This is giving me great results. The fellow stagg filters in my origami seen to flow a little faster which allows me to grind even finer, but you have to manipulate the filter a bit
I just tried this with some coffee by Friedhats (Ethiopia Guji Natural), after the second pour brew stalled towards the end so I had to stop it at 4:00 however the coffee tasted really good. I agree with you that you don't need a complex recipe with a lot of intervention (stirring, shaking etc) to produce a tasty cup.
@@coffeewithapril Yes it seems dependent on bean/roast to some degree. I tried with your Bolivian Gesha (yes I'm behind on the subscription coffees..) and that drained around 2:15 and again really good. Do you use this method on the April Brewer too?
Would be great to have a dedicated video on the significance of the time between grinding and brewing as commonly most people, including myself, always think shorter is better
Hi guys. I usually make a larger batch with this for 500ml water in. Would you say that the same 50:50 (250ml and 250ml) two pour method would have the same result? By the way your Kalita Wave method is absolutely beautiful and yielded the best tasting cup of coffee I've ever tasted.
What kettle is it? Still happy with that? I'm asking if the Fellow Stagg is a good one until I saw that video using that one. ? What do you think? Thanks so much
First thing first thanks for sharing you knowledges. I'm wondering if you notice a difference in the "good way"between the Origami and the Kalita wave?
It seems like the edges of the Origami allows the water flow to be faster using the same filter. But we haven't tried the difference enough to give you any scientific idea.
I have the origami 02 size and for me the best taste is with the origami paper filter.. With 4-5 clicks finer on my omandante from my med-coarse grinding i can achieve from 01:45-02:20 total time 😉😉😉😉
Been trying many recipes for origami. I would say I love your recipe! The balance is very good even on the second temperature. Would be great if you can do ice coffee recipe too :)
I've been using my April v2 for about 3weeks and brewing very good coffee. I do have an Origami on my shelf and some kalita filters too (been using April filters with my April). I'd like to compare these two drippers. You mentioned an Ek43 setting 7.5. Can you convert that to approximate micron size and /or Comandante c40 clicks?? Or is the grind size you use for April v2, about the same that you use for origami?
Hello. Did you manage to determine the grinding on the comandante? What value do you use on your coffee grinders so that the pour is 2:30? I'm setting 25 clicks and the strait ends at 1:40(
i know this is very late reply so it might not serve any purpose, but i'll still write it in case someone else finds it useful! considering it was EK43 (0-16) model, 7.5 would roughly be around 470 micron meter. if we convert that into Comandante c40, it'll be roughly 18 or 19 clicks
Wait, so what allows the use of Kalita filters in the this brewer? It's just a cone shaped brewer, right? Is it the dramatic corrugated wall that makes the kalita filter stay in place instead of collapsing?
I wish you would show how the filter sits in the origami. I find it lays differently depending on where and how gently I rinse the filter. I would assume this has a huge impact on your recipe.
I noticed that you put the electric kettle back onto the stand between pours. Do you keep the water reheated at one constant temperature throughout the entire brewing process? Also, do you brew more often at 90 degrees (updated in the comments) vs. 94 degrees (as in the video) for most coffees?
I suspect holding temperature would provide better results, but that's a bonavita he's using. It doesn't automatically hold unless you press the hold button everytime you place the kettle on the stand.
I was using the 4:6 method with my current beans then tried this one. Suprisingly with my new beans this method works better, I have an ethiopian beans, medium roast T_T I really don't get it. huhu
@@coffeewithapril 2:50! thats pretty long. ive grinded it medium coarse, (filter coffee setting on the wilfa black). And I end up at 2:10. I guess to reach 2:50 or 3, i would have to increase it almost 2-3 steps. halfway to the aeropress setting. Depending on the bean of course..
@@coffeewithapril You remove the funnel at 3:00 - you are running out of water. Help me determine the grind on the comandante c40 coffee grinders. I set the grind to 22 clicks comandante and get a 2:50 finish infusion. In the comments, you recommend grinding 31-34 clicks, but is that not much?
Hi Patrick, how are you? apart from the fact that a flat filter can be used to prepare in the origami, what do you think about the channels or relives at the moment of extracting the coffee
"Traditional brewing is not that interesting"
Eagerly waited for someone in a place of influence to say this for a long time.
This is giving me great results. The fellow stagg filters in my origami seen to flow a little faster which allows me to grind even finer, but you have to manipulate the filter a bit
I need to visit your shop one day, because I've never had a good cup doing this two pour method. Or on the April dripper for that matter
You are more than welcome to visit.
I would really want a close up version of your pouring... Hope you guys could upload a clip of that. Thanks!
Your pouring?
You mean kettle?
@@huyho8987 I mean the camera angle showing this pouring pattern/speed.
I just tried this with some coffee by Friedhats (Ethiopia Guji Natural), after the second pour brew stalled towards the end so I had to stop it at 4:00 however the coffee tasted really good. I agree with you that you don't need a complex recipe with a lot of intervention (stirring, shaking etc) to produce a tasty cup.
To avoid "stalled brews" either work with "darker roasted coffees" or grind 1-2 hours before brewing.
@@coffeewithapril Yes it seems dependent on bean/roast to some degree. I tried with your Bolivian Gesha (yes I'm behind on the subscription coffees..) and that drained around 2:15 and again really good. Do you use this method on the April Brewer too?
Would be great to have a dedicated video on the significance of the time between grinding and brewing as commonly most people, including myself, always think shorter is better
Hi guys. I usually make a larger batch with this for 500ml water in. Would you say that the same 50:50 (250ml and 250ml) two pour method would have the same result?
By the way your Kalita Wave method is absolutely beautiful and yielded the best tasting cup of coffee I've ever tasted.
Great helpful video,by this way make the coffee sweeter and less acid than before.
Thanks,hope more videoes are coming like this.
Thanks for sharing. This what I am looking for. Will try defiantly.
What kettle is it? Still happy with that? I'm asking if the Fellow Stagg is a good one until I saw that video using that one. ? What do you think?
Thanks so much
Bonavita
First thing first thanks for sharing you knowledges.
I'm wondering if you notice a difference in the "good way"between the Origami and the Kalita wave?
It seems like the edges of the Origami allows the water flow to be faster using the same filter. But we haven't tried the difference enough to give you any scientific idea.
I just got a small Origami Dripper and I love it with the V60 filter
I have the origami 02 size and for me the best taste is with the origami paper filter.. With 4-5 clicks finer on my omandante from my med-coarse grinding i can achieve from 01:45-02:20 total time 😉😉😉😉
Been trying many recipes for origami. I would say I love your recipe! The balance is very good even on the second temperature. Would be great if you can do ice coffee recipe too :)
Thanks for sharing the recipe!
Thank you for putting it out there. So, what is the size you’ve been using? Have you been trying both the size S and M?
From the vid, it's M. BTW I have S.
I've been using my April v2 for about 3weeks and brewing very good coffee. I do have an Origami on my shelf and some kalita filters too (been using April filters with my April). I'd like to compare these two drippers. You mentioned an Ek43 setting 7.5. Can you convert that to approximate micron size and /or Comandante c40 clicks?? Or is the grind size you use for April v2, about the same that you use for origami?
Hello. Did you manage to determine the grinding on the comandante? What value do you use on your coffee grinders so that the pour is 2:30? I'm setting 25 clicks and the strait ends at 1:40(
i know this is very late reply so it might not serve any purpose, but i'll still write it in case someone else finds it useful!
considering it was EK43 (0-16) model, 7.5 would roughly be around 470 micron meter.
if we convert that into Comandante c40, it'll be roughly 18 or 19 clicks
Very useful indeed. I need that micron. Thanks a lot. Considerably fine though.
which kalita filter size are you using?
Wait, so what allows the use of Kalita filters in the this brewer? It's just a cone shaped brewer, right? Is it the dramatic corrugated wall that makes the kalita filter stay in place instead of collapsing?
Correct. It's also narrow enough in the bottom of the filter to support the Kalita Filter.
I wish you would show how the filter sits in the origami. I find it lays differently depending on where and how gently I rinse the filter. I would assume this has a huge impact on your recipe.
Thank you for watching. We will try to do that in our future video. That being said it shouldn't have a "huge impact"
Do you taste a big difference?
When you say 7,5 on an EK43, which dial scale do you mean? The (older I suppose) one that goes up to eleven or the later one that goes to 16?
The Later
I noticed that you put the electric kettle back onto the stand between pours.
Do you keep the water reheated at one constant temperature throughout the entire brewing process?
Also, do you brew more often at 90 degrees (updated in the comments) vs. 94 degrees (as in the video) for most coffees?
keeping constant temperature during brewing would result in a better overall taste.
I suspect holding temperature would provide better results, but that's a bonavita he's using. It doesn't automatically hold unless you press the hold button everytime you place the kettle on the stand.
I was using the 4:6 method with my current beans then tried this one. Suprisingly with my new beans this method works better, I have an ethiopian beans, medium roast T_T I really don't get it. huhu
Hit, how much click on comandante/kinu m47 for your grind size? Thanks.
32-35.
@@MrVieuxSinge It is with the "standard" set up with the commandante grinder.
How about the Kinu?
@@idjekyll I set around 4+8 to 5+0 on my m47 traveller for April's recipe
@@gary9800gt that's pretty course. Do you get full drain around 3 minutes or earlier?
Anyone knows that's the grind size equivalent on the Kinu M47?
It really depends of the coffee and the roasting profile. I range about 4:0 to 4:06. Hope that helps!
what size of origami dripper that you use? is it the M one with Kalita 155 filter?
This is the standard size and we are using the 155 Kalita filter.
@@coffeewithapril so it is the M then? Thanks :)
@@coffeewithapril I also do not understand if that is an M or S
Hello. May I ask you the exact brew time? (Not the 3 minutes one) I guess it will help me to calibrate my grinder. Thanks
More than often we are at 2:50
@@coffeewithapril Thanks a lot. For 200gr that means its more fine than coarse. I m running to try that.
@@coffeewithapril 2:50! thats pretty long. ive grinded it medium coarse, (filter coffee setting on the wilfa black). And I end up at 2:10. I guess to reach 2:50 or 3, i would have to increase it almost 2-3 steps. halfway to the aeropress setting. Depending on the bean of course..
@@coffeewithapril You remove the funnel at 3:00 - you are running out of water. Help me determine the grind on the comandante c40 coffee grinders. I set the grind to 22 clicks comandante and get a 2:50 finish infusion. In the comments, you recommend grinding 31-34 clicks, but is that not much?
@@eknib Hello. What grinder do you use and what grind setting do you use to get a 2:10-2:30 pour?
Thank you! Why does the second pour begin at the edge?
Thank you for watching. That is correct.
To make sure the coffee at the edges gets saturated and not stuck to the sides
Also to ensure as much extraction for all the grounds
Me: Why do you prefer flat bed brewer?
Patrik: Thank you for watching, that is correct.
How many clicks would you recommend for the timemore c2
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I think between "15-17" OR "19-21" Depending on the type of coffee, perhaps.
is that the S size or the M size?
I am curious is there any particular reason that you use only 12g of coffee. Will the brewing method change if you use 20g?
Thank you for watching. Currently we believe that smaller brews taste better.
@@coffeewithapril was that a Kalita 155 filter paper?
@@Kyle900t it was the larger version.
Will the taste be different if I pour slower?
Yes, it will. You will have a longer contact time, which is not always a bad thing. We always encourage to test different approaches.
Personally, what is your favorite dipper?
at the moment the april-brewer.
How many clicks would you use on Comandante for this method?
We end up between 30-34 depending on coffee.
It will works if using your wbrc recipe for origami? Thanks
Thank you for watching, it would if you have a flat bed filter.
Hi Patrick, how are you? apart from the fact that a flat filter can be used to prepare in the origami, what do you think about the channels or relives at the moment of extracting the coffee
Thank you for watching. Are you referring to the Origami brewer specifically?
Fantastic video. What water temperature do you usually use?
We brew around 90'C
Hello, How is grind size depends on what kind of coffee?
Aye