The Royal Australian Navy is an excellent organisation despite the current Australian government's incompetence in expanding and sustaining RAN capability. RAN personnel from the top to the bottom of their organisation are performing as well as is possible under their circumstances. The Labor government needs to focus on the threats to our national security and, hence, stop procrastinating about expanding Australian Defence Force's capabilities. The RAN needs more tier 1 and tier 2 destroyers, the RAAF needs the once planned additional fleet of F-35s and our Army needs a massive expansion in its inventory of weapons that have been proven so effective in Ukraine. The AUKUS submarine program is of critical importance to our long-term security. However, the ADF capability needs expansion now, not in a decades' time.
Just one final comment, no matter if the next US President is Harris or Trump or someone else, we need them to lean hard on our government to smap it out of its procrastination and increase our Defence budget to fund the programs I have mentioned above.
As a Canadian, I'm both deeply impressed, and deeply ashamed because of what Oz is getting, and has committed to. Those of you who know the shape of the Royal Canadian Navy, especially our submarines, know why I'm ashamed. While I wish current US House Speaker Johnson a quick exit from Government, I completely agree with what he had to say about the Canadian Armed Forces and our 'contribution' to NATO.
Canada had a plan to build its own nuclear-powered submarines when Mulroney was PM, but the Americans vetoed it. At least, Trudeau has now committed to acquire up to 12 new diesel submarines for the Royal Canadian Navy. As I said above, I wish Canada also joined AUKUS, but unfortunately Canada is probably not seen as a reliable partner these days given the sad state of the CAF.
@@BucyKalman You have that wrong. The Americans under Reagan approved sharing technology and allowing the Uk to build nuclear submarines for Canada. The Canadians cancelled the project due to the end of the Cold War.
Air force thinking is directly to the point. Navy power shifts for chances. Marine life saves land. Army designs are on ranking. My phone is still ringing out of my hands. Allright
Why the hell the RAN would buy Astute class, I mean just buy only Virginia class and then design and manufacture domestic nuclear sub for the next 15-20 years. Having another submarine from another country will create logistical and training bottleneck since both Virginia and Astute have very different types of weapons, sensors and methods of operation.
a) The US can't make enough Virginias for themselves b) I'll be amazed if they ever get them c) SSN-A (AUKUS) is a brand new design built in the UK AND Australia sharing sections/equipment with the USNs SSNs. The Virginias are the stop gap as I suspect they will be pretty old and knackered just due to the high existing US requirements that need to be satisfied...would have made more sense to buy Astutes as the production line is running out of submarines to build. Unlike in the US where they are behind by an entire sub a year.
@@eagle_rb_mmoomin_418 The production line at Barrow is not running out, it switches to the Dreadnought SSBNs. After that, it will switch to SSN-AUKUS. There is no capacity for further Astutes.
The RAN is not buying Astute mucker, but feel free to try and copy a Virginia Class, now that would be interesting, then try and build it, even more interesting! Next question where you would get a reactor and it's fuel from? Over to you.
UK is wanting to send a 'Carrier Strike Group' into the Indo Pacific in 2025, 'depending on the new government'! Well there's no money for that unless more can be squeezed out of pensioners and taxes increased even more. So expect a frigate and perhaps a support ship providing enough fuel can be found and a crew assembled. If a carrier is sent ASI may well get some early experience in rebuilding gear assemblies and propellers in large ships. Though it's unlikely any carrier will be actually carrying any aircraft so any visit would be purely symbolic. Symbolic of Britains decline into penury and passivity in the face of having no remaining economy to draw from having given away it's Empire through lack of interest.
I'm surprised Xi is allowing Handsome Boy to carry this forward.. Afterall you don't hear much about the proposal to manufacture missiles here in Oz..Let alone a nuke sub!
Must be a Wumao account, looks like a generated username as well. BTW China threw a lot of tantrums about AUKUS, even threatened that Australia deserves to get nuked for AUKUS. None of those threats work however, Australia is deliberately going down this route because of China's constant aggressive rhetoric towards Australia. This is why Australia has also procured Tomahawk, and extended range AGM-158. Keep telling yourself China controls other countries Wumao, it won't make it true.
$400bn? Guaranteed it'd balloon out even further and with delays. That's 20 x 800 bed hospitals. None of these guys will be there when the subs are delivered. And they won't be accountable for any cos overruns.
$400 billion is for all 3 countries and with 50+ years cost projection. Cheaper than any US hospital. Virginia class is actually cheaper than its budget in 1995 FY.
@@hresvelgr7193 It signifies she is under a foreign crown, and shows poor judgment and a poor example to the US Navy. Rejection of nobility is in the US Constitution, which she swore to uphold and protect.
How are you doing, Australian Navy?? Not too painful having been screwed up so badly?? This was the worst deal you could have dreamt of. Wishing you tons of patience.
@@Leftyintollerable That account called joso is a Wumao. Things about Aukus attract Wumao propagandists to make stupid comments, so you see them a lot talking unintelligible nonsense.
It’s sad to see how the Australian Navy has been sacrificed by crooked Morrison and his nasty tricks. There’s no way back now, and there’s a wide desert ahead to be crossed before any new sub arrives, hopefully in 15 years… That’s the price for politicians not wanting to give up their pride and confess their awful mistakes.
Talking about Hamas placing military complexes amongst civilians? Australian military Incompetence has ensured HMAS Stirling naval base, Perth, Western Australia is an inevitable first strike nuclear target. It is fact, prevailing SW winds will blanket NW Perth in nuclear fallout. Only an idiot would put greater Perth upon this inevitable track. There are many better options where fallout would have a zero 400 km impact.
President Trump will force the Australian Navy to have their submarines be crewed by Russian sailors as part of revised AUKUS. Russian intelligence officers will be assigned to all Australian commands.
You don't know what you're talking about. You let everyone see your intelligence and your ideology with such comments. Now, show the world any evidence whatsoever that what you assert has any bassis in reality.
First Sea Lord wow that's as big as it gets have we ever had a First sea lord here before
Yes, although not often, its a tradition both navies share. The Head of the Royal Australia Navy visits England etc.
Excellent! Keep up the good work, Australia just needs to speed up. It's ship build program now?
Australia has no influence on the matter and is entirely dependent on the US shipbuilding capacities.
@@Ruka-f7k Only for the second hand Virginia Class, new build is to be from Vickers in Britain.
good to see everything is moving forward
😂😂😂 Except for new Australian subs within the next 15 years.
Great progress....Victoria's CFMEU take note!
awesome. Long shall it succeed
Get into it
I wish Canada could join AUKUS too. It sounds wrong to sideline the Canadians.
Once Trudeau is voted out at the next election, Canada will order nuclear submarines through AUKUS.
I'd rather not be in another military alliance if it's all the same to you.
With Mr Trudeau doubt they will the Canadians.
Canada cannot join AUKUS because there's nowhere to put the C !
@@littlewink7941 AUKCUS
I was literally riding my bike behind that Camera on my way to work hahah
Pleasing to see such progress in the West - clearly Albo had nothing to do with this AUKUS project!
What progress in the West? RAN is not expecting these submarines before early 2040!
If that biddy is US Chief of Naval Operations Australia needs to seriously consider what it's getting in to.
The Royal Australian Navy is an excellent organisation despite the current Australian government's incompetence in expanding and sustaining RAN capability. RAN personnel from the top to the bottom of their organisation are performing as well as is possible under their circumstances.
The Labor government needs to focus on the threats to our national security and, hence, stop procrastinating about expanding Australian Defence Force's capabilities. The RAN needs more tier 1 and tier 2 destroyers, the RAAF needs the once planned additional fleet of F-35s and our Army needs a massive expansion in its inventory of weapons that have been proven so effective in Ukraine.
The AUKUS submarine program is of critical importance to our long-term security. However, the ADF capability needs expansion now, not in a decades' time.
Just one final comment, no matter if the next US President is Harris or Trump or someone else, we need them to lean hard on our government to smap it out of its procrastination and increase our Defence budget to fund the programs I have mentioned above.
So why isn’t the RCN getting in on the AUKUS submarine programme to replace their old diesel boats?
Americans
Timescales through out all three services has always been late, especially from the Australians!
The British call their highest officer of the Navy…The First Sea Lord…very cool…what do we call ours? Chief of Naval Operations…🙄
As a Canadian, I'm both deeply impressed, and deeply ashamed because of what Oz is getting, and has committed to. Those of you who know the shape of the Royal Canadian Navy, especially our submarines, know why I'm ashamed. While I wish current US House Speaker Johnson a quick exit from Government, I completely agree with what he had to say about the Canadian Armed Forces and our 'contribution' to NATO.
Canada had a plan to build its own nuclear-powered submarines when Mulroney was PM, but the Americans vetoed it. At least, Trudeau has now committed to acquire up to 12 new diesel submarines for the Royal Canadian Navy.
As I said above, I wish Canada also joined AUKUS, but unfortunately Canada is probably not seen as a reliable partner these days given the sad state of the CAF.
@@BucyKalman
You have that wrong.
The Americans under Reagan approved sharing technology and allowing the Uk to build nuclear submarines for Canada.
The Canadians cancelled the project due to the end of the Cold War.
Air force thinking is directly to the point.
Navy power shifts for chances.
Marine life saves land.
Army designs are on ranking.
My phone is still ringing out of my hands.
Allright
To the point?
@@BradSimmonds-j7o Yes, they line it.
Royal Navy admiral jealous of the funding available
I DON'T THINK SO THE ROYAL NAVY HAS PLENTY OF SHIPS AND SUBS BEING BUILT
@@user-mjg1067 decent amount being built, not plenty though.
Alot more is being spent on the British...
@@EnglishScripter than the AUS navy maybe but not the US navy
@@Oxley016 Yeah but alot of the US navy budget as we have seen has gone to corruption.
Why the hell the RAN would buy Astute class, I mean just buy only Virginia class and then design and manufacture domestic nuclear sub for the next 15-20 years. Having another submarine from another country will create logistical and training bottleneck since both Virginia and Astute have very different types of weapons, sensors and methods of operation.
RAN is not buying Astute?
a) The US can't make enough Virginias for themselves b) I'll be amazed if they ever get them c) SSN-A (AUKUS) is a brand new design built in the UK AND Australia sharing sections/equipment with the USNs SSNs. The Virginias are the stop gap as I suspect they will be pretty old and knackered just due to the high existing US requirements that need to be satisfied...would have made more sense to buy Astutes as the production line is running out of submarines to build. Unlike in the US where they are behind by an entire sub a year.
@@eagle_rb_mmoomin_418 The production line at Barrow is not running out, it switches to the Dreadnought SSBNs. After that, it will switch to SSN-AUKUS. There is no capacity for further Astutes.
@@vollelektrolysierer5773 Which is quite sad considering we only have, what, 7 Astutes for the Royal Navy.
The RAN is not buying Astute mucker, but feel free to try and copy a Virginia Class, now that would be interesting, then try and build it, even more interesting! Next question where you would get a reactor and it's fuel from? Over to you.
UK is wanting to send a 'Carrier Strike Group' into the Indo Pacific in 2025, 'depending on the new government'! Well there's no money for that unless more can be squeezed out of pensioners and taxes increased even more. So expect a frigate and perhaps a support ship providing enough fuel can be found and a crew assembled. If a carrier is sent ASI may well get some early experience in rebuilding gear assemblies and propellers in large ships. Though it's unlikely any carrier will be actually carrying any aircraft so any visit would be purely symbolic. Symbolic of Britains decline into penury and passivity in the face of having no remaining economy to draw from having given away it's Empire through lack of interest.
Great to see progress to a sub sea class with a pack after Collin’s disaster political stuff up.
I'm surprised Xi is allowing Handsome Boy to carry this forward.. Afterall you don't hear much about the proposal to manufacture missiles here in Oz..Let alone a nuke sub!
funny but true
They made a great choice choosing the Virginia class SSN as stopgap before they could put out SSN of their own in the next 15-20 years.
@@ramal5708 yes you are right
Must be a Wumao account, looks like a generated username as well.
BTW China threw a lot of tantrums about AUKUS, even threatened that Australia deserves to get nuked for AUKUS.
None of those threats work however, Australia is deliberately going down this route because of China's constant aggressive rhetoric towards Australia.
This is why Australia has also procured Tomahawk, and extended range AGM-158.
Keep telling yourself China controls other countries Wumao, it won't make it true.
$400bn? Guaranteed it'd balloon out even further and with delays. That's 20 x 800 bed hospitals. None of these guys will be there when the subs are delivered. And they won't be accountable for any cos overruns.
$400 billion is for all 3 countries and with 50+ years cost projection. Cheaper than any US hospital. Virginia class is actually cheaper than its budget in 1995 FY.
US Navy's top officer wearing a crown on her hat?
Looks like she was given an Australian cap as a gift
All three are wearing the same hat (with a crown). Are you objecting to a woman who dared to wear a crown, suitable only for men?
She should be, her Navy is many times more powerful than those under those two men.
The cap says Australian submarines...
@@hresvelgr7193 It signifies she is under a foreign crown, and shows poor judgment and a poor example to the US Navy. Rejection of nobility is in the US Constitution, which she swore to uphold and protect.
Franchetti is a clown as CNO.
Australia rarely gets defence procurement right. So much waste.
There are a lot of new Wumao accounts down in the comments attempting to talk trash against Aukus.
Quite funny.
Blind obedience to the US is the default position, join the warmongers regardless of their abysmal record. Saying no would be punished.
Everyone who disagree with vassalization of Australia is a wumao now?
US Navy's DEI APPOINTMENT.
Seen many comments like this lately, yall be like, if in doubt just go with sexism and racism
How are you doing, Australian Navy?? Not too painful having been screwed up so badly?? This was the worst deal you could have dreamt of.
Wishing you tons of patience.
And why is that?
It’s Royal Australian Navy, froggie.
You sound like a bitter French person
do I smell a jealous frog??
@@Leftyintollerable
That account called joso is a Wumao.
Things about Aukus attract Wumao propagandists to make stupid comments, so you see them a lot talking unintelligible nonsense.
The Navy is being gutted and its pissing me off
which navy?
@@dan7564 Australian Navy
It’s sad to see how the Australian Navy has been sacrificed by crooked Morrison and his nasty tricks. There’s no way back now, and there’s a wide desert ahead to be crossed before any new sub arrives, hopefully in 15 years…
That’s the price for politicians not wanting to give up their pride and confess their awful mistakes.
Aussies who are pro China or pro France, which is the same, are against this move.
The Puss was gutted years ago. All the experienced sailors are leaving at an astonishing rate it’s not the navy it used to be
Talking about Hamas placing military complexes amongst civilians? Australian military Incompetence has ensured HMAS Stirling naval base, Perth, Western Australia is an inevitable first strike nuclear target. It is fact, prevailing SW winds will blanket NW Perth in nuclear fallout. Only an idiot would put greater Perth upon this inevitable track. There are many better options where fallout would have a zero 400 km impact.
Noddy needs a very serious haircut.
President Trump will force the Australian Navy to have their submarines be crewed by Russian sailors as part of revised AUKUS. Russian intelligence officers will be assigned to all Australian commands.
You don't know what you're talking about. You let everyone see your intelligence and your ideology with such comments.
Now, show the world any evidence whatsoever that what you assert has any bassis in reality.
lol
Tool.
Aren't you a leftard W⚓
@@aussienscale Moron