I’ve definitely been practicing! I watched other channels to learn where all the gold bars and other treasures are, so I can buy all the guns. LOL! Thanks for watching!
The LeMat is probably my weapon of choice in Online. I somehow never seen it in my first Story Mode playthrough, but now I know that it is in Story Mode, I'm going to get it. And yes, I plan to put engravings on it knowing full well that engravings give no tactical advantage whatsoever.
Now if only rockstar will listen to us and include the 1851 in the campaign. I’ve been using navy revolvers religiously online and would be overjoyed to have them in offline mode.
RDR2 Is one of my all time favorite games. The story, setting, acting, scenery, and gameplay are the best! I was surprised at the accuracy of the guns in the game. My biggest pet peeves are guns in video games that don't operate like they do in real life. I was taken aback by the reloading mechanics especially with the Spencer carbine. Rockstar worked out every little detail and it's 10/10 in my book. Great video Dustin! Glad I'm not the only one who looks for small details like this!
On other channels I would have expected heavy criticism and a dash of hate, but your analysis is so wholesome! I'm both a gun enthusiast and a videogame journalist, and after this video you have even more of my respect. Now, well, I just need to get a Remington 1858 New Model Army, one of my favourites. :)
They did do a good job on the look of the gun! I played a CIv War game once and the loading was about that fast. You're correct, the realism of that would be too much in a gaming environment.
You can look at the left and right sides while cleaning them and on the customizing option when ur at the gun smith and u can switch the guns to either sides of ur holdster
The Navy Revolver featured in the online mode of the game is out of scale-- the size of the gun in-game is somewhere between a real-life 1851 and a Dragoon. The size (and power) would be more realistic if it were a Dance revolver rather than modeled off a Colt. Funny how the 'sight upgrade' on the LeMat or the Navy is simply a re-shaped notch in the hammer.
I completely agree the 51 Navy is like one of the most powerful guns on the online pistol. And realistically The Single Action Army would probably be one of the more powerful pistols in the game. But they make it a beginner gun
They have to make the loading quick and unrealistic just because of the combat scenarios you get into with these games. Like you said, no one would want to sit there for 5 minutes while getting shot at, reloading the realistic way. But it's one of the few video games I can enjoy, though I don't own any video game consoles currently.
You can press down on the d-pad, and get fpv aiming, you can even fan the hammer if you just hit the tigger without aiming, it’s such a realistic game.
Also, when you're aiming a gun in third person view, pressing the D-pad left or right will shift the camera to the other shoulder so you can get a view of the gun being reloaded without the character's body blocking the way.
Hey Dustin good job on the video. If you ever do anymore Red Dead Redemption videos on Firearms. if you clean the firearm you can inspect it much better move it around and look at it much closer. Also the 51 Navy is on the online version of Red Dead Redemption.
Hey! nice video, a little tip though - in the weapon wheel you will see a prompt when you hover over a weapon saying "Maintain". You'll be able to get a better and close up view of said weapon.
I'll be honest I only found out about this gun because of a fanfiction I read where a more modern gun was made based on the idea of this gun, I go to looking and found out about this version in Red Dead. As far as guns go it is a pretty neat idea and probably one we'll not see again outside of reproductions.
Another thing I noticed is the reloading lever. The lever in real life is on left side and is also being pulled upward to push the bullet in, while the one in the game is on the right side and being pulled downwards.
I love the lemat in RDR, I've even found if you're fast enough you can quick swap to the shotgun barrel before the 9shot reload starts on the main cylinder. Super useful in big gunfights or oh crap situations
You can also look down the sights in first person in this game. Would have loved to see some of that. Thanks I’ve done it plenty myself but still, in case you didn’t know it is a pretty cool feature ! I believe you press down on the directional pad on console while aiming in first person or if you’re on pc you use the scroll wheel on the mouse while aiming
Rockstar really was in a conundrum when they added in percussion guns. They could’ve made the reloading more realistic by animating him disassembling the gun and replacing the cylinder with a freshly loaded one, similar to how they animated swapping out the spencer rifle’s magazine.
@@BobGeanis There are minor inaccuracies, yes, but technically the game takes place from 1899 up until 1907 (I won't speak any further than that because that's spoiler territory for anyone who hasn't played the game). So things like the Browning Auto-5 being in the game... Yeah, it really shouldn't be available for purchase in 1899, but it would still be in the game. The "M1899" oddity is basically an FN Model 1899/1900 with more like a FN Model 1903 grip angle, apparently done because it had to use animations adapted from the revolvers in-game (with more angled grips). The problem I have with the game is that the weapon options often make no sense. Why, why in god's name would anyone seriously be carrying around a Volcanic Repeater for self-defense? There was even a documented case where a man attempted to kill himself with it by *_shoot himself in the head multiple times and surviving_* because the power of the "Rocket Ball" ammunition. The most egregious part is that Rockstar games locked iconic things like the Colt 1851 Navy (and an elephant rifle) behind multiplayer so you can only use such an iconic old west weapon in multiplayer mode (NOTE: On PC you can enjoy this in singleplayer/offline with the use of completely legal and free-to-use mods. On consoles? Nope. You're out of luck.). Most of the firearms in game are actually really odd choices, and with many being incredibly out-dated variants of what would be available. I mean, there were only 14,000 Henry rifles produced and many were lost during the Civil War. And production stopped in 1866. Would you still see Henry rifles? Perhaps, especially among Native American tribes and perhaps the Confederate hold-outs (the "Lemoyne Raiders") in Lemoyne in-game. But they would be rare. Especially given the much more numerous Winchester rifles. And ammunition would be an issue. So who would buy a Henry rifle in 1899 when you have just entire piles of Winchester rifles with much more available ammunition available for cheaper? Outside of a savvy time traveler that wants to buy a potential museum-piece grade rifle for collecting... No one. It's like they just added it because it was, at one point, iconic or important - just like the Volcanic pistol. Don't even get me started on how there's no Remington M1858 in the game despite there being a Colt Navy... And despite being a game about the dying old west... And there being buffalo in-game... There's no Sharps rifle (despite one being in the previous game!). Why? Would have also liked to have seen a Winchester Model 1895 (or any of the newer Winchesters, really - why they decided to go with the Winchester of choice being a Winchester Model 1866 Yellow Boy of all things I'll never understand). And if you're going to go up until 1907 in the game... why not something like the Winchester Model 1907? Or how about a revolver/revolving carbine like the Pieper Revolving Carbine?
interesting, i never really thought about it being him loading the caps, ball, and compresion lever, i thought rock star was just making him use a cartridge loading animation on a black powder gun or something
as for your point on the movement of the hammer to fire the shotgun shell this game takes place just after the west meaning that it would realistically have the little flip out hammer there (btw no hate intended) (:
I wish my grandmother did not sell my ancesters lemat they got from a Confederate officer in 62, He converted it to cartridge in 1870. Had to say, it was a slick gun.
I wish someone would make an actual cartridge conversion of the LeMat like the one shown here in Red Dead 2, it's surprising no one's done it considering there's so many other replicas of black powder firearms that are made to fire modern cartridges, I know I'd buy one in a heartbeat
I think the one in the game is cap & ball. The character loads it unrealistically fast, but it looks like he’s putting a ball in the front of each chamber and using the loading lever. You can see a cartridge version in the series, West World, though.
There are centerfire and pinfire le mat revolvers, Forgotten weapons made a few videos about them (some have the muzzle loading shotgun barrel and some can use short shotgun cartridges). They are very few and pretty ugly tho.
And RDR 1 and 1 games are not even the wild realistically based on time period. 1 is the year 1911 and 2 is 1899 which are far from the last year of the Wild West which is 1890.
Yeah, I had some fans of the game reach out to me and tell me that. Unfortunately, I’m not much of a gamer and didn’t know I could do that when I made the video. LOL!!
It is obvious that in the game the character could not get there to load the revolver with black powder and then introduce the bullets one by one 😄😄😄, he would have slowed down too much, especially in the shootings. thanks for the video 👍👍👍
I had one i guarantee you can't load a paper cartridge with that rammer. It is very nearly useless and very poorly designed. I sold mine and other than the Starr DA I had it was the worse and most expensive percussion revolver I ever bought.
The cartridge Lemats look so ugly. I wonder if one could make a conversion for a pietta style one though. The navy in the mp uses caps and such but the animation only shows recaps.
One guy has done 2 cartridge conversions on these, and has sworn to never do it again. It takes to much work, and you have to convert it to .32 s&w because there is just not enough metal between the chambers otherwise. The lemat as it was compromised in a lot of ways to get as size efficient as it did, and this was only facilitated by the way blackpowder revolvers worked.
"Would you wanna play a game where your cap and ball revolver takes as long to load as the real one?" Yes. And not only longer, but manual interactive reloading controls in games are something I desperately want to see more of. It can add a lot of tension to combat encounters, and requires you to place your shots carefully. You're not going to be reloading a C&B in combat, so it would be all about the preparation, and tactics. I once played a short indie horror game called "The Fruit", that had a full manual reloading system on a Trapdoor Springfield. You press a button and he holds the gun up to the screen, and you use the left mouse drag to open the trapdoor, drag a new round in, close it, and cock the hammer. It was super bad***, and added a ton of tension to the combat. It makes you approach encounters differently, and even facing two opponents is super risky. At one point, it sends a mob after you! (mild spoiler sorry) If you're interested, the game is Dread X: The Hunt. Dread X is a horror anthology series, so it comes with other games, but most of them aren't as good as The Fruit.
Video: th-cam.com/video/IW8k7WP0TY0/w-d-xo.html The hammer and such are on the opposite side, but he probably did that for better visual clarity, given how interactive it is.
its the best sidearm in the ɡame !! I particularly love it!! In combat situations sometimes I prefer use it more than any other primary gun. Its damage and range are pretty good, besides it still has shotgun. function.
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Dustin:"I'm not much of a gamer" has come this far into the game and has 6000$😅 Thank you for this very informative video Sir!
I’ve definitely been practicing! I watched other channels to learn where all the gold bars and other treasures are, so I can buy all the guns. LOL! Thanks for watching!
@@GunsOfTheWest good job broo keep up the good work
But cant fill his cores
@@wiyebonrostro6507 where's some baked beans when you need them?
@@GunsOfTheWestI had a feeling you got into the treasure maps before you got the lemat unlocked🤣 love your channel man
The LeMat is probably my weapon of choice in Online. I somehow never seen it in my first Story Mode playthrough, but now I know that it is in Story Mode, I'm going to get it.
And yes, I plan to put engravings on it knowing full well that engravings give no tactical advantage whatsoever.
As long as it doesn’t take away from functionality, it’s okay
I used to have an anime girl on my (real) Jericho if it makes you feel any better
@@scyphozoa717 I congratulate you on your bravery to say that shit. >__>
Your first play through might have been before the update, but. Idk
Dual wield!
Now if only rockstar will listen to us and include the 1851 in the campaign. I’ve been using navy revolvers religiously online and would be overjoyed to have them in offline mode.
Yes! Same!
there's a mod called "Red Dead Offline" which if I'm not mistaken gives you access to all Online content in the single player :)
@@Darca1996 except for the clothes, but yes
RDR2 Is one of my all time favorite games. The story, setting, acting, scenery, and gameplay are the best! I was surprised at the accuracy of the guns in the game. My biggest pet peeves are guns in video games that don't operate like they do in real life. I was taken aback by the reloading mechanics especially with the Spencer carbine. Rockstar worked out every little detail and it's 10/10 in my book. Great video Dustin! Glad I'm not the only one who looks for small details like this!
On other channels I would have expected heavy criticism and a dash of hate, but your analysis is so wholesome!
I'm both a gun enthusiast and a videogame journalist, and after this video you have even more of my respect.
Now, well, I just need to get a Remington 1858 New Model Army, one of my favourites. :)
Thanks for calling it a New Model Army.
They did do a good job on the look of the gun! I played a CIv War game once and the loading was about that fast. You're correct, the realism of that would be too much in a gaming environment.
Hey it’s you guys what’s up
If you press the down arrow on the controller while aiming you can aim down the sights instead of to the side. Gives you an actual pov aiming view.
Dustin! Man im so glad you covered this game! Hope you and the family are well!
Good to hear from ya! Hope you’re doing well too!
You can look at the left and right sides while cleaning them and on the customizing option when ur at the gun smith and u can switch the guns to either sides of ur holdster
You can WHAT
The Navy Revolver featured in the online mode of the game is out of scale-- the size of the gun in-game is somewhere between a real-life 1851 and a Dragoon. The size (and power) would be more realistic if it were a Dance revolver rather than modeled off a Colt.
Funny how the 'sight upgrade' on the LeMat or the Navy is simply a re-shaped notch in the hammer.
I completely agree the 51 Navy is like one of the most powerful guns on the online pistol. And realistically The Single Action Army would probably be one of the more powerful pistols in the game. But they make it a beginner gun
Just getting into black and powder, your channel has been great for me, and as a big gamer this was a great video to watch.
I have always wanted to shoot a LeMat revolver since I got it in the game
You forgot to put iron sight and rifling which makes revolver fully upgraded.
They have to make the loading quick and unrealistic just because of the combat scenarios you get into with these games.
Like you said, no one would want to sit there for 5 minutes while getting shot at, reloading the realistic way.
But it's one of the few video games I can enjoy, though I don't own any video game consoles currently.
Nice video! The LeMat is my favorite revolver in the game.
Dustin: Looks like we've got a sick or injured person coming along here *smiles* ha looks like we scared them off
The colt navy in red dead is super powerful
You can press down on the d-pad, and get fpv aiming, you can even fan the hammer if you just hit the tigger without aiming, it’s such a realistic game.
Also, when you're aiming a gun in third person view, pressing the D-pad left or right will shift the camera to the other shoulder so you can get a view of the gun being reloaded without the character's body blocking the way.
Can’t with the Lemat. The button to switch from revolver to shotgun (and vice versa) is the same button to switch aiming styles
@@freedoomer2524 you have too aim first, then press down on the d pad for Xbox, or double tap the touch pad on PlayStation
@@smartmeis that’s how you switch firemodes
Biggest difference is it has the later shotgun flipper on the hammer which is incorrect. But pretty good on their part.
Now I want a Walker in game
Hey Dustin good job on the video. If you ever do anymore Red Dead Redemption videos on Firearms. if you clean the firearm you can inspect it much better move it around and look at it much closer. Also the 51 Navy is on the online version of Red Dead Redemption.
Hey! nice video, a little tip though - in the weapon wheel you will see a prompt when you hover over a weapon saying "Maintain". You'll be able to get a better and close up view of said weapon.
I'll be honest I only found out about this gun because of a fanfiction I read where a more modern gun was made based on the idea of this gun, I go to looking and found out about this version in Red Dead. As far as guns go it is a pretty neat idea and probably one we'll not see again outside of reproductions.
If you select the gun in the weapon wheel menu and then press R3, you can look at the gun and turn it around
Another thing I noticed is the reloading lever. The lever in real life is on left side and is also being pulled upward to push the bullet in, while the one in the game is on the right side and being pulled downwards.
I love the lemat in RDR, I've even found if you're fast enough you can quick swap to the shotgun barrel before the 9shot reload starts on the main cylinder. Super useful in big gunfights or oh crap situations
You can get a better look at the gun when you choose the gun from the gun section, select the gun a d then press R3
Check out war of rights. Only thing I could think of with the mention of waiting to reload a muzzle loading firearm in a video game!
You're back on rdr! Nice!
Great video and very informative! Also, is it just me or did you do a Rockstar and glitch in real life at 1:28? XD
the navy colt is in the online component. hopefully they add it to campaign
You can also look down the sights in first person in this game. Would have loved to see some of that. Thanks I’ve done it plenty myself but still, in case you didn’t know it is a pretty cool feature ! I believe you press down on the directional pad on console while aiming in first person or if you’re on pc you use the scroll wheel on the mouse while aiming
Rockstar really was in a conundrum when they added in percussion guns. They could’ve made the reloading more realistic by animating him disassembling the gun and replacing the cylinder with a freshly loaded one, similar to how they animated swapping out the spencer rifle’s magazine.
I’m not even going to lie to you, I had no idea that you could use the shotgun barrel until right now. Unreal.
It’s pretty cool. I don’t play video games much, but the level of detail in this one is just too good.
I'll have to pick this game up one day as it is more feasible than making a modern LeMat revolver
There's minor inaccuracies 2 guns that didnt exist yet mainly
@@BobGeanis
There are minor inaccuracies, yes, but technically the game takes place from 1899 up until 1907 (I won't speak any further than that because that's spoiler territory for anyone who hasn't played the game). So things like the Browning Auto-5 being in the game... Yeah, it really shouldn't be available for purchase in 1899, but it would still be in the game. The "M1899" oddity is basically an FN Model 1899/1900 with more like a FN Model 1903 grip angle, apparently done because it had to use animations adapted from the revolvers in-game (with more angled grips). The problem I have with the game is that the weapon options often make no sense. Why, why in god's name would anyone seriously be carrying around a Volcanic Repeater for self-defense? There was even a documented case where a man attempted to kill himself with it by *_shoot himself in the head multiple times and surviving_* because the power of the "Rocket Ball" ammunition. The most egregious part is that Rockstar games locked iconic things like the Colt 1851 Navy (and an elephant rifle) behind multiplayer so you can only use such an iconic old west weapon in multiplayer mode (NOTE: On PC you can enjoy this in singleplayer/offline with the use of completely legal and free-to-use mods. On consoles? Nope. You're out of luck.).
Most of the firearms in game are actually really odd choices, and with many being incredibly out-dated variants of what would be available. I mean, there were only 14,000 Henry rifles produced and many were lost during the Civil War. And production stopped in 1866. Would you still see Henry rifles? Perhaps, especially among Native American tribes and perhaps the Confederate hold-outs (the "Lemoyne Raiders") in Lemoyne in-game. But they would be rare. Especially given the much more numerous Winchester rifles. And ammunition would be an issue. So who would buy a Henry rifle in 1899 when you have just entire piles of Winchester rifles with much more available ammunition available for cheaper? Outside of a savvy time traveler that wants to buy a potential museum-piece grade rifle for collecting... No one. It's like they just added it because it was, at one point, iconic or important - just like the Volcanic pistol.
Don't even get me started on how there's no Remington M1858 in the game despite there being a Colt Navy... And despite being a game about the dying old west... And there being buffalo in-game... There's no Sharps rifle (despite one being in the previous game!). Why? Would have also liked to have seen a Winchester Model 1895 (or any of the newer Winchesters, really - why they decided to go with the Winchester of choice being a Winchester Model 1866 Yellow Boy of all things I'll never understand). And if you're going to go up until 1907 in the game... why not something like the Winchester Model 1907? Or how about a revolver/revolving carbine like the Pieper Revolving Carbine?
This was just and excuse to play the game again lol great video man
I would say that the sparks as he shoots are very realistic... a bit mo' smoke would have been great. Nice stuff!
interesting, i never really thought about it being him loading the caps, ball, and compresion lever, i thought rock star was just making him use a cartridge loading animation on a black powder gun or something
Too bad I never been a video gamer, because they've sure come a long ways over the years.
as for your point on the movement of the hammer to fire the shotgun shell this game takes place just after the west meaning that it would realistically have the little flip out hammer there (btw no hate intended)
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First person view was so much better with you standing in front of it😂
I've always been interested in that game. It's the only one I think would be fun but medically I'm not allowed to play video games
I wish my grandmother did not sell my ancesters lemat they got from a Confederate officer in 62, He converted it to cartridge in 1870. Had to say, it was a slick gun.
I wish someone would make an actual cartridge conversion of the LeMat like the one shown here in Red Dead 2, it's surprising no one's done it considering there's so many other replicas of black powder firearms that are made to fire modern cartridges, I know I'd buy one in a heartbeat
I think the one in the game is cap & ball. The character loads it unrealistically fast, but it looks like he’s putting a ball in the front of each chamber and using the loading lever. You can see a cartridge version in the series, West World, though.
There are centerfire and pinfire le mat revolvers, Forgotten weapons made a few videos about them (some have the muzzle loading shotgun barrel and some can use short shotgun cartridges).
They are very few and pretty ugly tho.
Tbh I think people would fall asleep if the LeMat took as long to load in game as it does in real life
And RDR 1 and 1 games are not even the wild realistically based on time period. 1 is the year 1911 and 2 is 1899 which are far from the last year of the Wild West which is 1890.
*See night folk victim ride by during shot gun demo*
“RUUNNNN, GET OUT OF THERE!!!”
-my instincts
You should do the navy in online!
Cool lemat 👌
Cartridge conversion
The lemat has a some cool mojo
You actually made a video from my comment
The guy on the horse was a stranger encounter you have to take the guy to the doctore
If you maintain the weapon you can get a much better look at it
Yeah, I had some fans of the game reach out to me and tell me that. Unfortunately, I’m not much of a gamer and didn’t know I could do that when I made the video. LOL!!
What is the belt and holster rig that you use
It is obvious that in the game the character could not get there to load the revolver with black powder and then introduce the bullets one by one 😄😄😄, he would have slowed down too much, especially in the shootings. thanks for the video 👍👍👍
I'd like to use this one for bird hunting, but is it really worth spending mpre than a thousand € + consumables ?
Make a video about the cattleman revolver from the game and the colt saa in real life please
Here’s one I did a while back that should answer at least part of your request: th-cam.com/video/7ZHxGXLpveM/w-d-xo.html
God damn I love the LeMat
You should try out hunt showdown, they also have a lemat
there is a slower, more realistic reload mod in the PC version, i used it because i just cant stand with how Arthur/John reloading this guns
cool
Its realistic in Hunt Showdown ?
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I had one i guarantee you can't load a paper cartridge with that rammer. It is very nearly useless and very poorly designed. I sold mine and other than the Starr DA I had it was the worse and most expensive percussion revolver I ever bought.
The cartridge Lemats look so ugly. I wonder if one could make a conversion for a pietta style one though. The navy in the mp uses caps and such but the animation only shows recaps.
One guy has done 2 cartridge conversions on these, and has sworn to never do it again. It takes to much work, and you have to convert it to .32 s&w because there is just not enough metal between the chambers otherwise.
The lemat as it was compromised in a lot of ways to get as size efficient as it did, and this was only facilitated by the way blackpowder revolvers worked.
Dude your cores are shot, better eat something. I haven't use the lemat all that much in game.
you're sitting in front of the gun
recent update ? it's been here from the start dude. but still fine video.
Mate your health cores 😩😩😩😩😩😩😂
"Would you wanna play a game where your cap and ball revolver takes as long to load as the real one?"
Yes. And not only longer, but manual interactive reloading controls in games are something I desperately want to see more of. It can add a lot of tension to combat encounters, and requires you to place your shots carefully. You're not going to be reloading a C&B in combat, so it would be all about the preparation, and tactics.
I once played a short indie horror game called "The Fruit", that had a full manual reloading system on a Trapdoor Springfield. You press a button and he holds the gun up to the screen, and you use the left mouse drag to open the trapdoor, drag a new round in, close it, and cock the hammer. It was super bad***, and added a ton of tension to the combat. It makes you approach encounters differently, and even facing two opponents is super risky. At one point, it sends a mob after you! (mild spoiler sorry)
If you're interested, the game is Dread X: The Hunt. Dread X is a horror anthology series, so it comes with other games, but most of them aren't as good as The Fruit.
Video: th-cam.com/video/IW8k7WP0TY0/w-d-xo.html
The hammer and such are on the opposite side, but he probably did that for better visual clarity, given how interactive it is.
Better eat something and replenish those cores lol
shame on you sir. check your cores
Some hobby, playing with death delivery systems.
its the best sidearm in the ɡame !! I particularly love it!! In combat situations sometimes I prefer use it more than any other primary gun. Its damage and range are pretty good, besides it still has shotgun. function.