Dumb didn't mean stupid back then. It meant mute or unable to speak clearly. It wasn't rude or insulting to call her dumb, it was an accurate description of her as she was unable to be clearly understood.
No actually, 'mute' was in common use then. 'Dumb' was and is still in use for those with disabilities. For then, it was still condescending, uninformed, ignorant, and even derogatory
@@tashasharp815no doubt it was derogatory, but "deaf and dumb" meant unable to hear and speak, specifically This is where we get terms like "dumbstruck"
31:36 typically when defending your property is birdshot birdshot buckshot. Birdshot is seen as a warning shot because it’s not gonna hurt as much as buckshot is guaranteed to. A buckshot is going to blow a fucking hole through somebody where a bird shot is more of a scatter of pellets
This is the exact thing I came to say. Dumb meant mute, not stupid. Sometimes the things these girls don't know blows my mind. I thought this was common knowledge.
Any prolonged research into historical records will show the context for the word. With the amount of historical stories they’ve told, they should know.
Ladies, no disrespect intended…but if you are going to to “old timey” crime stories please read research with your head in that time frame, and not in the present. As has been stated multiple times “dumb” has nothing to do with cognitive impairment in that context, and a rant on the subject with 2023 goggles only gives an impression of ignorance and is a disservice to the story you’re trying to tell. Thank you
Love the podcast!! Just fyi: dumb /dəm/ See definitions in: All Medicine · Offensive Computing adjective 1. temporarily unable or unwilling to speak. "they stood dumb while the attacker poured out a stream of abuse"
The fact that you drew out they BBYYYEEEEEEE at the end ...made me feel less unsettled lmao... you girls brighten up my life with this podcast. Ty
This was a truly tragic and fascinating case. I’m growing to love the older cases more and more. 💚 thank you for that.
Dumb didn't mean stupid back then. It meant mute or unable to speak clearly. It wasn't rude or insulting to call her dumb, it was an accurate description of her as she was unable to be clearly understood.
No actually, 'mute' was in common use then. 'Dumb' was and is still in use for those with disabilities. For then, it was still condescending, uninformed, ignorant, and even derogatory
@@tashasharp815no doubt it was derogatory, but "deaf and dumb" meant unable to hear and speak, specifically
This is where we get terms like "dumbstruck"
I'm so glad you said this, I was like uhhhhh that's not what deaf and dumb meant
I love the old timey cases and the longer the better!
31:36 typically when defending your property is birdshot birdshot buckshot. Birdshot is seen as a warning shot because it’s not gonna hurt as much as buckshot is guaranteed to. A buckshot is going to blow a fucking hole through somebody where a bird shot is more of a scatter of pellets
Omg as I've been getting older I am also suffering from heartburn more often 😭
All of yall so concerned about the meaning of a word back in the day it's wild good episode ladies 👍
I don't know why they're beefing with the past. Just don't be cruel these days and keep it moving.
"Dumb" was a medical term (at the time) for mute. Not an insult.
I have cousins who routinely stole from us. I love 'em but Either I take care of it or the police do. And the police will be gentler. Love ya, cuz!
The phrase "dumb" means unable to speak. Think of the musical "Tommy". "That deaf, dumb, and blind kid..."
Nothing to do with intelligence
This is the exact thing I came to say. Dumb meant mute, not stupid. Sometimes the things these girls don't know blows my mind. I thought this was common knowledge.
@@SabrinaMBowen I mean it's not exactly vernacular now a days so it's not completely unreasonable
Any prolonged research into historical records will show the context for the word. With the amount of historical stories they’ve told, they should know.
LOO-EL-LIN Just thought I'd help a lil lol.
That’s the name of the protagonist in No Country For Old Men, which is the only reason I knew how to pronounce it. lol
14:43 Lol you could be referring to DW from Arthur which is Dora Winnifred and then there is DJ from full house which is Donna Jo
Ladies, the words didn't have cruel connotations until WE decided they did, which is typical of all slang over time. Haven't you noticed?
Exactly, a generational difference.
Whoo hoo..came on just in time.
Ladies, no disrespect intended…but if you are going to to “old timey” crime stories please read research with your head in that time frame, and not in the present. As has been stated multiple times “dumb” has nothing to do with cognitive impairment in that context, and a rant on the subject with 2023 goggles only gives an impression of ignorance and is a disservice to the story you’re trying to tell.
Thank you
Dude had a narly splinter
Love the podcast!! Just fyi:
dumb
/dəm/
See definitions in:
All
Medicine · Offensive
Computing
adjective
1.
temporarily unable or unwilling to speak.
"they stood dumb while the attacker poured out a stream of abuse"
That's why they were called "dummies" like how people call mannequins dummies.