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As a shadow main since TBC, and never got a real chance to play Cataclysm as I wanted back in it's days, I have been looking forward to these changes. I think one thing I am looking forward to the most is actually something u didn't mention, which was shadowy apparitions, which has a chance to spawn on SWP ticks but also has an increased proc chance when you are moving.
Mind Spike with DS 4 piece set is absolute wrecking ball. Set causes your Shadow Fiend to generate 3 Shadow Orbs each time it attacks and each Shadow Orb increases damage of your Mind Spike and Mind Blast by like 30%(or even more depending on your Mastery)
@Spotnick2 Wtf? What are you talking about? 1) 1 new really cool CD for each spec (GoAK) 2) Holy power makes the specc feel like it actually requires some thinking, and not the potato specc it is in Wotlk. 3) Holy Paladin is just miles better as a whole. Hapaladins can now AoE heal. 4) Ret specc got a very cool ability (Templar's Veredict) which I even remember how cool was its sound effect. Also, Ret Pala have actual mechanics to master (Like Divine Inquisition). 5) Prot specc now has more survavility in the form of Word of Glory and the bonus Def they get from using Shield of the Righteous. 6) The resistance Auras have been merged (which is fantastic) 7) BoK and BoW were also merged into one. 8) Paladins are now encouraged to actually use Plate, instead of going for w/e the fuck they want. May I go on?? There's no exception, Cataclysm classes are miles better than Wotlk classes.
@@josedavidmunozmartinez4722I mained holy pally all through the original wrath and I hate cata pally healing lol. But I love ret and prot in cata and basically every other class. Cata was so good but definitely get the hate for holy pally in cata.
@@JoshLineberry Well, maybe you were used to healing by only pressing 1 button. I absolutely loved Hpala in Cata because it was the first time that we actually had mechanics and had to think about our mana. Not to mention the fact that before Cata, Hpaladin was the only healer without any form of AoE in their kit, which Cata helped A LOT.
@@josedavidmunozmartinez4722 I mean I use a bunch of different buttons when I heal 😂😂 I also heal on druid, priest, and shaman. Pally is the least fun to me in cata. Disc priest became my favorite healer in cata.
cata and pandaria were the absolute best for class design and class fun. i loved how modular the MOP talents were. Incarn feral? or force/soul of the forest to spice things up?
Ye disc is insane, Archangel is a great spell and smite/holyfire spam can bank up divine aegis shields aswell. on whitemane disc priests pulling about 10-15k dps plus their supportive benefit is great for assisting in dps checks aswell. a vod about dk changes would be great because the blood changes are massive and honestly game changing for the tank meta
Can I ask what private server footage is this recorded on? I want to play and prepare for cata classic but don't know what are popular raiding PvE pservers
Incredible name on the priest. I'm gonna be bummed not seeing 20+ rapture procs but these changes to look fun. Never got to play priest in cata back in the day.
Would love to see Death Knight or shaman next! Just leveled a DK on whitemane and man is tanking as blood an absolute blast. Had a healer D/C right before a boss and i didn't realize it, struggled a little on the boss then we all realized the priest wasnt even there 🤣 Ended up clearing like 3 more trash mobs after the boss too. My self healing and absorbs are ridiculous.
I know Bliz and WoW have some serious issues (and it’s worth talking about them.) That said, I’m really liking the upbeat and informational tone of these recent videos.
Wouldn't it still be optimal to update a dot exactly as it falls off? Still gives you the most damage per global. If you update your dots with 1/4 of the time left, you're wasting 1/4 of a global. You might want to update it in the last milliseconds so you don't lose any ticking time, but you could use those 3 seconds to mind flay. What am I missing?
Atonement was not optimal and rarely used back in the days, it really only become mainstream in Mists of Pandaria. I'll be curious to see how it works. I'm a bit sad to learn now that i've been clipping my dots on the last tick since the beginning of classic and just now I learned it's a Cata change? geezus.
Mind flay goes from having a 1 second channel time from Tier 10 Set bonus, to a slow motion 2.5-3 second channel time. The first cataclysm tier feels awful even with the Tier set, it feels like your playing the game in slow motion compared to the previous Tier10.
@teriyakiwilson7072 my comment wasn't on how play I played og cata and mained a resto shaman then I just like scottyjayes videos I know all the changes just curious which 10 he picks for shaman lol plus I would never switch to ele lol
@@Xxitzinstinctxx then don't reply with this redundant drivel. Everyday can't be a holiday. Sit down and wait for that shaman upload. No one cares. But resto isn't the meta in 10 man's. Drop your totems with less words next time
@teriyakiwilson7072 sorry 10 mans aren't my jam I prefer 25s. Have fun in your 10s. Also there's alot of ppl asking for shaman. Lastly no one asked for your opinion on how to run a class either you just gave unsolicited advice about shaman, we also don't know if it'll be meta there was a lot of classes that top during woltk or didn't perform as well. But again thanks for your reply I hope you have a good day.
You clearly didn't play it long. At the start of cata healing was hard af. I hated it myself tbh. However, I stuck in there and once my priest actually got geared, it was the most fun I've ever had healing. It's a absolute blast.
ngl going from shielding everyone in the raid then going to just spamming smite most of the times doesnt sound nearly as exciting as its made out to be -D
hybrid specs and cata do not belong in the same sentence. cata's talent requirements killed hybrid specs. it's one of the things i detested about cata.
@@JoshLineberry no but regardless until the creators come out and say it, you can't be tauting hybrid specs as a great thing about cata. that's like saying the greatest thing about mists is the demon hunter. sure they might add it in, but until they do it's literally not part of the expansion.
When Cata first launched, priest changes were met with overwhelming disapproval. Class tuning was bad at launch, and healing as a priest was nonviable due to mana issues. Groups would specify "no priests" when recruiting. Playing as a discipline priest was extremely disappointing because it wasn't just fun, cool changes - it required completely relearning how to play the game. The number of abilities that we had to juggle was doubled, and it required management of a lot of complex passive mechanics. As a healer, I really enjoyed just healing with a limited skill set because it allowed me to focus on spatial awareness, boss mechanics, etc, and to react more quickly when things go wrong. End game content was accessible. After Cata it wasn't casual anymore. This is a sad moment happening all over again. Anyway, thank you for the summary to help me understand how to approach this if I decide to play a priest again.
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From Vanilla to WoTLK I was a resto Druid, and loved every minute.
Cata is when I got into Priest healing and it was such a fun ride !
VERY ready and excited for the shadow changes in cata! one of my favorite past expansions for sure!
As a shadow main since TBC, and never got a real chance to play Cataclysm as I wanted back in it's days, I have been looking forward to these changes.
I think one thing I am looking forward to the most is actually something u didn't mention, which was shadowy apparitions, which has a chance to spawn on SWP ticks but also has an increased proc chance when you are moving.
Mind Spike with DS 4 piece set is absolute wrecking ball. Set causes your Shadow Fiend to generate 3 Shadow Orbs each time it attacks and each Shadow Orb increases damage of your Mind Spike and Mind Blast by like 30%(or even more depending on your Mastery)
So, to sum up, every single class and specc was massively improved in Cataclysm. Gameplay in Cataclysm expansion feels absolutely fantastic!
Except Paladins
@Spotnick2 Wtf? What are you talking about?
1) 1 new really cool CD for each spec (GoAK)
2) Holy power makes the specc feel like it actually requires some thinking, and not the potato specc it is in Wotlk.
3) Holy Paladin is just miles better as a whole. Hapaladins can now AoE heal.
4) Ret specc got a very cool ability (Templar's Veredict) which I even remember how cool was its sound effect. Also, Ret Pala have actual mechanics to master (Like Divine Inquisition).
5) Prot specc now has more survavility in the form of Word of Glory and the bonus Def they get from using Shield of the Righteous.
6) The resistance Auras have been merged (which is fantastic)
7) BoK and BoW were also merged into one.
8) Paladins are now encouraged to actually use Plate, instead of going for w/e the fuck they want.
May I go on?? There's no exception, Cataclysm classes are miles better than Wotlk classes.
@@josedavidmunozmartinez4722I mained holy pally all through the original wrath and I hate cata pally healing lol. But I love ret and prot in cata and basically every other class. Cata was so good but definitely get the hate for holy pally in cata.
@@JoshLineberry Well, maybe you were used to healing by only pressing 1 button. I absolutely loved Hpala in Cata because it was the first time that we actually had mechanics and had to think about our mana. Not to mention the fact that before Cata, Hpaladin was the only healer without any form of AoE in their kit, which Cata helped A LOT.
@@josedavidmunozmartinez4722 I mean I use a bunch of different buttons when I heal 😂😂 I also heal on druid, priest, and shaman. Pally is the least fun to me in cata. Disc priest became my favorite healer in cata.
Man atonement seems like crazy fun. Disc is definitely there as an option for me for main in cata.
cata and pandaria were the absolute best for class design and class fun. i loved how modular the MOP talents were. Incarn feral? or force/soul of the forest to spice things up?
Cata has probably the best iteration of each class
Looking forward to the rest of the classes, my vote is for shaman or mage next
Ye disc is insane, Archangel is a great spell and smite/holyfire spam can bank up divine aegis shields aswell. on whitemane disc priests pulling about 10-15k dps plus their supportive benefit is great for assisting in dps checks aswell. a vod about dk changes would be great because the blood changes are massive and honestly game changing for the tank meta
would love to see wrath/cata/mop all seperate from each other
Remember priests uses that grip thing alot in arena, like sick cd to get ur mate out of trouble i think u can pull people even from smoke bomb.
Can I ask what private server footage is this recorded on? I want to play and prepare for cata classic but don't know what are popular raiding PvE pservers
Would love to see this type of vid for all the classes in Cata!
Good to know you can queue up your dots/hots. Was worried it was going to be super convoluted with clipping
Thanks friend.
I’m running Holy/Shadow on my wotlk priest since my raid has a disc already.
Very interesting Cataclysm changes!
Another change is how spriest embraces spirit stats. Specially with reforge, i had an excel file just for it 😅😅 the spell power gain was massive
Incredible name on the priest. I'm gonna be bummed not seeing 20+ rapture procs but these changes to look fun. Never got to play priest in cata back in the day.
Would love to see Death Knight or shaman next! Just leveled a DK on whitemane and man is tanking as blood an absolute blast. Had a healer D/C right before a boss and i didn't realize it, struggled a little on the boss then we all realized the priest wasnt even there 🤣
Ended up clearing like 3 more trash mobs after the boss too. My self healing and absorbs are ridiculous.
I am so hyped to play cata man, thanks for the priest info!
Leap of Faith places your target in front of where your character is facing use this information...wisely :)
I know Bliz and WoW have some serious issues (and it’s worth talking about them.) That said, I’m really liking the upbeat and informational tone of these recent videos.
Looks like Smite Priest is back on the menu boys!
Edit: oh my god i thought the chakras werent until MoP. Im so excited now!
Cata started all the best crap lol.
Will you possibly make a tier list for classes/specs? whether for pure zug or just fun to play?
Wouldn't it still be optimal to update a dot exactly as it falls off? Still gives you the most damage per global. If you update your dots with 1/4 of the time left, you're wasting 1/4 of a global. You might want to update it in the last milliseconds so you don't lose any ticking time, but you could use those 3 seconds to mind flay.
What am I missing?
Atonement was not optimal and rarely used back in the days, it really only become mainstream in Mists of Pandaria. I'll be curious to see how it works. I'm a bit sad to learn now that i've been clipping my dots on the last tick since the beginning of classic and just now I learned it's a Cata change? geezus.
Mind flay goes from having a 1 second channel time from Tier 10 Set bonus, to a slow motion 2.5-3 second channel time. The first cataclysm tier feels awful even with the Tier set, it feels like your playing the game in slow motion compared to the previous Tier10.
any video coming out on the shaman changes? great video!
Voting for Shaman next! Along with Shadow Priest it's my top favorite class to play.
Love these videos gets me super hyped for cata. Can you do shamans soon I'm a little biased I main a resto shaman 😂
Go elemental. And prepare 25 man's. 10 man heroics favor elemental shaman and Hpally/Priest and boomie with resto off spec. For progression
@teriyakiwilson7072 my comment wasn't on how play I played og cata and mained a resto shaman then I just like scottyjayes videos I know all the changes just curious which 10 he picks for shaman lol plus I would never switch to ele lol
@teriyakiwilson7072 spirit link totem is one of the best raid cds so Def not off specing resto but thanks for comment
@@Xxitzinstinctxx then don't reply with this redundant drivel.
Everyday can't be a holiday. Sit down and wait for that shaman upload. No one cares. But resto isn't the meta in 10 man's.
Drop your totems with less words next time
@teriyakiwilson7072 sorry 10 mans aren't my jam I prefer 25s. Have fun in your 10s. Also there's alot of ppl asking for shaman. Lastly no one asked for your opinion on how to run a class either you just gave unsolicited advice about shaman, we also don't know if it'll be meta there was a lot of classes that top during woltk or didn't perform as well. But again thanks for your reply I hope you have a good day.
Ohh these changes make me want to play priest in cata, damn. May i ask which server you are playing cata on? :)
Warrior next!! Can’t wait to play arms full time again
@scottejaye what if Blizz changes talents in Cata? Locking you into single spec was a big controversy back then.
thanks for the info
People is not ready to witness how spriest tops both unitarget and multitarget.
Spirit Link Totem is the best healing CD ever.
10/10 Will watch again
What about fire Mage with living bomb do we ket that expire
Was it in Cata that mind sear changed to also do damage to the target?
Yeah
Looking forward to mage or DK .awsome vids keep up the good work cheers🍻😊
Great vid looks sick
On hlafus in T11 disc priest is just insane lol
Disc priest in cata was my favourite thing ever ❤
Yes! It was some of the most fun I've ever had in the game.
great video mage next please!
Healing as a priest in cata was so terrible most of us just quit. Cats killed wow unfortunately. Maybe blizzard will fix it this time around
You clearly didn't play it long. At the start of cata healing was hard af. I hated it myself tbh. However, I stuck in there and once my priest actually got geared, it was the most fun I've ever had healing. It's a absolute blast.
i hated when they changed this back in the day, to make damage to heal
Aight, imma play a Priest!
“Cataclysm top 5 dps specs”
Edit: would like a video like this
wait, so disc priests will actually roll on hit gear now?
ok nvm you read me like a book, touché.
Playing disc is such a bait, when holy can pump more healing with 2 buttons
WTB DK changes video
Please do mage, DK or shaman!
Do dots still need to be snapshotted?
ngl going from shielding everyone in the raid then going to just spamming smite most of the times doesnt sound nearly as exciting as its made out to be -D
Agreed- has to be the most boring healing to play and I have every class of healer at 80.
This isn't how you heal in cata lol. Cata was the most fun I've ever had healing as a priest.
Warrior or lock next plsss 😅
ffs please do lock next Im beg from my knees
You left the chat open, whit the whitemane name on it D:
hybrid specs and cata do not belong in the same sentence. cata's talent requirements killed hybrid specs. it's one of the things i detested about cata.
Have you watched his other video where it talks about them possibly doing away with locking us to a tree?
@@JoshLineberry no but regardless until the creators come out and say it, you can't be tauting hybrid specs as a great thing about cata. that's like saying the greatest thing about mists is the demon hunter. sure they might add it in, but until they do it's literally not part of the expansion.
Shaman next plox
When Cata first launched, priest changes were met with overwhelming disapproval. Class tuning was bad at launch, and healing as a priest was nonviable due to mana issues. Groups would specify "no priests" when recruiting. Playing as a discipline priest was extremely disappointing because it wasn't just fun, cool changes - it required completely relearning how to play the game. The number of abilities that we had to juggle was doubled, and it required management of a lot of complex passive mechanics. As a healer, I really enjoyed just healing with a limited skill set because it allowed me to focus on spatial awareness, boss mechanics, etc, and to react more quickly when things go wrong. End game content was accessible. After Cata it wasn't casual anymore. This is a sad moment happening all over again. Anyway, thank you for the summary to help me understand how to approach this if I decide to play a priest again.
WHERE THE FUCK IS THE DK VIDEO
WOTLK FOREVER!😢
😂
ok boomer
This was definitely the worst iteration of shadow priest by far, but the rest of the kit was cool.
Shadow is fun AF in cata.
@@JoshLineberry shadow orbs were the worst design decision ever, completely streamlined the spec in a bad way.
1st comment
We dont want Cataclysm D:
Oh yes, we do.
Oh yes, we do.
Oh yes we do lol
Yes we do.
@@gollese LOL looks like you aren't getting it pal. good.
wow is dead
In your world perhaps, its very much healthy.