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Hey Thew, just your friendly neighborhood Toyhax representative stoppin’ by! Here’s what’s up with the weapons: Wingspan’s horizontal tabs peg into the robot mode hip slots when in bird mode, just rotate those cubes upward. Pounce’s weapon slots at the back of the guns are to peg onto the puma mode’s shoulders. And as a couple people have pointed out before, the holes on the tail bits are for flight stands to plug into. Hope this helps!
Masterpiece Armada Megatron will be the best. Like, I appreciated the Armada recolor and alternate head for Combiner Wars Megatron, it's amazing, but a Masterpiece of GIANT ALIEN SUPER TANK will be something else. Though...the problem with doing Masterpieces of the Unicron Trilogy is that Masterpiece is all about "get the toy to look like the cartoon" and the Unicron Trilogy is all "let's just use the toys as the exact character design". So is it really necessary?
Personally, I'd love to see this gimmick in reverse; two identical alt modes with wildly different robot modes. Like, two identical T-rexes, but one of them does a Dinobot and the other does a BW Megatron
3:10 - Oh dear... It just hit me what unexpectedly chilling subjects for a Halloween review these two would make. "Come play with us, Thew... Come play with us... Forever... and ever... and ever." "Gotta love how they fold out to reveal glorious purple plumage..." The plumage don't enter into it. It's stone-dead.
I have a thing for z-list mooks, and it doesn't get any more z-list than these guys. They look like default create-a-decepticons and I love them for it.
Ya know, the whole "exact same robot mode" thing can be used for some rather clever mind games. (Pounce has a grenade and the Autobots know it's Pounce that has it) Sideswipe: Ok, Pounce. HANDS WHERE I CAN SEE 'EM! *Wingspan raises his hands up* "Pounce": OK, OK, YA GOT ME! Sideswipe: All right...Slowly give me the grenade, Pounce, NOW. Actual Pounce: If ya say so! *Pounce chucks the grenade at Sideswipe and blows him away* Wingspan: PSYCH! *The two laugh and high-five*
I'm rewatching this review because of the Target exclusive re-release that just got revealed. I was on the fence on them but after Watching Thew have so much fun in this video I'll probably get them if I can find them in person. I've always loved there colors which is why I got the Botcon Vehicon repaints from 2014.
The clones are so dumb, clunky, and conceptually 80s that I love them completely. They are a great update to a lousy original, and great for collectors, or kids with an affinity for retro concepts. Y'know, like if a kid in the 90s was into Dick Tracy or something.
I went a little bit crazy with the clones. I managed to get the two boxsets before they sold out and picked up the two pack but just in case I also got the Takara releases as well. Then for some reason I picked up a second set of Takara releases. So I have three of each figure. The Hasbro releases are the original pairs while the two sets of Takara releases are their slightly off color clone army. So I guess I took clones a different way. Instead of them being clones of each other with different alt modes, they're twins with different alt modes each with their own clones. It just all goes along with some of the rest of my collection. Anytime I have a good voyager or ultra sized character who also has a good deluxe counterpart, I get multiples of the deluxe to act as drones of the larger figure. CW/UW Cyclonus with a bunch of Universe, Generations and Henkei Cyclonus'. TR/LG Galvatron with U/H/Hasbro Asia/Platinum Galvatrons. ROTF voyager Bludgeon with ROTF deluxe Bludgeon. T30 Brainstorm with an army of TR/LG/SDCC Brainstorms. Universe Hardhead with TR Hardhead. T30 FOC Grimlock with Classics Grimlock. T30 Springer with both GDO and SDCC Springer drones. TR Astrotrain with Classics Astrotrain and so on. I even have two Classics voyager Jetfire to go with T30 leader Jetfire. The idea obviously started with Cyclonus, Scourge and Galvatron having drones made of each other by Unicron then spread from there. The other Decepticons are also agents of Unicron while the Autobots are knights of Primus to combat them.
I'm going to be completely honest, the only reason I care about these two in any capacity is because of Sixshot killing them in Headmasters, more specifically in the English dub where he just politely apologizes to their corpses for murdering them.
OMG, the moment from 01:00 to 01:07 made me chuckle bit till seeing moment from 01:25 to 01:39 which made me to chuckle again. XD I wonder were you feeling dirty after you did that ultimate collector expression. Though personality I would prefer Hasbro's release of TR Autobot and Decepticon Clones; all I would need is both TR exclusive sets plus TR Clones 2-figure Pack not only to get both clone teams but also ready TR collection.
They should totally be the first actual clone army. Just like poor bastard Cybertronians that the Decepticons kidnapped and just factory rebuilt into troops. Like Fulcrum from the Scavangers.
It would be interesting if these guys were used in a series as a single episode villain where the Autobots struggle to beat them because they can't tell who's who and their alt modes are used to beat the autobots.
I was actually planning on getting this set too :) I love the modern legends class toys, they're Takara, and they're Decepticons (because there's always room for more of them) so yeah I think I need them too lol another great review Thew :D
I’m glad I got this set! Love these guys! Never had the G1s. I mean yeah, they’re not “exact” beast modes, but they definitely pull it off better than the G1 versions & with poseability.
That ending spiel regarding whether people really needed new Clones is probably *why* Hasbro put Fastlane and Pounce in the box sets. On their own they're not up to much, but packed in with Laser Prime/Quickswitch/Nautica and Ginrai/Tidal Wave/Metalhawk respectively, they're a lot more appetising. Certainly, if I'd had the funds at the time, I would've got them for those larger figures. Cloudraker and Wingspan being packed together was mostly due to other box sets being cancelled, but selling them together meant they were more likely to be grabbed by people that did have the box sets for completionist purposes.
HUG ME BROTHA Oh man, I forgot about these. I wanted these. And this video, this is some next level stuff. “They’re presenting a fantasy, and I am living it.” But I think that tail hole is just the stand h- THERE’S A SILVERBOLT MODE?!!?!
When the boxed sets with the other brother were coming out, I just couldn't convince myself to pay that much for a scout-sized figure. Instead I got a lucky deal on an ebay auction for both twins & punch/counterpunch. And I gotta say, I like the G1 versions more. Sure they don't have the nice posing options of the new versions, but they're bigger, the plastic feels sturdier, the alt modes seem more cohesive, and there's less hollow body gaps. I did later get the Walgreens 2pack so I've handled the new versions of 50% of the twins for comparison. I also find it amusing that I've passed on the Takara releases because of the color pink. The deceptitwins didn't have enough pink and I felt the autotwins had too much pink to their bodies.
Barry:I'll wait for the Japanese release. Larry:I'll buy one at Target today cause there's a discount. Garry:I'll buy one at the closest illegal China shop. Me:I'll just stick with Studio series...
Compared to the original G1 versions the beast modes are quite a it better, plus the extra articulation, plus cheaper. I do wonder what those extra knobs and sockets are through.
Dude. Transdermal Celebration! And it's the Devin Townsend cover as well! Dude! Between that, the regular subtle Homestar references, the Transformers themselves, and your band's cover of Giant Woman, I've determined that we like the same things and therefore we should be best friends. Can I be your best friend?
So, if you check inside the box for legends Pounce and Wingspan, there's a little sheet indicating a misprint on the instructions - they swapped around the photos of Pounce and Wingspan in robot mode! No word of a lie, you can see their back kibble in the photos.
Base bucks they could make into different alts? Sure. The concept was a cool idea. The story they gave is as exciting as Thew made it sound, but I can always explain these small batch per gimmick sub-lines as wartime tinkering.
"Truly impressive dick move" Truer words have never been spoken😂 And "Did the world really need a new Pounce and Wingspan?" I didn't grow up with this shit, and I still bought into them, so, yes.
Alright, I will just say it, I like 'em... They're basic soldier boys with that squarish 80's bot modes I like. I wanna see an army of these doods layin' siege to an Autobot base!
It's a transformers themed rehash of the song "Transdermal Celebration" By the band Ween. I figure if you liked that you'll probably like the original :).
Yeah, I bought the mismatch one... And I wish they sold the other two in a mismatch box?! Now all I can do is buy them separately or buy the japanese version and get a duplicate
I was going to leave a comment about how I loved these guys as a kid, and hated that Hasbro split them up to sell them. Aaaaaand then the song hit and made me stare at the crap on my shelf for more time than I should have.
I definitely had the itchy horn for these essentially pointless additions to my plastic crack den. I don't know why i like them so much either, but as soon as they were announced I bloody needed them. I like the fact they are legend scale and can give the Autobot legends a shoeing.
Hey Thew, just your friendly neighborhood Toyhax representative stoppin’ by! Here’s what’s up with the weapons: Wingspan’s horizontal tabs peg into the robot mode hip slots when in bird mode, just rotate those cubes upward. Pounce’s weapon slots at the back of the guns are to peg onto the puma mode’s shoulders. And as a couple people have pointed out before, the holes on the tail bits are for flight stands to plug into. Hope this helps!
Let's break out our thumbs and get this comment to the top! 👍👍👍
"anything's a melee weapon if you're mad enough"
That's Plato level truth there man.
I laughed my ass off at that
it's kinda like the melee version of a saying i came up with: "anything can be a deadly projectile if you throw it hard enough."
George Kamajian no no that’s the motto of the Doom Slayer
George Kamajian just like how anything is a meme if you’re dumb enough
Sun tzu said that!! And I think he knows more about fighting than you do pal, cause he invented it!!!!
Pounce and Wingspan are Sixshot's kids with Weirdwolf and Cutthroat? Wow, Thew, you really are gonna miss IDW.
UH WHAT NOW?!?!
*.....*
@@imperialbricks1977 It's a joke. It's not actually canon, I just said it because it does sound like an IDW thing.
"Wingspan is also looking considerably HAWKward"....
God dammit I love this man.
Anything's a melee weapon if you're mad enough. - Thew Adams, 2018
Pounce’s chest logo makes him look like a Thundercat
And Wingspan is a rogue Silverhawk
Thunder Thunder Thunder Thunder-Pounce!
I can't wait for when we get to the point when we start getting masterpiece figures from the Unicron trilogy.
Masterpiece Demolisher
Personally I'd like cybertron hotshot. That blue sports car is a childhood favorite!
Masterpiece armada Starscream and demolishor would be tiiiiiiits awesome
Armada Optimus with actual articulation!
Masterpiece Armada Megatron will be the best. Like, I appreciated the Armada recolor and alternate head for Combiner Wars Megatron, it's amazing, but a Masterpiece of GIANT ALIEN SUPER TANK will be something else.
Though...the problem with doing Masterpieces of the Unicron Trilogy is that Masterpiece is all about "get the toy to look like the cartoon" and the Unicron Trilogy is all "let's just use the toys as the exact character design". So is it really necessary?
Personally, I'd love to see this gimmick in reverse; two identical alt modes with wildly different robot modes. Like, two identical T-rexes, but one of them does a Dinobot and the other does a BW Megatron
Well there’s sideswipe and sunstreaker
3:10 - Oh dear... It just hit me what unexpectedly chilling subjects for a Halloween review these two would make.
"Come play with us, Thew... Come play with us... Forever... and ever... and ever."
"Gotta love how they fold out to reveal glorious purple plumage..."
The plumage don't enter into it. It's stone-dead.
4:22 When I heard that Ween parody, I was Impressed that somebody knows more than one song by them.
“Anything’s a weapon if you’re mad enough.” ~Thew Adams
A basics episode from Chris AND a Thew review IN THE SAME DAY?!?! Lord have mercy!
You saw them too!?
Hell yeah man! Clones *and* the Wreckers! What a treat!
And Quickswitch
I have a thing for z-list mooks, and it doesn't get any more z-list than these guys.
They look like default create-a-decepticons and I love them for it.
I missed “Doppelbängers” the first time round. Genius.
"Recteagle" sounds like a really disturbing medical condition for which you'd need both a doctor _and_ a vet to resolve... O_o
Whoaaa dude that Ween cover. Didn't expect that, Transdermal Celebration is one of my favorites!
That Headmasters shirt is so awesome!
Ya know, the whole "exact same robot mode" thing can be used for some rather clever mind games.
(Pounce has a grenade and the Autobots know it's Pounce that has it)
Sideswipe: Ok, Pounce. HANDS WHERE I CAN SEE 'EM!
*Wingspan raises his hands up*
"Pounce": OK, OK, YA GOT ME!
Sideswipe: All right...Slowly give me the grenade, Pounce, NOW.
Actual Pounce: If ya say so!
*Pounce chucks the grenade at Sideswipe and blows him away*
Wingspan: PSYCH!
*The two laugh and high-five*
Thank you for spelling "psych" correctly.
I'm rewatching this review because of the Target exclusive re-release that just got revealed. I was on the fence on them but after Watching Thew have so much fun in this video I'll probably get them if I can find them in person. I've always loved there colors which is why I got the Botcon Vehicon repaints from 2014.
The clones are so dumb, clunky, and conceptually 80s that I love them completely. They are a great update to a lousy original, and great for collectors, or kids with an affinity for retro concepts. Y'know, like if a kid in the 90s was into Dick Tracy or something.
There was a Dick Tracy movie made in the 90's, and I was all over it as a kid.
"Now I'm PRUNE TRACY!"
I expected him to mention Thundercats when he was talking about their chest logos.
Instead we get a Tekken reference
@@zerochi2119 Gotta go for the obscure option for those Nerd Points. :P
@@fishpop _of course ~_
This is an interesting concept, seeing how the same basic character can go two different ways
Another great and entertaining review! Glad to see someone talk about these two also, was kinda curious how they were.
I wish each side got 3 or 4 to push an implied mass produced body they quickly modded to have different modes as needed
Always imagined these two as being Sixshot's henchmen.
Digging that tune at 4.20. That needs to be the theme for every transformers toy advert from now on. Lol!
I went a little bit crazy with the clones. I managed to get the two boxsets before they sold out and picked up the two pack but just in case I also got the Takara releases as well. Then for some reason I picked up a second set of Takara releases. So I have three of each figure. The Hasbro releases are the original pairs while the two sets of Takara releases are their slightly off color clone army. So I guess I took clones a different way. Instead of them being clones of each other with different alt modes, they're twins with different alt modes each with their own clones.
It just all goes along with some of the rest of my collection. Anytime I have a good voyager or ultra sized character who also has a good deluxe counterpart, I get multiples of the deluxe to act as drones of the larger figure. CW/UW Cyclonus with a bunch of Universe, Generations and Henkei Cyclonus'. TR/LG Galvatron with U/H/Hasbro Asia/Platinum Galvatrons. ROTF voyager Bludgeon with ROTF deluxe Bludgeon. T30 Brainstorm with an army of TR/LG/SDCC Brainstorms. Universe Hardhead with TR Hardhead. T30 FOC Grimlock with Classics Grimlock. T30 Springer with both GDO and SDCC Springer drones. TR Astrotrain with Classics Astrotrain and so on. I even have two Classics voyager Jetfire to go with T30 leader Jetfire. The idea obviously started with Cyclonus, Scourge and Galvatron having drones made of each other by Unicron then spread from there. The other Decepticons are also agents of Unicron while the Autobots are knights of Primus to combat them.
Funny enough, Sixshot already has a kid: Quickswitch
I still don’t wanna know how robots have kids 😬
I’m still amazed that Quickswitch isn’t a Japanese character.
I mean maybe two of them just take a piece of each of their sparks and combine them into a new spark
Or those coboners and vagina ports are what they says they are and every time they combine it’s like having sex
Watch Goldran
Budding
5:12 Hawkward.. amazing. Had me laughing for ages. I'm picking these two up!
I'm going to be completely honest, the only reason I care about these two in any capacity is because of Sixshot killing them in Headmasters, more specifically in the English dub where he just politely apologizes to their corpses for murdering them.
Just picked up the Earthrise 2 pack of Pounce and Wingspan. Now I can resell the lone Wingspan from the Walgreens 2 pack.
1:29 not gonna lie, I love that jacket :D
I could see these in the background of every video and I was waiting for a review
OMG, the moment from 01:00 to 01:07 made me chuckle bit till seeing moment from 01:25 to 01:39 which made me to chuckle again. XD I wonder were you feeling dirty after you did that ultimate collector expression. Though personality I would prefer Hasbro's release of TR Autobot and Decepticon Clones; all I would need is both TR exclusive sets plus TR Clones 2-figure Pack not only to get both clone teams but also ready TR collection.
Thank you for always making me laugh while at the same time truly enjoying a marvelous review. 👍
They should totally be the first actual clone army. Just like poor bastard Cybertronians that the Decepticons kidnapped and just factory rebuilt into troops. Like Fulcrum from the Scavangers.
These little bastards that I saw in an Earthrise two pack isn't even a retool!? DAMNIT HASBRO!
what needs retooling tho? they're perfect ❤
No but they are the Takara versions like he has in the video
Honestly the wait between episodes well worth it just for the alliteration that he does it's so good
*THE FATHER HAS RETURNED!*
These are great. Pounce's animal kibble does fold up a bit better in the back though.
It would be interesting if these guys were used in a series as a single episode villain where the Autobots struggle to beat them because they can't tell who's who and their alt modes are used to beat the autobots.
I was actually planning on getting this set too :) I love the modern legends class toys, they're Takara, and they're Decepticons (because there's always room for more of them) so yeah I think I need them too lol another great review Thew :D
God I wish I picked them up I only have Hasbros’ wingspan. Great review, thew
The hole on the end of Pounce's tail and the one on top of Wingspan's are for 3mm flight stand pegs, BTW.
I’m glad I got this set! Love these guys! Never had the G1s. I mean yeah, they’re not “exact” beast modes, but they definitely pull it off better than the G1 versions & with poseability.
Nice Ween cover
That ending spiel regarding whether people really needed new Clones is probably *why* Hasbro put Fastlane and Pounce in the box sets. On their own they're not up to much, but packed in with Laser Prime/Quickswitch/Nautica and Ginrai/Tidal Wave/Metalhawk respectively, they're a lot more appetising. Certainly, if I'd had the funds at the time, I would've got them for those larger figures.
Cloudraker and Wingspan being packed together was mostly due to other box sets being cancelled, but selling them together meant they were more likely to be grabbed by people that did have the box sets for completionist purposes.
Excellent service as usual TA..
HUG ME BROTHA
Oh man, I forgot about these. I wanted these. And this video, this is some next level stuff. “They’re presenting a fantasy, and I am living it.” But I think that tail hole is just the stand h- THERE’S A SILVERBOLT MODE?!!?!
When the boxed sets with the other brother were coming out, I just couldn't convince myself to pay that much for a scout-sized figure. Instead I got a lucky deal on an ebay auction for both twins & punch/counterpunch. And I gotta say, I like the G1 versions more. Sure they don't have the nice posing options of the new versions, but they're bigger, the plastic feels sturdier, the alt modes seem more cohesive, and there's less hollow body gaps. I did later get the Walgreens 2pack so I've handled the new versions of 50% of the twins for comparison.
I also find it amusing that I've passed on the Takara releases because of the color pink. The deceptitwins didn't have enough pink and I felt the autotwins had too much pink to their bodies.
I got mine at Nor-Con last month. Love em :) Gotta Toyhax them up though
I know I'm late to the party.. but I'm totally here for that beautiful for Ween cover!
Amazing Ween cover, Thew!
Barry:I'll wait for the Japanese release.
Larry:I'll buy one at Target today cause there's a discount.
Garry:I'll buy one at the closest illegal China shop.
Me:I'll just stick with Studio series...
I guess so...
2:28 No, actually, Pounce seems really into the Thundercats.
Probably the second one. No way Thew would miss out on such an easy reference.
At least you got these waves around you
Compared to the original G1 versions the beast modes are quite a it better, plus the extra articulation, plus cheaper. I do wonder what those extra knobs and sockets are through.
Dude. Transdermal Celebration! And it's the Devin Townsend cover as well! Dude! Between that, the regular subtle Homestar references, the Transformers themselves, and your band's cover of Giant Woman, I've determined that we like the same things and therefore we should be best friends. Can I be your best friend?
whoa Thew, nice one, also, you must share your photo setup, because, try as i might, i never have photos that crisp!
A riotous good romp through your top gears Mr Thew, Rollicking stuff sailor.
Please do a challenge involving Dutch triple-salted licorice.
So, if you check inside the box for legends Pounce and Wingspan, there's a little sheet indicating a misprint on the instructions - they swapped around the photos of Pounce and Wingspan in robot mode! No word of a lie, you can see their back kibble in the photos.
liking these little skits
That face sculpt/paint scheme looks like a cross between a Star Wars stormtrooper and one of the police officer androids from THX-1138
Thew-dermal Celebration!
What? The alt modes are god damn adorable and waaay fun to mess with.
The tail hole, could it be for those tiny weapons the Prime masters can use? It looks about the right size.
I gotten those in an earthrise package. I wished the arms tabbed in place.
And then they got rereleased together in Earthrise WHEEEEEE
Lol just picked them up today
@@silhouettoofaman2935 Just picked mine up today!
Base bucks they could make into different alts? Sure. The concept was a cool idea. The story they gave is as exciting as Thew made it sound, but I can always explain these small batch per gimmick sub-lines as wartime tinkering.
Always thought these guy's were affiliated with Sixshot.
Six shot killed them in headmasters
@@ionacustoyreviews857 They got better.
Is the idea that the Clones are supposed to resemble G1 Twin Twist for infiltration? I’m sure that’s a thing. Great vid, great jacket! 😂
Oh the G1 toys we all wish we hadn't sold...
Siege has got me hyped tho I mean those toys look spectacular imo, anyways awesome review thew 👍👍👍
hey Thew! walmart over here across the pond has reissues or g1 hot rod and star scream!
The slots and tabs on the weapons are probably for alt mode storage
God, this review was more hilarious than usual
I definitely love this set, I got them off good old Bisto at TFNation,
I need to get the Toyhax weapons
HOLY FUCK TRANSDERMAL CELEBRATION REFERENCE THIS IS WHY I LOVE YOU THEW
"Truly impressive dick move"
Truer words have never been spoken😂
And "Did the world really need a new Pounce and Wingspan?"
I didn't grow up with this shit, and I still bought into them, so, yes.
How much are these and where can I get them and the autoblokes?
Keep up the awesome vids Thewbot
same reason i needed their Autobot Counter parts
Alright, I will just say it, I like 'em... They're basic soldier boys with that squarish 80's bot modes I like. I wanna see an army of these doods layin' siege to an Autobot base!
pounce has a good taste in music
Okay. That song at 4:25. Please make that a thing I can download on iTunes or somewhere.
It's a transformers themed rehash of the song "Transdermal Celebration" By the band Ween. I figure if you liked that you'll probably like the original :).
I gather Devin Townsend covered it as well, but surely the credit at the end of the video should go to Ween?
welllllll, probably, but the actual track I used was the Devin Townsend version
After an extensive 2 and a half minute research I still like Thew's lyrics better. Make it so.
the tiny holes are for figure stands
Yeah, I bought the mismatch one... And I wish they sold the other two in a mismatch box?! Now all I can do is buy them separately or buy the japanese version and get a duplicate
Love your vids man
i bought the walgreens pak with wingspan and cloudracker
Now you get to buy them all over again with the Earth Rise release! 😃
6:35 See, Anything can be a combiner If you have enough Imagination.
I've got you for you Mr thew!
I was going to leave a comment about how I loved these guys as a kid, and hated that Hasbro split them up to sell them. Aaaaaand then the song hit and made me stare at the crap on my shelf for more time than I should have.
I definitely had the itchy horn for these essentially pointless additions to my plastic crack den. I don't know why i like them so much either, but as soon as they were announced I bloody needed them. I like the fact they are legend scale and can give the Autobot legends a shoeing.
*insert rick and morty two brothers reference*
Finally, I was hoping I'd find someone else who got it!
Nice Review!
Cheeky Transdermal Celebrations there
With earthrise hasbro seems to have figured out put things i want in a box.
Hey thew! Nice video,keep ip the good work!