8:06 that clip was showing that G&W had two stocks, but for some reason when Incineroar killed him it ended the game and still had one stock icon for G&W
I could try and give a little insight on that Dedede clip at 11:11 I'm not too knowledgeable about Dedede and his hitboxes, but what I do know is that on his Forward Smash he has 2 hitboxes (the handle/stick of the hammer) on the initial swing that are actually windboxes. They have no other values on them whatsoever, just wind boxes. It's pretty hard to land those hitboxes over the big hammerhead hitbox that does damage, knockback, ect because they're quite small and are out for only a couple frames. When someone hits the windboxes, it actually throws them towards the ground very quickly, which can lead to some very weird looking ?spikes? into the ground that do no damage, hitlag, hitstun, or anything. So what I'm guessing happened is that during Iceies Side B there was some hurtbox shifting which led to Popo getting hit by the hammerhead hitbox and Nana getting the windbox, but because of the platform the windbox couldn't really send them down, so in flung them to the left because they were to the right of the center of the windbox.
@@jakck1769 You know, after taking another look at it frame by frame, that could actually be it. I may mess around with this later to try and figure it out, but this seems really hard to do on purpose.
2:39 As a Zelda main, I can answer this! Fully charged Phantom doesn’t have a hit box at the start of his dash, only at the end, so you can usually stand right next to him without getting hit, HOWEVER, he will drag in whatever direction he’s moving in if this happens. This guy clearly knew that and used it.
@@mr.wasgehtsiedasan8594 That was probably the original plan, but he definitely knew about the phantom being able to drag opponents, otherwise he wouldn't have threw at that back air.
Can you test more of the clips? Like with Dedede and the Ice Climbers? It's a lot of fun to watch both of you break down all the actions and try to perfect the moves used in order to recreate something
I may have a possible explanation for what happened in the Dedede clip at 11:13. First, though, i need to explain a few things. Icies can sometimes be jank when it comes to multihit moves because they each have their own separate hitlags, meaning that a move has to go through twice the hitlag while hitting both of them. For example, if Pichu tries to combo his dair's spike hitbox into the landing hitbox (a true combo on all other characters), whichever one gets hit first can actually recover and bring out their shield while Pichu is stuck in the hitlag from hitting the second one, thus escaping the combo and getting an easy punish. Did you know Dedede's F-smash is actually sometimes a 2-hit move? You can test it by f-smashing an aerial opponent, but you'll notice they get sent flying from where the hammer lands rather than where they're hit. This is because, for whatever reason, the move actually has a hitbox that does 0%, and immediately puts the opponent on the ground in front of him to get hit by the rest of the move. What I think happened is: -Nana and popo (with nana being the one controlled) are simultaneously hit by the 0% hitbox of Dedede F-smash -The weak hitbox for the f-smash (the first failsafe to prevent what you saw from happening) supposed to cancel out the momentum from the 0% hitbox does its job and sends nana flying normally. -However, because of the hitlag from the move hitting nana, it is unable to reach popo in time before he gets sent flying. -Because he is on a platform, popo cannot be pushed diagonally down into the strong hitbox of f-smash (the second failsafe), and is instead launched purely horizontally at mach-20. tldr: Icies deserved this for being a fundamentally broken character, but also fix Dedede f-smash please.
So about 11:15 DDD's F-Smash has a weird windbox on the hilt for the first couple of frames. Guess that hit here, though I wouldn't have expected it to be so strong. I've recently seen that in a video called something like "Dedede's hitboxes explained".
11:11 Dedede's hammer's handle has two pseudo-windboxes that aren't technically windboxes (?) during the beginning of his forward smash, when they hit they normally snap the character to the ground in a weird looking fashion, but Nana's "Popo gravity" caused a weird interaction where she just flew. You can look up "Explaining Dedede's Devious hitboxes" by Rekzius, and ten minutes in he goes over this.
2:37 let's a lottle precision, Kirby isn't to small for the phantom, it is just than the down b pushed Kirby after to touch him (the hitbow not begun with the phantom)
Honestly I get those down air techs 9/10 times because I’ve learned to look for it cuz of videos like this and just getting spiked a lot lol it’s so satisfying. I got a tech on a ganon dair and came back 1 stock left and he had 2.
11:33 There is a hitbox on the handle of Dedede's hammer that is supposed to snap you to the ground, setting you up to get hit by the hammer when it slams to the ground, but I guess the hitbox just launched Popo instead
My ideas for the Luigi/Robin clip, it is a possibility that Robins neutral special clanked with the hurtbox of Luigi and his side special hitbox on the same/alternative frame/s. During Luigi's side special, his hitbox is nearer the middle of his body more than it should seem to go with the fact that his hat is not part of his hurtbox because it makes sense that way. Because of this, the hitbox might have cancelled knockback after coming into contact with the hurtbox on the same or chronical frames. Basically Hitbox placement shenanigans.
I think I know what happened in the clip at 11:12 DDD's hammer has a windbox on the handle, and Nana hit that during the hitlag of Popo hitting the hammer head. It's a goofy hitbox, but maybe that's what happened.
11:35 Time for a Dedede explanation. I believe the reason why that happened is that Nana was spaced to be just in the right spot to be hit by Dedede's F-smash. The part where you take no damage. But that area where you take no damage is the same place where it's supposed to knock you into the sweet spot of the F-smash. However, this doesn't work if the opponent is on a platform. But if you look closely, Nana is not on the platform. So she should be pushed into to the sweet spot F-smash, right? Well, yes, but actually no. The platform once again cockblocks that from happening, but since Nana was in the air for that fraction of a second, she retains her momentum of being pushed into the F-smash (which carries A LOT of momentum), rather than it just being nulled because she was _standing_ on the platform. As a result, she is sent at Mach 17 speeds to the left of the blast zone, where she shall hopefully have a safe trip back to Alaska. ... Or Antartica.
I'm waiting for a final clip to be a team of two players doing some not very interesting combo on a single CPU that only works because no team attack. It's gonna happen at some point, I just know it.
The reason Dedede's Fsmash sent Nana at such a weird angle is becausr there is a Windbox on Dedede's Fsmash that never hits by itself really, and it sends you a weird angle.
It's supposed to be a hitbox if I had to guess but they didn't program it right as nothing really happens when those hit you aside from sending you down. Idk why it shot Nana off to the side but it's mostly likely that weird wind box
8:09 that happend with me once I was incinaroar and i was fighting a daisy and she went from 7 stocks to 5, I swear I imagined it but I looked back at the replay and she died 2x. Also the samus U-smash thing can happen with mii gunner.
P4Pie_ I’m not talking about the rapper, i am talking about how logic doesn’t exist in cartoons, like floating in the air, how a plastic baseball bat manages to break a wall, those examples go beyond the laws of logic. Just have a look at this paragraph of Wikipedia, and you’ll understand. -> Logic is the systematic study of the form of valid inference, and the most general laws of truth. A valid inference is one where there is a specific relation of logical support between the assumptions of the inference and its conclusion. In ordinary discourse, inferences may be signified by words such as therefore, thus, hence, ergo, and so on.
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Who let the dogs out
Woof!
Woof woof
Woof woof woof
Idk. The dogs went to go get some beef from the dudes that play smash
Are vyq and c5 brothers?
"i thought the mexican got hit by the gordo"
This is way funnier in spanish lmao
@@AbranTheDoor gordo...gordo means fat in spanish. That's the funny part. Imagine a mexican being hit by a fat man
@@crispie4802 You're welcome
Honestly I call Duck Hunt's Down B "The Mexicans" too was shocked to hear it then laughed at the phrase since Gordo means Fat/Fatty
アスカは1番ワイフ vayase a la verga
8:06 that clip was showing that G&W had two stocks, but for some reason when Incineroar killed him it ended the game and still had one stock icon for G&W
I thought the clip was about how it seemed G&W got ripped to shreds
It doesn’t actually end the game. It just plays the final stock animation and the rest of the game is in a weird filter
Ya, they knew that. They just couldn't explain why it happened.
@@howedaddy6122 Actually, I don't think they did.
I thought it was the music fitting perfectly to inceneroars hits
What if
You Wanted to do Smash Review
But God said
*Dog*
You mean duckhunt?😂
@@Electromagnet9000 ruined the joke..
Even better
Dog is just God backwards
@@TheDriver458 no shit sherlock
I could try and give a little insight on that Dedede clip at 11:11
I'm not too knowledgeable about Dedede and his hitboxes, but what I do know is that on his Forward Smash he has 2 hitboxes (the handle/stick of the hammer) on the initial swing that are actually windboxes. They have no other values on them whatsoever, just wind boxes. It's pretty hard to land those hitboxes over the big hammerhead hitbox that does damage, knockback, ect because they're quite small and are out for only a couple frames. When someone hits the windboxes, it actually throws them towards the ground very quickly, which can lead to some very weird looking ?spikes? into the ground that do no damage, hitlag, hitstun, or anything. So what I'm guessing happened is that during Iceies Side B there was some hurtbox shifting which led to Popo getting hit by the hammerhead hitbox and Nana getting the windbox, but because of the platform the windbox couldn't really send them down, so in flung them to the left because they were to the right of the center of the windbox.
That might be it.
To add on to this, I'm pretty sure the reason nana only got hit by the windbox is because the actual hitbox was stuck in the hitlag from hitting popo.
@@jakck1769 You know, after taking another look at it frame by frame, that could actually be it. I may mess around with this later to try and figure it out, but this seems really hard to do on purpose.
na DDD is just king
Dedede is the most wackass character in the game and this is why I love him. The programmers simply couldn't comprehend his power.
Him, Wii Fit Trainer, and Pac-Man are all the most wackass.
@@useraccount333 I'd lump Duck Hunt in there too.
I love dededes cause they’re are my punching bags
Beefy Smash Doods: Maybe it's easier to tech when at high percent,
Shulk: *Thinking* 5:27
Awesome they used my clip! 10:33 thanks BeefySmashDoods
3:17
I like Incenaroar's reaction. He's like: well, i screwed my teammate again...
"So I get thrown into her and she just flies away? [To the camera] Who writes this crap?"
0:12
I watch ONE dog review food video and the TH-cam algorithm takes it a step further
_vyQ ISN'T WEARING AN EXCLUSIVE BSD SHIRT!_
*THOU HAST COMMITED SIN AND THOU MUST REPENT*
Also, Beefy Smash Doggo for Smash
More like vyQ isn't wearing an extremely low cut neck shirt?
You mean shibe?
2:39 As a Zelda main, I can answer this! Fully charged Phantom doesn’t have a hit box at the start of his dash, only at the end, so you can usually stand right next to him without getting hit, HOWEVER, he will drag in whatever direction he’s moving in if this happens. This guy clearly knew that and used it.
Or he just wanted to cover normal get up/attack while he thought the phantom would cover roll.
Could have been luck too :)
@@mr.wasgehtsiedasan8594 That was probably the original plan, but he definitely knew about the phantom being able to drag opponents, otherwise he wouldn't have threw at that back air.
You had me at the start there. I almost thought the good boys turned into gooder boys.
8:00 It did the animation as if the game was over but Game&watch had another stock.
they spliced the last stock in between the second to last stock
where did she come from
11:18
Where did she come from
Cotton Eye Joe
Am I the only one who kept pausing/rewinding at 7:30 cause I thought the TH-cam quality went to shit?
I did it a few times before I realized it was the video
I did once and then noticed that the BSDs were crystal clear.
Nobody:
Michael Jackson: 3:19
Lmao why
I'm deceased
😂😂💀😂😂💀😂😂💀😂😂
Aahhhahaahahaahahaa!
Lmaaaao
😂
Hey! 11:30, it's the windbox! DDD's got a windbix on F-smash for some reason. It must have sent her flying.
Can you test more of the clips? Like with Dedede and the Ice Climbers? It's a lot of fun to watch both of you break down all the actions and try to perfect the moves used in order to recreate something
When it's too farfetched and there's no clear reason, it can be a bit pointless because they won't know where to look.
@@fernandobanda5734 then they should do it if it looks like it's possible also they can try right?
I may have a possible explanation for what happened in the Dedede clip at 11:13. First, though, i need to explain a few things.
Icies can sometimes be jank when it comes to multihit moves because they each have their own separate hitlags, meaning that a move has to go through twice the hitlag while hitting both of them. For example, if Pichu tries to combo his dair's spike hitbox into the landing hitbox (a true combo on all other characters), whichever one gets hit first can actually recover and bring out their shield while Pichu is stuck in the hitlag from hitting the second one, thus escaping the combo and getting an easy punish.
Did you know Dedede's F-smash is actually sometimes a 2-hit move? You can test it by f-smashing an aerial opponent, but you'll notice they get sent flying from where the hammer lands rather than where they're hit. This is because, for whatever reason, the move actually has a hitbox that does 0%, and immediately puts the opponent on the ground in front of him to get hit by the rest of the move.
What I think happened is:
-Nana and popo (with nana being the one controlled) are simultaneously hit by the 0% hitbox of Dedede F-smash
-The weak hitbox for the f-smash (the first failsafe to prevent what you saw from happening) supposed to cancel out the momentum from the 0% hitbox does its job and sends nana flying normally.
-However, because of the hitlag from the move hitting nana, it is unable to reach popo in time before he gets sent flying.
-Because he is on a platform, popo cannot be pushed diagonally down into the strong hitbox of f-smash (the second failsafe), and is instead launched purely horizontally at mach-20.
tldr: Icies deserved this for being a fundamentally broken character, but also fix Dedede f-smash please.
Love this channel
And the Doggy
So about 11:15
DDD's F-Smash has a weird windbox on the hilt for the first couple of frames. Guess that hit here, though I wouldn't have expected it to be so strong. I've recently seen that in a video called something like "Dedede's hitboxes explained".
In case you didn’t see it, the clip with Game and Watch and Incineroar was a showcase of Incineroar taking two stocks at once.
More doggos!!!
7:30
When your Auto quality set to 144p.
(And trust me, i thought my internet was tricking me.)
But i'm watching in 144p because of data
Beefy smash doods: *Exist*
Dogs: Im about to end this mans whole career
5:48 wow, impressive.
5:50 wait why is the clip still rolling
LOL OMG I was the Megaman in The Holy Turnip Gods Jigglypuff Combo! (Im seriously still ashamed he got me with that INSANE move)
For the zelda one, its not that kirby is too small to hit. When any character is right in front of the phantom, they get pushed forward instead of hit
This
Putting dogs in gamer chairs in front of a green screen is prime meme material.
It is a good day when both you and GRSmash release a new video
Jigglypuff main: * does combo *
Other player: I'm going to go to sleep. At least I'll be well RESTED
I hope we get to see more of the Beefy Smash Dogs, they’re just the cutest!
11:35
dedede's foward smash have a wierd glitch inducing windbox in his arms.
11:11 Dedede's hammer's handle has two pseudo-windboxes that aren't technically windboxes (?) during the beginning of his forward smash, when they hit they normally snap the character to the ground in a weird looking fashion, but Nana's "Popo gravity" caused a weird interaction where she just flew. You can look up "Explaining Dedede's Devious hitboxes" by Rekzius, and ten minutes in he goes over this.
instant-like for the border collies, I love that dog breed 🐶
2:37 let's a lottle precision, Kirby isn't to small for the phantom, it is just than the down b pushed Kirby after to touch him (the hitbow not begun with the phantom)
4:18 Dang, Shulk's really cheesing those Mechon.
Dude, I'm always so happy for each episode, cfive is so funny
"I thought that the Mexican got hit by the gordo..."
Mexicans: are we a broma to you?
Honestly I get those down air techs 9/10 times because I’ve learned to look for it cuz of videos like this and just getting spiked a lot lol it’s so satisfying. I got a tech on a ganon dair and came back 1 stock left and he had 2.
I love how they could barely get the border collies to sit still
Dogs are prescious
I was hoping it really was just the dogs watching for the entire episode. That would have been great.
11:33 There is a hitbox on the handle of Dedede's hammer that is supposed to snap you to the ground, setting you up to get hit by the hammer when it slams to the ground, but I guess the hitbox just launched Popo instead
*final clip* i'm really feeling it!!
*After final clip* (insert shulk screams here)
My ideas for the Luigi/Robin clip, it is a possibility that Robins neutral special clanked with the hurtbox of Luigi and his side special hitbox on the same/alternative frame/s. During Luigi's side special, his hitbox is nearer the middle of his body more than it should seem to go with the fact that his hat is not part of his hurtbox because it makes sense that way. Because of this, the hitbox might have cancelled knockback after coming into contact with the hurtbox on the same or chronical frames.
Basically Hitbox placement shenanigans.
1:48 What you're looking for
0:46 Charlie almost looked like he reacted to that clip. Good boy
Liked for the dogs stayed for the awesome vid
I think I know what happened in the clip at 11:12
DDD's hammer has a windbox on the handle, and Nana hit that during the hitlag of Popo hitting the hammer head. It's a goofy hitbox, but maybe that's what happened.
Okay you sure there's actually a windbox
@@yourboy9236 it's actually programmed like a hitbox but doesn't do damage or hit stun. It usually just sends someone straight down.
11:35
Time for a Dedede explanation.
I believe the reason why that happened is that Nana was spaced to be just in the right spot to be hit by Dedede's F-smash. The part where you take no damage. But that area where you take no damage is the same place where it's supposed to knock you into the sweet spot of the F-smash. However, this doesn't work if the opponent is on a platform.
But if you look closely, Nana is not on the platform. So she should be pushed into to the sweet spot F-smash, right?
Well, yes, but actually no. The platform once again cockblocks that from happening, but since Nana was in the air for that fraction of a second, she retains her momentum of being pushed into the F-smash (which carries A LOT of momentum), rather than it just being nulled because she was _standing_ on the platform.
As a result, she is sent at Mach 17 speeds to the left of the blast zone, where she shall hopefully have a safe trip back to Alaska.
...
Or Antartica.
We need an episode with just the dogs. No commentary, just dogs.
0:56 yo i just noticed kirby actually changes hand on the b-reverse, instead of turning around haha
Thank God, your brothers
8:42 That one isn't my clip but I'm happy mine still got in anyways lol
I dont think ive ever seen a good ending clip for these yet lol
That gunnerman made a noble sacrifice by taking those gordo hits like a champ
Lol i still remember u guys fighterz vids
Border Collies! I had one named Oreo. He wus gud boi.
I had a French Bulldog with that same name.
2:03 im dying..
"The Mexican"!! XDD
The hit-stun in this game is hilarious
Now, those are some good doggos. All hail the Beefy Smash Borks
Aww I actually wanted the dogs to host this smash review
Is this Angry Beavers music or does it just sound like it? Anyway I love it!
the clip at 8 minutes, the game and watch had another stock but still lost
Really?
He didn't lose, it just played the filter and now the rest of the match is gray.
Petition to report Super Mario Maker 2 for Mobile ads
6:25-6:27 is just like the invisible ceiling misfire glitch from melee
Blackphantom...did you just discover the invisible ceiling in Ult?
At 8:43, you guys forgot to change the name to 5p3ck. That was supposed to be my clip... Thanks for including it tho
Why the CPU is so smart and all of my CPUs are so stupid?
I will not let the King be disrespected by his own subjects.
7:19 coming back from area 51 with the 5th charge of thunder thome
I'm going to look into what causes the Arcthunder to hit like that though I got a hunch about what it might be.
11:15
Popo (This is an alternate skin where Popo and Nana swap): I Must go now, My Planet Needs Me
(AIGHT I'M BOUTTA HEAD OUT)
11:26 Dedede has a Windbox or something like that, i cant remember in his hands in F smash for some reason and that happens
3:14 my man got clipped by a team of 2 cpus lmaooo
2:22 i dont know why but its reminding me of when Iggy farted in polnareffs face at the start of jojo part 3 egypt
Omg same
“I thought the Mexican got hit by the Gordo and that was pretty funny”
6:12 Luigi using just 3% of his power
I adore your dogs, they're so cute
I'm waiting for a final clip to be a team of two players doing some not very interesting combo on a single CPU that only works because no team attack. It's gonna happen at some point, I just know it.
"The Mexican got hit by the Gordo."
_-Beefy Smash Bro #2_
11:16 Dededes forward smash actually has a small windbox at the front of the hammer
Hero only Smash Review next?!!!!
Voltage The Pikachu 31
The reason Dedede's Fsmash sent Nana at such a weird angle is becausr there is a Windbox on Dedede's Fsmash that never hits by itself really, and it sends you a weird angle.
It's supposed to be a hitbox if I had to guess but they didn't program it right as nothing really happens when those hit you aside from sending you down. Idk why it shot Nana off to the side but it's mostly likely that weird wind box
Maybe with the ice climber dedede clip the windbox/hitboxs on the handle of the hammer caused Nana to fly
I wish we had morw screen time with the dogs
Dogos.
Yes. I love them.
Oh my god they're adorable let them host every single smash review
Sees dogs, immediately likes
We actually need a dog hosted episode. #LetTheDogsHostSmash
0:13 Omg didn't even notice!
Nice video!! I laugh and cry every time🤩🤮
2:02 "Like, the Mexican got hit by the Gordo and I thought heh, that's funny. But then...."
Basically a commentary on any MKLeo v. DeDeDe matchup.
As soon as I saw the dogs I paused the video and hit like
Double Doggy Episode!
Wait you guYS ARE BROTHERS!?
That's what I thought too!?
And now we head into the wincest route of this channel
We Duck Hunt mains are a different breed
8:09 that happend with me once I was incinaroar and i was fighting a daisy and she went from 7 stocks to 5, I swear I imagined it but I looked back at the replay and she died 2x. Also the samus U-smash thing can happen with mii gunner.
theypatchedityay
Holy cow! I thought the bad quality was coming from my end. 😂
Smash is like a cartoon, and Logic, doesn’t exist, just like cartoons.
schindlerteejay94 logic is a good rapper
P4Pie_ I’m not talking about the rapper, i am talking about how logic doesn’t exist in cartoons, like floating in the air, how a plastic baseball bat manages to break a wall, those examples go beyond the laws of logic. Just have a look at this paragraph of Wikipedia, and you’ll understand. -> Logic is the systematic study of the form of valid inference, and the most general laws of truth. A valid inference is one where there is a specific relation of logical support between the assumptions of the inference and its conclusion. In ordinary discourse, inferences may be signified by words such as therefore, thus, hence, ergo, and so on.
schindlerteejay94 yes I know and as you were, I was making a joke
P4Pie_ Good Joke, there is also a Smash player called Logic, who plays as Olimar, and Mewtwo.
schindlerteejay94 oh is there really I didn't even know haha