Why This Scene From Dune 2 Felt So Insane
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In this video I breakdown of the sandworm riding scene in Dune: Part 2 and how sound design, cinematography, performance, VFX and directing, all work together to make it so effective.
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Really nice touch of realism when the worm blasts across the plain: Paul first stand still, thinking it's heading toward him, then starts moving left, realizes that it isn't going that way, then starts moving rights, and then realizes it's not nearly as close as he thought it as and has to start sprinting to intercept it. People do have a hard time judging the movement and distances of very large objects (thus why people keep getting hit by trains) so that is something that feels entirely real.
Actually, he knew exactly where the worm was gonna go, thats the point of the thumper..
this comment 1000% the last bit where he struggles to push himself up from his knee. tell us how absolutely fast this massive beast is going without telling us how absolutely fast this massive beast is going. filmmaking at it's peak.
sound design in both films is top notch. the thumping sound alone is iconic
I adore getting lost in the sound in either Part One or Part Two of Dune. It's beyond fantastic and sometimes given that I've seen both movies easily over 8 times it's great to close your eyes at some points to really let the audio take over... it's really at least 50% of what makes the movies insane to me next to the visuals and all of course.
The only other example coming to mind, coming close or even being on the same level is Oppenheimer. Though there's nothing that can replace that freaking iconic thumping sound haha... I love how they recorded sand layers even beep below the thumper to make sure it really sounds tactile and "right", that deep deep thumping.
@@menuki6996 the loud clicks of the sandworms before the final war, and the massive ship horn when they open their mouths and show them to the audience? Flawless.
Though I do think Blade Runner 2049 also has wonderful sound, as well as the Oblivion movie with M83's sound and music. Oppenheimer is a titan thoughit was amazing 🙌
The bass in IMAX shook the seats
I've friends who watched this at home on streaming instead of in the cinema and I just want to slap them. Like why did you even bother?😮💨
@@mauz791 This may sound silly but this comment alone made me rewatch the movie just for that scene. Epic as always...
And I totally agree with BR 2049!! I feel a bit bad for not mentoning it but anyone who likes the work of Denis HAS to check out BR too generally next to amazing audio and all. Fabulous movie as well..
10:45 Zimmer's score kicks in and I get goosebumps all over again. It really is a testament of greatness
That point I also got goosebumps and a huge smile watching it in the cinema. Probably my favorite scene in the film
That's when I realized I'd been holding my breath for the past minute. Both times I saw the movie haha
this scene made me leave my body and the cinema room behind and only return after the movie ended
Bless the Hans and his music
That scene sold the movie for me. I literally bought the books because of that scene
When this scene was over in the theater I relaxed and realized I had been sitting straight up, completely tensed and gripping the seat. Haven't felt that in a movie ever before that I can remember.
that's beautiful.
Babe, wake up. Thomas Flight made another Dune video
We've been waiting for Dune 2 videos 😍
It do be that time of the year!
@@8020Alive I was waiting for him to drop this video. And you truly itself is crime considering you put it in this channel
@@8020Alive Thanks. Yours isn't
@@8020Alive Atleast not pointless like yours😅
“Hey, Muad’Dib! Don’t embarrass us! Call a big one!”
Not that big!!
A grandmother of a worm
@@mgasukihanwa841umm actually it's grandfather
@@dingdongs5208 ..achtually, no, literally, Grandmother of a Worm..
@@StayFractalesque Shai-Hulud literally translates as Grandfather of the Desert or Old Man of the Desert.
One of the sound designers on LOTR said that the key to doing a big scene like a battle is zeroing in on the most important sound for a shot and then switching to the next one very fast. Interesting to see some of the same principles being applied here.
The comparison with surfing and avanlanches was a real eye opener, thanks!
The moment where the sand fully encapsulates Paul and the sound almost has a 360 enclosing effect, which was incredible in IMAX, was the part of this scene that I remembered the most!
I genuienly started tearing up at what i was seeing on my IMAX screen. My jaw was agape, goosebumps all over. The way my seat shook- it felt like I was there in the scene with them. Just amazing.
4:38 just realized, after seeing the scene for the 10th time, that they could have delayed the sound of the worm breaking through this dune by a second to show the distance…
That scene was undoubtfully a great cinematic moment, the entire room was rumbling to the core. Glorious.
Seeing this movie twice in IMAX made me so IMAX pulled in a way I didn’t think was possible
This is such an awesome post!
Thank you for the time and effort it took and for sharing it with us.
One thing you didn't mention which I loved was 0 exposition on how riding works and why the worm doesn't take the rider down with it. And yet it made perfect sense when seeing it.
They could have easily included a dialog like "remember, keep dem holes open or you dine in hell tonight" but they didn't and im glad.
This was my favorite scene in the movie. One of the most engaging I'd ever seen in a movie theater.
You just perfectly described the relation between cinema and electronic music!! A controlled linear atmosphere that builds and releases tension in ways that complements and emphasizes each of it’s elements
No joke, this scene made me tear up because of how fucking epic it was. The emotion from that scene was just incredible.
I was so impressed by the use of such powerful synthesizer sounds for Hans Zimmer's soundtrack in the sea wall scene in Blade Runner 2049. (so tired of the typical orchestra stuff in most films.)
In terms of Paul only just managing to ride the worm, I understood this to be because the worm was much bigger than they ever expected and this unexpectedly won over a lot of the doubters within the group.
Denis is the absolute master of building and building and building tension… Think of the border crossing scene in Sicario. The actual action is just seconds long… but it feels so much more since he builds so much tension before that
My God, I'm glad that directors like Villeneuve are working today. This isn't really meant to be an all-new-stuff-is-bad type statement (overall, I still think we're in a pretty good time for cinema), but it is really nice to see people who really understand the tools and tricks of filmmaking well enough to push it forward like this. Dune: Messiah is gonna melt theater projectors, I swear.
That was great cinema and the analysis was perfectly brought to the point. I would like to see such an analysis at the end of
Wish Civil War.
This video is longer that the actual scene, the power that this movie has is just amazing.
I wasn’t lucky enough to see this in IMAX, but even in the theater I went to, I got roller coaster thrills from this scene.
While I am madly in love with the two movies, I am wondering about the ending. It feels really weird and not too much thought through. Eg. the weird choice of having Paul appear in an almost comical manner in the throne room without showing much fighting beyond the worm attack, rather than finisihing Rabban's plot first, instead of creating a weird ending-after-ending interruption for it. Or the almost soapish choice of having the other houses communicating entirely off screen, with Gurney Halleck telling everything instead of showing anything, which for me took more away from the dimension than mentioning the houses added.
Might be my favorite movie to watch in theater
3:26 and this is the biggest issue with films at home... having the move so loud that you can barley hear 2 characters talking softly only to have the whole house woken up when the action scene kick back in. works great for the theaters but the majority of media now adays is at home and the minority of those are with head phones on so yea when u have a kid ull understand.
Kills me you never see him put the goggles on, because the scene IS SOOO amazing. Great video as always 🤙
This scene had me screaming. Good thing I was one of only 3 people inside the cinema, and I can barely even hear myself due to the sound design.
The sound of the sandworm scene was epic in imax. I could feel my seat rumbling.
I saw this in Imax and the theater shook so hard my popcorn bucket fell off my seat and spilled all over the floor
Thomas...the haicut and beard are perfect. Where can I find a pic of you with your shirt off ???
0:09
20,000 years in the future*
The 10,000 you see in the calendar is at the beginning of the first movie is 10,000 years from a specific date of something happening and 10,000 years before that is now
Tom Hardy said in an interview (paraphrasing) that the reason people love Indiana Jones is because you can hear his reluctance. Hearing Paul talk to himself thru it is relatable. He's scared. He's nervous. He's trying to remember his training. He's breathing heavily. We don't see a vision of Paul accomplishing this feat so the audience doesn't know the outcome.
Also seeing the hooks pierce the sandworm's skin made me wince. For a sec I felt sad for a sandworm that doesn't exist. The world hurts.
AAAHHHHHHH! Thomas made another Dune analysis video!! 😍
Dune is actually set about 19,000 years in the future. The year 10,191 is not using our calendar; they're way past that.
The sound of dune is an experience in itself
My heart started to beat stronger during this scene. I felt adrenaline like I was there. It was the first time ever in my life when I felt something like this in a cinema
Another excellent analysis.I always look forward to your next videos.
Great video!
Please talk about sound design in Civil War, imo i think they've done an awesome job.
The scene was made with a stuntman actually running towards an explosion under a dune they've created... but the sandworm riding felt boring to me. Glad to hear other people's perspective. It's like VR making people queasy. The more you have a grip on reality, the more chances you have to get sick the first time around (that's your brain freaking out because something is not right). Sorry I didnt watch your video I gtg but Yea! Gladly putting it into perspective. ty
I love his reviews! I want them to show both movies in theater! I’d be there for that so hard! Seeing this in theater was amazing. I went twice! I read these books many years ago and Dune is my Mom’s nickname! I went to high school with Lindsay Ellis! Tell her I say hi!
I hope she’s well! :)
5:55 yes i hate the thing marvel does where the camera movements feel unrealistic why are we spinning around the characters
The movie did not show Paul putting on his glasses. He takes out the hooks and starts running without glasses on. And suddenly they are just magically on him as he makes the worm turn xD
It's such an obvious goof its baffling to keep that in. Denis is clearly not a perfectionist xD
Yeah. And why did the worm miss the thumper? Paul plants the thumper down to the left, the worm hits way to the right.
@@lordcrunk4790 Indeed. Denis have some weird narrative logistics. Like in the start of Part Two.
The Harkonnen had the high ground but were sniped down like flies xD
And we never saw where from? Utterly bafflingly bad.
But its awesome visually and somehow that is enough.
True, although these are nitpicks.
@@TheNobleFive Oh for sure. I just love nitpicking at times ^
Dune Part Two is by far the most astounding visually movie I've seen since Interstellar. But that didn't mean I did not nitpick at Interstellar as well ;)
Small correction: Dune take place 20,000 years in the future. The 10,191 year is 10,000 years after the Butlerian Jihad which occurs 10,000 after current events
I did 2 tours in Afghanistan, with the massive sandstorms they have. Very good wok D.V.!
13:13 Oh no no, Thomas, when Villeneuve says that he obviously doesn't mean that the visual element of movies is what impacts or moves him the most in a personal level nor that visual storytelling is probably the most important narrative techniques in cinema... He means that NO MOVIE can be good if it is dialogue heavy and in fact if i quote a famous line from a well known movie like "we'll always have paris" or "frankly dear i don't give a damn" i am proving beyond a shadow of doubt that i am smarter than him.
the one thing i always wonder about when i watch video essays on movies is how are these creators getting the footage
the digital release of this movie has been out for awhile now. That's why he hadn't posted about the movie before, he only got access to the footage in the last few weeks. Most of the videos that came out right after the movie's theatrical release just re-use trailer footage
@@Hubblehotsauce Still i believe that any digital release would be drm’d?
0:10 fun fact, the year 10,000 refers to 10,000 years since the founding of the spacing guild, not from now, it's set more like 20,000 years from
Unless...
NERD!!!
That is a fun fact! Dune lore is still a foggy area for me, but damn do I love the movies
This blew me away when I read it in the Dune Encyclopedia way back. I know it's not seen as "canon" now, but after giving some of the prequels a go, I have to say the Encyclopedia feels a lot more like the world Frank Herbert originally created.
Was just typing this then saw your comment haha
I will never get over how huge the Dune movies are. The sheer sound of it all is overwhelmingly epic.
I'm epically overwhelmed.
As written
It's why I get pissed at Gen Z who say they hate Dune, and of course they didn't see it in theaters; they watched it at home, on a crappy 32'' LCD, with no sound system of any kind.
Dune's soundscape is utterly _massive._
It _commands_ an IMAX viewing. Just... Truly another level stuff.
the CRAZIEST thing is... from the moment the "enemy" warriors float and transcend the mountain. until one of the last minutes of the film, most scenes are really incredible. its just a well-woven multilayered quality of great filmmaking and creating powerful scenes.
@@Soniti1324 has a single gen z person said they hate the film? I heard thousand of real gen z children say they love it.
The way Villeneuve communicates how worm-riding works in this scene is also worthy of remark; using the hooks to expose the spiracles, and then the worm instantly responding by rolling the xposed section up and away from the sand, a single shot demonstrates what half a page of text explains in the book. Remarkable work.
I love the inclusion of the “no, lower” from Chani, and the punching of the dune to hear the resonance, as if there is a skill, a touch, that is learned (or foreknown) like English in billiards. It’s fantastic!
But how do they get others on the worm after the rider takes control? Even Lynch was able to show more worm riding than this one did. It was just more visually intense.
@@treborkroy5280 It's important to note that Paul is much less skilled in this scene than most riders so they'd have more control _and_ the worm he rides is one of the biggest worms in living memory so it's safe to say the typical experience is _much_ more controlled than the scene in the film. As for how it's done, they stick anchors and ropes in the thick skin and then just ride it in circles while everyone grabs on and climbs up, it's like trying to catch a bus that can't stop but will do slow laps round the block while people jump into the open door.
@@Imperial_SquidAhhhh, makes sense. Still must be bloody tricky getting all those people and gear up there. Dennis said in an interview he has an idea how they do it and he hopes to show us next time🤞
@@briancolwill3071 The desert takes the weak. If you cannot climb the worm, you are not a fremen.
As a surfer I 100% felt the wipeout inspiration of the sandworm scene. The quick rush of darkness and deep sound followed by chaos. Trying to keep control while tossed about, barely knowing where your limbs are. Extremely visceral
extremely and ridiculously impossible
just silly film making, for middling minds that like stunning visuals and nonsensical narrative
I’ve seen a lot of surf footage of the really big wave stuff - Jaws, Pipe, etc. - and I suspect Denis spent a lot of time asking “How do I get that feel?”!
I was a VFX Artist in this film and on several of these sequences. I think what makes DV such a great director to work with is that he doesn't diminish CGI's importance (cough Nolan) or see it simply as an 'extension' of practical effects but as a tool in it's own right. Therefore he doesn't cut corners in either and is very clear about the kind of things he wants to achieve with it, with an inherent understanding of how importance practical REFERENCE is for us to do what we do. The filmed sequences were really good reference for lighting and materials but I think the general public has no clue how many of the scenes in this film are 80-100% CGI, this sequence included. I guess it is the testament to the work that was done but when DNEG releases their Deep Dive on this film I hope many people will get to see how much labour was put into this film on the VFX end.
Here's the VFX Deep Dive for the first film. Deserves way more views imo:
th-cam.com/video/UARrOsNPviA/w-d-xo.html
The quality and seamlessness of the effects are clear to me. I started on Photoshop on its first iteration decades ago and was one of the first people in the United States to receive a college degree in computer photographic imaging in the 90s. While I've moved on to another career and the technology has passed me by, I can appreciate the effort and integrity shown by you and the other artists.
This film was an example of well-developed effects from different sources blended together so well that there's nothing to pull a viewer out of their immersion. I know how anything at this level of competence requires cooperation and vision, not just by the leader of the project but by everyone involved in each segment of the art produced. I could see it in the films and the behind-the-scenes DVDs from Lord of the Rings years ago, and I can see it in the finished results from Dune Part 2. Congratulations on a job masterfully done.
@@rikk319 perfectly said. Dune 1 and 2 use VFX in the same way LOTR and Jurassic Park and Fury Road did. These films will hold up forever because of the VFX using the strengths of practical and CGI together.
@@erikschwartz1214 Thanks for reminding me of Jurassic Park and Fury Road, two other films definitely deserving of praise for similar excellence.
Would love to hear more about your experience working on this film!
Nolan's films suffer so much because of this mentality recently, which is why his best work for me is still Inception.. like, dude makes a movie about Nukes.. uses obvious gasoline explosions instead of an accurate Nuke depiction..
Gonna need this man to break down the whole movie.
Watch this video to find out how to see him doing just that. LOL
are you that dumb that you need someone to explain the simplistic tropes and memes used here?
Steven Spielberg said this scene "is one of the greatest things I've ever seen. Ever!" and I wholeheartedly agree with him. Seeing this in Imax was like a religious experience.
Wholeheartedly agree
The audience rose with Paul, and it nearly transcended the theatrical experience
@@SPIKESPIEGEL1969 He did
I wormheartedly agree.
@potatosaladinfinity A podcast interview both spielberg and DV participated called "Director's Cut", he even said DV is one of the few "world builders directors", same way nolan and kubrick are. Just search "Steven Spielberg Dune 2" on google
Spielberg has long been a hack
Surfer of 32 years here. This scene captures better than any surf video what it feels like taking on big waves. The timing, focus, rapid decision making, sounds, physics, sense of scale and outright terror and elation - it’s all there. Talked to other surfers and they said same. These people really did the research. Great job breaking down the scene Thomas.
Dune 2 is the first movie in a very long time where I just had no idea how they made it. The vfx, miniatures, and actual footage were seamless in IMAX. And no one else mixes sound like this. Villenueve and his team have leveled up.
true. felt like a dream.
100%! I've the 1984 Dune nostalgics try to claim there's so much bad CGI in the new Dune movies and I just loooool😂 They're huffing some serious copium. Dune 1984 looks like a school play in comparison. The art direction and VFX in both Part One and Two are beautiful. The cinematography and music is beautiful. Top notch acting from all of the cast. Absolutely sublime. Movies like Interstellar, Blade Runner 2049 and both new Dunes shows its still possible modern classics to emerge. It just takes a director with a clear vision and dedication and the right combination of cast and crew to create works of art in an era of such generic formulaic garbage. The optimistic in me is meekly hoping the Dunes will spearhead a new era of film making but I'll believe it when I see it.
Hooks pulled up on flaps that covered some sort of inlets, which presumably need to be protected from sand intake. So it seems somewhat reasonable that the worm would trend up...but ALL showing and no telling....Villeneuve is a virtuoso.
@K.C-2049 Well, that's the filmmaker he wants to be. Tarantino's films would be somewhat let down by Villeneuve's level of dialogue, but it's perfect for what Villeneuve is doing, and as a result, Villeneuve was the perfect director for Dune, as much of the book is internal monologue and intellectual/world building exposition without words from the characters. He might be the best show-don't-tell director working right now.
Really hope he gets $ for two more.
I have no problem sitting through extended, director`s cut of two movies combined together :) give me 7 hours of Denis Villeneuve`s Dune
the movie you saw on screen IS the director's cut.
Just instantly one of the greatest scenes of the 2020's. Going back to 1984 Dune it's outright comical how different the sand worm riding is portrayed.
2020's? One of the greatest scenes of the 21st century so far. lol
@@ComedyBros5 are you fn kidding me? I pretty much forgot this scene. It's cool but it just look like tom cruise in a top gun cockpit. its no different. forgettable - as proven by me forgetting it.
@@philmcclenaghan7056 are you fn kidding me? I read your comment and immediately forgot you existed.
@@philmcclenaghan7056bro what? Literally one of the most memorable moments from the film
@@philmcclenaghan7056 Yeah I'm sure you could make it much much better, Denis is an amateur who doesn't know how to make a movie.
I am sad that he adapted Dune and not you.
Kills me that everyone gets this wrong. The Dune series is set in the year 10191 A.G (Or after the founding of the Spacing Guild). That event happened at the end of the Butlerian Jihad against thinking machines. There had been space travel for 11200 years BEFORE 1 A.G. So Dune is set AT LEAST 21000 years in the future, amd most likely more like 25000 years in the future.
Its not really that important tbh.
It is so! the timeline is integral to the whole story
@@carmelmosser8028 Definitely is. I remember in Dune Messiah I think Paul mention about the Nazis and how Jews they killed but Stilgar wasn’t impressed by the numbers
Thank you for doing the math, I love getting to know little things like that for freeeeee
I agree about Chalamet's performance. It's seems simple, but having taken some intense rides myself when I rode longboards at over fifty miles per hour, I could feel Paul's anxiety from his breath and repetition of, "okay."
5:17
The best example of this camera work is Pacific Rim vs the shitty sequel that we agreed doesn't exist.
I really get what he's saying and it is true, but it's the cinematography of Dune is so static and aritifical it doesn't help at all to ground the scene. Camera movement is Fraser's weakness.
I mean that's the opposite of what's he saying@@r.c.c.10
..what do we think about the PR Anime?
For me, Paul accomplishing sandworm ride misison with such struggle adds more geniunity to the movie. We`re not watching Marvel super hero. He is still a young man in late 20s. So, I expect him to have hard time to stand on a giant moving animal
I could be wrong but I think he's a teenager in the books. The movie doesn't really say how old he is though
@@hookoffthejab1 I never read the books but in the novel, checked a couple of articles, they say he is a teenager. His age in the movie never revealed specifically but we can take Timothy`s own age represents Paul`s age in the movie.
@@mrshadow2514 In the book, both Paul and Feyd are 15-16, but we pass through 3-4 years before the end of the book. Paul was described as a wiry, fit teen, short for his age, so Timothee was a perfect cast for Paul's physicality. I think both book author and film director got across the point that someone doesn't have to be physically imposing to be charismatic--or dangerous.
@@rikk319Chalamet is nearly 6 feet so he’s def not short.
@@rikk319 Yeah. Bautista's Rabban is the most physically imposing character in Dune 2, but feels **least** dangerous!
Please do the Speech scene at the end of the movie too, that scene made me feel things like no other movie scene has ever done
Let's be honest, it's the way Timothée shouts
*"D U K E of Arrakis"*
@@janmajer4662also the chakobsa lines for "hand of God be my witness. I am the Lisan al-gaib" while pounding his chest and looking up to the sky. Absolute chills. I've watched that scene like 20x and it hasn't lost its efficacy.
@@piadox It is absolutely captivating
Almost primeval. Just transfixing. I know exactly what you're talking about.
@@piadox saw it three times in theaters. all three times I was captivated more than I've ever been but god, that first time evoked a feeling in me like no other. "I am the voice from the outer world. I will lead you to paradise"
Im an atheist and watching that scene I was literally starting to believe Paul was the Lisan Al Gaib especially with the “Your mothers warned you of my coming”. And at the end when everyone’s chanting Lisan Al Gaib I almost got out of my seat and started chanting to then sat back down immediately reminding myself that I am watching a movie
Every great Sc-Fi ever made has its own unique sound. It's almost like a movie's ID card. "Predator", "Alien", "Terminator", "Star Wars" ect. Once you see the name to anyone of these films, you can instantly recall the vibe to it. "Dune 2" is the 1st Sc-Fi from recent memory to actually achieve this. The thumping, the score, that weird ass robot exposition quote in the beginning that sends chills down my spine will always come to the forefront when I hear/see the name Dune 2. And respectfully Dune in general.
Release the 5 hour cut
7 hour director’s cut
"Don't show too much worm".
Excellent life advice right there, awesome film analysis dude.
I saw Dune Part 2 in the Screen X format, meaning I had picture in front of me and on both sides, like 270 degrees visual surround. This scene brought me to tears from the sheer awe of what cinema can accomplish. I was riding the worm with Paul in that scene. With so many shots from “on the worm,” and sandy chaos literally surrounding me on three sides, I was there. I can’t compare it to any other movie-going experience.
💚 Denis & Hans poured their love into both movies, which is clear to see ... The worm scene took 40 days to film 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
These films were masterpieces. Not once did i ever feel like they didn't just film the whole thing on arrakis. Everything felt so tangible.
If there was ay doubt before that Denis Villeneuve was the heir apparent to Spielberg, his stinginess on showing the worms like the shark in Jaws and the dinosaurs in Jurassic Park drives it home completely.
I think he is also heir apparent to Christopher Nolan.
Homeboy needs to hang it up, Denis has been doing it better for basically a decade at this point.
The fight between K and Luv was crazy and so good. Far better than the fights with world ending stakes in other movies.
If this movie doesn't win Best Picture in every award show forthcoming then there's something wrong with those award shows. This film is a perfect film.
Hey red, how GOOD. Is this film really? Your honest humble
Opinion. in some youtube videos people are very mixed about it like others say this movie was garbage/trash boring and some parts strayed from the book. While others loved it so much and called it a masterpiece. I saw dune part 1 last night and must say wow im impressed. Im hoping going in to part 2 i want to have a satisfying experience. Saw the reviews of dune part 2 wow its probably the highest rated film for sci fi in YEARS. Is it really as good as empire strikes back as some would say it?
@@mco51193 really?!!🥰😱wow thx for the reply! Omg omg yes! Finally someone i can count on. yeah i keep hearing thst its the best sci fi in the last 20 years. And the lotr and star wars of our time. You know the most absurd comment some make is that they say the modern dune films are boring and trash and say it strays from the books and the antagonist sucks. and also claiming the 1984 version or the mini series are better.
Thats pretty absurd. I mean i saw the classic david lynch version and i will say its alright I guess 🤷🤨its not bad nor a masterpiece. but the special effects look really dated. Some would say its awful. What do you think
@@ukrainefighter2456 I haven't seen a single person saying that it's trash and boring. It is the single best sci-fi movie I've ever seen.
@@Bruh-el9js thats cool. But in some section in some TH-cam videos. You would see people saying that they prefer the old david lynch dune film from 1984 over the newer ones and say that movie was better. My reaction was😨🤦noo way, that movie was unique for its time but its in noo way better. Theres so many cheesy moments in that film and just looks comical in comparison to the denis version. What do you think? Have you seen the old dune movie or tv mini series?🤔
@@ukrainefighter2456 These people are gatekeepers who want to pretend that any big budget movie today is bad and that Cinema is dead. Don't listen to them. Lynch's movie is not nearly as good.
Can you please do a cinema of meaning discussion of Blade Runner 2049?? That’s one of my favorite movies and I would love your breakdown on it!
Cinema of Meaning stopped with the Dune 2 episode
Incredible. ...I didn't want to be invested in this movie. The genre isn't really for me and my husband is the one who's gotten me to watch them. That being said, watching at the theater I was IN this scene in spite of myself because of all of this tension. As the silence stretched out and the thumper felt intensified, I actually felt the anticipation and was sitting there just being blown away by the production. Being aware of my emotion around it I consciously thought, "Wow guys, well done."
It's pretty rare these days for me to be fully roped into a movie, but even this was such a fresh and interesting experience that Denis Villeneuve officially has my attention and major admiration.
Thanks so much for breaking this down. You always take my existing wonderment and elevate it to new levels of amazed!
Good art transcends genre. I don't have to be a country music fan to know that Johnny Cash's version of Nine Inch Nails' "Hurt" was a masterpiece.
@@rikk319 💯 so well said!!
For me, the sound when the worm first surfaces and crashes into the dune is flawless. Scratches a certain part of my brain.
I like the sandworm ride scene as well. One thing though, when the sandworm crashes through the dune that Paul is standing on, Paul runs towards the chasm created by the worm, but it takes him a while to get there. It seems like when he finally jumps through the chasm the worm would already be gone, at best he would catch the tail end of it. Maybe worms are a lot bigger than I think they are, but my perception of worm size is what is given to me by the movie. Either way I think what makes this scene tense is that if Paul fails he could end up being buried alive. Scary stuff.
When i saw this scene at the theater, and after i picked up my jaw, i was thinking what your hot take would be.
This have nothing to do with this video, but i have to say: I really hope they gave Oscar Isaac his portrait as Duke Leto Atreides... the one that is burned on the pile of dead Atreides. It's such a beautiful painting of the man...
I was so emotional when seeing this scene in IMAX on my second viewing, it was epic, surreal, and once in a lifetime.
I don't want to be rude, but I feel like all the points in this video could have been covered very well in 6-8 minutes. It feels dragged out to me. I'm realizing the point well before you get there, and when you do, you spend so much time on it that I get impatient.
The Imperium's year zero is roughly 10,000 from now. Which sets Dune approximately 20,000 years into our future. Zero Year marks the moment when the Padishah Emperor first granted the Spacing Guild a total monopoly over all space-based travel in the Known Universe.
Can we just give this movie 10 academy awards already. No need to wait.
Never clicked on a video so fast in my life. I’ve seen all of Thomas’s Dune 1 videos at least twice.
When I saw this scene in the cinema, I was already hoping for videos highlighting how fantastic it was. The lack of music, the amount of dust thrown at the camera, the actual struggle taking place, is a masterclass in grounding a character and bringing the entire story closer to the audiences. Easily my favorite scene of the two films as well!
At this point, I really feel like Denis Velleneuve might be the only director right now who could make a successful large-scale historical epic.
I think Nolan’s the only one right there at his level.
@@ChaosMarine9118 Nolan's been off his game for 8 years. Denis is heir apparent to Nolan imo, he's been doing what Nolan does, but better, for a decade.
Yep, it is a shame that Bryan Singer kicked himself out of the circle - the second Xmen movie was quite impressive. I wonder where he would have ended up, without dedicating his life to sex, drugs and very questionable choices.
One of the best movies I’ve ever seen in my life, and one of the best scenes from it.
Great video dude!
you discussing the similarity between GoPro extreme sports footage and falling onto the worm reminds me of Laura Marks' haptic visuality theory. Also the documentaries of Verena Paravel & Lucien Castaing-Taylor like 'Leviathan'
I HATED Oppenheimer because of the score. After 15mm, I had vertigo. After 1 hour, I fainted. It was pure torture, noooooon stoooop…. Dune was such a relief…
Y'all still meet riding this movie. It's pure style over substance.
Ok
Cool effects, decent cinematography, but there was no tension we all knew he’d ride the worm so overall great effects but it fell flat. The music peaked and it was like telling me I should feel victorious but I didn’t, I felt yeah that looked cool not wow I was worried he may not make it but he somehow pulled it off. The whole movie was like that to me lol
why 10k years in the future? it's 10k years after the founding of the spacing guild, which itself was at least 11,000 years after the advent of deep space travel.
I thought this scene was good, though I felt that both of the films were massively overrated. Some of the sets and scenes felt so lazy, like an empty hangar with a single ornithopter dead in the middle or the cut garden from Arrakeen.
The dune movies are our Lord of The Rings. I will cherish them and show them off to my kids and grand kids until i die. Truly incredibly film making.
I must have accidentally moved from another dimension. What's up with everyone praising this movie, I wasn't that let down by one in a long while.
It was such a disappointment of a film. Such incoherent spectacle and so disappointing following the first one
Seeing the whole movie but especially this scene in IMAX was one of the most incredible theatrical experiences I've ever had.
My god. My hair was in the air.
How do you get off the Worm though? Denis won't answer my emails