am expecting a lot more from the MC's backstory than just being the students of the guilty.
I honestly think they have somewhat of the same powers of bringer when he turned to an ethereal, the only issue is that they are a controlled subservient keeping their body’s and highly limiting their abilities, it would make sense why they shouldn’t be in the hollow as they might be able to absorb massive amounts of either energy leading to the decay of their bodies yet not being mindless if they do transform. Hense in their ways of resisting the transformation it causes physical and mental strain on their bodies hense them being knocked out for half an hour with miyabi
@@jareddrake8656 Yeah, they have some resistance but nowhere near those who can explore hollows. They won't immediately transform but they definitely can't be a hollow raider or void hunter.
@@jareddrake8656 Twice that we know of and based on what Billy and Nicole says other times. it ends poorly each time. Which that in itself is odd they have bad biological reactions to it but that isnt how Ether corruption is suppose to work. You are suppose to corrupt into an etheral not have a heart attack or collapse. So something is for sure up with their bodies.
The scene after this video Belle ran to kick Bringer and got tried just doing so I think they actually wear. This nukeproof one might just be those safety functions.
I think it's just the filters they use on their eyes to be able to control Eus. Belle (the sister I chose, if you chose Wise, then Wise) mentioned something to Miyabi about her sword to check its internal system, and she mentioned that she had that ability in her eyes (I don't remember if she specifically mentioned her eyes, but Miyabi doesn't hand us her scabbard to check it manually, but just with our gaze we check and analyze the electrical system of the scabbard)
They simply might not be aware of how strong they could REALLY be. As far as we know, this might be the first proof of them having ANY real superhuman physicality they’ve witnessed for themselves.
Copying my comment from another video, I figured that this ability is an on and off type situation, they prob only didn’t use it there to help avoid suspicion from others since they are alone with each other in this moment. Or maybe they need to be in close proximity (heh get it) to activate it since the other sibling (which ever you didn’t pick) seems genuinely worried and concerned when something happens to you.
Well there's little we know about the proxies or what their teacher/parent did to help them in the future. But i guess around other people they have to play off the "I'm not cut out for heavy labor jobs.." but when they're alone they pretty much show that they aren't weak as they appear even to the audience.
@@BanishedSilentShadow3318 Or maybe them being proxies means that they aren't physically capable but have intelligence and techno wizardry to compensate for it.
They do both have cybernetics. But honestly wouldn’t be surprised if they ended up having to be proxies cus they happened to not actually have ether altitude to stay in long. Some shit you can’t control.
Now lets be real when it came mes to physical activity they dont ever want to show but when i saw them go through a portal to get to bringer i knew these siblings was faking hella hard
My guess is that they need to gather ether by using themselves as receptacles or something like that, then expelling the ether to manipulate it. The seal shutting thie bodies down after being exposed to ether for a few minutes would theoretically prevent them from gathering the energy intentionally, but since Hollows force ether into people, it becomes a hinderance.
It might also be the RP siblings are invincible when they're together. Because they apparently have an issue with being in Hollows too long that's unrelated to Ether endurance. It might be they are capable of being hurt when they're alone, and when they are together, they're indestructible.
@@xyancpo Their moveset is based around "hacking." They trap the enemy in visualized lines of code so that any available teammates can attack them, probably temporarily decrease Bangboo cool down so that the player can spam the Boo assist for roughly 15 seconds. I see them playing a support role than anything else.
5-star characters: needs to go to hospital for recovery after exposed to ether energy MC: magically recover from *partial corruption* after some cpr Pretty sure this is intentional they have Nicole told the MC to better see a doctor then our sibling were like…just rest.
i think this end is related to that vision belle had when meeting fairy, they often say their eyes are hurting whenever smth happens with them, but in that scene it seamed like their eyes were "activated" or maybe "modified" we might see they having some sort of problem with the connection or maybe even being possesed by that new etereo from hollow zero (just me going crazy now), so back to the topic, he didnt have enough power to make an attack, but maybe implant smth in their eyes
I hope this makes both MCs powerful in the future. Like all this time they’ve been given a power that has been sealed and just now in that explosion it activated. Maybe it activates when their lives are in true danger of being extinguished and given enough time they could because one of the strongest beings. Hey probably they are not completely human, they were born on the other side.
Haven't seen anybody else in the comments mention it, but the ring of glowing blue makes their eyes look like Fairy's eye icon. I feel like this has something to do with Fairy, and that Belle and Wise either didn't have or didn't know they had these powers, since they looked worried when Bringer tried to attack them too. Plus, it's implied that they're able to communicate with Eous and each other because of a neural link implant. (Basically - Belle/Wise links the implant to Eous, Eous goes into the Hollow, and the implant allows Belle/Wise to communicate with each other and with Fairy). During the quest, the implants and Eous shutting down were the reason Wise/Belle and Miyabi got cut off from the outside world. In several world quests we deal with the concept of linking mind spaces (Qingyi's story quest, for instance). It's not impossible that Fairy somehow got ahold of the neural implant and did something to Belle and Wise.
Your comment should go way up, I felt the same. The cyan glow on the irises seems distinctly Fairy's. I believe Fairy stored some of its electric-based power over time (while siblings were using their Bangboos) and hacked their bodies to release it for an emergency like this. That power being stored in them as the real reason why Fairy uses so much electricity.
@@NewNecro Seconded! I think ZZZ was pretty obviously introducing the concept of linking minds when Qingyi's character quest came out. We were able to access her mindspace. Granted, Qingyi is a robot, so her "brain" might be different than a human's. This still feels like a setup to imply that Fairy is doing something to Belle and Wise via those implants.
@@flacsomtodosclas2165 Yeah, because they were linking their mind to Eous. Their eyes glowing in the explosion means that their neural link is active, and it likely is Fairy who activated it (since Eous couldn't have done it). Belle and Wise also didn't have or didn't know about whatever powers they might have now, since they were consistently worried and careful before.
Just a theory, the siblings may be artificial intelligence, like Qingyi, but consider the background of the institute where they belongs, their bodies possibly are entirely made up by ether that had been stabilized, giving them a form can be distinguished as real human body. Creator, the villain of this series, thinking that ether energy can be a new resource a biochemical weapon, they had already work on that since ether was discovered, long before even the Hollow Zero incident, but why they were never got investigated? Probably had connections, deep within HAND n' NEPS, so deep they can cover it with some random false intel. All those Hollows could possibly be served as testing room serving those biochemical weapon since Hollow Zero.
Well, we don't know if Anby and 11 are artificial or just that well trained yet. And for all their power, I suspect Anby and 11 would fold like origami if Belle or Wise went full tilt.
@@liamdowns9830 Yes, but still they look almost the same except for their hair, they might be clones, which is even more likely since the number 11 in soldier 11's name suggests there has been 10 others like her (so 10 potential clones of ... Whatever they cloned first, but idk if it's anby or not cuz I can't remember if she originally had a name or it came from Nicole, like her nickname)
I'm telling you, SINCE DAY 1 OF PLAYING THIS GAME, I'VE HEAD CANNONED THAT WISE HAS THE SLEEPIEST OF SLEEPER BUILDS KNOWN TO MAN, ISTG HE'S SECRETLY HIDING HIS DENSE MUSCLES, HE'S GONNA HAVE FAIRY INTEGRATE INTO HIS BEING AND HE WILL BE ABLE TO HACK AND SELF DESTRUCT ANY TECHNOLOGY FAIRY CAN ACCESS 😔🤚🏼
I mean in the Fairy Awakening Cutscene, you can see Wise and Belle (one you picked will be on the right side) and behind one is a faint silhouette of SOMETHING that flickers in and out of the image for the 1.2 seconds it is there while the other sibling's eyes glow reactively during that time, just before Zero or whichever Hollow they were in front of expanded...
I like how no one is questioning the fission, because I'm sure they are outside the hollow, and those things can only appear inside hollowssobut them surviving the attack also says alot. So let's start getting every single info we have on hollow related stuff, and ethereals together, to solve the mystery.
I was going to comment on this too. It definitely looks like they just used their own fissure or something. As the credits end with all of the agents interacting, we see Eous walking into a fissure alone, then we are in front of Bringer, and all 3 of them come through, the sky in the background looks like they aren't in a hollow, and I can't remember if Bringer was in a hollow before "refining". Definitely a ton of new questions being asked.
@@Hoodagames I'm gonna have to go back and watch it now. The more I think about it the more confused about certain details. Why wasn't bringer where Miyabi cut him down? Also I just realized that at the end credits, it's likely that Eous was entering that portal to go pick up Belle/Wise to catch a fissure to Bringer. That makes a lot of sense.
nah, they aren't faking. there 2 possibilities to explain. 1. they are tank type, strong defense but absolutely slow or weak at mobility (especially Belle carrying that extra ammo) 2. they aren't take the blast head on, but phasing trough it (like flash)
I don’t know if it’s a stylistic choice to have their glitches be Outside of their eye (because if their secret is more centered around only their ocular implants, the glitches should’ve been inside the eyeball similar to when Eous’s screen changes-but no, even their skin near the eyes slightly glitch as well), but if it is intentional, then they’re definitely keeping something more a secret.
And when Belle finally goes full tilt, we will watch her hair slowly turn crimson as she suddenly looks like an old friend, and a familiar, heart wrenching tune suddenly jumps to the game and plays... Never let you go... Hoyoverse fans love Himeko so much, from HI3rd to HSR, so turning her into the MC would blow everyone away. A pipe dream, I know, but one can hope.
We actually have seen the eyes multiple times in the past. We know since this patch they are occular implants, specifically. What I just realized during that cutscene, the symbol whenever Fairy soeaks to us, is the same thing (blue circle around the iris).
I have a feeling that when they are together, they are immune to any kind of etherial damage. this is probably why they survive what ever happen back decades ago.
I think they probably came prepared since they went to the hollow alone this time knowing what they could find. Probably they are indeed normal humans but they are much like an example of "batman like" character. If they have preparation time, they can do much more things than without preparation time
My theory is that they are only able to tank the explosion because Ether is involved Both previous time, it was physical/Kinetic or spiritual, none of them are about Ether, just recoil So yeah, they have High Ether defense stat, other defense stat? Low/dumped
Except for the fact that their heart stops if they are in a hollow for too long. They don't seem to have good ether aptitude, but I thought it might have had to do with it being an ether explosion, too. So many questions.
There’s a difference between Physical Exertion and having Extreme Ether Resistance. Because the ‘explosion’ was the result of Ether, not conventional things. And in Hoyo’s universes, metaphysical shenanigans are significant. Their extreme Ether compatability is likely the same reason (or at least a major fact why) they can access Eous remotely even when he is in a Hollow. (Because we know it’s possible to pilot a Bangboo remotely; it’s just connecting while in a hollow that is unique to Phaethon)
I honestly liked the idea of the MCs being powerless and having low either aptitude. It made them different than other MCs that are OP and “the chosen one.” I don’t necessarily think these are new powers if y’all remember they have implants so they can use their Bangboo. But honestly I won’t be upset if they do do a reveal of some sort of power or ability seeing as Wise at the very least looks similar to the first ever Proxy. So maybe they are related to him and have some sort of power. I’m interested to see where they take it.
idk about pretending, I think its more of an 'awakened' thing that will be the main story for the next arc. I think its quite obvious they are as surprised as bringer when they are alive coming out of that smoke. They are holding each other and looking at the floor out of breath and confused., as if whatever happened, they did not do, but their bodies or another entity did. (my bet is their computer did it, i forgot her name)
I think I see a pattern here. The Agents usually have a certain part of them glow whenever you equip their W-Engine. Maybe the Proxy’s have unlocked a new ability called “Plot-Armor”?
They aren't summoned so much as they are able to calculate exactly were rifts like these go so they figured out where bringer went and simply located a rift that could take them directly two him.
@@flainn6464they led people towards portal if was so convenient the cops wouldn't have needed to jump from the freaking crane. Also it was explained that shifts happens all around the hollow because space inside it works differently.
“You actually managed to make us use 1% of our power…”
Shaggy situation type thing 😂
@@grimm29x Ultra shaggy 🔥🔥🔥🔥
Bringer: But how? Wise/Belle: Nanomachines son.
"... A-Armstrong? Is that you?"
Probably son and daughter of senator Armstrong…
@@vKERliteral armstrong. They're gonna be secretly like those hand things but perfected form
RULES OF NATURE (can't remember if the song was from the same game 😅)
“They harden in response of physical trauma”
Nah they just chose mage class instead of warrior like the rest of Hoyo MCs
umm the Trailblazers? or maybe i don't get what you mean
(o my god i cannot read i am so sorry)
@@Janedoemama He means the proxy siblings doesn't have a stick to bonk people with, unlike the other Hoyo's MCs
nah they use summoner class if we are counting the bangboos
If all Hoyo MC are in DnD I wonder what their class be?
@@AbyssalDarking970
Kiana would be a fighter
Aether/Lumine would be Sorcerer
Trailblazer would be Multi class
I think that power first activated right there and then .... given the situation both would have died otherwise
Yes and no. If this was the first time they used this, Belle and Wise would be far more visually stunned about remaining alive. I suspect that what's happening is that their condition is actually a seal for their power, like Miyabi's scabbard for her swords voices. I doesn't fully restrict them, but it's too obstructing for them to be full blown agents right now, which demands they be proxies.
Look at Wise's hand before the explosion. It looks like he's charging up something to block it. So I think they already know how to use it.
I don't think they can do it easily because they were immediately out of breath, reinforcing the idea that they're really not built for combat.
Also, did they open up a fissure themselves to get to Bringer? Before this cutscene, everyone was celebrating at Port Elpis and at the end, we can see Eous sneakily entered a fissure and then we get this scene.
@@liamdowns9830 It could be a situation where they have to be in physical contact or just close to each other to use whatever it was that protected them.
@@liamdowns9830 It being something like miyabi's scabbard would imply something inherent to them which i don't personally see as the case.
My personal theory is that the twins condition (Which seems to be a negative ether resistance/ allergy of some sort) qualified them for an experiment on some way to safely store etheric energy in their body for later use. And this experimental tech was added with the implants for the HDD.
This feels like the case to me because we've already seen somebody with really low resistance and what happens to them in the hallow... the red fang leader who was still conscious and pleading for help while he was transforming, whereas the twins body seems to shut down when they absorb too much ether. (i believe they mention earlier that belle went into full cardiac arrest)
mind you this is still too early and we still don't know much about how corruption works to be certain of anything, excited to learn more about the HDD, the twins condition, and ether corruption in general.
hoyo absolutely cooked with zenless's story!
@PolymophicPluto I know, but there's a distinction between Silver's abysmally low ether aptitude and the sibling's mostly unexplained condition. If I'm right, my current theory is that whatever science magic the siblings use requires they gather etheric matter/energy within themselves and then expel it to do cool stuff, so the seal shutting them off in the event of ether buildup would prevent the use of power for the most part.
They probably do have hidden powers because ain't no way the mcs are powerless
There is no way hoyoverse's mc was just an odinary human😂😂
My theory is they were normal...until they meet fairy that is. That explained why they seem like they dont know they have power
@@sirneko1278If Fairy granted them this power, she’d have boasted about it since before the Dead End Butcher. Furthermore, that would probably make this the first time they use this power, and they don't seem too surprised that they lived. They would be stunned beyond measure if this was their first use. They've done this before.
@@sirneko1278it’s not fairy they have had these glowing eyes even before her arrival
@@liamdowns9830 Something I should point out they may not be AWARE they did anything. We know they have ocular implants that connects to the brain. Our optical nerves are almost or are straight shots to our brain unlike most of our other nerves. And we see their eyes light up like when they use HDD.
So its possible that yes they did use a power but their aware minds arent aware they used it but on some level they DO know they used it.
Something to keep in mind Eyes are a big thing for Hoyo. In HI3 all herreschers have unique eye designs and a lot attention is paid to eyes in general. In Genshin eyes are also important as several species are able to be found based on their eye design. Honkai star rail hasnt focused on it too much but there is some characters were eyes are made important such as Kafka who specifically wears contacts that give her a more dead eye look.
With ZZZ we do have eyes being important again. The final boss had eyes all over it then their was the way Miyabi expressed how we should make our feelings known. Lycon has an eye patch and our proxies have special eye implants.
So I strongly suspect the Occular implants are the source of the power and we are seeing a protection program kicking in.
Seeing the glitching around their eyes make me think of something similar to Cyberpsychosis from Cyberpunk
Maybe if they use this “power” too much it affects them, so they limit it to only do proxy work, only pushing past the limit when, like what was shown, their lives are endangered?
Additional, separate idea: They can only use this “power up” when they are both together
I wanted to say that the glitch effect was similar to hollow power but I genuinely have no evidence
My guess is way simpler.
Super advanced bangboo prototypes. Would also explain their ability to connect to Euos, why they keep it hidden, and also their proficiency with fixing the extreme amount of malfunctioning bangboo
@@Aryasvitkonalike our super stun cop?
@_jamm. That could explain when wise or belle (whoever is the MC) complete a big amount of Tasks they start to get strong headache or they get tired
i think it makes sense for bringer to modify their eye things, maybe putting eter material there? idk, it might have smth to do with that etereo from hollow zero that controls another etereis, maybe they want that etereo to control phaeton
I feel like it's not that they are physically powerful but rather they have some form of special powers, maybe some kind of powers that they were born with that their teacher knew about and thus raised them
Not born with, but implanted. In another quest they clearly said they have eye implants
They might be a homunculus, as they never mention their parents whereabout but always talking about their "teacher"
@@flainn6464 but homunculus are pure evil beings from what i recall hearing about them
They are more likely enhanced humans like anby and soldier 11
Also convenient how they always find portals when they need one. Almost like they are the one creating them.
My personal guess is that it's a power that can only activate when the two of them are together.
This is actually a really good theory, because it perfectly explains the discrepancies, at least for now
*"Hoyo knew we'd be too powerful if we team up."*
Power of Bros. Moves for you.
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Sibling power is real
(yes I have siblings)
they can survive corruption, explosion, and foxfire but can't even run away
if you can survive all that, running away isn't that much an issue anymore^^
why run away when you can adapt
If immune with everything, why running from it?
they probably can still feel pain. so maybe it just hurts a lot to be hit by an ethereal
Stand in the fire, DPS higher.
Every single instance where the Phaethon siblings appear weak is within a Hollow. The one time they actually displayed a glimpse of their ability was in a non-Hollow area. They also stated before that they cannot stay long in Hollows because of a... "special condition" they have.
Nah Bringer cutscene is happen inside the hollow, sibling come to him via fissure is the proof about it
@@ongkaizer5686
On one hand, fissures can lead both in and out of Hollows. So it may or may not be in a hollow, it's just a shortcut.
On the other hand, the whole conversation barely even took 2 minutes, so maybe their low Ether corruption wasn't a problem yet.
@@ongkaizer5686 judging by the surroundings, it looks like it was on the port just outside the Hollow, not the Hollow itself.
@@ongkaizer5686We can see that Eous, Belle, and Wise created the Fissure themselves. There just so happens to be a Fissure where everyone is gathered that leads straight to Bringer so that they can question him?
It was definitely inside a Hollow yall, they litterallmy entered through a breach at the start
Well. You do almost die in that one ether hollow with miyabi. Like you literally die and they had to resuscitate you
That's because their ocular implant wasn't working in the hollow. They are normal humans but it is kinda clear their teacher experiment on them at some point
From all that we've seen and have been told about, it seems likely that Belle/Wise have been experimented on by the White Star Institute, just like they did with Asaba Harumasa. At least that's my takeaway so far.
I am expecting a lot more from the MC's backstory than just being the students of the guilty.
0:55 Belle looks absolutely traumatised
To be fair they say they're not really built for handling combat etc on the fly or surprises for combat. They didn't say they were unable to fight.
I honestly think they have somewhat of the same powers of bringer when he turned to an ethereal, the only issue is that they are a controlled subservient keeping their body’s and highly limiting their abilities, it would make sense why they shouldn’t be in the hollow as they might be able to absorb massive amounts of either energy leading to the decay of their bodies yet not being mindless if they do transform. Hense in their ways of resisting the transformation it causes physical and mental strain on their bodies hense them being knocked out for half an hour with miyabi
Weren't one of the siblings trapped in a hollow at one point?
@@jareddrake8656 Yeah, they have some resistance but nowhere near those who can explore hollows. They won't immediately transform but they definitely can't be a hollow raider or void hunter.
@@jareddrake8656 Twice that we know of and based on what Billy and Nicole says other times. it ends poorly each time.
Which that in itself is odd they have bad biological reactions to it but that isnt how Ether corruption is suppose to work. You are suppose to corrupt into an etheral not have a heart attack or collapse.
So something is for sure up with their bodies.
The scene after this video Belle ran to kick Bringer and got tried just doing so I think they actually wear. This nukeproof one might just be those safety functions.
I think it's just the filters they use on their eyes to be able to control Eus. Belle (the sister I chose, if you chose Wise, then Wise) mentioned something to Miyabi about her sword to check its internal system, and she mentioned that she had that ability in her eyes (I don't remember if she specifically mentioned her eyes, but Miyabi doesn't hand us her scabbard to check it manually, but just with our gaze we check and analyze the electrical system of the scabbard)
god i love wise and belle.... when they glare like that in sync??? amazing sibling pair
They simply might not be aware of how strong they could REALLY be.
As far as we know, this might be the first proof of them having ANY real superhuman physicality they’ve witnessed for themselves.
Copying my comment from another video, I figured that this ability is an on and off type situation, they prob only didn’t use it there to help avoid suspicion from others since they are alone with each other in this moment. Or maybe they need to be in close proximity (heh get it) to activate it since the other sibling (which ever you didn’t pick) seems genuinely worried and concerned when something happens to you.
Well there's little we know about the proxies or what their teacher/parent did to help them in the future.
But i guess around other people they have to play off the "I'm not cut out for heavy labor jobs.." but when they're alone they pretty much show that they aren't weak as they appear even to the audience.
@@BanishedSilentShadow3318 Or maybe them being proxies means that they aren't physically capable but have intelligence and techno wizardry to compensate for it.
They do both have cybernetics.
But honestly wouldn’t be surprised if they ended up having to be proxies cus they happened to not actually have ether altitude to stay in long. Some shit you can’t control.
Now lets be real when it came mes to physical activity they dont ever want to show but when i saw them go through a portal to get to bringer i knew these siblings was faking hella hard
lore aside, can we talk about the music when they're standing there after the explosion? that was lowkey spooky
Prephas their original powers are sealed away just like the siblings in Genshin are
Yeah, I suspect the conditions Billy mentioned are the seals.
My guess is that they need to gather ether by using themselves as receptacles or something like that, then expelling the ether to manipulate it. The seal shutting thie bodies down after being exposed to ether for a few minutes would theoretically prevent them from gathering the energy intentionally, but since Hollows force ether into people, it becomes a hinderance.
@@liamdowns9830 That's a valid guess
God i love when story just being uncomplete and gave us new question
It might also be the RP siblings are invincible when they're together. Because they apparently have an issue with being in Hollows too long that's unrelated to Ether endurance. It might be they are capable of being hurt when they're alone, and when they are together, they're indestructible.
Imagine them as playable character in combat
Al estilo de aether y lumine y también a stelle y caelus
@@xyancpo Their moveset is based around "hacking." They trap the enemy in visualized lines of code so that any available teammates can attack them, probably temporarily decrease Bangboo cool down so that the player can spam the Boo assist for roughly 15 seconds. I see them playing a support role than anything else.
That means they were s ranks all along!! 😮
They're just like Superman I guess. They're invincibke, but have a weakness, their weakness is Hollow
They can take a hit but still have hit hurt like hell.
5-star characters: needs to go to hospital for recovery after exposed to ether energy
MC: magically recover from *partial corruption* after some cpr
Pretty sure this is intentional they have Nicole told the MC to better see a doctor then our sibling were like…just rest.
They are very motivated that’s why
Plot twists they’re actually just highly organic androids
Its a circumstance thing because if that is seen by others then it might as well be dead for them
They might be robots who were built by their teacher who knows, since there was a glitching effect at the explosion as well
I like to believe that consciously inhibiting their own powers makes them come off as clumsy and sometimes even inept, like Clark Kent.
well i mean hey the best offense is a great defense
at times
"oh? We didn't even used our full power 😈" ahh eyes
That ominous sound when they showed their glitch blue eyes I shivered real hard 🥶
man that fucking music when they show the eye glowing is just menacingly epic👌👌
Detroit: Are they human?
What i noticed is that between all the cutscenes that usually happens when theyre together
i think this end is related to that vision belle had when meeting fairy, they often say their eyes are hurting whenever smth happens with them, but in that scene it seamed like their eyes were "activated" or maybe "modified" we might see they having some sort of problem with the connection or maybe even being possesed by that new etereo from hollow zero (just me going crazy now), so back to the topic, he didnt have enough power to make an attack, but maybe implant smth in their eyes
But you could argue how the hell they could withstand such loony toons trash downs right
literally Hoyoverse Logo 😂
The student of professor arche
I hope this makes both MCs powerful in the future. Like all this time they’ve been given a power that has been sealed and just now in that explosion it activated. Maybe it activates when their lives are in true danger of being extinguished and given enough time they could because one of the strongest beings. Hey probably they are not completely human, they were born on the other side.
Haven't seen anybody else in the comments mention it, but the ring of glowing blue makes their eyes look like Fairy's eye icon. I feel like this has something to do with Fairy, and that Belle and Wise either didn't have or didn't know they had these powers, since they looked worried when Bringer tried to attack them too.
Plus, it's implied that they're able to communicate with Eous and each other because of a neural link implant. (Basically - Belle/Wise links the implant to Eous, Eous goes into the Hollow, and the implant allows Belle/Wise to communicate with each other and with Fairy). During the quest, the implants and Eous shutting down were the reason Wise/Belle and Miyabi got cut off from the outside world. In several world quests we deal with the concept of linking mind spaces (Qingyi's story quest, for instance). It's not impossible that Fairy somehow got ahold of the neural implant and did something to Belle and Wise.
Your comment should go way up, I felt the same.
The cyan glow on the irises seems distinctly Fairy's.
I believe Fairy stored some of its electric-based power over time (while siblings were using their Bangboos) and hacked their bodies to release it for an emergency like this.
That power being stored in them as the real reason why Fairy uses so much electricity.
@@NewNecro Seconded! I think ZZZ was pretty obviously introducing the concept of linking minds when Qingyi's character quest came out. We were able to access her mindspace. Granted, Qingyi is a robot, so her "brain" might be different than a human's. This still feels like a setup to imply that Fairy is doing something to Belle and Wise via those implants.
Yeah but their eyes glowing were shown before fairy appeared when they first connected to the bang bu.
@@flacsomtodosclas2165 Yeah, because they were linking their mind to Eous. Their eyes glowing in the explosion means that their neural link is active, and it likely is Fairy who activated it (since Eous couldn't have done it). Belle and Wise also didn't have or didn't know about whatever powers they might have now, since they were consistently worried and careful before.
Maybe their teacher forgot to bring that one enhanced physics pill out of all the immortal enhancement pills
Idk why but that right there was the new prowler sound
The siblings look so menacing in that smoke bro
Imagine one day the MC shows their true power and becoming a playable agent
I think it should be noted, it was when they are together they are able to do that
Just a theory, the siblings may be artificial intelligence, like Qingyi, but consider the background of the institute where they belongs, their bodies possibly are entirely made up by ether that had been stabilized, giving them a form can be distinguished as real human body.
Creator, the villain of this series, thinking that ether energy can be a new resource a biochemical weapon, they had already work on that since ether was discovered, long before even the Hollow Zero incident, but why they were never got investigated? Probably had connections, deep within HAND n' NEPS, so deep they can cover it with some random false intel. All those Hollows could possibly be served as testing room serving those biochemical weapon since Hollow Zero.
Maybe they can open fissures and opened one at the last second to redirect/absorb the blast
they not a robot or android.. they can grow up just like human.. i think they may an experimental human just like anby and soldier 11..
Well, we don't know if Anby and 11 are artificial or just that well trained yet. And for all their power, I suspect Anby and 11 would fold like origami if Belle or Wise went full tilt.
@@liamdowns9830 Yes, but still they look almost the same except for their hair, they might be clones, which is even more likely since the number 11 in soldier 11's name suggests there has been 10 others like her (so 10 potential clones of ... Whatever they cloned first, but idk if it's anby or not cuz I can't remember if she originally had a name or it came from Nicole, like her nickname)
I'm telling you, SINCE DAY 1 OF PLAYING THIS GAME, I'VE HEAD CANNONED THAT WISE HAS THE SLEEPIEST OF SLEEPER BUILDS KNOWN TO MAN, ISTG HE'S SECRETLY HIDING HIS DENSE MUSCLES, HE'S GONNA HAVE FAIRY INTEGRATE INTO HIS BEING AND HE WILL BE ABLE TO HACK AND SELF DESTRUCT ANY TECHNOLOGY FAIRY CAN ACCESS 😔🤚🏼
Gojo: ah yes, my secret six eye relatives
that was exactly what I was thinking when seeing that scene. Glad that I'm not the only one !
I mean in the Fairy Awakening Cutscene, you can see Wise and Belle (one you picked will be on the right side) and behind one is a faint silhouette of SOMETHING that flickers in and out of the image for the 1.2 seconds it is there while the other sibling's eyes glow reactively during that time, just before Zero or whichever Hollow they were in front of expanded...
The siblings just need exercise and they will be unstoppable
I like how no one is questioning the fission, because I'm sure they are outside the hollow, and those things can only appear inside hollowssobut them surviving the attack also says alot. So let's start getting every single info we have on hollow related stuff, and ethereals together, to solve the mystery.
I was going to comment on this too. It definitely looks like they just used their own fissure or something. As the credits end with all of the agents interacting, we see Eous walking into a fissure alone, then we are in front of Bringer, and all 3 of them come through, the sky in the background looks like they aren't in a hollow, and I can't remember if Bringer was in a hollow before "refining".
Definitely a ton of new questions being asked.
@@BismuthKaiju bringer turned into that in a hollow, but if he is like the sacrifice, I don't think it matters if he leaves a hollow.
@@Hoodagames I'm gonna have to go back and watch it now. The more I think about it the more confused about certain details. Why wasn't bringer where Miyabi cut him down?
Also I just realized that at the end credits, it's likely that Eous was entering that portal to go pick up Belle/Wise to catch a fissure to Bringer. That makes a lot of sense.
I swear Fairy did some sketchy shit when they went to asleep.
Makes sense. A real human would be fucked up from a fall like that unless they got lucky.
Probably they can only use the power when they are together.
Because there's nothing stronger than family.
They're secretly a modified super bangboo
nah, they aren't faking.
there 2 possibilities to explain.
1. they are tank type, strong defense but absolutely slow or weak at mobility (especially Belle carrying that extra ammo)
2. they aren't take the blast head on, but phasing trough it (like flash)
I think that Fairy somehow protected them at the end there.
I don’t know if it’s a stylistic choice to have their glitches be Outside of their eye (because if their secret is more centered around only their ocular implants, the glitches should’ve been inside the eyeball similar to when Eous’s screen changes-but no, even their skin near the eyes slightly glitch as well), but if it is intentional, then they’re definitely keeping something more a secret.
Ok but Wise and Belle's eyes literally gave me chills 😮
The children of Lady Sunbringer XD.. JK
They posed like the two sisters from JJK who survived Jogo's fire
Augmented cyberware inplant baby😂
their master who make the bamboo , maybe they 2 are humanize bamboo
Yes, of course.
The "hidden untapped power" gimmick.
As old as anime itself.
And when Belle finally goes full tilt, we will watch her hair slowly turn crimson as she suddenly looks like an old friend, and a familiar, heart wrenching tune suddenly jumps to the game and plays...
Never let you go...
Hoyoverse fans love Himeko so much, from HI3rd to HSR, so turning her into the MC would blow everyone away. A pipe dream, I know, but one can hope.
Boss music starts playing
What a funny coincidence, i got an ad of zzz😃
I just assumed it was the eye implants messing up
I think siblings have to be together to use that power.
We actually have seen the eyes multiple times in the past. We know since this patch they are occular implants, specifically.
What I just realized during that cutscene, the symbol whenever Fairy soeaks to us, is the same thing (blue circle around the iris).
I think in their case whatever mods they have make them strong outside the hollow but weak inside them
I have a feeling that when they are together, they are immune to any kind of etherial damage.
this is probably why they survive what ever happen back decades ago.
plot twist: Caesar activated her skill.
"I'm really not built for this activity"
🤨
The fact that were HIT at all by the etherial that also hit Billy (a robot) is already a sign that they're not what they seem.
what
@@HRavenfolksHes talking about the fact that they were hit by the ethereal that also hit Billy, and they survived with barely any injuries.
Exactly, surviving such an attack as "humans" is next to impossible.
I think they probably came prepared since they went to the hollow alone this time knowing what they could find. Probably they are indeed normal humans but they are much like an example of "batman like" character. If they have preparation time, they can do much more things than without preparation time
Realistically, this definitely has something to do with their teacher who’s essentially Voldemort
My theory is that they are only able to tank the explosion because Ether is involved
Both previous time, it was physical/Kinetic or spiritual, none of them are about Ether, just recoil
So yeah, they have High Ether defense stat, other defense stat? Low/dumped
Except for the fact that their heart stops if they are in a hollow for too long. They don't seem to have good ether aptitude, but I thought it might have had to do with it being an ether explosion, too. So many questions.
There’s a difference between Physical Exertion and having Extreme Ether Resistance.
Because the ‘explosion’ was the result of Ether, not conventional things. And in Hoyo’s universes, metaphysical shenanigans are significant.
Their extreme Ether compatability is likely the same reason (or at least a major fact why) they can access Eous remotely even when he is in a Hollow. (Because we know it’s possible to pilot a Bangboo remotely; it’s just connecting while in a hollow that is unique to Phaethon)
Theyre cyberpunks basically. After this Wise mentioned their Occular implants. It's possible they have more.
I honestly liked the idea of the MCs being powerless and having low either aptitude. It made them different than other MCs that are OP and “the chosen one.” I don’t necessarily think these are new powers if y’all remember they have implants so they can use their Bangboo. But honestly I won’t be upset if they do do a reveal of some sort of power or ability seeing as Wise at the very least looks similar to the first ever Proxy. So maybe they are related to him and have some sort of power. I’m interested to see where they take it.
i dont think they are pretending rather they dont know they have powers at all and that explosion triggered something
Yooo, we got a glimpse of the Proxies's Mystic Eyes of Death Perception
PEAK
I have this theory that whatever ability they demonstrated during Bringer's cutscene is that they can only activate it together.
idk about pretending, I think its more of an 'awakened' thing that will be the main story for the next arc. I think its quite obvious they are as surprised as bringer when they are alive coming out of that smoke. They are holding each other and looking at the floor out of breath and confused., as if whatever happened, they did not do, but their bodies or another entity did. (my bet is their computer did it, i forgot her name)
I think I see a pattern here. The Agents usually have a certain part of them glow whenever you equip their W-Engine. Maybe the Proxy’s have unlocked a new ability called “Plot-Armor”?
The Proxies are Herrschers!?
New Eridu's first ever Herrscher equivalents... can't rule it out.
Wait a minute, they could summon the portal all along?
So all those weird portal placement are actually not a coincident?
They can't summone it. They know when a portal will appear.
@kyokosakura3192 That quite strange to have a random portal near your current place that directly linked to the front of Bringer's hand
They aren't summoned so much as they are able to calculate exactly were rifts like these go so they figured out where bringer went and simply located a rift that could take them directly two him.
@@PaulonTheBrave I still believe they actually can spawn the portals, there are already too many times a portal spawn has saved people around them.
@@flainn6464they led people towards portal if was so convenient the cops wouldn't have needed to jump from the freaking crane. Also it was explained that shifts happens all around the hollow because space inside it works differently.
could be that because it was bringer their "power" worked.
maybe their teacher knew more about this and guessed they would get caught up in it.
maybe it's a twin thing, like both have to be near to have full power
I’m pretty sure they have to team up for it but I could be wrong