Another Horrific Shooting | The Ben Shapiro Show Ep. 476
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- Another tragic and heartbreaking mass school shooting takes place in Florida, and Ben breaks down the facts and the agendas. Plus, the latest in Portergate.
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Trinkling Creek Omg I died reading this lololol. So true.
Sadly I thought of this to
Zach Kimmel has an agenda, thats all.
Trinkling Creek, it is his mom 24/7.
Zach Biery
Kimmie says whatever he's paid for. He only cares about the bottom line like most Hollywood actors.
I'm beginning to wonder just how numb I'm becoming to the whole concept of mass shootings. Maybe it's because the frequency of them has simply had the effect or maybe it's because I've become a heartless piece of garbage in my old age. But with the recent shooting in Florida, the gun control debate is back on the table and we're going to be hearing the same old arguments, again and again, arguing for solving the symptom of a problem rather than the problem itself.
With the large number of mass shootings in the United States, it is often easy to go for the low hanging fruit of gun control. After all, if the perpetrator didn't have access to guns, he couldn't have committed such a terrible crime, correct? However, on the other side, had someone else had a weapon and shot and killed him, the situation could have easily gone differently. I don't know which approach is correct, but the solution is not to simply ban all guns, nor is it to arm the populace as much as legally possible. However, both these arguments often ignore one simple fact that plenty of the world's most deadly terrorist acts like this were done without the use of any firearms.
Nice, France, 2016. An Islamic terrorist drives a box truck through a crowd of people killing over 80 people.
Kunming, China, 2014. Men with long knives stab 31 people to death.
Jos, Nigeria, 2010. Terrorists with machetes kill over 500, including toddlers and infants.
Bangkok, Thailand, 2015. A pipebomb explodes, killing 20 and injuring over 100 others.
Oklahoma City, 1995. A truck full of fuel and fertilizer explodes next to a federal building, killing 168.
Brooklyn, New York, 1990. A man with gasoline and matches burns down a club, killing 87.
New York City, 2001. 19 men armed with box cutters crash four passenger liners, killing nearly 3000.
Now none of this is meant to minimize the numerous mass shootings that have happened over the years, but rather to illustrate one simple point: if someone truly wants to inflict harm on others, they can and will find a way. Now it is highly unrealistic to go about banning box trucks, knives, and gasoline if all guns hypothetically go the way of the dodo, but if it did happen, I sincerely doubt it would solve anything. Which brings me to my final point, which is the fact that there is a simple fact that plenty of people have been ignoring for years now. In decades past, when gun control laws were most definitely more relaxed than our more modern sensibilities allow, a time when one could quite literally go into a hardware store and come out with a few sticks of dynamite, where were all the mass shootings? Seriously, where were they?
Framed this way, the question of gun control seems a case of good intentions seriously misdirected. There's something rotting in the heart of America that people quite frankly seem too scared to address. It becomes very easy to just blame Republicans and the NRA every time something like this happens rather than asking the question of just what on god's green earth is suddenly driving an abnormally increasing amount of people to commit acts of mass violence against their fellow man; and not just ask it, but genuinely search for the answer.
These mass shootings are not the problem, but one of its many symptoms. In biology, symptoms can often be worse than the actual problem, but sometimes, they can be a lot worse. A headache can easily be something from clogged sinuses to cancer, depending on the person. However, simply treating the headache does not suddenly make a tumor go away, nor will deleting all the guns suddenly make the wound in the soul of our nation and people heal. Solving a symptom starts with identifying the problem. Identifying the problem starts with asking the right questions and having the courage to actually want to know the answers.
I don't know what's causing so many people to feel the need to lash out at the world with such hatred in the hearts. I honestly don't. And honestly, when I see the evils that these people are able to so easily inflict upon others, part of me doesn't want to. But I honestly feel that it is necessary. Because the sooner we understand, the sooner we can solve this.
And if we don't, well we've already seen the results, and likely will continue to see them.
The Android Next Door the problem is the left makes these arguments to limit guns and it forces the right to defend the rights to own guns. The right is saying, let's talk about mental health, culture that glorifies guns and murders, video games that make killing so easy. But it gets lost in the "we must ban guns" and the counter argument to that non-sensical argument.
The problem is a failed school system, a failed healthcare system, and a failed discussion about it. Everyone and their mama is on pills, so they don't want to talk about that. We have some of the worst teachers in the western world, and as a teacher myself its hard to admit it, but no one wants to talk about that. Guns is an easy scape goat without people having to look at themselves.
" _In decades past, when gun control laws were most definitely more relaxed than our more modern sensibilities allow, a time when one could quite literally go into a hardware store and come out with a few sticks of dynamite, where were all the mass shootings? Seriously, where were they?_ "
This doesn't get said enough. The root of the problem isn't the guns; it's how America reacts to these shootings. In the old days, nobody would care what the shooter's so-called _reason_ was. All that matters is that what he did was _evil_ and our reaction should be the same no matter his motivation - he'd get a fair trial followed by a short stay on death row and a humiliating end on the electric chair or the end of a rope. The 24-hour media coverage these little psychopaths get is exactly what they're after, and exactly the opposite of the way we should react.
Ill take a stab at what is wrong with american culture that causes hatred like this. Discrimination, failed school system, failed healthcare, lack of community, dads being treated like criminals by courts in custodies, the lowest annual leave of any country, minimum wage which can't support a family, war mongering politics which end up with american lives lost(killing fathers who were military), big agro that poisons the people, fda that lets them get away with it, crime ridden communities, the list goes on and on
Regardless of whether or not Democrats are "wrong" about targeting gun control, which is proven effective for many other countries and it's not like all guns are going to be banned unlike those place, it needs to be said that the Republicans and the NRA are doing literally nothing. School shootings and gun violence is not new for the US. Every occasion these things happen, Democrats rile up and Reps/NRA says it's not guns then moves on. I don't get why gun advocates that claim to know there's a bigger problem are attacking only the Dems on this matter. Republicans tend to hold much more power, not to mention political push from the NRA, yet they do nothing for decades. Is that really the answer? To do nothing but remain silent or say there's a bigger problem but never attack it, as per the acceptance of doing just that. Any sensible discussion had is meaningless if we're not even holding people with power accountable for doing literally nothing.
"v-logger" lol
"veee-logger" i picture a female lumberjack...
I live in Fairfax County, Virginia. My high school has an armed police officer in our school. He is very friendly and just monitors the hallway. All doors are locked during the day, so the only way in without someone on the inside is through the front door, which requires buzzing in. It is common sense security that does not affect the learning environment.
Sean Whearty I live in Prince William and we have armed officers in the high school I went to. They were very nice, real friendly, they didn’t disrupt or interrupt the learning environment. They made it feel pretty safe there. We also have locked doors where the only entrance is the main.
Sean Whearty we have the same deal at my school. However it’s really not hard to get in through the locked side doors because if you just knock a student passing by will let u in thinking ur a student who just went out for lunch or something.
I live in Scranton, PA. My high school had two or three armed officers in it at all times and we’ve never had an issue. In fact the head officer at my school was also the wrestling coach. They fit right into the school environment and make said environment much, much safer.
I believe all kids should be going through security checkpoints equipped with metal detectors and x-rays. The most dangerous segment of society are teenage boys.
I've moved around a lot and almost every school I want to in 3 different states had security and locked doors why don't all schools have them?
The conservative viewers aren't staying interested, I'm personally in the middle. Stay the same you are Ben. Stay smart, goofy, and sharp. Keep up the great podcasts, one day you'll be the mainstream I hope. A day where facts own the news, and opinions and hs drama stay out of it. I hope lol
Ben is not very smart or sharp. I agree with you on goofy tho. He says there's not a ton of evidence that hand to hand transfers are connected to crime smh. There is a ton of evidence that our policies in aggregate are connected to murdered kids. We need gun control now! This foolishness has got to stop.
Even if you think gun control won't work, what have we got to lose? What we're doing now clearly doesn't work. What are we fighting for? Easy access to a gun? Is it worth that much? I mean really. Is it worth THAT much? To anybody?
Empirically, gun control is a massive success. Countries around the world do not have the same gun problem that we have because they have stricter gun laws than we have.
Gun control in Chicago is also a major success. The guns that the police seize in Chicago weren't illegally obtained in Chicago. Instead, the guns are being purchased from neighboring cities with lax gun control. If Chicago gun control were a failure, then criminals wouldn't have to leave the city to get their hands on a gun.
Studies show that more guns on the street=more mass shootings, and fewer guns on the street=fewer mass shootings. What is the variable that isn't being controlled for which is giving the illusion that mass shootings are not tied to gun eligibility requirements? Mass shootings appear to be directly attributable to gun eligibility requirements.
I had a cop at my school. There should be 2 cops at every public school
Given how rare these incidents are, that would be a gross waste of money and manpower.
Q B see, I already anticipated someone would blurt out this quite unthoughtful point!: You don't think that there are spare police officers throughout the various counties of the US? You don't think that police regiments could simply adjust there regiments to meet the need without spending more money?
And another broader point: if you're so against a gross waste of money and manpower, you must be against the gross waste of money and man power pervasive throughout the government! At least when we have cops on campus, we can feel certain that our children won't endure such tragedies, and if they do, that its impact will be curtailed. Is it not worth every penny to protect our children?
Eric maybe there should be metal detectors in schools. Also more police or armed security within school parking lots and entrances. Also have doors that are lockable, and have multiple people who can communicate to the pr systems so easy communication can happen.
Corey Goff Notable ideas, however medal detectors won't do much considering there are all sorts of medal kids have in their bookbags.
Dude I don't care if it's a waste of anything. The state cannot say "oh send your kids here" and then refuse to protect them. I will gladly pony up tax money for this. I don't care if they sit for years eating donuts without one single incident. If there is a gun man walking in the parking lot I don't care if he's crazy. I want his ass laying in a puddle of his own blood.
Thank you Ben for not mentioning the identity of the shooter I hope the mainstream media soon adopts this practice
Why is that?
Venneroth because it doesn't give these disgusting people the attention they are seeking.
Brendan Kremer yet I found his ads and sponsores were distasteful based on the video
but Ben had no problem naming all the shooters from the past. makes no sense
Parmesan Stark in a sense I agree but that’s how Ben has to make his money, he wasn’t distasteful or anything but I can see the argument
this kid had guns and hurt innocent people but the only picture anybody has is him with an airsoft pistol.......
We have evidence that he shot up a school with a real gun.....
you can thank the FBI for that. and you missed the point
Imagine if he was black. Ben would be having a racist field day.
Troy Brown No he wouldn’t lol
He 1,000% would. It would be culture this, and rap music that. Nobody blames mass shootings on white culture. None of the quasi racist right wingers ever say "Mass shootings happen because of white culture. Its repressive, its oppressive, its violent" etc. Nobody asks how many parents were in the homes of school shooters. But let a black person get killed. He'll be singing a whole different tune.
One last thing I really hope Ben runs for presidency or something that he could have a huge influence in our political system he is a leader that isn’t afraid to say the truth and can explain why things are and what needs to be done
Just a note here Ben. You keep talking laws to prevent this type of thing. Ummmm there is a law to prevent this. It was illegal for him to possess a firearm in a school zone. Didnt prevent anything! Eliminate the insanity that you cant legally and lawfully possess firearms you eliminate the thought that these shooter's are safe because its gun free.
So that means that different policy could be considered. Just because a law doesn't work doesn't mean that no laws can work.
Sadly thats misinformation at best. At wost ignorant criminals dont follow laws. If the coach and a firearm and a small amount of training the shooting would has stopped at that point. Its a lack of thoughts to think that government and laws protect you.
PIEMEL FRIEMEL Mortality govern people not laws. Whats lost in todays society is a base in morality. Call it religious if you need a definitions. Laws have no affect at all on crimal acts. Gun free zones give opportunity to those without a morality as a basis for their existence.
Law enforcement had every opportunity to stop this but didn't. And yet people still think passing more laws will keep this from happening again.
Ishmael once your done blaming the police-- blame the parents next. Then the schools. Then the drug Companies. Then the general public for not believing in God hard enough. If you reach our current gun control laws you've gone to far.
Ishmael Explain?
that's cause the gun laws are so lenient in America.
Zav Dab 2.0 Banning guns isn’t going to stop on my shooting you fucking idiot. Criminals are still going to have access to guns and they’re still gonna shoot up schools
Ever notice how gun ownership by state
is completely removed from gun crime statistically in the United States
Ben has great shirts
He's a millionaire, what do you expect :D
Too bad he doesn't make great points smh
LMFAO... 9:53... That's an air soft gun with the orange tip... Lol...
MOE FRITZ I’m glad I’m not the only one that noticed that
Grant Barnett Sandy Hook and Robbie Parker all over again? One day they'll finally obtain their agenda... Practice makes perfect I suppose.
Grant Barnett But if you doubt the "official" story you're a tinfoil hat wearing caveman "conspiracist". Rather odd name calling in my opinion.
it's absolutely priceless
guitargamery Elaborate....
FYI that Instagram photo is an Airsoft Gun
Polls? The same polls that said Hillary was going to be President? *snort*...polls. :/
Void this reminds me of Jim Mora’s “Playoffs?!” rant
the polls did get the popular vote right. you cant just reject them forever just because they were off on a few states
This is like saying "Weather forecasts? The same weather forecasts that said it would rain last week? *snort*." It is ignorant to think that polls are infallible, but even more ignorant to dismiss them entirely.
Do you either believe that Hillary Clinton will become president or know Hillary Clinton will become president? #nobiasedsurveyswereused
MJ16 92% chance of her winning, iirc. That's not as simple as "they were off on a few states"
Suddenly Shapiro has hundreds of leftists on his video denouncing him for running commercials, etc. Something very fishy is going on.
My sincerest of prayers go out to anyone who has had to suffer as a result of this shooting or any others. Nobody should have to suffer that much as a result of one man’s cruelty.
My high school had two SRO's. Always thought that was pretty normal and a good idea.
John Jackson because it REALLY IS. Those guys can react without having to wait for the police and SWAT team.
I hear ya, but you have to wonder why he was never arrested at school for making terroristic threats when he was a student.
Thats a part of the solution, but it aint the whole thing. Mass shootings don't just happen in schools. We need gun control.
Mine to.....but with about 2000 students. The fed wants so much control, well how about actually funneling money into in fucking education and safety. You fix the way kids are shaped, formed, & educated. You change the world
This school had an armed SRO btw
I don't want more gun control but how in the fuck was this dude able to buy a gun? If you are "on the radar" of the FBI and local law enforcement that should be put on record or something to stop you from buying a gun.
Hmmmm I guess it is possible to buy a gun and then months later comment on a TH-cam video and get reported to the FBI from said comment on TH-cam video LOL 😂😂😂😂
???? He made threats to classmates, he was reported to the FBI, he wasn't allowed to carry a backpack on campus ffs. There is much more than a youtube comment to go off of here.
The FBI did look into him but said they couldn’t confirm he was the one who wrote the comment on the TH-cam video about shooting a school. Background checks would have showed the FBI looked into him if they actually filed a report which they didn’t.
Yes the FBI did drop the ball but don't you think if someone is banned from having a backpack on school grounds that should show up in a background check somehow? I mean the only reason to ban him from having a backpack is if you think he is gonna bring a weapon to school. He was clearly mentally unstable yet there was no paperwork saying he was for the background check to find. Multiple failures here imo.
Zach Thomas the school banned him from bringing a backpack on campus has nothing to do with the cops. If they didn’t tell the police then how is a background check going to show only what the school declared. Stuff from school doesn’t show up on background check unless it was reported to authorities
I hate to ask but how does that Yamaka stay on his head? It looks like it would fall off very easily. Are there hair clips that attach it to his hair or something?
Magic. *Heavy sarcasm*
Yarmulke? That's an odd way to spell it. Is it pronounced YARM-MOLE-KA or YAR-MOLE-KA? Or am I pronouncing it incorrectly both ways?
Hair grips, ie Kirby grips in the UK, Bobby pins in the US.
Liking guns isn't a reason for people to report someone to the FBI. Threats to others is.
Chris a kid liking guns and putting it out brings worry and skepticism
I believe all this starts from bad parenting or not even having parents at all. What I mean by that is mothers and fathers neglecting their children. And let's not lie to ourselves If somebody gets cornered beat up so frequently not getting recognized by others being a outcast people do crazy things. Everybody needs a good role model to look up to in order to become a good person and to help others. If their parents won't do that who will.
Bad parenting, to the extent it is responsible, will always exist. Too many guns and too free a gun culture enables bad parenting to turn into mass shooting exponentially more in the US than in any other civilized country.
Some of it is genetic as well.
Lyndsey Stang true genetics can pass on mental illness.
But how would this translate into law
Did you know the parents personally?
It truly is scary how the state of our country is where we acknowledge something awful and argue about it and then just kinda let it fizzle out and then the cycle repeats itself Ik it’s hard to figure out what to do necessarily but we just need to start figuring out something it’s truly sickening and most people just don’t understand until the atrocious evils acts are done near them or I should say it directly effects them meaning it happened to them and then their eyes open I hate that our country Mass shootings are just a common thing now..
I've always thought it was nonsense to not have armed security at a school. My high school had an active police officer everyday, and this was a high school with less than 500 students out in the middle of nowhere... What can we do to address these "no-gun-zones", because they obviously do not work...
This school had a guard but there were thousands of kids in multiple buildings. The guy just went in another way. Our government is not serious about this......one guard are you kidding me??
Dont Havaname there were two officers on sight. You got your facts wrong.
Well, when I posted my initial comment, I didn't have all of the facts. There was one school resource deputy that was assigned to the school, but reports now are starting to state that the deputy may not have been on campus at the time of the shooting. The other security guard was the football coach, who did not carry a firearm. He tragically died protecting some students.
I'm not sure that my facts are really correct, but seeing as how a local newspaper is stating that the armed deputy may not have been present at the time of the shooting, shows a serious lack of security on the school grounds. www.sun-sentinel.com/local/broward/parkland/florida-school-shooting/fl-florida-school-shooting-20180215-story.html
I'd say that I didn't have all the facts when I made my comment, but the underlying message of gun-free-zones and lack of proper security are matters that needs to be addressed.
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I found something stating that a deputy was present at the school, but was off-duty and not carrying his firearm. His son attends the school and the deputy was volunteering with the varsity baseball team. He call 9-1-1 and flagged down an officer and armed himself, to go back in and look for the shooter. www.sun-sentinel.com/local/broward/parkland/florida-school-shooting/fl-florida-school-shooting-cop-20180215-story.html
I'm wondering if this was where you got the info that there were two officers on sight. One deputy that was assigned to the school, but was not present and the off-duty deputy who was a volunteer for the baseball team.
The problem is, America is a "lots-of-gun-zone". A no gun zone in the middle of a sea of guns is vulnerable. But mass shootings don't just happen at schools. They happen everywhere. We need to deal with the problem of guns.
My school has 5 guards and it’s not even big lol
Why are we talking about these each time they happen? Nothing changes just left argues about guns, right argues about mental health....then goes back to the same.
exactly, wtf s this bullshit partizanship in America
Matthew cause I guess cause some ass hole went off and killed some people with an semi auto I shouldn't be allowed to keep mine? WTF is this bull shit! If they want my guns they can have them sure after you peel it out of my cold dead hands. Go ahead take my guns bring plenty of body bags.
SupahNova yeah settle down . It is far more complicated then you think . This kid had red flags for weeks .
The people who do these shootings are mental . If you should be yelling for anything in the comments , it should be the ability to commit people like the US used to do .
This could have been avoided if the authorities did the job properly, and removed this guy from circulation.
It always amazes me when people demand the authorities clamp down on guns , when they are the same authorities that allowed this to happen
yeah i agree, that guy pissed me off. There is no silver bullet to this problem
SupahNova Canada has very strict gun laws... Great, sooooo.... Now only the criminals have them and believe me, alot of people have illegal guns in canada... Don't believe me? TH-cam gangs of toronto or vancouver... If someone wants a gun there are always ways of getting them...
Ben has become so numb to mass shootings hes advertising mid talking about it
Edwin Rivera so does CNN, Fox News, MSMBC, NPR, and every other media outlet.
Do you say the same thing while being spoon fed by CNN?
MOE FRITZ nobody watches CNN unless they have cable. And if they have cable theyre a lost cause.
"Vee Logger"
Yeah, could someone teach Been how to pronounce "Vlogger" - never mind, he corrected himself. Good production team!
Kick Vee
Your logic about the end game regarding gun control is exactly spot on. We will continue to protect the 2nd Amendment!
If only schools banned guns... oh wait.
mariokarter13 If only guns were illegal like murder........................ 🤔
Yup, this is just the sick world we live in. It is how it is I guess..
Mass shootings happen in places that don't ban guns, too. The problem is America is a sea of guns and easy gun access. We need to change that or else this will keep happening.
Mass shootings are accelerating. They are happening 50% faster from 2015-now than they did from 2010-2014. This is not normal!!
My church has multiple armed security person for all 3 services. We lock our doors in the children's area after service begins. I love my church for multiple reasons and I am so thankful for the safety protocols in place.
FBI know? the Police to? and he can buy a Gun Legal?
Gourmet Mateo yup
Oh of course they know, they know everything. They don't do anything to push the ban on guns. It's a very smart strategy on the governments part.
Seems like they where waiting for him to let loose.
In Virginia every school has a armed police officer on duty on the campus. The doors lock after the first bell in the morning. In order for anyone to enter the building you have to be buzzed in. They also have cameras to see who’s is trying to come in. Why are not all schools around the country like this??
The media has been warned by Psychologist about what type of coverage they give to these type of mass killings. But the media basically talks about the death count and comparing it to other death counts. In a mentally unstable person that might be contemplating killing themselves or others this could give them motivation to out do the others that ha committed such acts. Thanks for not giving this evil person any recognition. Keep up the good work Ben
Something to note however are countries that have stricter gun laws than what the Democrats are pushing for. It's not like they're not connected to world news, nor social media in general. Yet these countries don't have the same copy cats doing these acts. Every country has its problems, some universal (such as the frequency of mental disability), but things like almost weekly school shootings are not one of them except for the US. Some (i.e. not all) of those countries experience terror attacks, but the US has its own share of those same occurrences in recent history. That's not even including said frequent school shootings, which end up putting a lot of ISIS attacks to shame.
foomp Most of the places that have very strict gun control also tend to be places with some of the most horrible human rights records. I like the Swiss perspective, all able bodied men and most women serve in the military and every citizen is required to keep firearms (both military and personal) in ready condition. They have laws that are close to the United States and even go further with banning imagrints from certain countries to acquire firearms. Btw when was the last horrible school shooting in Switzerland?
Dave Stoutenborough the founder of the United States wanted to be more like Switzerland every able bodied male has a duty to protect the country. They are also Neutral and don’t get into wars unless they are attacked.
This is on the News WORLD WIDE! Yet they don't happen there!
What? He talked all about the death count and SHOWED A PHOTO OF HIM. He's literally just as culpable as the media.
Train teachers how to use guns. Give them guns. A student takes out a gun they are down in a minute with minimal casualties. That's what needs to happen
BOB money Or just put metal detectors and armed guards in the school. That's what they do in the hood...
Troy Bakeman that's way more expensive then buying guns for like 1-2 teachers in each hallway and training them.
reason #3008 to never put your kids in a public school.
I want to know the other 3007 reasons first... I weighing my options... lol
I am enrolled in a grossly overcrowded and under funded high school where threats of homicide/suicide are so common place that nobody, not even the local cops (to an extent), take it seriously anymore.
BlacksmithHolt I think it was in the communist manifesto that stated they wanted to destroy the personal relationship between a mother and child, which is education. So that'll be reason numero uno for me
Based on my personal dealings with parents these days, there's a rather alarmingly high number of unqualified parents out there. Some of them probably don't even remember they have a kid... as per how often parents "forget" to pick up their kids.
All US schools need reform
Psychopathy is particularly resistant to treatment. Most have no insight to seek treatment, and they don't show classic signs of psychosis that can be seen in some folks with schizophrenia. Matter of fact, most of those with psychopathy are considered functional. It is also not a defensible legal position, so those who are charged with a crime cannot plead mentally ill. Most will not offend because they don't want to be incarcerated, thus psychopaths are calculating and very in control of their actions. Perpetrating or contemplating violence should be the focus. A real investigation would have revealed that this perpetrator needed to be locked up for threatening to harm people. That would have made it illegal for him to be in possession.
How many red flags have to go up before someone takes notice?
People reported him, no one gave a shit
Rob Chambers sometimes in school peers just really don't give a shit about eachother. It's divided enviornment with a foodchain based off of looks, arrogance, and popularity. People at my high school used to think I was going to shoot up the school because 'person A' said I looked like a school shooter. Kids at schools are viscious and they joke about shit like this or anyone they think is beneath them. (Itxs definitley not always a hostile enviornment this just my view based off of mybexpedience at school). There have been cases of coaches ignoring bully reports because they needed this player on the team. It's disgusting, but suddenly when a shooter appears theres no thought about some of the kids in these schools being responsible for a shooting to happen. Nobody really cares about how choices you make or things you say affect the enviornment around you.
I'm talking more along the lines of the FBI and the local police about putting him on a watch list. The so called watch list he supposedly was on apparently didn't stop him from being able to buy a gun. I'm all for guns but in reality there are some people that should not own one this person should not have been able to buy one. As for the school bullying thing there are shitty kids I have 2 kids in middle school I'm aware to a point but I hate to say it sometimes you have to man up and walk away. In school bullying the environment that needs to be educating the kids are the parents. It used to be parents disciplined the kids for bad grades now it's the parents yelling at the teacher. Starts at home and many people have forgotten that and yes I realize there are some really bad homes but that's when the local community should help the kids.
Rob Chambers he commented that he was going to be a professional school shooter on a TH-cam video, the publisher of the video reported it to FBI, the FBI interviewed the publisher and took a screenshot of the comment then nothing else happened.
That's what I mean FBI knew local police knew. The ball was dropped in a major way.
The problem isn’t the guns, they’ve been there forever and the shootings have not been. The problem is the culture.
Every school I went to from 1994 to 2009 had an armed security guard or a county sherrif deputy? Why hasn't this been implemented everywhere across the US?
JPM $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ that's why
Every school I've been at, since the 1990s has an actual police officer, on campus all the time.
vegas96 So how did my public schools in a poor town afford it?
JPM I'm not saying that cant.. I'm saying they won't because of the money..same reason stores don't provide security... there cheap
We would rather spend more on more "important" things.
Ben, when you decided not to mention the shooter's name, you did what the rest of the media should have done. Well done, that was classy and good journalistic sense.
Did anyone read about the student that was wearing body armor in that high school? Smart parents - seriously. While everyone is fighting each other, mind as well invest in protection for your kids. People haven't matured enough to have proper discussion on this topic. Would putting an age restriction on AR-15s be a problem for anyone? It's more practical for these schools because they can't all afford TSA-style security (metal detectors, guards, etc) - I mean they can barely afford qualified teachers and updated textbooks.
Also, why are criminals being brought up? This kid was 19, got a background check and purchased this gun legally. This is what I mean by people haven't matured enough to have a discussion. Even more ignorance on part of people is the lack of understanding of mental health. If someone goes to therapy, does that automatically disqualify them from gun ownership? These are the type of questions I would like I see people having, but nope. Let's criticize lefties or righties... sigh so fucking stupid.
What do you mean age restriction on AR-15s? Other than the already age restriction put in place?
Why wasn't he prevented from buying a gun after making multiple"jokes" about shooting up the school? Why didn't the FBI flag him after he threatened to shoot up a school on the internet? If these measures didn't catch him, why do we think that more measures will work?
Kerbal AirForce didn't the FBI let another shooter buy a gun too? Maybe FBI is the problem
Courageous I mean with all the recent Hillary bullshit the FBI pulled I actually would believe if someone told me most shootings this past decade are part of a conspiracy involving the FBI.
We need gun control. An age restriction on ARs is a reasonable control imo. People are ready to have a mature discussion. Most people in America, even gun nuts, want gun control. The problem is the NRA and Gun lobby have our politicians in their pockets; they especially own the republicans. That's the mature discussion we need to be having: Political Donation Control.
All jokes aside i think situations like this should make us stronger and make us realize how valuable life is. Enough to start helping others. It doesnt have to be politics it can be many things. Dont just sit in your despair . DO SOMETHING with the pain and help others from feeling the same way u have felt
Almost all the things you advertise are aimed at men, am I really the only woman who watches the Ben Shapiro show?
tinyasweety no and no
omnia X hey! Lol I just find it so rare to find other conservative women especially up here in canada
tinyasweety No, but he advertises to who the majority of his audience is and it just happens that the majority is men.
Dylan it’s not a complaint I figure his demographic is majority men and of course that’s who he’d advertise too I’m just looking for other conservative women
tinyasweety Look at Dana Loesch at danaradio.com, Michelle Malkin at crtv.com, Rose Tenner at roseunplugged.com.
All of the schools I went to in DC except one had metal detectors and security guards. I think that should be a standard everywhere to help keep schools safe. I used to joke that my high school had airport security but looking back, I'm glad it was there.
You need metal detectors in every school and a police officer. It's sad that it has come to this, but there are a lot of sick students that hold grudges against the faculty and classmates. Even my high school almost had a shooting, but thankfully the kid got caught beforehand! He was a year older than me and had a grudge against the students from his year for bullying him. He had a hit list and when one of the kids from his grade got killed by a drunk driver he wrote on his Facebook page that he was happy.
I must object to the notion that the shooter's "obsession" with guns was an indicator of his intention to harm others. It is ludacris to suggest that a person's fascination with firearms is indicative of a proclivity for violence. There is absolutely no evidence suggesting a correlation between an interest in weapons and violent tendencies. The MSM, of course, have been incessantly shoving this theory down our throats, but I expected better from you, Ben.
Ludacris is a rapper
>James Allsup
C'mon Ben James is a good boy
(You)
James Allsup is a chump. I mean he went to Washington State University. Any mentally retarded person could get into that school. Trust me I grew up there and that’s where the failures went.
Lotta hostility from the NeverTrump Right.
If we are going to be a Gun-wielding society we need Gun-weilding security at every building. At least at schools.
Joseph Ingram plenty of retired vets that would not mind doing that.
Or we need to not be a gun wielding society. The gun situation here is out of control. There are war torn countries with fewer shootings than we have. And we haven't had a war on American soil in over a century
sagrotan are you stupid? you are so ignorant and uneducated as can be. look at any other western country, no other western civilised country has guns and there's no wars, no shootings and people are healthy and happy. look at australia, in the 90s australia had its last mass shooting and the government banned all guns, and there has been 0 mass shootings or school shootings since then, and this was almost 30 years ago. in under 2 months in america (this year) there has already been more than 18 school shootings, so do guns really help!?!?! no they're the problem, you are truly ignorant if you can't see this logic.
Schools need strong security measures. Train and arm teachers to protect and coordinate together against an active shooter. Have at least one armed guard in the building. The more schools look like soft targets the greater the chance of an attack. Most of the damage a shooter will do is with in the first 5min, so forget help from the cops. The school staff needs to be ready to deal with this sort of thing, period.
I don't know if you've ever met some of these school teachers, but some tend to barely be qualified to be around kids, so I'm not sure how effective it'd be to also require them to know how to use a gun responsibly, much less carry one. Hell, if a fight broke out in a class, I'd imagine we'll hear of many instances these trained teachers shot their students to stop their fighting lol.
You sir, are absolutely correct. After 9/11 occurred, pilots who were willing to be armed. We able to get a permit to carry a firearm on the plane that they were piloting. Of course, the pilots electing to be armed, had to go through a safety and training course. And then get subsequently certified (licensed per se). Schools should do the exact same thing the airlines industry does. No one is forced to be armed. Only the employees who choice to. I bet an active shooter wouldn't consider a school as a soft target, knowing that teachers/staff are armed. But since when has the Democrats ever listen to common sense, when it comes to addressing an issue?
Rick S Right, sounds good to me. All it takes is a good guy with a gun and these coward murderers will pee down their leg never to be seen again.
Who's gonna train these teachers on how to use firearms? Who's gonna pay for it?
Good idea, and there is enough tax payer money to do that for how many schools in America?.. "Oh shit, I was on the wrong side of the school, everyone's dead"! lol.. fuck..
Just to be clear I am a high schooler and the closest high school to my high school is Stoneman Douglas, one of my teachers taught there for 12 years, then the next day (post the shooting) my teacher was crying and I don’t blame her the shooting was tragic but, a classmate was saying “it was idiotically strategic of him to pull the fire alarm to get students out, in a bad way of course I’m not honoring him”. But my sensitive teacher forced him to shut up by saying “shut up” repeatedly. My point is we the people need to stop being sensitive about this crap.
I think we should first look to state gun laws before going Federal... They have pretty quick and relaxed background checks. Not that it would have stopped this shooting, maybe look to change state law before a huge Federal law.
Background checks are required by federal law, not state law, and state law cannot be less stringent than federal law.
Accidental shooting? Here's how we should respond: Make everyone scared of guns, do not teach gun safety education in schools, virtue signal about gun violence, move on with life until something happens again, then repeat.
"And Jesus knew their thoughts, and said unto them, Every kingdom divided against itself is brought to desolation; and every city or house divided against itself shall not stand:" Matthew 12:25... It's only a matter of time.
is jesus coming back?
Sean He who never ascended can never come back.
Every nation will fall eventually. That has nothing to do with Jesus or gun control. We need laws to regulate these weapons.
Troy Brown IYNSHO...in your not so humble opinion. Everything has something to do with Jesus btw.
Ramon S if you're referring to the Lord, I pray he gives you everything you deserve. Everything.
Was this the shooter that CNN said used a....and I quote exactly..."full semi automatic assault weapon"?
*face palms*
I've always believed that keeping the identity of someone who does something like this private WILL reduce copy cats...
Hrm. Possibly..
That would definitely take away that "GRIM MUGSHOT" angle out of it immediately.
Ditto - let's refer to this guy as "asshole #2018-12" or whatever.
It is always the same thing evil a caveman kills his mate with a rock they say band rocks except they live on a mountain folks it is pure evil that pushes these people. I know I will try to keep my family safe and neighbor. Good will win evil is here.
two words *DEATH PENANLTY*
I'd sentence Ben to only 10 years hard labor.
Imagine if that assistant coach that died shielding the kids had been armed, or the teacher who unlocked his door to let in fleeing students and was shot dead. "Gun free zones" on government properties are a travesty.
Arm the teachers and/or students?
PatrickOMulligan why would giving untrained people guns help?
Just teacher just because students may cause an accident. Although their parents should teach them at home how to handle and use a fire arm.
Roseman12986 Whatever gives gun companies more profits.
PatrickOMulligan and how would giving them more profits help?
When an enemy wields a weapon, does thou not wield the same weapon in defense? Allow responsible teachers carry today!
I think guns should be allowed on campuses in general
dudas12100 I think teachers should be allowed to carry once they’ve been trained
The police is against it.
Try arriving on an active shooter situation will multiple guns being fired.
*the Vegas shooter, paddock, was the rider on the red horse. The red horse was riding long before the Vegas shooting and the red horse (of the Apocalypse) continues to ride. Paddock was the sign that made the red horse visible.*
*soon, the black horse...*
my school district has never had a murder at school and I think this is because every school has a Student Resource Officer who doubles as armed security. We've had a few suicides and only 1 incident with pot-laced brownies where a student had an allergic reaction and almost died; two things that the armed officer could never prevent unless he saw it.
One advantage a shooter has over an SRO is the SRO is in uniform and the shooter is in plain clothes. If the shooter takes out the officer, then what?
The darkest place is under the candlestick. You guys in the US have a serious problem with guns. On one hand you claim to be the freedom country, and as an argument you use the amendment 1 & 2. Dont you see the irony???? And it comes up also in times when kids are murdered." Oh, if there was a security guy with gun at the premises of the school, it would not have happened!" PS The country I come from never experienced school shooting! And we do not have amendments 1&2.
Hope of Tomorrow I must have read this wrong but are you saying your against the entire 1rst and 2nd amendment? I just want to know the level of person in talking to.
some teachers should be armed we trust them with are life as it is. at least my kids are my life/world id fill better knowing that some teachers are armed just locking a door for them n hiding with them don't do it for me
Silmarillion Then let them quit.. Let retired soldiers teach them about reality instead of gender and liberal studies.
If teachers are armed, and a kid wants to shoot up a school, he might be able to get access to the teacher's gun. Then you have a big problem on your hands.
I don't think the solution is to shoot the kid before the kid can shoot other kids. The solution is to stop kids from getting shot period. We need gun control.
Troy Brown Well kick it up in a safe and have them keep the key on them. It’s not like they’re gonna be a dumbass and leave the case out in the open and tell them they’re apart of the program of handling a gun.
We here in Denmark do not have the right to bear arms or to have guns. Funny how it is that we still have innocents die in crossfires and drivebys committed by criminals and crazy people. If someone wants a gun they will get it.Funny how people forget the man who protected more life's by defending with his arms in the church killing. A selective bunch of Teachers who will get training and then have access to a guns in schools hidden away with special locks and key in safe boxes could be the best solution. Pre emptive help to kids who has problems, like this crazy kid ( really like you don't mention his name ) would do wonderful things. Sometimes a little reaching out to get all, especially those slacking behind somehow ,is all a kid needs. Everyone knew something was wrong with the kid, so must the teacher's . So the alarm clocks was there,with his gun love ( a needed love to feel power) No one cared so why should he? (His mind). But then again-not all can be reached. I'm not apologetic for his actions, the signs for a sociopath ( killing animals "rats" for fun ) was there. In Japan a few years back a girl was in a killing spree with a knife at a school and I believe got to kill even more. Some are just crazy. ..
Adrian Abildtoft Same in Canada... Only the criminals have guns and they don't care who dies when trying to kill an opposing gang member.
Ben, who is a vlogger, doesn't know what a vlogger is
Papabear STV don't you mean a v-logger
Ben does not blog though
Alex 3:16 XVII a podcast is vlogging you tard . TH-cam is vlogging.
A vlog is a video blog. Its a video where you talk about whats going on in your life day to day. In a way he is but hes more of a political anchor than he is a vlogger
Dakota Beard a Blog is not about your own personal life necessarily. A vlog can be a political diary which is essentially what Ben Shapiro is doing.
Debbie W-Schultz, OMG. Maybe she should concentrate on computer access control. 🙄
The1davidb like she said there will be consequence
Schools are prime soft targets and have been known as such for quite a while. There is an option to run school staff through backgrounds, send them through training with local L.E., arm them, maintain training requirements like L.E. and not only become a huge deterrent, but be able to respond to active shooters and minimize injury/death. However, all too often, these situations are used to forward the agenda of destroying the 2nd Amend. and leaving more victims. "Gun free zones" are a misnomer due to the fact that laws/regulations are ignored by those that commit crimes. There are too many examples of states or cities that have strict gun laws that demonstrate failure to protect from or stop violent crime.
yamaha biker lol... You want people who teach to learn LE too? These are polar opposites. XD
yamaha biker yesssssss
That is not what I was saying at all. Talking about firearms training, room entrance/clearing, target engagement, etc...and maintaining regular training requirements. There is no reason why this cannot be done if there is an actual concern for active shooter response. Utilize the resources and available bodies on the scene instead of relying on primary response from L.E. and increasing injury/death during the waiting period. A lot can happen in a 3-5 min. or longer response time.
Seriously think about your proposal. It would be ideal if that were possible but soooo many teachers are against guns outright. Room clearing training to teach a class is laughable. Put down the Oxy and start paying attention to your surroundings.
It is reality and it is your way of thinking that will continue to leave soft targets open/vulnerable, and do nothing to decrease injury/death for these situations. You can say, " but soooo many teachers are against guns outright", yet there are many who would do it willingly to protect others.
Now a NYT article is claiming Cruz is a white supremacist ...
Allegedly.
When in doubt, uhhhh James Allsup 😂
Totally agree about Steven King. All the books start out interesting, and then the end is shit. Lol...
Good episode.
If that kid didn't have access to guns, he would've just listened to Adele or something.
Absolutely we need to talk about solutions, but when we do let's consider:
1. Someone intent on committing mass murder will not be dissuaded by having to break a gun law;
2. Making something illegal does not make it go away;
3. Outlawing AR-15s (or any gun) will only cause law abiding gun owners to give them up;
4. The person with the superior fire power usually kills the other;
5. It takes only one bullet to kill someone, an AR15 semi-automatic rifle can fire 45-50 round per minute, and the average “mass shooting” police response time is about 3.5 minutes;
6. The one absolutely certain way to stop a shooter from shooting many more people is to shoot them, many times.
1. Gun law will dissuade someone from selling a gun to a person intent on committing mass murder, thus making it harder for that person to get a gun.
2. If thats a reason to not make something illegal, then why should anything be illegal?
3. Which is a bad thing because?
4. The goal is to stop the killing, not to tip the scales in favor of one killer over the other
5. All the more reason to place stricter regulations on AR 15s
6. I wanna stop them before the "many more" point. I don't want them to kill anyone. Evidence suggests that the way to achieve that is gun control
Troy, I would very much like to have a rational, productive debate on these issues, but if you don't even understand why law abiding citizens giving up their AR-15s while leaving them in the hands of outlaws is a "bad thing", I have no hope of having that kind of discussion.
What percentage of AR 15 owners would be shot by an outlaw with an AR 15 but for their own AR 15? 1% Max. if that.
Exactly right Troy, It seems you know that rifles like the Armalite 15 are far less dangerous than knifes, Blunt Weapons, and literally no weapon at all. Oh, i know we could ban assault weapons, wait assault weapons is so loosely defined by everybody you might as well ban guns all together. Hmm, weird how murder statistics seem to point toward the fact that something else seems to be the issue. Like possibly the glorification of mass shooting by the media for a start.
Oh and to touch on the point of legality, making guns illegal takes away your ability to protect yourself if you are a law abiding citizen. it doesn't have the same effect by making drugs illegal. Nobody is forcing drugs on you. They definitely can forcefully mug you though if you don't have a gun to protect yourself and they do.
Source: ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2016/crime-in-the-u.s.-2016/tables/expanded-homicide-data-table-4.xls
Carrioncrow54, I'm not sure you understood Troy's last comment. But then, I'm not sure I understood Troy's last comment.
I've noticed that a lot of the people shitting on the "thoughts & prayers" sentiment are also the very same people who changed their Facebook profile pictures to the French flag for the Paris/Nice attacks and to the rainbow flag for the Orlando shooting. What's the difference, exactly?
Please go debate Don Lemon on gun control
*My defense/preservation has nothing to do with strangers murdering strangers. Am I supposed to relinquish the means (weapons) by which to defend myself because a stranger murdered strangers? Children have been shot. So what? I value my life more. Defending one's life is not an abstraction. My weapons belong to me. I bought them. I didn't steal them. They are mine. I will keep them. I will use them to defend myself.*
train your teachers, hire armed guards and save your kids. thats ALL you can do. in your country no law even from god or the lord of the universe will ban guns out of evil hands. its about your children so use logic..,training and armed protectors....nothing else.
Blautann The teachers followed procedures from training and there was an armed guard at the high school
That would seriously help with classroom management. "Quiet James. If you interrupt me once more, I'm going to go over to my desk to get my AK."
Thats not all you can do. Thats not even half of waht you can do. Plus, mass shootings don't just happen in schools. We need gun control. From humans. Not god.
Blaming the type of gun he used to do this is like me blaming the type of camera CNN uses for the contents of their shitty broadcasting. Guns are just a tool. If someone wants to do something bad enough, they're going to do it. Ban the tool, they'll just find another tool to get the job done. You can't ban guns unless you go back in time and prevent the invention of gun powder. The cat is already out of the bag. If he didn't have the gun, he'd just build an explosive. Would it have been better if he blew up the school?This isn't rocket science folks.
I love you Ben but you could have kept the product placement off of this particular video lol
Z Hancox sponsor spots are required if you want them to fund your videos.
1SLUGGO1 yea but it’s kind of in poor taste to make money off of a video that is entirely about a tragedy. There’s a reason most people demonetize videos that are about a specific tragedy, especially if it’s recent
Z Hancox There's product placements and advertisements in pretty much every aspect of your life..
MOE FRITZ I’m not talking about every other aspect of my life I’m talking about this specific video. But nice deflection lol
Z Hancox Ok fine... Why should he not have advertisements in his videos? Tell me one news outlet that you watch?
I don't belong to a left or right group and I don't have real strong feelings about anything political. BUT, this dude Shapiro makes so much sense and backs up his logic that I find it very fascinating. Thank you for doing what you do :)
IT'S THE DAMN PARENTS ("or legal Guardian") AND SCHOOLS FAULT... and everybody around him... they expelled the violent disturbed kid and DIDN'T get him some socratic counseling... ALL THE POSSIBLE SIGNS WERE THERE !!!
JUSTACHIPN bullshit
Conman... why are you personally attacking another viewers comment ??? As for "random Caps Lock... NOT RANDOM... " IT'S YELLING you mindless dolt !!! Now please go see your "overseers"... moron !!! And pretending to be a congressman... pathetic and you need to be arrested !!!
lblis... sadly your right... but this monster was a big red flag !!!
JUSTACHIPN yeah, it was a major red flag. I'm upset that NO-ONE took the precaution to stop him WAY before.
Even worst that he was only a year older than me. I'm worried for my generation and future generations
I honestly think schools should have some sort of metal detectors. After all, our children are going to school unarmed, unprotected, and untrained against such devastating scenarios. Yes, it's going to cost money, yes it's going to be a pain in the ass. But I believe it'll create a, rather, safe environment. It will cost a lot of money, I know, but someone's got to be done. Let me know what you think.
Wow Ben, a shooting massacre happens and the first thing you do before discussing it is advertise tripping dot com?
You still have to follow laws, the show is sponsored and if they don't announce that they can get in big trouble
Its annoying and Im fairly sure Ben doesnt like it either but he to do his job
Still gotta make the dough
Remember that when the MSM breaks away for those few "important" messages from their advertisers. It's practically the same format, that pays the bills. Not really seeing the issue.
It's a legal obligation dude
Okay, so I love how Ben debunked a lot of misunderstandings about gun control. BUT, what is the government doing exactly to stop these tragic shootings? Because these terrible things keep happening????
Why don't we have all police stations be located on school grounds
Sayton Dette There's like 2 police stations and 20 school in a small-medium sized city... It's not in the budget to hire that many cops.
That might help. How many AR rounds could you get off before a cop stops you tho? A lot. You could kill 30 people in seconds with that kind of weapon. We need gun control.
By my way of thinking, removing guns from the hands of mentally unstable and/or violent people is probably the best solution to limit these attacks. It is not legally supported to my knowledge as of yet however. The circumstances would need to be carefully crafted preferably by a panel of mental health professionals. People who litter social media with public statements threatening violence and are known to have firearms unfortunately need to be evaluated for their risk to society at large. Removing guns from the hands of all mental health patients is not reasonable. The current record keeping of gun possession is not adequate to support such a system as of yet however.
It was known that this Florida man had weapons and was threatening violence. There was not any concerted action to take them away of which the public has become aware. I believe this is due to the fact that there is no system in place to deal with this specific problem.
I get why you shouldn't say names to try and glorify the shooter, but that makes people want to know even it more. It's reverse psychology. And the crazy people who do worship murderers will find his name regardless. It's a useless gesture with good intentions.
brian6speed I agree which is why I was surprised when Shapiro decided to not say the name. It gives the killer power over us
I think it's more the public view, like if it's on TV all the time, there's going to be more crazy fucks who think they're going have their name set in stone (even if it's infamous), I think that sadly there are people who just want to be known or remembered and that encourages it by the media basically non-stop talking about it and they even have like a "Top 10" name list of shooters.
Stevo true good point
Ridge _ if the future killer doesn't see the name or picture plastered everywhere it shows that people won't care or remember him. It's not about him being able to find the name. He wants everyone to know who he was, not just other psychos.
It's not so much the fact that we name the shooter, but that we go through their whole life history making excuses like "he was a troubled young man" or "he had a hard life." The shooter is never the villain of the story, just another poor, hopeless victim. Mass shooters do these things for attention. If their actions got the social opprobrium that they deserved (especially from their own families), maybe they wouldn't be so common. If (God forbid) a son of mine did this, I would never allow anyone to speak his name in my presence ever again.
Instead of being at a stalemate about gun control and do nothing, we need to take immediate action which will be armed security at all school entrances.
macroevolve I heard that alot of veterans need jobs, well look at it this way. With simple test, they can keep protecting our people. Already trained. Already seasoned.
Not in the budget.
Dude was a white nationalist who wanted a white ethno state.. .go figure
DublinDapper Lol I don't see how that has any connection to him killing a bunch of white people at his school
DublinDapper he had antifa crap all of his Facebook page
Greg Doherty Exactly the colour doesn't matter the ideology does...both are reprehensible
Troy Bakeman he was part of a terrorist organization that because they were affiliated with white nationalist, our current president administration took them of off a watch list which is horrible. Hate is hate and breeds forms of violence. Much of Ben Shapiro's ideas and many others on line talk about current events to poor less educated people and make certain groups of people like they are losing their rights. So these white nationalist groups takes actions that leads to things like this. It happens on the other side too but because many black Americans were oppressed by the government and police for so long they don't "act out" to these extents as though other groups of people. Ben being Jewish throws me off because his talks sounds similar to the people that oppressed the jews during ww2. He needs to clean up his act. Smh
nobody cares about Porter Gate
I like Ben, obviously I watch his show but his arguments on gun control are ridiculous. People who want guns are gonna find a way to get them. People who want crack are gonna find a way to get it. People who want to have sex with prostitutes are gonna do so regardless of what the law is.... Therefore we should make all of it legal and America will be a better place... WTF
Yep those should be legal too, not the role of the state to impede liberty.
Ayden Bond it’s stops being liberty when that person uses their “liberty” to shoot and murder ppl u moron. Let me ask u a question. If ur family member had been killed by this sick fuck would u be arguing for more gun rights?
Nachum Karz I didn't argue for more gun rights but also didn't argue for less, and as you rightly say when you shoot somebody else it is no longer your liberty as you are infringing on somebody else's. I would like to hear your solution.
If guns are banned then guns would only be in the hands of the bad guys. I want to be able to protect myself.
Ayden Bond this comment section seems like reasonable ppl in here so I’d actually like a debate. I have many proposals. 1. Ppl like this evil shithead who have a history of mental and violence should be put in the fbi database that’s just common sense. 2. Ppl who are taking medication for serious mental health issues should be added as well. 3. No more assault rifles for the public. U can protect itself with s handgun u don’t need a goddamn rifle that can shoot many rounds s minute there needs to be a line. Ppl can’t get an RPG because it’s not necessary for defense. 4. There should be a limit how many guns a person can buy. 5. Most important make ppl go through s month long process to acquire a gun. We spend months getting a drivers license yet somebody can walk into s gun store and buy a gun like buying groceries. These are just common sense
19:55 James Allsup is a TH-camr and most definitely did not shoot up a movie theater
Baldness is only transfered from your mother's dad
Its a y chromosome trait
This is not always the case. The genetics of male pattern baldness are still somewhat unpredictable.
Exactly what I was thinking lol
Ben thinks it can be kept in check by wearing a magic cap.
Where did he get the money to buy the gun? Did he work? Where was he living? He took an Uber to the school, that means he had a bank account tied to his Uber account, where was he working to pay for all of this? So many people knew about this guy and yet no one did anything to stop him. Suddenly he is armed and set loose on the school.
I think someone learned about this little monster and gave him what he needed to do this.
YA DO NOT MENTION THE SHOOTER'S NAME!! I SAW THIS KID ON TH-cam MAKING VIDEOS, WORSHIPPING SHOOTERS. I REPORTED HIS CHANNEL TO THE FBI, DUDE IS PSYCHO. I DOUBT ANYTHING HAPPENED. RIP
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Ben, as a person with right-wing political views, I have to say that allowing that type of persons to own guns is JUST WRONG... The purpose of any gun-control lows should be to prevent insane/evil persons to acquire any gun... but I am quite sure that no law will ever fully prevent atrocities (see what happened in Europe last year)
I don't believe that confiscation of guns is a solution since that is not democratic nor a viable solution... (mostly due to amount of the guns on the market)
Maybe, one easy way to reduce the damage would be to limit the amount of ammunition someone can legally buy... Maybe limiting rifle ammunition to only a few rounds (let's say 5 rounds) per owner.
Also, I don't think that two private persons should be allowed to buy/sell/exchange guns without going through some registration procedure (same as it is done when you buy a car)...
To prevent accidental shooting the following proposal could work: 1) a would-be gun owner should pass a gun-owner exam (which also includes psychiatric examination - just like having a drivers license); 2) any gun owner should be required to regularly pass that gun-owner exam. (every 4-5 years or so)... just as a note: I would do enforce both those point for car-drivers also :)...
BTW... TOTALLY AGREE WITH YOU ABOUT BEING A MAN!!! I have been saying this for years...
Stop saying EXPLAIN! Nobody knows. That's why people want a discussion. Again it would have to be a sophisticated bipartisan solution to s complicated multi variant problem. Explain EXPLAIN why fun reform is out of the question. Not to mention the Trump budget DRASTICALLY defunded the CDC. Who usually would do the research to EXPLAIN what the problem is. Use your head Ben.