The most mysterious part is how someone got off 7 shots of a Marlin rifle without waking everyone up. While a .30-30 lever action isn’t necessarily the loudest gun on earth, it still would be enough to wake the neighbors up with just one shot, yet alone half a dozen.
Amazes me that in this day and age people believe they were legit. Fakes and con artists is what they were. Ed was also abusive and probably beat Lorraine.
@@cassieopia532That's the part I find most tragic. I genuinely believe Loraine. In that, what she saw she seriously believes she saw. Listening to her talk, she's a pretty clear example of someone with schizophrenia experiencing hallucinations brought on by extreme stress. Which then creates this grand delusion that she is some gifted psychic medium. Ed on the other hand.. is a massive piece of shit for how he paraded her around and exploited her mental health issues for money. The way he treated so-called haunting victims is also horrendous. Mental health has always been misunderstood in history as some sort of demonic or otherwise supernatural plight. However, the idea that a place or objects could be haunted is a relatively new idea. Ed and Loraine are the primary reason so many people to this day believe in haunted houses. Ever wonder how every single haunted house in America was apparently only haunted between the 50s to the 90s? Ed died in 2006. Lorraine became a bit of recluse after his death, supposedly guarding the world from the nightmares they locked in their basement "museum". Without Ed to fabricate stories and write books, there haven't been any famous haunting cases since the couple stopped doing "investigations".
They were charlatans , when she passed away I'm pretty sure she got dealt with in the afterlife for her fake mystic powers And her husband did too. And if there is a afterlife they're both being tortured or they're getting their butts kicked for disrespecting the dead the way they did their whole life
How come nobody starts with who built the house and the families that lived there before Butch murdered his in it? That’s a giant chunk of the story missing! I’m not complaining, you did a great job and I love your channel! Just super curious about the birth of this monster house ya know…
No one ever had issues until the Lutz family and not since either. The book that was written is accused of being widely exaggerated and many are of the opinion that the Lutz family made a cash grab with sensationalism. No activity ever recorded either.
The most frightening bit about that house is those freaky-a~s attic windows. Look at them. Seriously. Would you live in a house that appears to be looking at you? Not me.
In 1981 my family moved into a house with windows like those. It wasn't the same style of house as the Amityville house, it just had those windows on the third floor. When we kids saw a picture of it, we all said "cool, it's just like the Amityville house!" 😅 To the best of my knowledge, that house isn't haunted.
Lorraine and Ed Warren PLUS George and Kathy Lutz WERE FRAUDS. THEY LIED. THE LUTZ FAMILY KNEW THE HOUSE'S HISTORY WELL BEFORE THEY BOUGHT IT. IT. WAS. A. SCAM. WITH. ED. AND. LORRAINE. LORRAINE SERIOUSLY NEEDED PSYCHIATRIC HELP FOR HER DELUSIONS I feel, see, communicate, smell and otherwise interact with Sprit ALL THE TIME. THE WARRENS AND LUTZES WERE FRAUDS. Oh, and GEORGE LUTZ actually ADMITTED ON THE RECORD THEY MADE THE WHOKE DAMMED THING UP BECAUSE HE REALIZED HE COULD NOT AFFORD THE FREAKING MORTGAGE PAYMENT
As for the picture of s supposed child on the staircase with glowing eyes, it was debunked as one of the photographers sitting on the stairs and the glowing eyes were actually light reflected off of his glasses.. And also, if it was a child, he would have to be pretty tall for his head to be above the rails, common sense.
The Amityville horror makes for a great story and that's all it is. A fantastic horror story. It's fiction. The absolute horror of the murders is sadly, all too real.
Heart disease is one of the most common causes of death the world over. So the fact that a few people associated with this story died from heart issues is not at all surprising. The only poorly explained thing that ever bothered me about this crime is how the entire family were shot in their beds? A rifle shot is extremely loud, anyone with any sanity on hearing that in their house, at night, would instantly wake up, get out of bed and GTFO! If the rumours were true about the bodies being placed in bed after the shootings, that'd make a bunch more sense.
On the Lutz' not talking about what happened that last night in the house, its funny because they seemingly couldnt stop talking about it to everyone on the talk show circuit while making the rounds multiple times. The one Lutz son has done a documentary called "My Amityville Horror" and it is really interesting. As far as them leaving all their possessions behind, it couldnt have been that much because all the Defaeo's belongings, furniture, etc were still in there while the Lutz's resided there. So leaving their stuff IMO doesnt give their story any more credibility. IMO when it comes to the Warrens its been said they've never gone to house that wasnt haunted. I believe Lorraine had psychic sensitivities that were real. Ed I believe was a self proclaimed demonologist with no real credentials. More often then not, the couple was asked to leave locations for making problems worse, or due to Ed temper & profane laced tantrums. Its odd that in the multiple retellings of the Warren's cases these facts are conviently left out. As with at times they were never asked to these locations but showed up to them unannounced after reports became publicized. More than once it was Ed Warren who called the media to report on the cases himself. I dont know if some or all of these things are true. Like I said, I do believe Lorraine was the real deal which Ed kind of exploited to give him some level of credibility. Now that they have both passed it will be interesting to see if they pay anyone a visit proving their theories on the afterlife & paranormal. Personally, I believe, but I think there are somethings while on this mortal coil we were not meant to know, but that doesnt mean I dont find reviewing paranormal cases & doing investgations any less fascinating. The Amityville Horror gets more ridiculous with each retelling. Sadly, whats often overlooked is that an unstable son took the lives of his 6 imediate family members one night. They were real people who have must expwrienced unimaginable horror at the hands of someone they knew & loved. Thats the real horror that actually happened in that house the rest is up to everyone else to figure on whether the hauntings & possessions are true or not.
After reading and watching so much on the Warrens, I'm convinced that Ed was a complete grifter and that his wife was probably halfway innocent and a "true believer". She might have had some type of psychic talent and Ed used that to make money off of whatever publicity he could drum up.
@@eviehammond9509 At the time the Lutz's fled the house, Ronnie DeFeo was still changing his story - often. His trial hadn't started yet. Rumor has it that his lawyer and George & Kathy and Jay Anson met over dinner and wine one night... some money exchanged hands and the "haunting" began. Perhaps, if the house was "possessed" then Ronnie'd have yet another excuse to use in court. Maybe just a rumor. Maybe not.
@littleblueowl216 What I find haunting, for the lack of a better word about this case is all the victims were found in bed & had not been moved or drugged & no one in the neighborhood ever heard any shots fired from such a powerful rifle. Those facts are scarier to me than anything Hollywood, the Lutz' s or even the Warren's could whip up.
It’s a nice house in a great neighborhood. No one who has lived in it since the murders has experienced anything unusual (including the hoaxers who claimed it was haunted). The biggest nuisance subsequent owners have experienced are the gawkers and voyeurs who have invaded their privacy and treated their home like a morbid tourist attraction.
Read up on John List from Westfield, NJ. He slaughtered his family, and years later, he was caught. The house it where the murders took place "mysteriously" burned down months later. The talk at that time was because of what happened, no one would buy the place.
The smell and black coating of things in the house could have been Stachybotrys, a toxic mould. Given the proximity of the house to water, it wouldn’t be a surprise. This mould very nasty neurological effects . The flies were probably cluster flies which cluster together as the name suggests. For winter hibernation The family could have been incapacitated by carbon monoxide. They would not have woken up under its affect. The neighbours lied about not hearing shots because they would get the blame for not doing anything and missing the chance to save at least some of the family members.
Some of those theories are complete rubbish, the neighbors would have called the police or at least admitted they might have heard something, the idea they heard it and denied is based on unlikely assumptions and conjecture. Also, Carbon Monoxide doesn't incapacitate like that, it's not known for causing sleep paralysis and it would have incapacitated the shooter as well, it's quite simply impossibly convenient that the shooter, the only insane person, would be the only one unaffected, your "scientific theory" is based on more fantasy than childrens books as far as those 2 theories go. The black mold checks out, it's usually very underestimated, definitely a contributing factor for the murders, but not the reason. But I'm not sure what you were getting at with the flies, it's a fairly insignificant point.
@@Sarah-saidIf you think Carbon Monoxide incapacitating everyone in the house except the murderer is scientific you need a reality check, that and neighbors not reporting something they did hear are more science fiction that the tooth fairy.
What happened? A family moved into a house where a tragic event occurred and then found out they couldn't afford it. So, they colluded with a pair of hucksters to make up a story.
Thank you, someone with some common sense. 👏🏼 I lived over in Lindenhurst a few miles away for years and literally none of the locals believe any of it. It’s a nice house in a nice neighbourhood. The one fact in the whole story is that some lowlife murdered his family there, every single thing said since then has been lies. The family who live there now have been there since 2016 and said the only weird thing that happens is random people off the internet turning up to take pictures and trespass on their property.
Yet they had the mockery hey for a new boat and custom motorcycles but left them at the house when they fled? doesn't add up if it was purely a bad financial move.
The weird thing is that after the lutz experience in the house. It is noted that nothing paranormal happened ever again and that owners now are at peace.
The Lutz’s story was exposed as fake decades ago, in a series of court cases and lawsuits, involving many of the people they dealt with. For example they approached De Feo’s lawyer before even buying the house, asking for detailed information on that murder case. That they did this as a get rich scheme is far from incredible, as movies about the supernatural were at peak popularity at the time. But, you know… if you believe in ghosts and magic, feel free to ignore the inconvenient facts surrounding this story.
I think being sceptical about what the Lutz family claimed happened is sensible. However I think it's also fairly sensible to be sceptical of the claims of William Webber and Ronnie. One of whom apparently fell out with the Lutz family over the money, the other changed his story repeatedly. Unless I'm mistaken nothing has ever been proven or disproved.
I believe the story told by Ron Jr in the last interview he gave before he died in prison like he said I'm gonna tell you the truth I'm dieing and I'm never going to get out of prison. The Lutz family and the haunting was nothing but a grift to make money.
Oh I'm sorry I should have added more to that I try to keep my comments short. I believe Ron Jr on how he said the murders went down you can find the interview on TH-cam. Then I was saying the Lutz had the haunting planned before they even moved in.
@@l.p3861 idk I seen an interview with the one son Danny Lutz and he still claims it to be real but with the trauma his parents put him through he possibly could really think it did happen
@@tinapuddin9923i actually watched that lastnight but i cant find the 2nd part i was curious what happened from that point on as he was saying him and his sister did it but she died also
I grew up on Long Island. In the 80s My dad worked with someone who lived next door to this house. My parents went to a party at the co-workers house, and of course the topic came up. It was said that the current neighbors did not experience anything like the Lutz family had while living there. I highly recommend the book if you haven’t read it yet - it’s very creepy.
There is a documentary about Kathy's oldest son. He tells his story of what happened at the house. He claimed that George was into the occult. He made it sound like some of the events at the house were George's fault due to this.
@elizabethnasekapow7351 wasnt this the same woman who kept a teenage girl in her basement for her husband to sleep with, something tells me she pretty much at the gates by now
Yeah, I saw that. It was a huge detail left out of all the stories. I think there’s far less paranormal stuff going on about the story and far more just about a man messing with the occult in a place he shouldn’t have been doing it.
@@chadreynolds108transcendental meditation, iirc, and a lot of people tend to use the term “occult” very loosely to apply to anything from yoga to crystals to homeopathy
I read the book when I was teenager in the 70’s and LOVED it, as I did all stories like it. I remember that the Lutzesstated at the beginning of the book how important it was for their story to be told with the utmost adherence to the truth. When I saw the movie I was bothered by how much was changed, exaggerated or simply made up. But even then I knew that Hollywood does that so I dismissed it. But then I saw a television interview with the Lutzes, some talk show, and they were asked if they felt the movie truthfully told their story and they unequivocally said yes, absolutely. That one moment made me believe they were full of it. This video’s concluding chapter confirmed it.
I don't think their story was entirely made up. I think they may have experienced some poltergeist activity. Maybe brought on by their own collective anxiety and hysteria about living in the house so shortly after the murders. I think they thought their real story would be worth telling but when Jay Ansen met up with them he didn't - and convinced them to add the elements needed to make it into the ghost story we all know. George & Kathy probably didn't realise they'd still be talking about it 30 years later. They just needed the money and accepted that Ansen would have to 'bend the truth' to make it salesworthy. That's just my opinion anyway.Oh - and the picture of 'the boy' - it's one of the investigators. There are other pictures where you can clearly see a blond haired, check shirt wearing guy with spectacles among them who is really onbviously the kid. I can't remember his name, but he is known and has agreed since that the picture is of him and the 'glowing eyes' are reflections of his thick 70's prescription glasses.
A number of years ago, I purchased a used dvd of a documentary which included the Lutz's young son, now a grown man, being interviewed. He heavily implies that the story was concocted, but says that his father engaged in witchcraft, and that the house felt evil because of him. He seemed pretty scarred by the publicity of being dragged onto talk shows and constantly referred to as The Amityville Boy. DeFeo, Sr. and Mr.Lutz both seem to have been intimidating characters. The house itself looks very nice, but I'm sure it's giving off creepy vibes by now, regardless of the haunting hoax.
I live in an apartment complex that use to be a hospital and my landlord says she gets a lot of complaints from the West wing of the building where I live. I found out by going to a local museum about 5 years after I moved here, that my Apt is where the morgue was located.😮 So believe me, I believe in things that go bump in the night. These things are so commonplace that once I actually felt SOMETHING lay down in bed with me. I could feel and see the mattress sag and yet while it weirded me out, I wasn't afraid really. I just yelled, "get out of my bed! You cannot sleep in my freaking bed!" And I swear it just got up & I could hear it leave the room . I just ask them "not to hurt me or my pets..You were here first. But it would be nice if ya pitched in on the rent sometimes".😅 With all that said, I DO believe Butch DeFeo massacred his family but his attorney,WHO HAPPENED TO BE THE LUTZ' ATTORNEY, made up the whole "devil made me do it" to 1. Get Ronnie off and 2. To get the Lutz family out of a huge mortgage that they could ill afford . How come since then, nobody else has had trouble in that house? They've interviewed owners who said their only trouble was with looky-loos and pranks + teenagers around Halloween . Now Butch DeFeo said his lawyer made a lot of this stuff up & I think that's the only true thing he said
B@@TheTapeLibrary you didn't cover that George lutz purchased all the defeo furniture and that his son claimed he would practice black magic, his son claims the entities msy have been invited into the house that couldnt be controlled so George lutz decided to leave
At the time the Lutz's fled the house, Ronnie DeFeo was still changing his story - often. His trial hadn't started yet. Rumor has it that his lawyer and George & Kathy and Jay Anson met over dinner and wine one night... some money exchanged hands and the "haunting" began. Perhaps, if the house was "possessed" then Ronnie'd have yet another excuse to use in court. Maybe just a rumor. Maybe not.
The Lutz's lawyer came up with that when they cut him loose. Plus George and Kathy should be screenwriters instead of putting money into a house and then banking on a book/movie deal (who even thinks of that).
The whole "you take the blame" and "I don't want to hear any more about your sister" to me makes it sound like Ronnie was implicating his sister as well as himself in the murders. I'm not sure if that really points to abuse? But you might be right. It does seem like Ronnie Snr had a violent side, at least towards Jr.
It was no secret that DeFeo Sr. was a very violent and abusive man, regularly beating on Louise as well as his kids. Michael Brigante, Louise's father, who was also up to his neck in the New York mafia, had gotten wind of his son-in-law's abuse of his daughter and his grandchildren. Sometime in September of that year, Louise's friend and housekeeper had been there and she overheard when two men in business suits rang the doorbell one afternoon and told Louise to tell her husband that if he ever hit her again, he'd end up dead. Also, there was ALMOST an active hit out on DeFeo, but Ronnie jr. told his grandfather that he'd take care of it, and that it would happen sometime in early December "somewhere in the city." I have studied this case and read everything I can about it; little John Matt, as he was affectionately called, was the very same age as I was at that time, he was born in late october, 1965, also like me, so I've always had a special place in my heart for that little boy, along with the rest of them who lost their lives that night as well.
No, it doesn't- polygraphs are notoriously unreliable, only ever achieving 50/50 accuracy. Calling it a lie-detector is as genuine as using that term to describe a tennis shoe. Moreover, it's on record somewhere that Ed Warren was involved somehow in the making of the book. He said something on the lines of, "just make it scary". So that should say a good bit about not only this case, but Ed's credibility.
I totally agree. I can’t get enough and I live 20 minutes from Amityville. Only saw the house once because my friend lived in the town at the time, not too far from the house. It’s a gorgeous home no doubt, too bad the events that took place there were so terribly tragic.
@@RandomComment6does the house have a unsettling atmosphere to it? I know its a beautiful home in a really nice location, but if half of the things are true with the hauntings, I wouldn't want to be any where near it.
@Ner0mancer burden of proof falls on the one making the claim, not the other way around. There is no evidence of anything supernatural other than people's ability to lie or exaggerate or even understand what they are seeing or experiencing. There's nothing wrong with saying 'I don't know', but you fruits go straight to 'of course it's real, just look!' Or 'I experienced this myself!' Experiences can be shared without a correlation to one or the other whatsoever. Grow up, ghost stories are for fun, not to be believed 🍻
Im from long island and we dont have a clue what happened still. My parents were 24. Took us to that house a million times and actually has a great aura! Im also well aware that like ALL of long island is cursed by native americans. All of our towns are named after tribes that we colonized!! Who WOULDNT haunt this place? But that house? No. Lake Ronkonkoma.... yes.
I don't think there was anything paranormal about this case, but I sure as hell would like to know exactly what happened that night. How did none of them hear multiple blasts from a high powered rifle? And it's not true that the Lutz's used the same furniture the DeFeos used. It was all replaced
Thanks. I can never get enough Amityville! I have no idea how everyone didn't wake up after the first shots. I have a Marlin in .35 Remington, it's a very loud supersonic cartridge. No suppressor could have been used.
There is evidence that the mother and one of his sisters was awake during the shooting. He could have committed the murders so quickly that the victims probably didn’t have the time to realize what was going on.
The infamous “Red Room” was a cupboard. The “Ghost Boy” is clearly someone crouched down wearing glasses, the light is reflecting off the lenses, one can even see the frames of the glasses quite clearly. How that photograph frightened so many over the years, and was believed, is bewildering. I wouldn’t believe anything the Warren’s said. And I’m not sure what is meant by “twelve month span” as The Lutz’s were only in the house for 28 days, possibly less. I did enjoy this video though, very well made and narrated.
If you look closely at the photo of what is claimed to be one of the deceased children you can clearly see what definitely looks like glasses. I have never noticed that before and now I cannot unsee it .
Mentioned elsewhere that you can find comparisons to that picture and one of the investigators in the house and it very well could be him. They do deny being on that floor when the picture was taken though. Regardless of if there is an explanation for it, it still creeps me the hell out.
The picture of the boy has been debunked. As being a photograph of a kneeling technician with glasses and a small figure. The glowing eyes are a reflection of the glasses. If you look closely you can see the frame of the glasses especially at the right side of the head. Unfortunately I forgot where I saw this being debunked ... it was another youtube channel. It should be common knowledge by now. So you were spot on without knowing... maybe a career in forensics is on the horizon 😊 Btw .... I adore this channel ❤️ ❤❤
This is probably one of the most thorough treatments of the Amityville case I have ever watched - really well done. I always wondered about the gunfire that no one heard as well. Although the subsequent haunting has been proven to be a hoax, there were never any solutions offered for how no neighbors heard those original rifle shots. Weird to say the least.
Old houses are not made of tofu dregs. Well constructed houses with plaster and lath interior walls are known for their ability to deaden sound waves. That's all I have got.
@@martkbanjoboy8853I've never heard of houses made of tofu dregs but it's true that older houses were usually built solid and sound doesn't carry nearly as well in them as it does in most modern homes. Still, the Amityville house was built a little less than a hundred years ago and it wasn't built with thick stone walls like ancient castles. I've heard a shotgun being shot off on the other side of a house and there's no way anyone within the Amityville house could have sleep through that sound. I couldn't hear normally for at least ten minutes after and the neighbors two blocks away heard it being fired. It doesn't make sense that no one heard any of the shots being fired and that none of the Defao children got up to check on each other.
@@Sarah-saidHey. Do not make the mistake I believe the malarkey about the perpetrator killing the entire family like it was a professional hit. It was not. The guy got his hands on the father's Marlin 336 carbine, chambered in a cartridge having more game stopping power at point blank range than a .30/30. That is a grisly fact. The mental image coming to mind with regards to the entire crime from start to finish is a messy horrific bloodbath. The tale about the perp having supernatural powers to be able to commit the crime in complete silence strikes me as literal cynical and disrespectful gossip thought up by some idiotic drug addled Hollyweird scriptwriter. Comments on social media about capital crimes is a bunch of blah - flum. The official court records have the real info devoid of disrespectful Hollyweird blah - flum.
I don’t believe in this or any of the ghosts stories. If the new family wasn’t religious, why would they have a priest inspecting the house? Once an idea is planted, all you needed was human imagination and hysteria.
It’s not at all terrifying, as there were no supernatural elements to the murder case, and they bought the house specifically to start spinning the yarn they thought would make them rich. Before moving in, they already had an author ready to publish the story and had spent some time interviewing De Feo’s lawyer on details of the murder case.
21:56 IMO, it doesn't appear that the boy in the picture has glowing eyes as was suggested. It just looks like the flash of the camera reflected off the glasses he was obviously wearing. Does a ghosts glasses reflect light?
You did an AWESOME a job with this bro! I live one town over from this house, have me whole life of 45 years, which btw on LI is about ten minutes away. Anyways, I’ve heard many retelling of these stories, but this was probably one of the best
If I hadn’t just watched a far more convincing documentary explaining what really happened, how the hoax was conceived, the deal between the Lutz’s original author that fell through over a disagreement … you might have almost had me. The somewhat ethereal-bordering-on-ASMR voiceover was an especially nice touch. Bravo!
I love channels like this. Amityville is one of the most powerful mysterious Paranormal stories I have ever heard of. It's one of those things you never get tired of hearing and you never stop questioning.
You never get tired of hearing lies? Weird way to live. The only fact in the whole story is that some sick idiot blew his family away. EVERY single other thing is pure lies and speculation.
I feel bad for the poor girl at 29:06 , whose childhood friend was murdered, having to go back to the house that undoubtedly held a lot of memories of that friend because a group of people were lying about the place for publicity
Ronnie was just a loser that refused to take responsibility for his actions I suspect dad wasn’t abusing him. Dad knew his son was a loser and was trying his damnedest to straighten him out.
When you look deep enough into the abyss, sometimes the abyss looks back, especially when under severe trauma and chemical drugs. That would be my conclusion
It's been a long, long time since I've thought about Amityville and the Lutz family. And every once in a purple moon, I get sucked back in. I don't know the Lutz's personally, but my brother was best friends with the cousin of Christopher Lutz. The mother's were related. My parent's, little brother and I were living in Flagstaff, Az at the time. Our other brother was in the military. One day, my little brother gets a call from his friend Chris saying his cousins were in town and if he'd like to meet them. He said yes, and went up the hill to me them. A few hours had passed when my brother comes running into the house slamming the door behind him. He was scared to death. When he calmed down, he told me Christopher Lutz and his sister showed them some pictures of the house. Two pictures I remember him telling me about was a photo of the Chinese Dragons at the foot of the staircase. There was some kind of mist over them - like a super imposed photo over them. Their eyes were blood red, the smile showed fangs and they seemed alive. The 2nd photo was of the windows on the first floor landing. On the right side of the window, there was a "demonic" pig face, red eyes, smiling at the camera. My poor little brother was so scared he slept in my room for 2 weeks. A lot of paranormal stuff began happening in our home, which I won't discuss now because it's nothing compared to what came later. About 4-5 months later, Chris, his sister and a bunch of friends decided to play with the ouija board. My brother didn't participate ('cause he knows better) and left. Chris, my brothers best friend, was going to die from strangulation, his sister would die from losing a leg, one girl's house would catch fire........... Chris, did die from strangulation. It was late at night and he was on Lake Mary rd. when his pickup hit a patch of black ice and flipped over. Chris was hanging upside down in the cab. He was trying to undo his seatbelt, but kept slipping downward. He was strangled to death by the seatbelt. During Christmas break, his sister went down to Mexico with a bunch of her high school friends. She was on the back of an ATV when out of no where, an unmanned ATV side swipped the ATV her and her friend were on. It mangled her leg. She was taken to a hospital in Mexico City for treatment. Gangrene set in and she got sceptic. The doctors were going to amputate her leg, but she was air evacked to Phoenix Children's hospital where they managed to save her leg. The last I heard from Chris Lutz was about 20+ years ago. At that time, he was living in Phoenix, still obsessing about Amytiville. I have no desire, nor does my little brother of being in contact with him. Bad, bad things happen to people when they do.
I just came across this channel today. I love it. I already subscribed. I remember this story very well. Many videos on it but this one is near the best of them. ❤
I’ve always been fascinated with the story of this house and the fact that’s Lauren’s went to explore it. I also specially loved the story of this because I live 15-20 mins away from this house and I can say for my self seeing this house in person you can actually feel something weird about the house ,not just on the house but the surrounding of the property.
No....Dawn killed her father and the kids, while a friend of Ronnie's had shot Louise, but she was still alive and moaning and whimpering, so Ronnie fired the final, fatal shot to "put her out of misery," as he would say years later. Also, New York homicide detective Herman Race had ALWAYS INSISTED that Dawn had fired a gun that night. By most accounts of those who knew the family, Dawn was the most volatile of the DeFeo children, not Ronnie Jr. She had also tried to stab her father earlier that same night during a fight over her wanting to leave that house and be with her boyfriend in Florida. Then there's the DEA agent who was staked out across from the house that night who said he saw Dawn walk out holding a rifle. He, too, never heard any gunfire that night.
@@jamescarrington5521 All lies. No one except Defeo reported any of that happened. Every piece of evidence shows one shooter. And AT LEAST 3 OF THEM WERE AWAKE when they got shot, proven with evidence in reports and autopsies.
Cameras had been around an awfully long time, before this family moved into that house. We saw photos of the various family members, indicating they owned a camera. You're telling me, that all this stuff is supposedly going on, and no-body thought "Hey let's take a photo of this, you know so people don't think we are lying about it later." As for spooky feelings of ominous beings lurking about, have you ever watched a horror movie, and then had creepy feelings for even days or weeks afterwards? This family bought a house where six people had been murdered not long before. They would have heard about the murders, and spoken with their neighbours and people around town. I have no doubt that they started having creepy feelings after ingesting all that information, so would anyone. This was clearly an attempt by the Lutz family to make a quick buck.
Yeah I can definitely see that, they do claim no one was up there at the time but of course in all of these cases you can never be sure. I think you can find comparisons of one of the investigators to the picture online and there is definitely a similarity
The case of George Lutz claiming to be constantly cold in the house all the time is not surprising, all they had was a coal fire to heat up such a big house.
Not true at all! The house had an oil fired boiler that provided "steam heat" through the heating system's plumbing and cast iron radiators. Where in Hell did you ever get the idea that it was a coal furnace heating system? You can clearly see the large ugly radiators throughout the house.
New subscriber really enjoyed this video. Wow that pic of what is thought is a boy but because you zoomed in I actually believe it was the investigator with glasses as I can see the frames.
@@TheTapeLibrary it gives me the creeps also I normally look away when that part of anybody's video is about to show it lol. I watched your video today in regards to sleep paralysis and will be commenting on my experience. Great content!
Personally I think it was definitely a child. No adult man's face is that small frankly. Thus I think they had a kid in there for the photo despite what the Warrens claimed. After all they were clearly not above such chicanery were they. I mean, look at their museum. LOL.
One of the questions i always had was,how in the hell did he manage to fire all those rounds,in the middle of the night,nothing to supress the sound of the shots,and no one,not in the house or outside of it,like neighbors,was able to hear a single noise from it? No one heard anything,the neighbors said they had heard nothing. Even his family,one by one,yet nobody woke up with the sound of gunfire? It's a pretty loud sound,especially índoors where the sound will bounce and echo off of the walls and travel thru the house. That is something that always has puzzled me, something i find dificult to understand.
I just found your page and I am enjoying it very much. I was wondering if you have ever heard of the Entity. That one is horrible it scared the S*** out of me as a kid. Anyway keep up the good work.
My opinion, the residual energy of the horrific murders alone could very well affect that family. As been discussed over the years, and as mentioned here, it seems likely that things were embellished, either by the author or family, but I believe something was left behind.
I don't understand if it was all fake for the Lutz family, why you would flee a house, leaving all belongings along with a boat and other vehicles for the chance that your story just might get well known and earn you more money. In hindsight it's now easy to say they were guaranteed a popular story, but if they really never did return and get any of their belongings back, I would say for sure something was definitely happening in that house.
A spoiled junkie kid off'd his family thinking he could get away with it and inherit some long money. Then an opportunistic family, in an attempt to cash out, hired a couple of now-known grifters to craft a story with the aid of the spoiled junkie's attorney. After nights of heavy drinking, and with several horror books as an aide, they formulated the BS hollywood-ish story. But that's not quite as entertaining, is it?
The warrens were grifters I heard the tape where they were making a deal for this movie.. the lutz family only got 70k the warrens got full rights to the movie forever.. dirty deeds done
No mystery. Psychopath rids himself of family. Ive been to Amityville, many times over the years. It went from a house needung paint and care to a with a perfect lawn, and trim hedges, and farden with a miranda, swung on the pirch, basketball set up in driveway etc So you see it was NEVER THE HOUSE THAT WAS EVIL. It was a human being !!
I DONT THINK HE DID THIS ALONE HIS OLDER SISTER WAS IN ON IT THE FACT IS THEY WANTED THEIR PARENTS DEAD THEIR WAS TWO GUNS THAT NIGHT IN THE AUTOPSY REPORT THEY NEVER SAID WHAT KIND OF BULLETS WERE TAKEN OUT OF THE BODIES????????
Amityville, the most classic tale of horror and paranormal genre where the lines between truth and fiction blurs. It's why I love it so much there's part of that convinces whatever happened in there can all be explained but then there's this other part that believes something beyond our realization and vision existed there or maybe still lingers. It is always such a pleasure to revisit this incredible story from different perspective and I really enjoyed the one you delivered. 🥰🥰🥰
I wish you and others would, this tragedy has caused so much pain and these poor people had their deaths dragged threw so much bullshit it's not right.
@@jackmortem4557 wow an astoundingly observance sir tell me did you also jerk it to Dahmer or any of the of the Bundy movies? Sorry if I'm old fashioned but I don't believe people should profit off of the loss of others.
A few people have said this, but when did the warrens claim it? The more likely explanation I've heard is that it's one of the investigators crouched. In a recent documentary one of the Lutz children points out they appear to be wearing the same shirt
According to lorraine warren the house after it was first built was then moved from its original location to its current location ! Incidentally the lutzes neglected to mention in their stories that they already knew ron defeo jr long before the murders happened ! which defeo claimed shortly before his death he had taken both cathy and george to purchase drugs several times (although after watching all of George's interviews he ever gave right up to his death) he did come across as more believable than defeo ! alough defeo had nothing to gain revealing that Information before his death ! As for the Warrens ! ( and i have followed their career) I believe Ed and his claims were a little Dubious to say the least and he was a bit of a verbal bully ! But Lorraine never had a Lying bone in her Body ! r.i.p. 😢❤🙏
I think the picture of the “boy” at the top of the stairs is actually the “pig” the Lutz’s daughter claimed to see. Looking at the face, it definitely could have piglike features.
This is so unrelated but do you scare yourself making these voice overs? or get spooked to the point where you have to stop? I watch these at work (to torture myself) and i got spooked at my desk
Haha, not while recording. I will admit one or two stories have got to me just because when I'm researching that kind of take over my life for a short period.
For anyone wondering, the short song clip at the start is the song 'The Real Thing' by Joe Williams. Which was co-written by Ronnie Defeo Snr.
RIP
*DeFeo
Funny the house next to the 108 Ocean view is blurred out on Google maps. I wonder why?
I just looked and you’re right it’s completely blurred
It was a hoax fueled by Hollywood and werrants
The murders are much more terrifying than any of the fake claims of paranormal activity afterward.
And the Defeo mob ties
The most mysterious part is how someone got off 7 shots of a Marlin rifle without waking everyone up. While a .30-30 lever action isn’t necessarily the loudest gun on earth, it still would be enough to wake the neighbors up with just one shot, yet alone half a dozen.
Sorry to tell you but the paranormal activity was real it was very much proven
@@davemccage7918if I thought a mob hit was going down I'd suddenly develop deafness as well
Never fails, Ed and Lorraine Warren show up and suddenly the stories get a lot more uhh..."creative".
Frauds who take advantage of the gullible.
Amazes me that in this day and age people believe they were legit. Fakes and con artists is what they were. Ed was also abusive and probably beat Lorraine.
@@cassieopia532That's the part I find most tragic. I genuinely believe Loraine. In that, what she saw she seriously believes she saw. Listening to her talk, she's a pretty clear example of someone with schizophrenia experiencing hallucinations brought on by extreme stress. Which then creates this grand delusion that she is some gifted psychic medium.
Ed on the other hand.. is a massive piece of shit for how he paraded her around and exploited her mental health issues for money. The way he treated so-called haunting victims is also horrendous.
Mental health has always been misunderstood in history as some sort of demonic or otherwise supernatural plight. However, the idea that a place or objects could be haunted is a relatively new idea. Ed and Loraine are the primary reason so many people to this day believe in haunted houses.
Ever wonder how every single haunted house in America was apparently only haunted between the 50s to the 90s? Ed died in 2006. Lorraine became a bit of recluse after his death, supposedly guarding the world from the nightmares they locked in their basement "museum". Without Ed to fabricate stories and write books, there haven't been any famous haunting cases since the couple stopped doing "investigations".
They were charlatans , when she passed away I'm pretty sure she got dealt with in the afterlife for her fake mystic powers And her husband did too.
And if there is a afterlife they're both being tortured or they're getting their butts kicked for disrespecting the dead the way they did their whole life
They were fakes.
How come nobody starts with who built the house and the families that lived there before Butch murdered his in it? That’s a giant chunk of the story missing! I’m not complaining, you did a great job and I love your channel! Just super curious about the birth of this monster house ya know…
Built on indigenous burial ground
No one ever had issues until the Lutz family and not since either. The book that was written is accused of being widely exaggerated and many are of the opinion that the Lutz family made a cash grab with sensationalism. No activity ever recorded either.
That ole chestnut, eh?
Because nothing ever happened before.
maybe it s just too long ago and theres no records anymore, idk "maybe"
The most frightening bit about that house is those freaky-a~s attic windows. Look at them. Seriously. Would you live in a house that appears to be looking at you? Not me.
I think they’ve actually been removed now.
@@TheTapeLibrarywhy were they removed?
@cherylween4973 They might have been removed so the house wouldn't be so easily identifiable. Just an idea.
That was Ronnie's bedroom, actually.
The new owners have squared them off and added shutters. It doesn't look creepy anymore.
In 1981 my family moved into a house with windows like those. It wasn't the same style of house as the Amityville house, it just had those windows on the third floor.
When we kids saw a picture of it, we all said "cool, it's just like the Amityville house!" 😅
To the best of my knowledge, that house isn't haunted.
Listening to this while im by myself in a high school in the middle of the night shutting it down for the evening was my first mistake.
Ah, yes. The never ending story.
Lorraine and Ed Warren PLUS George and Kathy Lutz WERE FRAUDS. THEY LIED. THE LUTZ FAMILY KNEW THE HOUSE'S HISTORY WELL BEFORE THEY BOUGHT IT.
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LORRAINE SERIOUSLY NEEDED PSYCHIATRIC HELP FOR HER DELUSIONS
I feel, see, communicate, smell and otherwise interact with Sprit ALL THE TIME. THE WARRENS AND LUTZES WERE FRAUDS.
Oh, and GEORGE LUTZ actually ADMITTED ON THE RECORD THEY MADE THE WHOKE DAMMED THING UP BECAUSE HE REALIZED HE COULD NOT AFFORD THE FREAKING MORTGAGE PAYMENT
He new what he was doing. This wasn't paranormal, it was just pure evil in human form .
As for the picture of s supposed child on the staircase with glowing eyes, it was debunked as one of the photographers sitting on the stairs and the glowing eyes were actually light reflected off of his glasses.. And also, if it was a child, he would have to be pretty tall for his head to be above the rails, common sense.
And even more there are People living at 412 Ocean to this day. Yes they changed the address right along with the quarter round windows.
The Amityville horror makes for a great story and that's all it is. A fantastic horror story. It's fiction. The absolute horror of the murders is sadly, all too real.
Heart disease is one of the most common causes of death the world over. So the fact that a few people associated with this story died from heart issues is not at all surprising. The only poorly explained thing that ever bothered me about this crime is how the entire family were shot in their beds? A rifle shot is extremely loud, anyone with any sanity on hearing that in their house, at night, would instantly wake up, get out of bed and GTFO! If the rumours were true about the bodies being placed in bed after the shootings, that'd make a bunch more sense.
Perhaps they were drugged at dinner with an untraceable substance? I tend to look for rational explanations.
@@CelestialWoodwaythey had no drugs found in their systems
On the Lutz' not talking about what happened that last night in the house, its funny because they seemingly couldnt stop talking about it to everyone on the talk show circuit while making the rounds multiple times. The one Lutz son has done a documentary called "My Amityville Horror" and it is really interesting. As far as them leaving all their possessions behind, it couldnt have been that much because all the Defaeo's belongings, furniture, etc were still in there while the Lutz's resided there. So leaving their stuff IMO doesnt give their story any more credibility.
IMO when it comes to the Warrens its been said they've never gone to house that wasnt haunted. I believe Lorraine had psychic sensitivities that were real. Ed I believe was a self proclaimed demonologist with no real credentials. More often then not, the couple was asked to leave locations for making problems worse, or due to Ed temper & profane laced tantrums. Its odd that in the multiple retellings of the Warren's cases these facts are conviently left out. As with at times they were never asked to these locations but showed up to them unannounced after reports became publicized. More than once it was Ed Warren who called the media to report on the cases himself. I dont know if some or all of these things are true. Like I said, I do believe Lorraine was the real deal which Ed kind of exploited to give him some level of credibility. Now that they have both passed it will be interesting to see if they pay anyone a visit proving their theories on the afterlife & paranormal. Personally, I believe, but I think there are somethings while on this mortal coil we were not meant to know, but that doesnt mean I dont find reviewing paranormal cases & doing investgations any less fascinating.
The Amityville Horror gets more ridiculous with each retelling. Sadly, whats often overlooked is that an unstable son took the lives of his 6 imediate family members one night. They were real people who have must expwrienced unimaginable horror at the hands of someone they knew & loved. Thats the real horror that actually happened in that house the rest is up to everyone else to figure on whether the hauntings & possessions are true or not.
They also would get (or try to) people’s permission to write books on their “hauntings”. Grifters.
After reading and watching so much on the Warrens, I'm convinced that Ed was a complete grifter and that his wife was probably halfway innocent and a "true believer". She might have had some type of psychic talent and Ed used that to make money off of whatever publicity he could drum up.
@Sarah-said
Thank you, sounds like we feel comparable, I thought I maybe alone in my opinion of them.
@@eviehammond9509 At the time the Lutz's fled the house, Ronnie DeFeo was still changing his story - often. His trial hadn't started yet. Rumor has it that his lawyer and George & Kathy and Jay Anson met over dinner and wine one night... some money exchanged hands and the "haunting" began. Perhaps, if the house was "possessed" then Ronnie'd have yet another excuse to use in court. Maybe just a rumor. Maybe not.
@littleblueowl216
What I find haunting, for the lack of a better word about this case is all the victims were found in bed & had not been moved or drugged & no one in the neighborhood ever heard any shots fired from such a powerful rifle. Those facts are scarier to me than anything Hollywood, the Lutz' s or even the Warren's could whip up.
I couldn’t move into a house that had a murder occur inside it.
I could big time
It’s a nice house in a great neighborhood. No one who has lived in it since the murders has experienced anything unusual (including the hoaxers who claimed it was haunted). The biggest nuisance subsequent owners have experienced are the gawkers and voyeurs who have invaded their privacy and treated their home like a morbid tourist attraction.
Read up on John List from Westfield, NJ. He slaughtered his family, and years later, he was caught. The house it where the murders took place "mysteriously" burned down months later. The talk at that time was because of what happened, no one would buy the place.
Hoax or not it is still a great ghost story. Well done.
The Entity is also good
The smell and black coating of things in the house could have been Stachybotrys, a toxic mould. Given the proximity of the house to water, it wouldn’t be a surprise. This mould very nasty neurological effects . The flies were probably cluster flies which cluster together as the name suggests. For winter hibernation The family could have been incapacitated by carbon monoxide. They would not have woken up under its affect. The neighbours lied about not hearing shots because they would get the blame for not doing anything and missing the chance to save at least some of the family members.
Great points- all with sound, scientific reasoning.
i dont think ive seen a scientific expanation as good this great points and very understandable looking at this
How do you just get incapacitated from carbon monoxide? from what i know you dont come back from it
Some of those theories are complete rubbish, the neighbors would have called the police or at least admitted they might have heard something, the idea they heard it and denied is based on unlikely assumptions and conjecture. Also, Carbon Monoxide doesn't incapacitate like that, it's not known for causing sleep paralysis and it would have incapacitated the shooter as well, it's quite simply impossibly convenient that the shooter, the only insane person, would be the only one unaffected, your "scientific theory" is based on more fantasy than childrens books as far as those 2 theories go.
The black mold checks out, it's usually very underestimated, definitely a contributing factor for the murders, but not the reason. But I'm not sure what you were getting at with the flies, it's a fairly insignificant point.
@@Sarah-saidIf you think Carbon Monoxide incapacitating everyone in the house except the murderer is scientific you need a reality check, that and neighbors not reporting something they did hear are more science fiction that the tooth fairy.
What happened? A family moved into a house where a tragic event occurred and then found out they couldn't afford it. So, they colluded with a pair of hucksters to make up a story.
Exactly .aThe Lutz’s couldn’t afford to live in that house for two months !, The Warren’s we’re fakes . The whole story is a joke .
Except unfortunately, this all happened.
Thank you, someone with some common sense. 👏🏼
I lived over in Lindenhurst a few miles away for years and literally none of the locals believe any of it. It’s a nice house in a nice neighbourhood. The one fact in the whole story is that some lowlife murdered his family there, every single thing said since then has been lies. The family who live there now have been there since 2016 and said the only weird thing that happens is random people off the internet turning up to take pictures and trespass on their property.
Yet they had the mockery hey for a new boat and custom motorcycles but left them at the house when they fled? doesn't add up if it was purely a bad financial move.
They didnt leave shit lol@WhiteIkiryo-yt2it
The weird thing is that after the lutz experience in the house. It is noted that nothing paranormal happened ever again and that owners now are at peace.
The Lutz’s story was exposed as fake decades ago, in a series of court cases and lawsuits, involving many of the people they dealt with. For example they approached De Feo’s lawyer before even buying the house, asking for detailed information on that murder case.
That they did this as a get rich scheme is far from incredible, as movies about the supernatural were at peak popularity at the time.
But, you know… if you believe in ghosts and magic, feel free to ignore the inconvenient facts surrounding this story.
I think being sceptical about what the Lutz family claimed happened is sensible. However I think it's also fairly sensible to be sceptical of the claims of William Webber and Ronnie. One of whom apparently fell out with the Lutz family over the money, the other changed his story repeatedly. Unless I'm mistaken nothing has ever been proven or disproved.
Mark Twain said, "Never let the truth get in the way of a good story."
I believe the story told by Ron Jr in the last interview he gave before he died in prison like he said I'm gonna tell you the truth I'm dieing and I'm never going to get out of prison. The Lutz family and the haunting was nothing but a grift to make money.
Exactly. The Murders happened but the following haunting has been debunked many times.
Didn't one of the Lutz kids come out and say it was bull
Oh I'm sorry I should have added more to that I try to keep my comments short. I believe Ron Jr on how he said the murders went down you can find the interview on TH-cam. Then I was saying the Lutz had the haunting planned before they even moved in.
@@l.p3861 idk I seen an interview with the one son Danny Lutz and he still claims it to be real but with the trauma his parents put him through he possibly could really think it did happen
@@tinapuddin9923i actually watched that lastnight but i cant find the 2nd part i was curious what happened from that point on as he was saying him and his sister did it but she died also
You've done a terrific job with this. As a 70s child, I grew up with, and have never tired of, this story.
The same !
His story has changed many many times.
I grew up on Long Island. In the 80s My dad worked with someone who lived next door to this house. My parents went to a party at the co-workers house, and of course the topic came up. It was said that the current neighbors did not experience anything like the Lutz family had while living there. I highly recommend the book if you haven’t read it yet - it’s very creepy.
There is a documentary about Kathy's oldest son. He tells his story of what happened at the house. He claimed that George was into the occult. He made it sound like some of the events at the house were George's fault due to this.
@elizabethnasekapow7351 wasnt this the same woman who kept a teenage girl in her basement for her husband to sleep with, something tells me she pretty much at the gates by now
Yeah, I saw that. It was a huge detail left out of all the stories. I think there’s far less paranormal stuff going on about the story and far more just about a man messing with the occult in a place he shouldn’t have been doing it.
I read a book about this story, and it said that the Lutz's were into meditation/yoga....not the occult.
I used to be heavily invloved in the occult and other than occasional night terrors, I made it out fine.
All hocum really
@@chadreynolds108transcendental meditation, iirc, and a lot of people tend to use the term “occult” very loosely to apply to anything from yoga to crystals to homeopathy
I read the book when I was teenager in the 70’s and LOVED it, as I did all stories like it. I remember that the Lutzesstated at the beginning of the book how important it was for their story to be told with the utmost adherence to the truth. When I saw the movie I was bothered by how much was changed, exaggerated or simply made up. But even then I knew that Hollywood does that so I dismissed it. But then I saw a television interview with the Lutzes, some talk show, and they were asked if they felt the movie truthfully told their story and they unequivocally said yes, absolutely. That one moment made me believe they were full of it. This video’s concluding chapter confirmed it.
I don't think their story was entirely made up. I think they may have experienced some poltergeist activity. Maybe brought on by their own collective anxiety and hysteria about living in the house so shortly after the murders.
I think they thought their real story would be worth telling but when Jay Ansen met up with them he didn't - and convinced them to add the elements needed to make it into the ghost story we all know. George & Kathy probably didn't realise they'd still be talking about it 30 years later. They just needed the money and accepted that Ansen would have to 'bend the truth' to make it salesworthy.
That's just my opinion anyway.Oh - and the picture of 'the boy' - it's one of the investigators. There are other pictures where you can clearly see a blond haired, check shirt wearing guy with spectacles among them who is really onbviously the kid. I can't remember his name, but he is known and has agreed since that the picture is of him and the 'glowing eyes' are reflections of his thick 70's prescription glasses.
A number of years ago, I purchased a used dvd of a documentary which included the Lutz's young son, now a grown man, being interviewed.
He heavily implies that the story was concocted, but says that his father engaged in witchcraft, and that the house felt evil because of him. He seemed pretty scarred by the publicity of being dragged onto talk shows and constantly referred to as The Amityville Boy.
DeFeo, Sr. and Mr.Lutz both seem to have been intimidating characters.
The house itself looks very nice, but I'm sure it's giving off creepy vibes by now, regardless of the haunting hoax.
Even if that house wasnt haunted, I still wouldnt feel comfortable knowing what happened there
I live in an apartment complex that use to be a hospital and my landlord says she gets a lot of complaints from the West wing of the building where I live. I found out by going to a local museum about 5 years after I moved here, that my Apt is where the morgue was located.😮
So believe me, I believe in things that go bump in the night.
These things are so commonplace that once I actually felt SOMETHING lay down in bed with me. I could feel and see the mattress sag and yet while it weirded me out, I wasn't afraid really. I just yelled, "get out of my bed! You cannot sleep in my freaking bed!" And I swear it just got up & I could hear it leave the room .
I just ask them "not to hurt me or my pets..You were here first. But it would be nice if ya pitched in on the rent sometimes".😅
With all that said, I DO believe Butch DeFeo massacred his family but his attorney,WHO HAPPENED TO BE THE LUTZ' ATTORNEY, made up the whole "devil made me do it" to 1. Get Ronnie off and 2. To get the Lutz family out of a huge mortgage that they could ill afford .
How come since then, nobody else has had trouble in that house? They've interviewed owners who said their only trouble was with looky-loos and pranks + teenagers around Halloween .
Now Butch DeFeo said his lawyer made a lot of this stuff up & I think that's the only true thing he said
can’t believe this is such a young channel. so much skill! loves it
Thank you so much! Appreciate the love
I agree!
Deserves a million subs!
B@@TheTapeLibrary you didn't cover that George lutz purchased all the defeo furniture and that his son claimed he would practice black magic, his son claims the entities msy have been invited into the house that couldnt be controlled so George lutz decided to leave
@@Dinvadbhatmarathi98there's tons of information on what happened at Amityville and it would take several hours just to cover a tenth of the info.
At the time the Lutz's fled the house, Ronnie DeFeo was still changing his story - often. His trial hadn't started yet. Rumor has it that his lawyer and George & Kathy and Jay Anson met over dinner and wine one night... some money exchanged hands and the "haunting" began. Perhaps, if the house was "possessed" then Ronnie'd have yet another excuse to use in court. Maybe just a rumor. Maybe not.
This wasn’t just a rumour; the lawyer revealed this in interviews.
The Lutz's lawyer came up with that when they cut him loose. Plus George and Kathy should be screenwriters instead of putting money into a house and then banking on a book/movie deal (who even thinks of that).
I remember reading the book when I was in my early teens and it terrified me. 😅
I saw the movie when I was 18 and it was the scariest movie I had seen at the time.
Me too! I slept with the lights on for over a week.
@@jessicapfeiffer7950 my dad wouldn't have allowed me to do that.
That comment supposedly by Ronnie’s grandfather. “You take the blame”. If that’s true then it supports abuse
The whole "you take the blame" and "I don't want to hear any more about your sister" to me makes it sound like Ronnie was implicating his sister as well as himself in the murders. I'm not sure if that really points to abuse? But you might be right. It does seem like Ronnie Snr had a violent side, at least towards Jr.
It was no secret that DeFeo Sr. was a very violent and abusive man, regularly beating on Louise as well as his kids. Michael Brigante, Louise's father, who was also up to his neck in the New York mafia, had gotten wind of his son-in-law's abuse of his daughter and his grandchildren. Sometime in September of that year, Louise's friend and housekeeper had been there and she overheard when two men in business suits rang the doorbell one afternoon and told Louise to tell her husband that if he ever hit her again, he'd end up dead. Also, there was ALMOST an active hit out on DeFeo, but Ronnie jr. told his grandfather that he'd take care of it, and that it would happen sometime in early December "somewhere in the city." I have studied this case and read everything I can about it; little John Matt, as he was affectionately called, was the very same age as I was at that time, he was born in late october, 1965, also like me, so I've always had a special place in my heart for that little boy, along with the rest of them who lost their lives that night as well.
No, it doesn't- polygraphs are notoriously unreliable, only ever achieving 50/50 accuracy. Calling it a lie-detector is as genuine as using that term to describe a tennis shoe.
Moreover, it's on record somewhere that Ed Warren was involved somehow in the making of the book. He said something on the lines of, "just make it scary". So that should say a good bit about not only this case, but Ed's credibility.
I never hear enough of this subject. I am addicted to this channel. Excellent narration and editing. I need more! 👍❤✌
That's what I like to hear! Thank you :)
I totally agree. I can’t get enough and I live 20 minutes from Amityville. Only saw the house once because my friend lived in the town at the time, not too far from the house. It’s a gorgeous home no doubt, too bad the events that took place there were so terribly tragic.
@@RandomComment6does the house have a unsettling atmosphere to it? I know its a beautiful home in a really nice location, but if half of the things are true with the hauntings, I wouldn't want to be any where near it.
Better to be addicted to a channel than Heroin
There had been no reports of any strange happenings of the house ever being haunted until after the unfortunate murders of the DeFeo family.
That’s pretty self evident ..just sayin
Because there is nothing there, no lost souls, no demon, just sadnessn
@@morbidone88Well that's just like your opinion man
@Ner0mancer burden of proof falls on the one making the claim, not the other way around. There is no evidence of anything supernatural other than people's ability to lie or exaggerate or even understand what they are seeing or experiencing. There's nothing wrong with saying 'I don't know', but you fruits go straight to 'of course it's real, just look!' Or 'I experienced this myself!' Experiences can be shared without a correlation to one or the other whatsoever. Grow up, ghost stories are for fun, not to be believed 🍻
@@morbidone88 Youre a fruit also, going straight for " it's not real"..😊
Im from long island and we dont have a clue what happened still. My parents were 24. Took us to that house a million times and actually has a great aura! Im also well aware that like ALL of long island is cursed by native americans. All of our towns are named after tribes that we colonized!! Who WOULDNT haunt this place? But that house? No. Lake Ronkonkoma.... yes.
I don't think there was anything paranormal about this case, but I sure as hell would like to know exactly what happened that night. How did none of them hear multiple blasts from a high powered rifle?
And it's not true that the Lutz's used the same furniture the DeFeos used. It was all replaced
Thanks. I can never get enough Amityville!
I have no idea how everyone didn't wake up after the first shots. I have a Marlin in .35 Remington, it's a very loud supersonic cartridge.
No suppressor could have been used.
There is evidence that the mother and one of his sisters was awake during the shooting. He could have committed the murders so quickly that the victims probably didn’t have the time to realize what was going on.
The infamous “Red Room” was a cupboard.
The “Ghost Boy” is clearly someone crouched down wearing glasses, the light is reflecting off the lenses, one can even see the frames of the glasses quite clearly.
How that photograph frightened so many over the years, and was believed, is bewildering.
I wouldn’t believe anything the Warren’s said. And I’m not sure what is meant by “twelve month span” as The Lutz’s were only in the house for 28 days, possibly less.
I did enjoy this video though, very well made and narrated.
Agreed, the Warren's were con artists and media whores.
If you look closely at the photo of what is claimed to be one of the deceased children you can clearly see what definitely looks like glasses. I have never noticed that before and now I cannot unsee it .
Mentioned elsewhere that you can find comparisons to that picture and one of the investigators in the house and it very well could be him. They do deny being on that floor when the picture was taken though. Regardless of if there is an explanation for it, it still creeps me the hell out.
@@TheTapeLibrary agreed.
The picture of the boy has been debunked. As being a photograph of a kneeling technician with glasses and a small figure. The glowing eyes are a reflection of the glasses. If you look closely you can see the frame of the glasses especially at the right side of the head.
Unfortunately I forgot where I saw this being debunked ... it was another youtube channel. It should be common knowledge by now.
So you were spot on without knowing... maybe a career in forensics is on the horizon 😊
Btw .... I adore this channel ❤️ ❤❤
This is probably one of the most thorough treatments of the Amityville case I have ever watched - really well done. I always wondered about the gunfire that no one heard as well. Although the subsequent haunting has been proven to be a hoax, there were never any solutions offered for how no neighbors heard those original rifle shots. Weird to say the least.
Old houses are not made of tofu dregs. Well constructed houses with plaster and lath interior walls are known for their ability to deaden sound waves. That's all I have got.
@@martkbanjoboy8853I've never heard of houses made of tofu dregs but it's true that older houses were usually built solid and sound doesn't carry nearly as well in them as it does in most modern homes. Still, the Amityville house was built a little less than a hundred years ago and it wasn't built with thick stone walls like ancient castles. I've heard a shotgun being shot off on the other side of a house and there's no way anyone within the Amityville house could have sleep through that sound. I couldn't hear normally for at least ten minutes after and the neighbors two blocks away heard it being fired. It doesn't make sense that no one heard any of the shots being fired and that none of the Defao children got up to check on each other.
@@Sarah-saidHey. Do not make the mistake I believe the malarkey about the perpetrator killing the entire family like it was a professional hit. It was not. The guy got his hands on the father's Marlin 336 carbine, chambered in a cartridge having more game stopping power at point blank range than a .30/30. That is a grisly fact. The mental image coming to mind with regards to the entire crime from start to finish is a messy horrific bloodbath. The tale about the perp having supernatural powers to be able to commit the crime in complete silence strikes me as literal cynical and disrespectful gossip thought up by some idiotic drug addled Hollyweird scriptwriter. Comments on social media about capital crimes is a bunch of blah - flum. The official court records have the real info devoid of disrespectful Hollyweird blah - flum.
@@martkbanjoboy8853i never believed in the paranormal
@@Sarah-said Tofu Dregs is a slang term from China, it means being made from low quality materials
I don’t believe in this or any of the ghosts stories. If the new family wasn’t religious, why would they have a priest inspecting the house? Once an idea is planted, all you needed was human imagination and hysteria.
It’s terrifying that they felt ok moving in that soon afterwards, and using the same beds. Gives me chills! Awesome video and narration!
Sorry for the confusion. Two weeks after the trial, not the murders.
@@TheTapeLibrary I’m so sorry for misunderstanding! I’ll change my reply!
@@HeatherSummerRaine no worries! Can see how it may have sounded like that
It’s not at all terrifying, as there were no supernatural elements to the murder case, and they bought the house specifically to start spinning the yarn they thought would make them rich.
Before moving in, they already had an author ready to publish the story and had spent some time interviewing De Feo’s lawyer on details of the murder case.
21:56 IMO, it doesn't appear that the boy in the picture has glowing eyes as was suggested. It just looks like the flash of the camera reflected off the glasses he was obviously wearing. Does a ghosts glasses reflect light?
You did an AWESOME a job with this bro! I live one town over from this house, have me whole life of 45 years, which btw on LI is about ten minutes away. Anyways, I’ve heard many retelling of these stories, but this was probably one of the best
To me it doesn't look like eyes glowing in that picture. It looks like a kid wearing glasses and the glare is from the flash of the camera.
If I hadn’t just watched a far more convincing documentary explaining what really happened, how the hoax was conceived, the deal between the Lutz’s original author that fell through over a disagreement … you might have almost had me.
The somewhat ethereal-bordering-on-ASMR voiceover was an especially nice touch. Bravo!
32:20 Or it suggests they're very comfortable with lying. That's part of why polygraphs are so unreliable.
I love channels like this. Amityville is one of the most powerful mysterious Paranormal stories I have ever heard of. It's one of those things you never get tired of hearing and you never stop questioning.
Yup yup I agree
It's basically the Titanic of the paranormal world.
@@maddisonjohnson4308the Titanic was down on purpose
You never get tired of hearing lies? Weird way to live.
The only fact in the whole story is that some sick idiot blew his family away. EVERY single other thing is pure lies and speculation.
I feel bad for the poor girl at 29:06 , whose childhood friend was murdered, having to go back to the house that undoubtedly held a lot of memories of that friend because a group of people were lying about the place for publicity
Ronnie was just a loser that refused to take responsibility for his actions
I suspect dad wasn’t abusing him. Dad knew his son was a loser and was trying his damnedest to straighten him out.
I think the Lutz’s were looking to make a buck tbh!
When you look deep enough into the abyss, sometimes the abyss looks back, especially when under severe trauma and chemical drugs. That would be my conclusion
It's been a long, long time since I've thought about Amityville and the Lutz family.
And every once in a purple moon, I get sucked back in.
I don't know the Lutz's personally, but my brother was best friends with the cousin of Christopher Lutz. The mother's were related.
My parent's, little brother and I were living in Flagstaff, Az at the time. Our other brother was in the military.
One day, my little brother gets a call from his friend Chris saying his cousins were in town and if he'd like to meet them. He said yes, and went up the hill to me them.
A few hours had passed when my brother comes running into the house slamming the door behind him. He was scared to death.
When he calmed down, he told me Christopher Lutz and his sister showed them some pictures of the house. Two pictures I remember him telling me about was a photo of the Chinese Dragons at the foot of the staircase. There was some kind of mist over them - like a super imposed photo over them. Their eyes were blood red, the smile showed fangs and they seemed alive.
The 2nd photo was of the windows on the first floor landing. On the right side of the window, there was a "demonic" pig face, red eyes, smiling at the camera.
My poor little brother was so scared he slept in my room for 2 weeks.
A lot of paranormal stuff began happening in our home, which I won't discuss now because it's nothing compared to what came later.
About 4-5 months later, Chris, his sister and a bunch of friends decided to play with the ouija board. My brother didn't participate ('cause he knows better) and left.
Chris, my brothers best friend, was going to die from strangulation, his sister would die from losing a leg, one girl's house would catch fire...........
Chris, did die from strangulation. It was late at night and he was on Lake Mary rd. when his pickup hit a patch of black ice and flipped over. Chris was hanging upside down in the cab. He was trying to undo his seatbelt, but kept slipping downward. He was strangled to death by the seatbelt.
During Christmas break, his sister went down to Mexico with a bunch of her high school friends.
She was on the back of an ATV when out of no where, an unmanned ATV side swipped the ATV her and her friend were on. It mangled her leg.
She was taken to a hospital in Mexico City for treatment. Gangrene set in and she got sceptic. The doctors were going to amputate her leg, but
she was air evacked to Phoenix Children's hospital where they managed to save her leg.
The last I heard from Chris Lutz was about 20+ years ago. At that time, he was living in Phoenix, still obsessing about Amytiville.
I have no desire, nor does my little brother of being in contact with him. Bad, bad things happen to people when they do.
oh wow, thanks for sharing!
Butch was on the Heroin. I'm sure he was rational and a upstanding young man 😅😅
I just came across this channel today. I love it. I already subscribed. I remember this story very well. Many videos on it but this one is near the best of them. ❤
Thank you!
Thank you for all the great content! Love this channel.
I’ve always been fascinated with the story of this house and the fact that’s Lauren’s went to explore it. I also specially loved the story of this because I live 15-20 mins away from this house and I can say for my self seeing this house in person you can actually feel something weird about the house ,not just on the house but the surrounding of the property.
Am I the only one who would buy that house if I had the chance to.
I want it for Tape Library headquaters
If I owned the house. You could use it for your headquartered.
Greetings - just stumbled across your channel, and I'm glad I did. This video is EXCELLENT. Thank you.
Welcome!
My mother In law lives right down the block from the house. It’s absolutely beautiful. South Amity is one of my fav neighborhoods on Long Island
I would think the shots would have woken others.... But I guess everyone froze in fear...
No....Dawn killed her father and the kids, while a friend of Ronnie's had shot Louise, but she was still alive and moaning and whimpering, so Ronnie fired the final, fatal shot to "put her out of misery," as he would say years later. Also, New York homicide detective Herman Race had ALWAYS INSISTED that Dawn had fired a gun that night. By most accounts of those who knew the family, Dawn was the most volatile of the DeFeo children, not Ronnie Jr. She had also tried to stab her father earlier that same night during a fight over her wanting to leave that house and be with her boyfriend in Florida.
Then there's the DEA agent who was staked out across from the house that night who said he saw Dawn walk out holding a rifle. He, too, never heard any gunfire that night.
@@jamescarrington5521Interesting! Thanks for the extra info! 🙏🏻
@@jamescarrington5521 All lies. No one except Defeo reported any of that happened. Every piece of evidence shows one shooter. And AT LEAST 3 OF THEM WERE AWAKE when they got shot, proven with evidence in reports and autopsies.
Cameras had been around an awfully long time, before this family moved into that house. We saw photos of the various family members, indicating they owned a camera. You're telling me, that all this stuff is supposedly going on, and no-body thought "Hey let's take a photo of this, you know so people don't think we are lying about it later." As for spooky feelings of ominous beings lurking about, have you ever watched a horror movie, and then had creepy feelings for even days or weeks afterwards? This family bought a house where six people had been murdered not long before. They would have heard about the murders, and spoken with their neighbours and people around town. I have no doubt that they started having creepy feelings after ingesting all that information, so would anyone. This was clearly an attempt by the Lutz family to make a quick buck.
That picture of the so called boy you can see the glasses easily on the investors face of you look hard enough
Yeah I can definitely see that, they do claim no one was up there at the time but of course in all of these cases you can never be sure. I think you can find comparisons of one of the investigators to the picture online and there is definitely a similarity
He was up for parole started 1999 but he was refused like 18 times an died of cancer in 2021
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This looks really good finally someone wants to tell the real story
The case of George Lutz claiming to be constantly cold in the house all the time is not surprising, all they had was a coal fire to heat up such a big house.
Not true at all! The house had an oil fired boiler that provided "steam heat" through the heating system's plumbing and cast iron radiators. Where in Hell did you ever get the idea that it was a coal furnace heating system? You can clearly see the large ugly radiators throughout the house.
Crazy how so many people know so much information about this case!
New subscriber really enjoyed this video. Wow that pic of what is thought is a boy but because you zoomed in I actually believe it was the investigator with glasses as I can see the frames.
Welcome! Yeah I can see that, but does he not appear to be child height? Could he be crouching? Either way the photo gives me the creeps.
@@TheTapeLibrary it gives me the creeps also I normally look away when that part of anybody's video is about to show it lol. I watched your video today in regards to sleep paralysis and will be commenting on my experience. Great content!
Personally I think it was definitely a child. No adult man's face is that small frankly. Thus I think they had a kid in there for the photo despite what the Warrens claimed. After all they were clearly not above such chicanery were they. I mean, look at their museum. LOL.
@@TheTapeLibraryCrouching to take the photo. The simplest explanation is usually the most likely.
One of the questions i always had was,how in the hell did he manage to fire all those rounds,in the middle of the night,nothing to supress the sound of the shots,and no one,not in the house or outside of it,like neighbors,was able to hear a single noise from it? No one heard anything,the neighbors said they had heard nothing. Even his family,one by one,yet nobody woke up with the sound of gunfire? It's a pretty loud sound,especially índoors where the sound will bounce and echo off of the walls and travel thru the house. That is something that always has puzzled me, something i find dificult to understand.
I just found your page and I am enjoying it very much. I was wondering if you have ever heard of the Entity. That one is horrible it scared the S*** out of me as a kid. Anyway keep up the good work.
I'm so glad that you touched on the weird relationship of Ronnie and Dawn. Yet only very few have never talked about Ronnie, his wife, and his kid.
My opinion, the residual energy of the horrific murders alone could very well affect that family. As been discussed over the years, and as mentioned here, it seems likely that things were embellished, either by the author or family, but I believe something was left behind.
Jason chuff love to watchthis but veryverysadoverthekillerkilling of it saddayinhellagain?mm?
the fact that my cat, whose name is Pig, sat right in front of me looking at my face the instant the cat named Piggy part came on
Omg! Why not ask the people that lived near there or knew and saw the whole thing happen?
I don't understand if it was all fake for the Lutz family, why you would flee a house, leaving all belongings along with a boat and other vehicles for the chance that your story just might get well known and earn you more money. In hindsight it's now easy to say they were guaranteed a popular story, but if they really never did return and get any of their belongings back, I would say for sure something was definitely happening in that house.
This and the DR60 voice recorder are the biggest paranormal hoaxes ever
A spoiled junkie kid off'd his family thinking he could get away with it and inherit some long money. Then an opportunistic family, in an attempt to cash out, hired a couple of now-known grifters to craft a story with the aid of the spoiled junkie's attorney. After nights of heavy drinking, and with several horror books as an aide, they formulated the BS hollywood-ish story.
But that's not quite as entertaining, is it?
The warrens were grifters I heard the tape where they were making a deal for this movie.. the lutz family only got 70k the warrens got full rights to the movie forever.. dirty deeds done
No mystery. Psychopath rids himself of family. Ive been to Amityville, many times over the years. It went from a house needung paint and care to a with a perfect lawn, and trim hedges, and farden with a miranda, swung on the pirch, basketball set up in driveway etc So you see it was NEVER THE HOUSE THAT WAS EVIL. It was a human being !!
Farden with a miranda? Swung on the pirch?
Bro, are you having a stroke??
There are kids playing in front yard and a dog 😅 last time I drove by the house saw a family living a normal life
One thing I never thought of till now is why did they not look into Ronnie’s claims of abuse? If it was a woman or child they’d focus on that.
Yes if he shot just his father he may have testified to a defense shooting. But he murdered them all .
Not back then, people didn't question what parents did to their kids.
He slaughtered his whole family, including innocent younger brothers/sisters. The man is a psychopath.
I don't believe the house was haunted before George Lutz, moved in.
I DONT THINK HE DID THIS ALONE HIS OLDER SISTER WAS IN ON IT THE FACT IS THEY WANTED THEIR PARENTS DEAD THEIR WAS TWO GUNS THAT NIGHT IN THE AUTOPSY REPORT THEY NEVER SAID WHAT KIND OF BULLETS WERE TAKEN OUT OF THE BODIES????????
New subscriber here, this channel is so great!! This is the exact content I love, can't wait to binge through the catalog!
Welcome aboard!
I can listen to your voice forever, thank you.
Thanks! :)
Does it make you wet ?
Could it be that the young boy in the picture is actually a grown man with glasses? Given the perspective the picture is taken from
Movie was rather a joke. The book was chilling.
Ronny DeFeo was a violent drug addict but we blame the house.
This channel is amazing. Discovered it this week. Hoping i am one of many new viewers
Amityville, the most classic tale of horror and paranormal genre where the lines between truth and fiction blurs. It's why I love it so much there's part of that convinces whatever happened in there can all be explained but then there's this other part that believes something beyond our realization and vision existed there or maybe still lingers. It is always such a pleasure to revisit this incredible story from different perspective and I really enjoyed the one you delivered. 🥰🥰🥰
The shots were timed with the thunder of that night, hence, the neighbors did not hear correctly. This was evil for sure.
Wait so when the lutz bought the house the beds where still there and they slept in them? Thats crazy who does that
Someone with a plan to spin a hoax.
This is one subject I never get tired of
Thanks for watching!
I wish you and others would, this tragedy has caused so much pain and these poor people had their deaths dragged threw so much bullshit it's not right.
@@travismcdoyalthen don't watch it, mate.
@@jackmortem4557 wow an astoundingly observance sir tell me did you also jerk it to Dahmer or any of the of the Bundy movies? Sorry if I'm old fashioned but I don't believe people should profit off of the loss of others.
21:43 Is actually a real child. It's one of the kids of the people there during thr investigation. The Warren's said this year's later.
A few people have said this, but when did the warrens claim it? The more likely explanation I've heard is that it's one of the investigators crouched. In a recent documentary one of the Lutz children points out they appear to be wearing the same shirt
True have to look wayyyyy back to the first owners
According to lorraine warren the house after it was first built was then moved from its original location to its current location ! Incidentally the lutzes neglected to mention in their stories that they already knew ron defeo jr long before the murders happened ! which defeo claimed shortly before his death he had taken both cathy and george to purchase drugs several times (although after watching all of George's interviews he ever gave right up to his death) he did come across as more believable than defeo ! alough defeo had nothing to gain revealing that Information before his death ! As for the Warrens ! ( and i have followed their career) I believe Ed and his claims were a little Dubious to say the least and he was a bit of a verbal bully ! But Lorraine never had a Lying bone in her Body ! r.i.p. 😢❤🙏
I think the picture of the “boy” at the top of the stairs is actually the “pig” the Lutz’s daughter claimed to see. Looking at the face, it definitely could have piglike features.
This is so unrelated but do you scare yourself making these voice overs? or get spooked to the point where you have to stop? I watch these at work (to torture myself) and i got spooked at my desk
Haha, not while recording. I will admit one or two stories have got to me just because when I'm researching that kind of take over my life for a short period.
There was nothing supernatural about this. Watch the interview with Ronny Jr.
Ronnie Jr might be the most unreliable narrator in a story full of them. While this certainly could be a hoax, Ronnie changed his story a lot.