The Fed should definitely cut after 'game-changing' June CPI data, says Wharton's Jeremy Siegel

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  • Jeremy Siegel, professor emeritus of finance at University of Pennsylvania’s Wharton School of Business and Wisdom Tree chief economist, joins 'Squawk Box' to discuss the latest market trends, state of the economy, what to make of the key inflation data this week, impact on the Fed's rate path outlook, and more. For access to live and exclusive video from CNBC subscribe to CNBC PRO: cnb.cx/42d859g
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  • @PLASTICPIPE
    @PLASTICPIPE 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +18

    Jeremy has been saying cut rates now for over a year. if they would have cut rates even six months ago, we would be in BIG trouble right now.

    • @eh7599
      @eh7599 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      yeah, guy is a whiner

    • @eugenefirebird8938
      @eugenefirebird8938 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Seigal is a parasite on the markets. He loves his money for doing nothing. He wants more of that good old free asset price inflation. He lives for it.

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  • @glixylpoussin
    @glixylpoussin 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +16

    cutting rates with the markets at an all time high.. not sure of a precedent for this

    • @madarchod312
      @madarchod312 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      sounds like you missed out on some gains.

    • @illegalsmirf
      @illegalsmirf 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      Interest rates high? Stonks go up. Interest rates low? Stonks go up. Stonks only go up.

    • @brahmmauer7437
      @brahmmauer7437 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      Stock market is not the economy.

    • @Josh-hz8vz
      @Josh-hz8vz 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      The market is at all times highs, apart from AI hype, because it is anticipating rate cuts. If rates do not get cut the market would go down. Regardless the mistake is taking the stock market, whether up or down, as equivalent to the real world economy when it is not. They are often moving in opposite directions.

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    @hughesdonna 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +15

    The market is echoing the 2015-16 scenario, poised to reach new heights, but may experience a sideways trend until fed signals rate cut. I recently sold 25% of my portfolio, comprising struggling stocks recommended by certain financial TH-camrs, which unfortunately took a significant hit.

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  • @GeorgeSchneider8889
    @GeorgeSchneider8889 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +19

    You cut interest rates because you are facing a recession. We are nowhere close to a recession. Every time we faced economic downturn or recession, the velocity of M2 money stock was declining. How on earth are we going to cut interest rates while that velocity is going up? Every time it was done in the 70s, inflation came back.

    • @ryann8348
      @ryann8348 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      We're trying to not create an unnecessary recession by cutting now

    • @Josh-hz8vz
      @Josh-hz8vz 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      “Nowhere close to a recession” unemployment rising half a percent has preceded almost every recession in the last century

    • @danielhutchinson6604
      @danielhutchinson6604 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      If they were manipulating the numbers to maintain an image of Prosperity until Trump is allowed to slip Back into the White House,
      could they be attempting to dump a Recession in His Administration's lap?
      After Hoover the GOP was unable to get a President into Office until Ike.
      He was forced to deal with LBJ and Sam Rayburn,
      who were real astute Congressional Leaders.

    • @JimBob-wi3rq
      @JimBob-wi3rq 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      they have to cut rates to refinance the debt. Else they will keep paying 1T in interest rates

    • @GeorgeSchneider8889
      @GeorgeSchneider8889 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Josh-hz8vz We may face stagflation but we are not going to have a recession.

  • @Leka911
    @Leka911 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

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  • @HelloWorld-hb7yt
    @HelloWorld-hb7yt 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

    cut rate? do we want double stock market bubble?

  • @FationSyla
    @FationSyla 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Sooner or later bad news has to mean bad news... Market can't keep going up based on higher unemployment. At some point this will start bringing the market down and fed will have to start lowering rates. To me it feels like we're right around that time. Stock crashed yesterday after this great CPI print. Now was unemployment inches higher stock market will come pull back.
    Remember the first rate cut would signal the fed is easing but by the time that rate cut works itself into the economy... We might go into a recession.
    I had two people in front of me at the supermarket and they used 4 separate credit cards to pay the bills because the cards kept declining. The lower class is feeling it.. People say that we're not in a recession because the middle/upper class was able to save during covid... Those savings are running out now.

  • @KungPowEnterFist
    @KungPowEnterFist 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    No, the Fed should not cut. The only thing June's reading tells us is that we are back to the 2023 low. We bounced from there last time and here we are how many months later. One modestly high reading is not evidence.

  • @ctzoomie
    @ctzoomie 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    There is NO reason to cut rates. Employment remains VERY favorable and Y/Y inflation remains above the Fed’s target.

  • @user-oj1id5mp7w
    @user-oj1id5mp7w 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    - .1% is game changing? that is less than the margin of error.

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    @JongGoh 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

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  • @jocko4598
    @jocko4598 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Drop the interest rate. Load on debt payments go way down. Do it, do it!

  • @bluesky2145
    @bluesky2145 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    It's just stupid to cut rates when the stock market is on fire and unemployment is low. It's just stupid stupid stupid

    • @robertjones2282
      @robertjones2282 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Why would they want hyperinflation ?

    • @bluesky2145
      @bluesky2145 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@robertjones2282 Inflation is low again with CURRENT RATES

  • @leopard5810
    @leopard5810 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Jeremy must have a lot of stocks still being hurt by the interest rate hiking.

  • @jackjohnson9449
    @jackjohnson9449 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    The economy is slowing because inflation is too high. Rate cuts will make inflation worse.

  • @stevenhake7500
    @stevenhake7500 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I actually agree, and this is the first time since covid. Housing and all prices being down are the two things you need. They both were.

  • @channelsold3236
    @channelsold3236 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    this has to be super historic the markets are booming and a looming recession simultaneously incredible every day 📈 💸 💰
    if we cut too soon triple bubble 🫧
    no raise now!!!!

  • @drewyoung2102
    @drewyoung2102 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Perhaps too nerdy for a airport news blurb show but early slow down warning of employment gives tech bubble 10 months easy with yesterdays flash of anxiety as a wake up call. Tech still ahead of small stock. QQQ vs BRKB tells story month to date well. A few percent of change on the moth difference is still noise.

  • @JamesCalabrese930
    @JamesCalabrese930 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Jeremy is right-

  • @Fgji230
    @Fgji230 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Need a change in sentiment and consumer confidence. We've done everything we could to ensure a soft landing. Forced companies to stabilize their margins. And many restructured in the last 2 years. Even warned of a recession so companies would be poised for a margin crunch. Benefits of a recession without the negatives. Was the goal all along. We're poised for steady growth. Fed may not need to cut. If sentiment changes enough. There's enough momentum in the economy yet.
    Politics is weighing on sentiment. Uncertainty is everywhere.
    There won't be a recession if sentiment changes. Now a rate cut could change that sentiment. But ultimately it's more symbolic than anything. Economy can grow at 5.25% ffr or 5.00% ffr. All the factors necessary for steady growth are in place now.

  • @tosl1232
    @tosl1232 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    Siegel has been calling for cuts since last year. Eventually he will get one right.

    • @erichvonmolder9310
      @erichvonmolder9310 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      No he hasn't.

    • @KungPowEnterFist
      @KungPowEnterFist 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      More like since early 2022 before the Fed even started hiking.

  • @allsportsexpert
    @allsportsexpert 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Sahm rule is not to predict but to verifies recession is indeed present if the conditions are met. Often times, the recession has already here for several months when the conditions are met. Sahm rule verifies the present of a recession so that the government could send out stimulus checks to help out the poor. It is not a predicting tool.

  • @Mr.Eeeeeeeee
    @Mr.Eeeeeeeee 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Fed should have started back in March. A .25 cut doesn’t make a ton of impact on inflation but helps the poor and smaller companies. No reason to keep rates at this level… fed was too late to raise and they will once again be too late to cut.

  • @KJB-gn8mr
    @KJB-gn8mr 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Finally , someone Joe can't continually talk over ...

  • @MrAndersonsplaybook
    @MrAndersonsplaybook 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Rates are right no need to cut, election cut

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    cut on a green day

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  • @SuperCatbert
    @SuperCatbert 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

    but the economy is so strong. keep that powder dry for when it starts to weaken....

  • @pinewood6340
    @pinewood6340 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    yes, prices have risen 3% in the past 12 months. what a game changer! insane that anyone listens to guys like him.

  • @crazyfox5858
    @crazyfox5858 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    Joe doesn't have the brains to call The Professor out on his nonsense. I am finding less and less value from CNBC.

  • @BRuane-pw6xq
    @BRuane-pw6xq 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Every GOP President since Hoover has had a Recession ALL of THEM different weak excuse each time but ALWAYS a RECESSION ALWAYS.

  • @Buckaroo801
    @Buckaroo801 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Seriously going to listen to Siegel? He didn’t want the rates to go above 3%….calling for constant recession until it didn’t happen and the economy kept on going.

  • @rickhayes-oh2zm
    @rickhayes-oh2zm 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

    biden just said we have the greatest economy ever

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  • @jermainebrown3457
    @jermainebrown3457 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

    He worried about the election. If Trump was President he would be screaming about a rate cut.

  • @user-in5vn1jp2q
    @user-in5vn1jp2q 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Peter Schiff is so much smarter and wiser than this ‘professor’

  • @Neelsworld2022
    @Neelsworld2022 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Only Mr. Trump can get those all time high interest rates down quick. Small cap biotech companies are going bankrupt every day . No hope for emerging biotech companies, innovation and fair competition. Thanks to high interest rates and democrat's quest to bring inflation down. Please save smallcap bio Mr. Trump

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    @eh7599 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Guy is a whiner

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