The Streamer has been reported to both Twitch and the DBD Developers, Since his face is shown I'm not willing to be the cause of a potential witch hunt and the consequences I hate cheaters just as much as you do trust me.
Respect man. I just never understood how someone can get consistent enjoyment cheating or exploiting. It Takes away what makes online games fun, challenging yourself against others
I will be 1000% honest the spirit plays was like well... with some luck ya know maybe... the survivor though wow that was obvious ( internal paranoia sets in )
Obvious cheaters are obnoxious as hell but at least they're trying to make a humorous situation. Subtle cheaters are the biggest losers on the planet. I hate having to question all players i go against on if they're cheating or not
True. When cheaters are obvious at least everyone knows not to take it serious because there is literally NOTHING to be done. When cheaters are subtle, everyone in the match is under the impression that everyone is trying relatively hard and the cheater unfairly "wins" without anyone knowing they lost unfairly.
@@tahajapanese1331 you should take that as a compliment honestly. You’re hitting such insane shots that they think you’re hacking. That happened to me when I got retribution 4 times in a game as nurse and just one blinked onto the survivors.
"at least they're trying to make a humorous situation", no they're trying to get attention by griefing 4 other random people in the process. I don't know why blatant cheaters get a pass from the DBD community because they think they're "funny".
@@neil2451it’s not a pass it’s everyone knows they’re cheating so no one is taking it seriously but with subtle cheaters everyone is treating it like a regular game
It really is. I can understand lowering it for easier achievements or archives, like doing totems/opening chests against a sweatlord Nurse no way, but against lesser killers you'd have more time to get your objective done and leave. But deranking to bully is really messed up. The problem is there's no incentive to "climb" in the hidden MMR, you just get more sweat and less BP if you get camped/tunnelled/gen rushed early so why escape via gates/take the 3k? Until this changes and the game is fun to play in high ELO as well as low, this will continue to happen unfortunately. Some players will always be dicks but when the path to victory is via scummy tactics like tunnelling/gen rushing or other broken shit, I can see why some players don't want to be apart of high MMR and want more relaxing games instead.
I didn’t think the spirit was cheating until she managed to find the Leon, Nea, and Alan in the endgame. Finding the Alan being the most sus since he was no where near an exit gate.
@@JoaoPeligrozo Yeah, your "body" doesn't dissapear if you phase, you only become invisible and fast which is why survivors can still blind you. Edit: As @TheOGRecipe pointed out however you do lose collission, your husk you leave behind does have collission though allowing you to block pallets and vaults if you leave it there.
13:54 "After these 1v1s, even his friends in chat say he was cheating" French guy here, the chat doesn't mention cheating in the clip. Here are the messages translated: "I see that you're getting trolled" "How are you?" "Doing fine" "I'm lazy brother" "I'm on overwatch atm" "You play vs trapper?" (spelling mistake here) "versus*" I'm not saying he's not cheating but the information delivered here is incorrect.
11:35 this is the moment that sealed it for me. Kate had no indication he was doubling back and stopped so early even though she would have died if he kept holding w. Someone that is that confident on their "reads" is definitely wallhacking.
unironically you can heartbeat read shack pretty easily and do things like that lol. but there were so many other clips where they were blatantly playing like they were staring at a red rectangle through walls (because they were)
not only cheating, but it is especially bad in game like DBD... In Dota/LoL you can dive fountain and trashtalk In shooting game you can teabag and trashtalk In COOP game you can ruin the game and got kicked most of the times In DBD, you can have bully squad, teabag, teammate that lead killer to you, not doing anything but just hide, sandbag you, give up on hook, or killer than slug everyone on the ground because he need 4k Now to think about it, maybe survivor players are worse
At 5:45 he even looks at the second door while phasing. But at 7:35 he says that he has a very good headset (for those who don't understand french), so we don't know, maybe he can use echolocation to find survivors like a submarine x)
Yes he was clearly cheating but Iooking at the second gate might be nothing. When the gates power I quickly look around to see where the other gate is if I am not sure where it is and then go back to what I was doing. It’s just a quick way to understand your endgame and see where someone might potentially be. Like I said they were deff cheating.
this is hilarious to me, as I remember very clearly that "echolocation" is not a real possible skill for humans to have. This has been tested by the speedrunning community when checking on "blind" speedruns for false runs, and they have concluded that you cannot make 'good' judgements from sound alone (please don't ask for sources, it'll take me a little bit to find it).
There’s one thing that I noticed, whenever an action was completed like a gen, hooking, saves, his eyes were glued in one direction when normally as a killer you’d be looking around.
@@abubaytnighan6480cheaters play both killers and survivors but on killer it’s almost impossible to tell unless they are blatant zooming around. They can aim both huntress ax or make it so they are god on blight or nurse, the cheat will make it so they re using their left power but just ar pro high play
I don't agree with your vision about: "once a cheater always a cheater", I agree that some people will always be like that, but not everyone, sm ppl really regrets their own actions and grow mentally with that decision.
@@hens333 That's a big oof, I run into babies every few games. It feels so bad trying the same way I did against the SWF that almost beat me last game and realizing I have 6 hooks at 5 gens and they have no progress. Sadako is a knowledge counter killer so I let them reset if they're doing too badly and it feels like they're noobs.
@@KevinKGGamerWhat he meant about "once a cheater always a cheater" is that if he cheated once, there's nothing stopping him from doing it again, not that he doesn't regret it, but he can do it again whenever he wants.
The way he found him at 6:39 is absolutely unbelievable. The phase from the opposite side of main, threw main, then directly onto him would be considered a massive stroke of luck if he hadn’t been doing that the whole game.
Yeah, can definitely tell from the survivor pov @ 9:42 a normal survivor would use checkspots and look into the direction where the red mark may appear, this guy was simply looking at walls, you can see it by camera movement.
We played against a streaming huntress who has the most cracked shots on the planet and sniping people across the map through the corn, checked her vod out later since she didn't have much in the way of aura reading and she'd exclaim really excitedly like "ooh there they are" and get an insane snipe. On her end, blown up on my 55" TV and highest resolution, cannot see even a hint of a survivor. This happened throughout the entire game. Thankfully though I think they actually got banned, lots of clips from my swf and her vod piled up with a report and they stopped streaming a few days later only to come back two weeks later "trying out dbd on console" with a new account
Aim bot and wall hacks isn’t detected by dbd so unless someone had actual proof she didn’t get banned 💀. Unless in other games she started zooming around and flying.
Just something to keep in mind is that Twitch (especially while live) and youtube use really heavy compression. Small details that are obvious to the naked eye (like a sliver of neon blue hair next to a very dark area in the video) can easily be lost. Sounds unlikely in that case, but e.g. the Nea in the video could've been because of that.
@@Timothee_Chalamet_CMBYN most games that don't have a highly invasive anti-cheat can't detect client side cheats yeah, so a lot of FPS games will ban cheaters based on "soft" evidence of wall hacks and aim bots, and i hope bhvr uses that approach as well. it helps that wallhacks and aim bots are really easy to tell, especially if they're used together.
What is that bullshit about letting him get away with it coz he said he wouldn't do it again... of course he will, he is a cheater, and a bully. Turn in the evidence, make his identity public and make him get permabanned, the only solution for people like this is that the punishment hurts
I wonder how cheaters enjoy gaming knowing they are A: ruining the fun of others playing the game, B: necessitating an outside cheating tool to even be in the same level of those players and C: trivializing the game in such manner that they need to either troll or pretend not having cheats to have the slightest of fun (I am not talking about [possible] cheaters like in the video, just cheaters in general btw)
Cheaters are 1 of 2 ppl or both. 1. Those survivors that get tunneled and told to “get Gud, it’s not the killer’s job to make sure the survivor has fun, I don’t follow your little survivor rule book”. 2. The killer who sucks and can only get 2 unique hooks before gates power on and get teabagged at gates and is met in endgame chat with “GGez, baby killer, you thought”. They went to the dark side and now they are having tons more fun than what I said above.
@@kj117br5 It's usually just a power trip, they just like having more power and control over other people. It's almost always that simple. There's a million different mental gymnastics they use to justify cheating. Many look at normal players as losers for caring and trying in a video game. Some are literally just there because they enjoy ruining other players' experiences.
the most popular cheating tool in dbd does have a "streamer mode" where it will hide all of the cheats and hud elements, but still be visible for you on your screen and they definitely have ESP to have a square box outline and title tag above it, wherever the survivor is, where if they just had perma full aura reading, it would still dissapear when being blinded or phasing, it's so blatant when they perfectly track
lmaoo seeing that clip I had with the dwight was so unexpected. Great vid Hens as always. I was smh the whole time especially during the survivor chases it was blatant!
I find it hard to believe a spirit can track people that well (basically perfectly), yet can't do basic mindgames at pallets and plays generally like a noob. Guy definitely has the better gaming chair here.
As a dbd player, i'm pissed to see cheaters and hackers everywhere, it ruins the fun of everyone. And as a french, i'm upset to see dummies such as this guy ruining what's left of the reputation of the french community. We were already mocked for no reason by a part of the dbd community. He doesn't improve the situation. I do not care if he stops cheating from what i see, he has been cheating for quite some time and as such he should get his ban. Anyway, props to you hens and your friends to have found that he was indeed cheating and for confronting him.
So here’s the thing about cheaters, subtle ones and blatant ones get banned. Doesn't matter how subtle you are, if you change your heal speed or running speed even by 1%, EAC will detect and you will get banned in a week or so. HOWEVER, wall hacks isn’t detected by the anti cheat AT ALL, it’s like those mods that people do to make make their characters and perks look cartoony or all colorful like in the video , it’s happening on your side only for you to see and not detected unlike zooming or flying etc. It's a similar thing with aimbot, Killers only need these two undetected cheats to be pro at killer and can’t be called out easily like a cheating survivor.
@@Timothee_Chalamet_CMBYN hmm i suppose that does make logical sense. it's harder to detect reading restricted memory than it is to detect actually modifying it. then a 3rd party program can re-display that memory in the form of an overlay showing the killer etc.
@@dandbd1748 now that’s just false, dbd doesn’t even send “ban reports”. All their response is the same generic message about appropriate action being taken. I’ve been reported for hostage holding ( friend and I hid for like 40 mins lol) and I got a warning about it and just had to acknowledge it, that person would’ve still gotten that auto Message tho.
@@InfInityNoir true! didn't even watch that far when I commented. I just play a lot of spirit and instantly realized that...looking around mid phase doesn't do much, y'know? 😂 finding Alan the first time might be pure luck tho, happened to me a few times where I came out of phase and randomly had a survivor in front of me. the survivor gameplay is insane tho, the walling is so obvious. with spirit you could make the case that she is very loud and you can hear where she is, but the bubba was wild
12:37-12:41 you can tell he sees Bubba through the wall. He has no info on which way Bubba went and then last millisecond decides to turn away from pallet without seeing him or his stain.
Is toxic while cheating, is cheating, bullying newer players? Guy should get what he deserves, a ban on dbd and a twitch suspension, being toxic is one thing, but cheating and being toxic? nu uh
1:31 for that one, I saw the scratch marks beforehand and you can hear him running. He got the hit off on him because you have to be hitting their eyes in order to blind anyways and in this case it didn’t have light coming from the side so the dead giveaway is he’s directly in front of the killer so my assumption is the streamer took a swing anyways since he knew he would be in front of him from the blind.
I know the purpose of the video was to demostrate how obvious some subtle cheaters are but the ending where Hens put “dan isnt an experienced player” was the highlight of the video for me 😂😂
ive been a spirit main since she came out, i can tell just from the way this person "predicts" where a survivor will be is super sus honestly. Even in the beginning when she perfectly landed on Alan even when blinded. Meg's first chase wasnt too weird honestly, you can see the bush moving so he could see her pretty easily. the way he put his husk in the middle of the pallet instead of on one side is weird though, even newer spirit players catch onto that pretty quickly. It very much looks like cheating because he plays like a newer spirit, but does every chase perfectly.
Tbh there are a lot of things that I was like "Well, as an experienced Spirit playing at high volume, that can easily be tracked." (like everytime he was blinded) But what made me first think he was cheating was what happens at 4:04. He doesn't wait for his Thrilling Tremors to be back before he hooks Dan, meaning his perk gave him zero info on which gens were _currently_ being progressed. But after the unhook he looks around as if he could check his Thrilling info, then decides to go straight for a specific gen across the map, in a corner. It's already weird by itself, but fully using your power for mobility is also very strange. Spirit's slow, you want to use your power mostly in chases and a little bit for mobility, so him completely depleting it means he was 100% sure there was someone there, despite having zero info from his perks. And when he downs the Nea endgame, any killer would look at the second gate and, seeing as it's not started at all, not assume that the second survivor is there. Yet that guy is 100% sure Alan is nearby. For all we know, Alan could have been at the same gate Nea was and opening it right now, but this guy doesn't hesitate and seems completely sure he's in the area. The 1v1s made it so obvious, damn. Guy has no LoS on the killer for seconds but is committing to going around all of shack or long walls, and he's looking intensely at the walls, not the corners as he's doing so, showing he doesn't need to hold checkspots at all. Actually, rewatching it, at 1:14 his power gauge fully recharges after breaking a pallet but he doesn't have the addon for that...
I wasn't too sure during the spirit game but it looked pretty blatant in the 1v1. Really unfortunate that this guy probably gained from streaming while cheating too, hopefully he actually stops
it's basically impossible to tell whether he's cheating from the spirit game alone, because good spirit players with high volume settings and training really can be that good at finding and hitting survivors
02:33 he saw leon in the door frame, but without knowing the direction leon went he turned left. leon also looked right making it likely to assume he wants to go right. 05:45 that's not unusual though. the gen had a lot of progress and i also almost always check the surrounding if a survivor is potentially hiding nearby. 06:00 this on the other hand has zero explanation. the gate has no visible progress. yet he checks this corner without being able to know they were there. 06:36 scratch marks up to that point and without knowing the direction he instantly turned left and even accurately stopped phasing onto alan wake. 10:25 true! though you can clearly hear spirits distinctive sound. i could almost always hear her due to that on the left or right side of my headset. 10:45 the audible location of spirits sounds doesn't apply to this bubba though. yet this streamer still reacted to bubbas location without knowing where he was.
Just got off dbd as a hacker in the game, unhooked me where I then couldn't move, then on second stage the progression froze and I couldn't be unhooked by a different survivor. Cheaters are scum and just ruin the game for everyone. If they just got laid, even just once they probably wouldn't do it.
@@RobertOnDaGame na, was 100% a hacker in this case, flying around the map etc. Just loaded game and got a msg thanking me for the report and that "appropriate action has been taken" 😀
I mean I am glad he doesn't cheat anymore (at least he is saying that) and that dan and you and ur friends worked together to reveal this But still In my opinion he should at least get a ban for some time....
@@KidsInBasementXDYeah so he snapped 90 degrees to the side and phased perfectly onto them where there was no/little grass. I mean they admitted to cheating already but besides that, there was no way to tell
@@WyattOShea Doesn't explain how they managed to phase right onto them to begin hearing them breath in the first place, they had no idea where they were.
The thing is, if the exploits are baked into the core of how the game is coded, there is not much that can be done without a massive rework by the developers. This is the kind of thing that can break a company.
1:19 Looking where to phase through the wall(Very common from R6 Siege replays). 1:35 Where is he looking? No generator over there. 2:56 Looks like he's tracking the Leon through the wall with his camera instead of facing the direction he wants to phase. It's weird he missed the phase on Leon earlier, toggling on/off? 3:54 Again staring at walls instead of where he's going. 4:38 I know people can hear Spirit footsteps on wood but grass? Is he really double backing expecting the survivor to hear her on grass? -- Wow the 1v1's were really something 11:54 He started doubling back without seeing the Bubba double vault the window. Dan's spidey sense is on point!
Notice how the music is very quiet and the game is very loud, if you need further game volume there are two buttons on the side or keyboard of your devise that turn the overall volume up and down :)
The music playing over the audio makes it hard to know how much the Spirit could have heard. 3:40 "The blind doesn't seem to bother him at all", not surprising because the Alan Wake is injured...
As soon as the power recharged after breaking a pallet I knew they were hacking, that addon is an iridecent, the addons they were using were for duration and recharge speed Edit: it also didn't recharge after breaking shack pallet, so I know its not a stream overlay thing
2:33 didn't even check where he went, straight up phased and went straight to him. Even then though he missed his mark he still got the 50/50 out of it. Then there's the phase at 4:36, now that one is just super confusing, he just phases to the right side and then proceeds to change course by going back out and instead going towards the main door where he perfectly get a hit from it.
While I understand your reasoning to censor his face for protection, I still think that it wasn’t a good choice. And for taking his word that he won’t cheat again. I suspect that he is still cheating and all this was little more than a slap on the wrist. But that’s how I see it.
7:35 He's saying : 'i have a really good headset" lmao, it's like "i have a good gaming chair". The French community on multiplayer games is despicable, every time i get queued with French people they dc or kill themselves on hook (+ trashtalk engame chat). As a french myself, i would love to see different server locations like on Valorant for example, where i can play on Frankfurt or London.
not sure i agree with taking that deal; if anything you just encouraged the behavior more cheaters do not care, and they disregard consequence - if anything they probably feel invigorated for "getting away with it" in their eyes and will probably just hide it "better" next time
ik hens made comments on other sus parts in the vid so i will not put them stamps here this is just parts i saw he didnt comment on 1:18 looks directly at alan through a wall then looks away to not look sus the blind hit after was also a give away but could be luck 1:36 does this again with the person saving. he can see the scratchmarks when he enters main and goes top floor to make it look like he didnt see them directly 2:55 easily follows the direct position of leon he made it rly obvious there 4:38 subtly tracks meg through the wall when he doubles back 5:57 directly looks at nea then looks at gate to make it unobvious i dont think i need to comment on the initial hit on the alan following. 1V1: the walls are just super obvious this guy as a survivor is awful without the walls you can tell by his general wonky pathing that hes not a good player and just hacking ive seen brand new players run in a straighter line than this dude a final comment is if behavior doesnt ban this guy then noones gettin banned
if you show gameplay like this and urge the viewer to analyse it for cheating, esspecially on spirit, please dont use background music. Makes it quite annoying to listen for breathing and footsteps.
11:36 - 11:49 At the killer shack against Bubba, the streamer has zero line of sight of the killer for 13 consecutive seconds; centering his camera exactly where he is the whole time - not once waiting to check corners. Not even trying to hide it.
checking that gate n the corner while theres a whole nother gate and then just phasing in the middle of nowhere and insta hitting the other person gave it away so hard.
I wasn't completely sold on it until they phased straight to Dan at the end with no knowlege of where he could've been. Was a dead giveaway. Instead of checking the other door, they go to the dead center of the map and not only find the last survivor but manage to phase perfectly on top of them.
I thought it was so funny that the spirit was pretending they couldn't see where everyone was at while they were patrolling and even funnier that she was tracking the alan perfectly through a different structure and he was literally throwing her off.
I think it’s funny how he even pretended a little during the spirit game, over phasing and turning around, but in the 1v1 when it’s kinda obvious what people were looking for he stopped pretending
As far as I can tell, the "pallet look" part (where he spent a solid moment looking at a pallet) could either be two things combined, which is the cooldown and him probably using his cheats. He tapped phase, which put it in cooldown, but then he used it IMMEDIATELY after. So he might've used the cooldown as a means to try and cover his tracks, maybe?
I’m sorry, Hens, but I can almost guarantee he is still cheating. Most who are willing to chest, and especially ones who use it to bully people, will almost always just cheat again once they feel people aren’t watching them. I’d have just reported him and called it a day
The good thing about DBD is that there's no way to hide cheating from experienced players. You either play "by the book," making the cheat useless, or do things to gain an advantage that go against expected behavior, like ignoring corners because you can see through walls, and get noticed. Someone who has played that loop a thousand times a certain way will red frag when it's done differently. Sadly, this game is neglected by BHVR. They put zero effort into hunting cheaters or providing us with tools to hunt them, such as a match replay system.
I feel as though he is. He’s playing as if he knows where they are at all times, he doesn’t care about being blinded, he finds people who aren’t even running or doing anything, he has 0 INFORMATION PERKS and yet still finds them all so consistently which can be justified by saying its gamer/killer sense from predicting their movements and possible routes but he is too efficient at finding survivors even at the endgame. There’s only so many coincidences that can happen before it turns out they aren’t. My final note is that what the spirit does is have a destination (where the survivor is) and makes unnecessary movements that appear to be made on purpose to cover up him always knowing
the biggest piece of evidence that got me suspicious from there on out was perfectly phasing on to the meg in main building; even though there was no scratch marks and okay you could make the argument that she was injured so making noise, but even then they phased right on top of the megs head not even behind or close by
4:55 would be the craziest read I've ever seen in a game. He read her soul. He knows her true name and can summon her from the reflections in still waters.
As a spirit main their phases are very sus, you normally take a second to hear the survivors before swinging. He just swings without checking for sounds
As a Siege Player nobody tracks people like that through walls. You wouldn't stare directly and side-step while you're being legit you'd look towards shack door and use your ears and scratch marks to determine a player's location. Side Stepping and looking directly at someone through a wall is crazy
Seen a fair few examples of both killers and survivors who cheat lately. Killers who shall throw skillshots or perfectly loop when there's no way to know your location (checking perks/addons postgame) and survivors who just loop amazingly on no info.
A lot of this I chalked up to good ears and controller players leading their camera and being "lazy" to microadjust because it's a hassle to do so. But the one thing that really ticked me off was towards the endgame. He phases towards a gate and turns to look at main. In phase, there is nothing to see shake or rustle and if anything, so close to main building looking in phase is less worth than anywhere else 'cause you can't even see grass in the distance. The only reason to check over there like this is because you can see stuff you aren't meant to.
My takeaways are: - Always precise phasing - Directly looking at opponents instead of using ANY checkspots - Intentionally getting into new player lobbies - Terrible at the game otherwise; missing simple attacks, bad pathing and gamesense It would be very odd for a player that plays this badly and abuses exploits as well to be so incredibly good at "tracking". In my book a cheater 100%.
I think I first saw what you meant when she was chasing Leon at shack around 0310, she def seemed to stop and watch him run around shack as she entered her phase
At about 3:00 there was some INSANE tracking through the wall, something no normal person would do, and they do it several times in the next ~30 seconds.
the 1v1 as survivor was as obvious as grass being green. If you really want wallhacks, you can just bring a key with the right add-ons to see the killer's aura lmao
Literally the first clip is evidence enough, he saw exactly where he was going and cut him off instead of following moving grass or the sounds of the survivor breathing
1:15 he has kintsugi teacup without the teacup (recharges phase when breaking pallet) he has rusty flute which charges phase faster and I forget others name but it gives him 1 sec longer phase time, didn't activate a 2nd time when he broke shack pallet at 3:03
The Streamer has been reported to both Twitch and the DBD Developers,
Since his face is shown I'm not willing to be the cause of a potential witch hunt and the consequences
I hate cheaters just as much as you do trust me.
Respect man. I just never understood how someone can get consistent enjoyment cheating or exploiting. It Takes away what makes online games fun, challenging yourself against others
I will be 1000% honest the spirit plays was like well... with some luck ya know maybe... the survivor though wow that was obvious ( internal paranoia sets in )
Good job hens!
Good, thx for doing the right thing, i like this game and totally ruins my experience when i stumble upon a cheater
The killer is using filters which is a big giveaway of them cheating
Obvious cheaters are obnoxious as hell but at least they're trying to make a humorous situation. Subtle cheaters are the biggest losers on the planet. I hate having to question all players i go against on if they're cheating or not
True. When cheaters are obvious at least everyone knows not to take it serious because there is literally NOTHING to be done. When cheaters are subtle, everyone in the match is under the impression that everyone is trying relatively hard and the cheater unfairly "wins" without anyone knowing they lost unfairly.
I play sniper huntess and they call me wall hacking cz i have aura reading perks all the time and its really anoying
@@tahajapanese1331 you should take that as a compliment honestly. You’re hitting such insane shots that they think you’re hacking. That happened to me when I got retribution 4 times in a game as nurse and just one blinked onto the survivors.
"at least they're trying to make a humorous situation", no they're trying to get attention by griefing 4 other random people in the process. I don't know why blatant cheaters get a pass from the DBD community because they think they're "funny".
@@neil2451it’s not a pass it’s everyone knows they’re cheating so no one is taking it seriously but with subtle cheaters everyone is treating it like a regular game
Subtle cheaters really are the worst honestly
wanna know something worse? cheating and using exploits...at least i would think its worse
What about N@zis?
@@abubaytnighan6480 lmao 💀
@@abubaytnighan6480 yeah nazis are pretty bad tbh, not sure if they're worse than cheaters though, it's a toughie
Indeed I’d rather fight a survivor or killer knowing I’m not gonna win than one that looks normal but destroys me
deliberately lowering your MMR to play in bully squads against baby killers is a special kind of scummy
Honestly it's a huge issue with the MMR system. I blame the game more than the player for allowing this.
It's almost like MMR is El garbanzo.
Some Big named DbD streamers use to do this daily
It really is. I can understand lowering it for easier achievements or archives, like doing totems/opening chests against a sweatlord Nurse no way, but against lesser killers you'd have more time to get your objective done and leave. But deranking to bully is really messed up. The problem is there's no incentive to "climb" in the hidden MMR, you just get more sweat and less BP if you get camped/tunnelled/gen rushed early so why escape via gates/take the 3k? Until this changes and the game is fun to play in high ELO as well as low, this will continue to happen unfortunately. Some players will always be dicks but when the path to victory is via scummy tactics like tunnelling/gen rushing or other broken shit, I can see why some players don't want to be apart of high MMR and want more relaxing games instead.
@@undertalebob3207tru3 still does this funny enough
You can tell he cheats because homie somehow still missing skill checks
😂😂
I didn’t think the spirit was cheating until she managed to find the Leon, Nea, and Alan in the endgame. Finding the Alan being the most sus since he was no where near an exit gate.
bro, how the alan wake blind spirit while she is on phase? its possible?
@@JoaoPeligrozo Yeah, your "body" doesn't dissapear if you phase, you only become invisible and fast which is why survivors can still blind you.
Edit: As @TheOGRecipe pointed out however you do lose collission, your husk you leave behind does have collission though allowing you to block pallets and vaults if you leave it there.
@@JoaoPeligrozoit is. If you have a rough idea of where she is. But blinding a good spirit like this is pretty unreal
@@Casper.Pwrong, spirit loses collision when phasing. She used to be able to bump into them but she can no longer do that.
@@TheOGRecipe True, my bad. I'll edit my comment!
That bit at the end killed me "Dan doesn't count he's not an experienced player" 😭
I only hate subtle cheaters, that is so cringe. Blatant cheaters I've always found funny. But the subtle ones are the worst.
Agreed, w to the cheaters that are not toxic or hinder the match and are there for the funny or to show off things❤
Cheaters are the gaming equivalent of that friend nobody invites anywhere because they always ruin everything with their poor behavior.
They are both the same imo lol. To me morally it’s the exact same thing. Different levels.
I mean, if you're looking at his screen it's not subtle at all
Blatant cheaters are either the most annoying thing or they are as funny as space billy
13:54 "After these 1v1s, even his friends in chat say he was cheating"
French guy here, the chat doesn't mention cheating in the clip.
Here are the messages translated:
"I see that you're getting trolled"
"How are you?"
"Doing fine"
"I'm lazy brother"
"I'm on overwatch atm"
"You play vs trapper?" (spelling mistake here)
"versus*"
I'm not saying he's not cheating but the information delivered here is incorrect.
the story is right but my editor zoomed onto the wrong messages i.imgur.com/x0AWYJO.png
@@notHens Yeah I suspected as much. Hopefully my comment didn't come out as rude, thanks for the clarification!
@@xReifoxsalut !! Je savais pas qu'il y avait des français qui regardais hens 👍
@@thedutywarlord264 Oh, il y en a plus que se qu'on croit !
@@thedutywarlord264 on est dans l'ombre, mais on est là 🙋🏻♂️
Cheating when youre already French is such a bad look
Probably has a small "oui oui!"
What does that even mean ?
@@grandtazorusrex1771he’s french
@@grandtazorusrex1771 Imaginez que vous puez le fromage et que vous êtes un tricheur
La honte de la France
11:35 this is the moment that sealed it for me. Kate had no indication he was doubling back and stopped so early even though she would have died if he kept holding w. Someone that is that confident on their "reads" is definitely wallhacking.
unironically you can heartbeat read shack pretty easily and do things like that lol. but there were so many other clips where they were blatantly playing like they were staring at a red rectangle through walls (because they were)
I hate all cheaters because they are only there to ruin normal peoples' experience.
FastRush93_tv the guy twitch
not only cheating, but it is especially bad in game like DBD...
In Dota/LoL you can dive fountain and trashtalk
In shooting game you can teabag and trashtalk
In COOP game you can ruin the game and got kicked most of the times
In DBD, you can have bully squad, teabag, teammate that lead killer to you, not doing anything but just hide, sandbag you, give up on hook, or killer than slug everyone on the ground because he need 4k
Now to think about it, maybe survivor players are worse
0:11
Ah yes, my favorite perk: Jumpman!
Omg this comment almost killed me off 😭😂
The description too, the ENTITTY 😆
Finally JRM can grow some hair
At 5:45 he even looks at the second door while phasing. But at 7:35 he says that he has a very good headset (for those who don't understand french), so we don't know, maybe he can use echolocation to find survivors like a submarine x)
as a french person it was quite funny hearing and seeing what he was saying, complete bullshit xD
Yes he was clearly cheating but Iooking at the second gate might be nothing. When the gates power I quickly look around to see where the other gate is if I am not sure where it is and then go back to what I was doing. It’s just a quick way to understand your endgame and see where someone might potentially be. Like I said they were deff cheating.
this is hilarious to me, as I remember very clearly that "echolocation" is not a real possible skill for humans to have. This has been tested by the speedrunning community when checking on "blind" speedruns for false runs, and they have concluded that you cannot make 'good' judgements from sound alone (please don't ask for sources, it'll take me a little bit to find it).
those darn dolphin or bat people playing spirit have such an unfair advantage! :^3
Not only does he have a very good headset, he also has an outstanding gaming chair.
This man is clearly innocent!
There’s one thing that I noticed, whenever an action was completed like a gen, hooking, saves, his eyes were glued in one direction when normally as a killer you’d be looking around.
Subtle wallhackers are prob the worst on both sides just in general
Wow both siding a problem that killers are 4 times more likely to face
Edit: joke
@@abubaytnighan6480 grow up.
@@abubaytnighan6480cheaters play both killers and survivors but on killer it’s almost impossible to tell unless they are blatant zooming around. They can aim both huntress ax or make it so they are god on blight or nurse, the cheat will make it so they re using their left power but just ar pro high play
@@abubaytnighan6480”abu”💀
I’m glad he says he won’t cheat anymore, but keep an eye on him. Once a cheater always a cheater
You really believe he won't cheat just cuz he says so
@@Demonsouls1993he did not cheat in the past few weeks, he’s still lowering his mmr and destroying babies tho which is insanely cringe
I don't agree with your vision about: "once a cheater always a cheater", I agree that some people will always be like that, but not everyone, sm ppl really regrets their own actions and grow mentally with that decision.
@@hens333 That's a big oof, I run into babies every few games. It feels so bad trying the same way I did against the SWF that almost beat me last game and realizing I have 6 hooks at 5 gens and they have no progress. Sadako is a knowledge counter killer so I let them reset if they're doing too badly and it feels like they're noobs.
@@KevinKGGamerWhat he meant about "once a cheater always a cheater" is that if he cheated once, there's nothing stopping him from doing it again, not that he doesn't regret it, but he can do it again whenever he wants.
The way he found him at 6:39 is absolutely unbelievable. The phase from the opposite side of main, threw main, then directly onto him would be considered a massive stroke of luck if he hadn’t been doing that the whole game.
Yeah, can definitely tell from the survivor pov @ 9:42 a normal survivor would use checkspots and look into the direction where the red mark may appear, this guy was simply looking at walls, you can see it by camera movement.
We played against a streaming huntress who has the most cracked shots on the planet and sniping people across the map through the corn, checked her vod out later since she didn't have much in the way of aura reading and she'd exclaim really excitedly like "ooh there they are" and get an insane snipe.
On her end, blown up on my 55" TV and highest resolution, cannot see even a hint of a survivor.
This happened throughout the entire game.
Thankfully though I think they actually got banned, lots of clips from my swf and her vod piled up with a report and they stopped streaming a few days later only to come back two weeks later "trying out dbd on console" with a new account
I had similar Huntress...but she also was able to Teleport to survivor!
Nah going to console is crazy 😂 yeah she deff got banned
Aim bot and wall hacks isn’t detected by dbd so unless someone had actual proof she didn’t get banned 💀. Unless in other games she started zooming around and flying.
Just something to keep in mind is that Twitch (especially while live) and youtube use really heavy compression. Small details that are obvious to the naked eye (like a sliver of neon blue hair next to a very dark area in the video) can easily be lost. Sounds unlikely in that case, but e.g. the Nea in the video could've been because of that.
@@Timothee_Chalamet_CMBYN most games that don't have a highly invasive anti-cheat can't detect client side cheats yeah, so a lot of FPS games will ban cheaters based on "soft" evidence of wall hacks and aim bots, and i hope bhvr uses that approach as well. it helps that wallhacks and aim bots are really easy to tell, especially if they're used together.
What is that bullshit about letting him get away with it coz he said he wouldn't do it again... of course he will, he is a cheater, and a bully. Turn in the evidence, make his identity public and make him get permabanned, the only solution for people like this is that the punishment hurts
People are either too soft to do that or they actually support cheaters
I totally agree, cheaters have no place in gaming. If you don't report them then you are just as bad as they are.
Agree
that'll just incite a hate raid
@@unimagin2blegood lol we need to bring good old bullying back
The spirit also got her power back at 1:15 after breaking the pallet. Isn’t that an add on? And she doesn’t have that add on.
I wonder how cheaters enjoy gaming knowing they are A: ruining the fun of others playing the game, B: necessitating an outside cheating tool to even be in the same level of those players and C: trivializing the game in such manner that they need to either troll or pretend not having cheats to have the slightest of fun (I am not talking about [possible] cheaters like in the video, just cheaters in general btw)
Cause they only care about winning
Cheaters are 1 of 2 ppl or both.
1. Those survivors that get tunneled and told to “get Gud, it’s not the killer’s job to make sure the survivor has fun, I don’t follow your little survivor rule book”.
2. The killer who sucks and can only get 2 unique hooks before gates power on and get teabagged at gates and is met in endgame chat with “GGez, baby killer, you thought”.
They went to the dark side and now they are having tons more fun than what I said above.
@@Timothee_Chalamet_CMBYN I just wonder how are they having fun by using an external program instead of actually getting better fair and square
@@kj117br5 It's usually just a power trip, they just like having more power and control over other people. It's almost always that simple. There's a million different mental gymnastics they use to justify cheating. Many look at normal players as losers for caring and trying in a video game. Some are literally just there because they enjoy ruining other players' experiences.
yoo, wake up, that Hens guy uploaded
Hans guy*
@@simplicity46 You must be fun at parties.
The subtle edits were 10/10 and honestly if I were to cheat it would 100% be for infinite pebbles.
the most popular cheating tool in dbd does have a "streamer mode" where it will hide all of the cheats and hud elements, but still be visible for you on your screen
and they definitely have ESP to have a square box outline and title tag above it, wherever the survivor is, where if they just had perma full aura reading, it would still dissapear when being blinded or phasing, it's so blatant when they perfectly track
lmaoo seeing that clip I had with the dwight was so unexpected. Great vid Hens as always. I was smh the whole time especially during the survivor chases it was blatant!
I find it hard to believe a spirit can track people that well (basically perfectly), yet can't do basic mindgames at pallets and plays generally like a noob. Guy definitely has the better gaming chair here.
As a dbd player, i'm pissed to see cheaters and hackers everywhere, it ruins the fun of everyone.
And as a french, i'm upset to see dummies such as this guy ruining what's left of the reputation of the french community. We were already mocked for no reason by a part of the dbd community. He doesn't improve the situation.
I do not care if he stops cheating from what i see, he has been cheating for quite some time and as such he should get his ban.
Anyway, props to you hens and your friends to have found that he was indeed cheating and for confronting him.
Ton pseudo est terrifiant
Honestly , you should've reported him to BHVR and if he'd get banned that would be a solid proof...
Never take a word from a cheater
So here’s the thing about cheaters, subtle ones and blatant ones get banned. Doesn't matter how subtle you are, if you change your heal speed or running speed even by 1%, EAC will detect and you will get banned in a week or so.
HOWEVER, wall hacks isn’t detected by the anti cheat AT ALL, it’s like those mods that people do to make make their characters and perks look cartoony or all colorful like in the video , it’s happening on your side only for you to see and not detected unlike zooming or flying etc. It's a similar thing with aimbot, Killers only need these two undetected cheats to be pro at killer and can’t be called out easily like a cheating survivor.
@@Timothee_Chalamet_CMBYN hmm i suppose that does make logical sense. it's harder to detect reading restricted memory than it is to detect actually modifying it. then a 3rd party program can re-display that memory in the form of an overlay showing the killer etc.
This one got banned, i got my ban report verification after few days of reporting
@@dandbd1748 nice 👍🏻
@@dandbd1748 now that’s just false, dbd doesn’t even send “ban reports”. All their response is the same generic message about appropriate action being taken. I’ve been reported for hostage holding ( friend and I hid for like 40 mins lol) and I got a warning about it and just had to acknowledge it, that person would’ve still gotten that auto
Message tho.
the thing that tipped me off the most was when they looked around mid phase at 5:47 and then afterwards finding the Nea instantly at the edge
ok, i missed the Nea, couldve easily been spotted by the killer
@@FFFREAK1992 finding alan after though was pure bullshit, he just phases on top of him with 0 clue where he could be
@@InfInityNoir true! didn't even watch that far when I commented. I just play a lot of spirit and instantly realized that...looking around mid phase doesn't do much, y'know? 😂 finding Alan the first time might be pure luck tho, happened to me a few times where I came out of phase and randomly had a survivor in front of me. the survivor gameplay is insane tho, the walling is so obvious. with spirit you could make the case that she is very loud and you can hear where she is, but the bubba was wild
12:37-12:41 you can tell he sees Bubba through the wall. He has no info on which way Bubba went and then last millisecond decides to turn away from pallet without seeing him or his stain.
Is toxic while cheating, is cheating, bullying newer players? Guy should get what he deserves, a ban on dbd and a twitch suspension, being toxic is one thing, but cheating and being toxic? nu uh
Frl
Then cheating and toxic on baby killers Is crazy
1:31 for that one, I saw the scratch marks beforehand and you can hear him running. He got the hit off on him because you have to be hitting their eyes in order to blind anyways and in this case it didn’t have light coming from the side so the dead giveaway is he’s directly in front of the killer so my assumption is the streamer took a swing anyways since he knew he would be in front of him from the blind.
I know the purpose of the video was to demostrate how obvious some subtle cheaters are but the ending where Hens put “dan isnt an experienced player” was the highlight of the video for me 😂😂
ive been a spirit main since she came out, i can tell just from the way this person "predicts" where a survivor will be is super sus honestly. Even in the beginning when she perfectly landed on Alan even when blinded. Meg's first chase wasnt too weird honestly, you can see the bush moving so he could see her pretty easily. the way he put his husk in the middle of the pallet instead of on one side is weird though, even newer spirit players catch onto that pretty quickly. It very much looks like cheating because he plays like a newer spirit, but does every chase perfectly.
No sane person would ever play the short side of the goofy jungle gym
Tbh there are a lot of things that I was like "Well, as an experienced Spirit playing at high volume, that can easily be tracked." (like everytime he was blinded)
But what made me first think he was cheating was what happens at 4:04. He doesn't wait for his Thrilling Tremors to be back before he hooks Dan, meaning his perk gave him zero info on which gens were _currently_ being progressed. But after the unhook he looks around as if he could check his Thrilling info, then decides to go straight for a specific gen across the map, in a corner. It's already weird by itself, but fully using your power for mobility is also very strange. Spirit's slow, you want to use your power mostly in chases and a little bit for mobility, so him completely depleting it means he was 100% sure there was someone there, despite having zero info from his perks.
And when he downs the Nea endgame, any killer would look at the second gate and, seeing as it's not started at all, not assume that the second survivor is there. Yet that guy is 100% sure Alan is nearby. For all we know, Alan could have been at the same gate Nea was and opening it right now, but this guy doesn't hesitate and seems completely sure he's in the area.
The 1v1s made it so obvious, damn.
Guy has no LoS on the killer for seconds but is committing to going around all of shack or long walls, and he's looking intensely at the walls, not the corners as he's doing so, showing he doesn't need to hold checkspots at all.
Actually, rewatching it, at 1:14 his power gauge fully recharges after breaking a pallet but he doesn't have the addon for that...
I wasn't too sure during the spirit game but it looked pretty blatant in the 1v1. Really unfortunate that this guy probably gained from streaming while cheating too, hopefully he actually stops
it's basically impossible to tell whether he's cheating from the spirit game alone, because good spirit players with high volume settings and training really can be that good at finding and hitting survivors
02:33 he saw leon in the door frame, but without knowing the direction leon went he turned left. leon also looked right making it likely to assume he wants to go right.
05:45 that's not unusual though. the gen had a lot of progress and i also almost always check the surrounding if a survivor is potentially hiding nearby.
06:00 this on the other hand has zero explanation. the gate has no visible progress. yet he checks this corner without being able to know they were there.
06:36 scratch marks up to that point and without knowing the direction he instantly turned left and even accurately stopped phasing onto alan wake.
10:25 true! though you can clearly hear spirits distinctive sound. i could almost always hear her due to that on the left or right side of my headset.
10:45 the audible location of spirits sounds doesn't apply to this bubba though. yet this streamer still reacted to bubbas location without knowing where he was.
In general if Dan is getting destroyed in a pub game then it means that the killer is very lucky or he is cheating
4:17 she didn’t have barbecue but knew immediately which gen to go to that was being worked on.
Just got off dbd as a hacker in the game, unhooked me where I then couldn't move, then on second stage the progression froze and I couldn't be unhooked by a different survivor. Cheaters are scum and just ruin the game for everyone. If they just got laid, even just once they probably wouldn't do it.
It's very likely that's just another bug from the update I've heard reports of this issue
@@RobertOnDaGame na, was 100% a hacker in this case, flying around the map etc. Just loaded game and got a msg thanking me for the report and that "appropriate action has been taken" 😀
7:36 the streamer answered "I have a very very good headset" for those who didn’t know
I mean I am glad he doesn't cheat anymore (at least he is saying that) and that dan and you and ur friends worked together to reveal this
But still
In my opinion he should at least get a ban for some time....
Lowkey love how the captions started this video with “cheetahs”
6:42 how the hell did he even know to stop and check there?? No cherry blossom and obviously no stridor 🤔
Because he can see perfectly fine how grass moves
grass moved
@@KidsInBasementXDYeah so he snapped 90 degrees to the side and phased perfectly onto them where there was no/little grass. I mean they admitted to cheating already but besides that, there was no way to tell
To be fair you can hear his breathing very easily but still a little sus though.
@@WyattOShea Doesn't explain how they managed to phase right onto them to begin hearing them breath in the first place, they had no idea where they were.
my favourite rebuttle to being accused a wallhacker "I have a good headset" xD
Literally his response to the Feng
You really embarrassed me in front of my viewers, Hens
not cool, man
Is this the dude? XD
@@DrakoWulf no, you can see the name of the streamer at 7:21
@@DrakoWulfno, i'm just goofing
and I certainly don't speak french
@@sirnipplelickerofjustice774 that's dan
This is SOOO BLATANT. Lmaooo. He is looking at the wall, the ENTIRE time. This guy doesn't even know what real players look like haha
The game is infested with cheaters, yet as soon as someone recommends a boycott, they get laughed at smh
lol
If everyone’s cheating, no one is.
Ppl out here claiming everyone other person is a cheater. Well then. Get some cheats too so everyone cheating so no one is 💀💀💀💀.
The thing is, if the exploits are baked into the core of how the game is coded, there is not much that can be done without a massive rework by the developers. This is the kind of thing that can break a company.
@@Jean-vf3pi By that logic, don't they kind of deserve to be broken if they haven't invested in cybersecurity?
1:19 Looking where to phase through the wall(Very common from R6 Siege replays).
1:35 Where is he looking? No generator over there.
2:56 Looks like he's tracking the Leon through the wall with his camera instead of facing the direction he wants to phase. It's weird he missed the phase on Leon earlier, toggling on/off?
3:54 Again staring at walls instead of where he's going.
4:38 I know people can hear Spirit footsteps on wood but grass? Is he really double backing expecting the survivor to hear her on grass?
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Wow the 1v1's were really something
11:54 He started doubling back without seeing the Bubba double vault the window.
Dan's spidey sense is on point!
You shouldn't add background music when asking to tell if spirit is cheating or not, like how do we suppose to listen?
Notice how the music is very quiet and the game is very loud, if you need further game volume there are two buttons on the side or keyboard of your devise that turn the overall volume up and down :)
The music playing over the audio makes it hard to know how much the Spirit could have heard.
3:40 "The blind doesn't seem to bother him at all", not surprising because the Alan Wake is injured...
As soon as the power recharged after breaking a pallet I knew they were hacking, that addon is an iridecent, the addons they were using were for duration and recharge speed
Edit: it also didn't recharge after breaking shack pallet, so I know its not a stream overlay thing
2:33 didn't even check where he went, straight up phased and went straight to him. Even then though he missed his mark he still got the 50/50 out of it. Then there's the phase at 4:36, now that one is just super confusing, he just phases to the right side and then proceeds to change course by going back out and instead going towards the main door where he perfectly get a hit from it.
While I understand your reasoning to censor his face for protection, I still think that it wasn’t a good choice. And for taking his word that he won’t cheat again. I suspect that he is still cheating and all this was little more than a slap on the wrist. But that’s how I see it.
Doing the 1v1s was such a good idea. It made it SO obvious what they were doing.
Also, they really seem like they suck ass without cheats tbh😂
7:21 You forgot to censore
That's Dan's stream lol
@@mlien7377 I will keep the comment just in case some other single-digit-IQ person will have my same thought
that's Dan, the survivor who brought this cheater to hens' attention after that spirit game on mother's dwelling
That is not his twitch thats my friends, was a bit confusing to show it there, my bad!
That's probably not the guy
7:35 He's saying : 'i have a really good headset" lmao, it's like "i have a good gaming chair". The French community on multiplayer games is despicable, every time i get queued with French people they dc or kill themselves on hook (+ trashtalk engame chat). As a french myself, i would love to see different server locations like on Valorant for example, where i can play on Frankfurt or London.
not sure i agree with taking that deal; if anything you just encouraged the behavior more
cheaters do not care, and they disregard consequence - if anything they probably feel invigorated for "getting away with it" in their eyes and will probably just hide it "better" next time
I reported him to both twitch and the devs
A witch-hunt could have consequences I’m not willing to be the cause of considering his face is shown
@@hens333 yeah, the witch-hunt thing i 100% understand
Good video Hens and good job on the teamwork to do some research into this sad cheater
Once a cheater, always a cheater. You shouldnt have trusted his word. Should have just publicized him and got him banned.
I love how he literally responds to the locker accusations with "i just have a really good headset"
Being a subtle cheater is so corny at least be blatant so its funny and its less embarrassing if you get caught
I was like "no, he may just be good" and then at 11:37 he wasn't looking back, wasn't hesitating, nothing!! It was so weird and unnatural
I wonder if he had eq or if it was actual walls. Nvm the 1v1 kinda proved he walls
ik hens made comments on other sus parts in the vid so i will not put them stamps here this is just parts i saw he didnt comment on
1:18 looks directly at alan through a wall then looks away to not look sus the blind hit after was also a give away but could be luck
1:36 does this again with the person saving. he can see the scratchmarks when he enters main and goes top floor to make it look like he didnt see them directly
2:55 easily follows the direct position of leon he made it rly obvious there
4:38 subtly tracks meg through the wall when he doubles back
5:57 directly looks at nea then looks at gate to make it unobvious
i dont think i need to comment on the initial hit on the alan following.
1V1:
the walls are just super obvious this guy as a survivor is awful without the walls you can tell by his general wonky pathing that hes not a good player and just hacking ive seen brand new players run in a straighter line than this dude
a final comment is if behavior doesnt ban this guy then noones gettin banned
tru
if you show gameplay like this and urge the viewer to analyse it for cheating, esspecially on spirit, please dont use background music. Makes it quite annoying to listen for breathing and footsteps.
Cope this guy is clearly cheating
11:36 - 11:49
At the killer shack against Bubba, the streamer has zero line of sight of the killer for 13 consecutive seconds; centering his camera exactly where he is the whole time - not once waiting to check corners.
Not even trying to hide it.
movement is a clear sign she wasnt checking anything at all only going straight for each survivor
checking that gate n the corner while theres a whole nother gate and then just phasing in the middle of nowhere and insta hitting the other person gave it away so hard.
I wasn't completely sold on it until they phased straight to Dan at the end with no knowlege of where he could've been. Was a dead giveaway. Instead of checking the other door, they go to the dead center of the map and not only find the last survivor but manage to phase perfectly on top of them.
7:34 ma man rrly used the "i have a good headset" excuse lol
I thought it was so funny that the spirit was pretending they couldn't see where everyone was at while they were patrolling and even funnier that she was tracking the alan perfectly through a different structure and he was literally throwing her off.
I think it’s funny how he even pretended a little during the spirit game, over phasing and turning around, but in the 1v1 when it’s kinda obvious what people were looking for he stopped pretending
Omg the "i have a good headset" excuse it's too much 😂
As far as I can tell, the "pallet look" part (where he spent a solid moment looking at a pallet) could either be two things combined, which is the cooldown and him probably using his cheats. He tapped phase, which put it in cooldown, but then he used it IMMEDIATELY after. So he might've used the cooldown as a means to try and cover his tracks, maybe?
I’m sorry, Hens, but I can almost guarantee he is still cheating. Most who are willing to chest, and especially ones who use it to bully people, will almost always just cheat again once they feel people aren’t watching them. I’d have just reported him and called it a day
The good thing about DBD is that there's no way to hide cheating from experienced players. You either play "by the book," making the cheat useless, or do things to gain an advantage that go against expected behavior, like ignoring corners because you can see through walls, and get noticed. Someone who has played that loop a thousand times a certain way will red frag when it's done differently. Sadly, this game is neglected by BHVR. They put zero effort into hunting cheaters or providing us with tools to hunt them, such as a match replay system.
I feel as though he is. He’s playing as if he knows where they are at all times, he doesn’t care about being blinded, he finds people who aren’t even running or doing anything, he has 0 INFORMATION PERKS and yet still finds them all so consistently which can be justified by saying its gamer/killer sense from predicting their movements and possible routes but he is too efficient at finding survivors even at the endgame. There’s only so many coincidences that can happen before it turns out they aren’t. My final note is that what the spirit does is have a destination (where the survivor is) and makes unnecessary movements that appear to be made on purpose to cover up him always knowing
the biggest piece of evidence that got me suspicious from there on out was perfectly phasing on to the meg in main building; even though there was no scratch marks and okay you could make the argument that she was injured so making noise, but even then they phased right on top of the megs head not even behind or close by
5:22 there were no scratch marks, and I couldn't hear the survivor lol
pretty convenient that they found nea and then decided to track across the entire map to find the alan despite there being no signs.
4:55 would be the craziest read I've ever seen in a game. He read her soul. He knows her true name and can summon her from the reflections in still waters.
As a spirit main their phases are very sus, you normally take a second to hear the survivors before swinging. He just swings without checking for sounds
The last chase at the shack w Bubba was the defining point. He was tracking him through the walls and the bubba even faked it out
As a Siege Player nobody tracks people like that through walls. You wouldn't stare directly and side-step while you're being legit you'd look towards shack door and use your ears and scratch marks to determine a player's location. Side Stepping and looking directly at someone through a wall is crazy
Seen a fair few examples of both killers and survivors who cheat lately. Killers who shall throw skillshots or perfectly loop when there's no way to know your location (checking perks/addons postgame) and survivors who just loop amazingly on no info.
A lot of this I chalked up to good ears and controller players leading their camera and being "lazy" to microadjust because it's a hassle to do so. But the one thing that really ticked me off was towards the endgame. He phases towards a gate and turns to look at main. In phase, there is nothing to see shake or rustle and if anything, so close to main building looking in phase is less worth than anywhere else 'cause you can't even see grass in the distance. The only reason to check over there like this is because you can see stuff you aren't meant to.
I like how he reacts to killers change of direction even when he clearly can't see him.
My takeaways are:
- Always precise phasing
- Directly looking at opponents instead of using ANY checkspots
- Intentionally getting into new player lobbies
- Terrible at the game otherwise; missing simple attacks, bad pathing and gamesense
It would be very odd for a player that plays this badly and abuses exploits as well to be so incredibly good at "tracking".
In my book a cheater 100%.
He moves in a way that, to me, obviously gives away his walls. A good example is when he tracks Leon at 5:20, after the injure.
I think I first saw what you meant when she was chasing Leon at shack around 0310, she def seemed to stop and watch him run around shack as she entered her phase
Imagine not just cheating, but cheating against new players...damn I'd rather play against skull merchant than do what that streamer was doing.
At about 3:00 there was some INSANE tracking through the wall, something no normal person would do, and they do it several times in the next ~30 seconds.
the 1v1 as survivor was as obvious as grass being green. If you really want wallhacks, you can just bring a key with the right add-ons to see the killer's aura lmao
the last two downs in the first match sold it for me. went straight to them both without even having to look for them
Literally the first clip is evidence enough, he saw exactly where he was going and cut him off instead of following moving grass or the sounds of the survivor breathing
1:15 he has kintsugi teacup without the teacup (recharges phase when breaking pallet) he has rusty flute which charges phase faster and I forget others name but it gives him 1 sec longer phase time, didn't activate a 2nd time when he broke shack pallet at 3:03