This is a heads-up if a friend or family member asked you to spend the night with them and it was absolutely out of the ordinary, you should consider greatly what denying could imply.. if you have obligations and cannot join them maybe asked them to join you and stay in your house or offer to pay for a hotel so they can feel safer. Do not take things lightly because they rarely are at this point of fear. Stay safe out there!!
Seriously. I can’t imagine an obligation more important that my friends safety. In high school my best friend was breaking up with a complete psychopath who kept claiming he was gonna be outside of her window in a bush with a knife, I stayed at her place in her bed with her for a month straight.
@@luisparada4694I thought of this too It’s all very risky The best solution is to find somewhere where he/ she can stay and won’t be found Then relocation Asap !
I am more curious about “Joycie’s committmemt “ was the next morning. She says her friend calls and begs her to stay that night, fearing for her life and is recovering from major surgery and “Joycie” could not break “her comittment”? But she makes sure to be on the show.
Mike was convicted of second degree murder 14 years after her death and was sentenced to 25-50 years. Come on guys, at least put some updates on the comments so your viewers don’t have to. This is almost 20 years old by now
The show has been cancelled so all the shows being posted are just reruns, that’s why they haven’t updated us.. But, that’s good to know. Glad he finally got convicted.
I wonder if she feels like the obligation was worth more than her friend's life or if she regrets not going over there. It's not even like her obligation was for that night, it was for the next day. She could have made it work. As a survivor of domestic abuse, this kind of shit is terrifying and depressing. Your friend calls you freaked out, but you're too wrapped up in your own life to recognize the desperation of the situation.
If the friend went, she probably would be dead now too. The better solution was for Rene to stay somewhere else, other than her home, if she was freaked out. The report says her parents went to check and found her. Perhaps they could have stayed with her or vice versa.
Friend has their own life. It's OK if friend doesn't have opportunities to spend time with you. Friend is not about not to have their own obligations, their wishes, their life, their children
Many fathers, and less so mothers who are required to pay child support will quit their jobs and live with relatives to avoid paying a dime. When it comes to spousal support they will refuse based on they are not getting anything (sex) for the payment, does not matter if she works a couple jobs to take care of his kids and pay the bills or lives of social aid.
They got divorced but he wanted everything to himself so he could "win". The biggest losers around are these vindictive ugly old looking people whose anger has made them old.
Less about the divorce, more about hatred of her who got majority custody, the house, & child support... these people often either hope the murder will tie everything up neatly for them, or at least get the satisfaction of their having killed whomever they loathe
Wow what kind of friend was she you know this man is crazy & she asked you to spend the night she just had gave a kidney damn lady you had something to do in the morning
ONLY 15 YEARS?? If the gun didn’t jam he definitely would have killed her… Only reason why is because of that… that should have counted for something. I feel like if it did he wouldn’t have only gotten 15 funky years… Ugh… so upsetting…
Don't you hate that ? If the 'suspect' wouldn't confess to the police -what makes you (the reporter) think he/she is going to confess (on camera) to YOU ? 🙄
"I can't die. I can't let that [BLEEP] get my kids and my house." Begging and pleading for her friend to come stay with her. I wonder, what kind of commitment is more important than your friend at that point? I honestly can't think of anything.
I think because we don't really want to believe that someone you loved and thought loved you and shared your life with wouldn't actually take it that far. Sadly and unfortunately so many are wrong and lose their lives.
His mother is like many enabling low life "mummies" who treat their adult psychos like the centre of the universe...then they end up dead when they get between said psychos and money or other things they want. They are the most clueless people around like Chris Watts' egg donor.
@MakenziSkye are you engaging in an arbitrary morality pissing contest? Looking for a pat on the head of sorts? That mother did her job - she protected her son under the circumstance.
Big boys and their mommies kind of freak me out. Who wants to suckle as a grown up? What mom wants that kind of kid? I would think thats a dynamic a potential wife should avoid. In my opinion, its super creepy
Mike pagel threw the knife in a lake near Saginaw. He's guilty and he told his brother what he did. His mother was his alibi but she lied if I'm not mistaken.
@@TinaFivestenwhat? Of course relatives can be an alibi, there's no law that says they can't. What if police mistakenly suspected you of committing a crime on a day that you had spent the entire day with your family. Imagine how unfair it would be if your family wasn't allowed to corroborate your alibi. _Anyone_ can act as an alibi.
If my friend begs me to stay the night with her you best believe that's where I will be. She said she couldn't cause she had something to do the next day...wtf
She was selfless and a hero who had people who love her and really know her, and he is a self-serving parasite with no one who gaf about the real him (since he's fake with all of them who love their own DNA i.e., his family members who support that).
Evimer, your guardian angel was there for you. As mine was for me (shot 7 times, one through the pericardium - still managed to go down stairs and call emergency). Well done going to therapy - I did too but 20+ years afterwards. Great girl, all best wishes for your future.
Of ALL the Crime Shows that I have watched, This one about Renee is just so sad 😭😭 ( They are All Sad ) She seemed like an Amazing Lady with a Beautiful Soul . My Love goes out to Her Children and Family. Ri.I.P Renee 🕊💔💞. I can't watch Shows where Children are Murdered or Abused 😭😭😭
Spoiler alert. Don't read the rest of this message if you don't want to know how the first case eventually ended. In the first case there was eventually a conclusion. His mother knew, his brother knew. His brother told police after the death of their mother ( as he had promised rightly or wrongly not to do anything before she passed) He told them where his brother had dropped the weapon and they found it 13 years later. The POS then tried to turn it onto his brother and say it was a plan together with his brother but that his brother actually carried out the murder. The prosecution knew this was not true but he agreed to plead guilty to this but not to first degree murder . So partly to avoid any more suffering to his children by being put through a trial and partly because they knew that even him admitting to second degree murder would get him 25 to 50 years in jail the prosecution went with that. He won't be eligible to be considered for parole until he is at least 80 years old.
We went to ask him if he wants to respond to allegations..... Starts screaming "DID YOU KILL YOUR WIFE" in the middle of the street. And they wonder why he won't talk to the media
She pretty much only had one question. He wasn’t going to answer anything but maybe she could make him angry enough to stop and say something. Sorta how it works!
@@Harley_Girl68 he didn't say anything though. If she tried to get him to tell his side and how being accused has affected him and the kids, it might have made him talk.
@@TrevM0nkey that isn’t likely to have worked either since he was leaving. She was hoping he’d get mad and yell he didn’t do it and then maybe he would answer the questions you’re talking about. By antagonizing him she was hoping he’d stop the car. I wanna hear your side by this point would just sound like a trap to him.
What's the point of fighting him when in primus, the friends didn't help her when she needed the most, and was alive, they were too busy doing nothing. Now they want to fight... She's not coming back. Bear it in mind.😮😢
Why would a good friend of yours turn you down when you need them most. Please help your friend in abused relationships when they call you for help or to stay with them. You don’t know if it’s their last time to see them.
Other than the $2k a month he wanted in the divorce…he got the children and the house!! 🤔 and that’s not fishy enough evidence to keep this case WIDE open & pressed on with the the estranged hubby!! 🙄
Michael Pagel pled guilty in 2020.... 4 years ago. Not that True Crime Daily really does daily updates. They only need the views on TH-cam. With this channel you always have to do your own research to find the truth.
Ramone looked mean and troubled in those photos. Girl he cut youuu! She had to have been in a prior dv relationship to stay in this situation. You CANNOT fix that kind of situation. She should leave town and start over somewhere else.
Not one peep was said of whether or not Renee's house had any signs of breaking and entering. So more than likely it was someone she knew and her ex husband is getting away with murder. I despise lawyers that will defend a murderer!
You should be very proud of yourself, for letting Renee down, I always wondered, what types of friends who don't have time for their friends? Now she's not more, we are Infront the camera to do our mia culpa justification.😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮
This story is tragic, but i feel the way the story is told doesnt do Renee justice either. With all the philantrophy, and then a violent husband... i suspect she was a very loyal and giving person.... as a trauma respons to something that happened to her earlier in life
Police in every socialist country doesn't want to protect and bring justice to female victims and it has to do with what kind of people they planned to bring in 'en masse'. The kind, who abuse their women and children. Between 2020-23, 8 Million of them have entered the US!!
I lost all respect of Hanson during the Onision laptop incident. It just shows that he is just a face n doesn't actually care about his "job". Also his gestures when he interviews ppl r so dramatic n choreographed. I skip all the interviews he does.
Michael Pagel pled guilty in 2020.... 4 years ago. Not that True Crime Daily really does daily updates. They only need the views on TH-cam. With this channel you always have to do your own research to find the truth.
Evemire needs her story made into a movie, I mean that giiiiiiiirrrrrl’s got a story. Ya think. Sarcasm, Sheldon. Well, Evemire, you need a wake up call - so many times you could’ve left that, LIKE, area and get rid of him. Wow, I can’t believe your need for attention.
🤦♀️ the way the crime watch daily reporters come after the perpetrators when they are trying to get a way is nuts. Did you kill your ex-wife!? Seriously?😂 do you really think if he did… He’s gonna stop his car and say, as a matter of fact yes I did. I’m guilty AF!
I'm not victim blaming, but dear lord, if you are so afraid, and rightly so, why do you not go and stay somewhere protected...it happens over and over again. It blows my mind.So even if he lawyers up straight away, they can't get a search warrant for his car and house, looking for evidence? Like bloody clothes or even looking at his hands if he has some cuts?? Well, now after 11 years, he got away with it. So sad and frustrating!!
Because people think "why should I have to move?" I feel for them having to do it but these things are like reptiles that only focus on what they want.
14 years. 14 years of her family and friends going thru hell while he lived his life like he had not committed this vile and viscous act. And a sentence of 25 to 50 years. What a joke. What completely amazes me is how people do these kind of horrible things thinking they are never going to have to answer for what they have done. How does one live with themselves? I don't understand it.
Why I have changed from being selfless to selfish cause kindness either gets you walked all over or killed and you also have people that are just ungrateful
Evie, you still alive, baby girl? Good, glad you made it, but seriously, so many times you could’ve stopped this, like, like, like, like right after the first crap from him.
7:28 pisses me off because it reminds me of a cowardly friend I had who could've helped a mutual friend of ours while they were on a trip together but she had a "commitment" that she absolutely couldn't miss. Our friend ended up in the hospital but luckily lived and is living a good life today. That coward knew we were no longer friends when they returned.
That other tale is another horror one, all those friends, the crazy boyfriend, the obsessive compulsive girlfriend. Some ppl just seek for trouble...😮😮
How stupid was it to let the abusive boyfriend force himself into a girl’s only trip?! And the women AGREED to let him tag along? Like that wasn’t a clue to any of them?!?
Evelyn’s story I went through this with my son’s father. He even put a gun in my face. I have a life time restraining order on him and bought a gun. It took for me to date another man to get rid of him and he still was relentless with phone calls pretending to make it about our son. I’m grateful that I got away. I moved in with the new person. These cowards are usually afraid of other men. They dominate or try to control who they believe are weaker “women”. Even in court for custody he lied to the judge trying to discredit the type of mother I am. These are narcissistic demons we have to watch for the red flags in the beginning. Thank God she survived. Only 15 years is ridiculous… hope they let her know when he’s released . ❤
Chasing after him in his car, yelling “Michael, just one question, just one question- did you murder your wife?” seems so comical. It’s entirely for show / rhetorical / performative. Noone in their right mind thinks he’ll quickly yell out “yeah!” through his window as he drives off lol
Why will this people wait for something big to happen. Once you see someone is stalking and breaking things, you call police for restraining order. And go far away from this abusers. Period. Learn from past mistakes from past abusers, stalkers, murders. We see them from news, true crime.
It took 14yrs for him to be convicted!?!?!?! The amount of years he got also was not justice serve!!! My goodness!!! he got to live all those yrs out in the world and "enjoy" seeing his kids grow and live moments that the mom would never be able to. 😢😡😢 so sad! Poor boys, they were more than brainwashed! Hope that 1 day they can seek and find truth.. Shame on his mom and family members! They are just as responsible as he is.
@tropistan7735 After reading your comment ... I looked her name up and indeed this murder was in 2006 I had no idea Crime Watch was not posting newer stories ... dang!! Justice after 13 years!! He was found guilty after his brother came forward
It's pretty transparent that you "just want to get his side of the story" means that you want to randomly confront himto get a video bite. He is clearly guilty, but even an innocent person would rebuff your attempts. It's part of the formula for the sensationalistic coverage. Except for this part, I enjoy it.
Hmmm. My estranged husband threatened to seek alimony when we had a disagreement over the failed relationship some years ago. It seems a lot of weak males seek an easy life, using women..i blame the indulgent mothers. Nevertheless, we are still married but living separate lives. For me, itz a safe haven from the attention of predatory males...even at 70. Oops, sorry, I digressed. These stories are so tragic...and, i can barely listen to them. Still, i can relate and i am grateful my husband and i both decided to take a time out...instead of staying and escalating.
There's a price to be paid for burying the truth. We are usually guilty of creating our own problems, by sweeping things under the rug. Don't let anyone treat you badly, or it will continue. Thank God; all will come right in the end.
Why did the victim of abuse learn the mistake of becoming a lone with their abuser. This lady already had to much beating. Then when he asked her his collecting his items. She would have came with friends .
I am absolutely appalled that the Michigan State Police did not obtain a search warrant to search the house he was living in and the trash cans and the property to find disposed items after he murdered renee. Shame on the police department for not immediately obtaining a search warrant to search his property vehicle and possessions. I am 100% sure he is the murderer and he disposed of the evidence using his vehicle. 😡It is absolutely disturbing how the police could just sweep this murder right underneath the rug without conducting a basic investigation as they would normally do if they were looking for a stolen marijuana cigarette.😤🙄
Some "friend" you are. By her own words Renee begs her to stay with her because she was scared but you couldn't because you had a commitment? Shame on you. Shouldn't be giving interviews in Renee's behalf 😒
That woman hu WUDNT TK Rene in when begging her -cuz she had a "meeting" the following day (hu cares /let her stay in ur house while ur having ur "meeting" ) is NOT a TRUE friend ! Disgusting.
15 years only? Women that take amphetamines go to jail for 30 years! Everything that this man did to her and he gets 15 years. No justice! He is going to get out of jail and finish the job. This is beyond belief! Pedophiles and killers get away without having to pay for what they've done.
I can imagine YEARS LATER how REPULSED the kids are going to look at their "👿IC FATHER AND THE ENABLING MOTHER OF AN UNHINGED, OVERGROWN MOMMA'S BOY!!!"
I hate how it constantly repeats scenes over and over . A 50 minute programme is only 15 minutes of original scenes the rest is just it repeating yhe sams shit again and again . Then it kinda does a stupid recap like your going to forget what you wayched 10seconds ago AND FOR SOME REASON THE STUPID TITLE MADEME THINK THAT SHE DONATED HER KIDNEY TO HER HUSBAND AND THEN HE KILLED HER AFTERWARDS!!! GLAD THAT WAS'NT THE CASE AS THAT WOULD HAVE BEING REALLY WIERD AND CRUEL!!!!
Lady's ???if a man put his hands on you,he doesn't love you, nomatter what he says, or try to do for you after he has put his nasty hard hands on you,he doesn't love you,and if you all are out having a good time with your girlfriend's, and he get mad, and wants to fight you,he don't love you,get out,im going to say this again, get out,because he doesn't love you,if he put his hands on you, get out,I been married for 20 years, and I never hit my wife, and she never ever hit me,but don't get me wrong, we all go through something, in a married life, but you got to learn, so my point is,if a man hit on his wife/girlfriend, he doesn't love you, remember that I said this,im out#big#facts####
My sister gave a kidney; it takes a tremendous amount of generosity and courage. This woman deserved to live.
This is a heads-up if a friend or family member asked you to spend the night with them and it was absolutely out of the ordinary, you should consider greatly what denying could imply.. if you have obligations and cannot join them maybe asked them to join you and stay in your house or offer to pay for a hotel so they can feel safer. Do not take things lightly because they rarely are at this point of fear. Stay safe out there!!
Seriously. I can’t imagine an obligation more important that my friends safety. In high school my best friend was breaking up with a complete psychopath who kept claiming he was gonna be outside of her window in a bush with a knife, I stayed at her place in her bed with her for a month straight.
I was thinking, what if he tried killing the friend as well for spending the night.
@@luisparada4694I thought of this too
It’s all very risky
The best solution is to find somewhere where he/ she can stay and won’t be found
Then relocation Asap !
Yes!!!!!
I am more curious about “Joycie’s committmemt “ was the next morning.
She says her friend calls and begs her to stay that night, fearing for her life and is recovering from major surgery and “Joycie” could not break “her comittment”?
But she makes sure to be on the show.
Mike was convicted of second degree murder 14 years after her death and was sentenced to 25-50 years. Come on guys, at least put some updates on the comments so your viewers don’t have to. This is almost 20 years old by now
Oh wow. Didn't know they had shows that old that say 1 day on them....sheesh
He got extra 14 years of freedom. Argh! I am glad that he was punished eventually. The poor kids. :-(
Thank you for your update
The show has been cancelled so all the shows being posted are just reruns, that’s why they haven’t updated us.. But, that’s good to know. Glad he finally got convicted.
@@chelsealavaya7263 The date that shows is the date the video is put on youtube not the date the video was made .
In 2020 he was sentenced to 25 to 50 years. Since this channel thrives on outrage and never gives updates and resolutions.
I've only started watching these videos & and have been picking up on that.. it's annoying, to say the least
@@janedoe4316very 😢.
Thanks for your comment...saves me from having to watch.
I think it's because these are old videos and they're just reposting
😂❤🎉
I wonder if she feels like the obligation was worth more than her friend's life or if she regrets not going over there. It's not even like her obligation was for that night, it was for the next day. She could have made it work. As a survivor of domestic abuse, this kind of shit is terrifying and depressing. Your friend calls you freaked out, but you're too wrapped up in your own life to recognize the desperation of the situation.
Friends aren't real
If the friend went, she probably would be dead now too. The better solution was for Rene to stay somewhere else, other than her home, if she was freaked out. The report says her parents went to check and found her. Perhaps they could have stayed with her or vice versa.
I'm sure the friend regretted it, but if the friend went over, she would've been dead too. Cause that SOB would've come another day to kill her.
I. WOULDNT. WANT. A. FRIEND. LIKE. THAT. [[ A. FRIEND. , SHE. IS. NOT. -- BUT. A. SKANK. ]] !!! .
RECOVERING. FROM. THE. MAJOR. OPERATION. -- AND. CANT. HELP. , TO. STAY. OVER. !!!!
Friend has their own life. It's OK if friend doesn't have opportunities to spend time with you. Friend is not about not to have their own obligations, their wishes, their life, their children
Imagine being a father and the court has to order you to get a job.
😂
It's not as unusual as you think.
Many fathers, and less so mothers who are required to pay child support will quit their jobs and live with relatives to avoid paying a dime. When it comes to spousal support they will refuse based on they are not getting anything (sex) for the payment, does not matter if she works a couple jobs to take care of his kids and pay the bills or lives of social aid.
Here we go again. Someone who thinks murder is easier than a divorce.😂
They got divorced but he wanted everything to himself so he could "win". The biggest losers around are these vindictive ugly old looking people whose anger has made them old.
*He ain't tryna pay alimony or child support 😲😆*
And proved it so
Less about the divorce, more about hatred of her who got majority custody, the house, & child support... these people often either hope the murder will tie everything up neatly for them, or at least get the satisfaction of their having killed whomever they loathe
American whyte males 🙄🤦🏽♀️
Fifteen years for shooting someone in the head is insane.
@TheVikingmythology nah, she'd have some psyche evaluation and say "I was on my period." 🙄
@TheVikingmythologyLIER
@@rockon8174you're sick
@@rockon8174 that comment makes you seem ignorant and immature. I'd be embarrassed if I was you.....
Wow what kind of friend was she you know this man is crazy & she asked you to spend the night she just had gave a kidney damn lady you had something to do in the morning
They got him in 2020, but they should have arrested the mom too.
I can't believe she wasn't arrested. She should have at least been charged with hindering a murder investigation at the VERY LEAST!
Yep. The mom is an accomplice for lying!!
He blamed his brother. What a POS
The 2nd case: His letter 'Every thing I did was because I love you'. He's disturbed.
I know right?!!! He might’ve well written “I love you so I should be able to do whatever I want to you”
He shud hav been put in a mental hospital.
ONLY 15 YEARS?? If the gun didn’t jam he definitely would have killed her… Only reason why is because of that… that should have counted for something. I feel like if it did he wouldn’t have only gotten 15 funky years… Ugh… so upsetting…
I would be so scared when He gets out !! Should have got 30 years at least...
Reporter “did you kill your ex wife”? He’s totally going to talk to the reporter. Lol
Don't you hate that ? If the 'suspect' wouldn't confess to the police -what makes you (the reporter) think he/she is going to confess (on camera) to YOU ? 🙄
@@TheScarlett618 Yeah it’s annoying lol
😂😂😂😂
Sadly the children pay the ultimate price! They’ve lost both parents!
"I can't die. I can't let that [BLEEP] get my kids and my house." Begging and pleading for her friend to come stay with her. I wonder, what kind of commitment is more important than your friend at that point? I honestly can't think of anything.
Why would you allow your crazy, abusive ex to go to your home to collect his things without the cops being present?
I think because we don't really want to believe that someone you loved and thought loved you and shared your life with wouldn't actually take it that far. Sadly and unfortunately so many are wrong and lose their lives.
Being a kind and decent person doesn't save you from violent madmen. 😢
Definitely not. If anything being a kind and decent person makes you more vulnerable for people like that.
That ex husband did that. His mother will lie for him and that’s a shame.
It’s mothers like that who CREATE monsters like him. We see it over and over and over again.
His mother is like many enabling low life "mummies" who treat their adult psychos like the centre of the universe...then they end up dead when they get between said psychos and money or other things they want. They are the most clueless people around like Chris Watts' egg donor.
That's not a shame. That's a mothers love
@@negusdawoo Lying to cover for her son brutally murdering the mother of her own grandchildren is beyond a shame
@MakenziSkye are you engaging in an arbitrary morality pissing contest? Looking for a pat on the head of sorts? That mother did her job - she protected her son under the circumstance.
Big boys and their mommies kind of freak me out. Who wants to suckle as a grown up? What mom wants that kind of kid? I would think thats a dynamic a potential wife should avoid. In my opinion, its super creepy
Mike pagel threw the knife in a lake near Saginaw. He's guilty and he told his brother what he did. His mother was his alibi but she lied if I'm not mistaken.
A relative CAN NOT be an alibi! That is to purposly breaking the law, by police and justice system!
@@TinaFivestenwhat? Of course relatives can be an alibi, there's no law that says they can't. What if police mistakenly suspected you of committing a crime on a day that you had spent the entire day with your family. Imagine how unfair it would be if your family wasn't allowed to corroborate your alibi. _Anyone_ can act as an alibi.
Her friends didn't take the domestic violence serious enough. Everyone failed Rene's kids and even Rene.
Exactly.
Usually other ppl don't care or don't believe you.
If my friend begs me to stay the night with her you best believe that's where I will be.
She said she couldn't cause she had something to do the next day...wtf
These ain't friends....
Don't put that S...t on her friends
She was selfless and a hero who had people who love her and really know her, and he is a self-serving parasite with no one who gaf about the real him (since he's fake with all of them who love their own DNA i.e., his family members who support that).
Evimer, your guardian angel was there for you. As mine was for me (shot 7 times, one through the pericardium - still managed to go down stairs and call emergency). Well done going to therapy - I did too but 20+ years afterwards. Great girl, all best wishes for your future.
Of ALL the Crime Shows that I have watched, This one about Renee is just so sad 😭😭 ( They are All Sad ) She seemed like an Amazing Lady with a Beautiful Soul . My Love goes out to Her Children and Family. Ri.I.P Renee 🕊💔💞. I can't watch Shows where Children are Murdered or Abused 😭😭😭
Spoiler alert. Don't read the rest of this message if you don't want to know how the first case eventually ended.
In the first case there was eventually a conclusion. His mother knew, his brother knew. His brother told police after the death of their mother ( as he had promised rightly or wrongly not to do anything before she passed) He told them where his brother had dropped the weapon and they found it 13 years later. The POS then tried to turn it onto his brother and say it was a plan together with his brother but that his brother actually carried out the murder. The prosecution knew this was not true but he agreed to plead guilty to this but not to first degree murder . So partly to avoid any more suffering to his children by being put through a trial and partly because they knew that even him admitting to second degree murder would get him 25 to 50 years in jail the prosecution went with that. He won't be eligible to be considered for parole until he is at least 80 years old.
If the friend had stayed with her that night he may have ended both. Maybe they were all afraid of him.
RIP Rene 😢❤ a beautiful woman 😥
Attempted murder should get the same sentence as murder. 15 years for blatant attempt of murder is ridiculous
We went to ask him if he wants to respond to allegations..... Starts screaming "DID YOU KILL YOUR WIFE" in the middle of the street. And they wonder why he won't talk to the media
She pretty much only had one question. He wasn’t going to answer anything but maybe she could make him angry enough to stop and say something. Sorta how it works!
@@Harley_Girl68 he didn't say anything though. If she tried to get him to tell his side and how being accused has affected him and the kids, it might have made him talk.
@@TrevM0nkey that isn’t likely to have worked either since he was leaving. She was hoping he’d get mad and yell he didn’t do it and then maybe he would answer the questions you’re talking about. By antagonizing him she was hoping he’d stop the car. I wanna hear your side by this point would just sound like a trap to him.
It's part entertainment, part having the public get a sense of his demeanor.
GIRL, You were BLIND from the start!! 30:30
Exactly 🚩🚩🚩
What's the point of fighting him when in primus, the friends didn't help her when she needed the most, and was alive, they were too busy doing nothing. Now they want to fight... She's not coming back. Bear it in mind.😮😢
Smh @ 15 years
I remember this,her “friends” are trash
Why would a good friend of yours turn you down when you need them most. Please help your friend in abused relationships when they call you for help or to stay with them. You don’t know if it’s their last time to see them.
Please please cover my sisters case she went missing after a date with her ex #justiceforericaalosno help me bring awareness to her case !!!!
You do know all of these episodes are re runs from over a decade ago 😊
The show has been cancelled for forever. Just saying, don’t waste your time looking for help here.
I hope his Mother was arrested for assisting an offender & lying to police.
Other than the $2k a month he wanted in the divorce…he got the children and the house!! 🤔 and that’s not fishy enough evidence to keep this case WIDE open & pressed on with the the estranged hubby!! 🙄
Michael Pagel pled guilty in 2020.... 4 years ago. Not that True Crime Daily really does daily updates. They only need the views on TH-cam. With this channel you always have to do your own research to find the truth.
Ramone looked mean and troubled in those photos. Girl he cut youuu! She had to have been in a prior dv relationship to stay in this situation. You CANNOT fix that kind of situation. She should leave town and start over somewhere else.
Lying is the old & new norm , when will it go out of style ?
15 years is some bs, he should get a life sentence.
Not one peep was said of whether or not Renee's house had any signs of breaking and entering. So more than likely it was someone she knew and her ex husband is getting away with murder. I despise lawyers that will defend a murderer!
Every defendant is entitled to legal representation.
You should be very proud of yourself, for letting Renee down, I always wondered, what types of friends who don't have time for their friends? Now she's not more, we are Infront the camera to do our mia culpa justification.😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮
Women donate kidneys 99 percent more than men.
Men are recipient of kidney transplants more than men.
Those statistics are very telling
This story is tragic, but i feel the way the story is told doesnt do Renee justice either. With all the philantrophy, and then a violent husband... i suspect she was a very loyal and giving person.... as a trauma respons to something that happened to her earlier in life
Why are those police letting him do that? They need to go pick him up and interrogate him and his mother!!
Police in every socialist country doesn't want to protect and bring justice to female victims and it has to do with what kind of people they planned to bring in 'en masse'. The kind, who abuse their women and children. Between 2020-23, 8 Million of them have entered the US!!
He asked for a lawyer if they still forced them then they would've definitely beat the case cuz they can't do that
-ikr ... !-
He is in prison now for his wife’s murder
Cops don't just get to do whatever they want. There are laws, & legally, you are innocent until proven guilty in court.
Ramone should never get out. He brings narcissim to the next level. Entitled maniac.
Why is this posted "5 hours ago" when Pagel was convicted over 3 years ago?
Here we go again. Someone who thinks murder is easier than a divorce.😂😂😂😂😂😂
38:07 I truly admire her strength ❤GOD help us❤❤❤
I lost all respect of Hanson during the Onision laptop incident. It just shows that he is just a face n doesn't actually care about his "job". Also his gestures when he interviews ppl r so dramatic n choreographed. I skip all the interviews he does.
"OJ had an alibi as well".. Seriously?? He was found not guilty, genius
E very one knows he did it genius
Oj was found not guilty only because he had brilliant lawyers
I watch true crime daily everyday but this made me cry. Renee such a sweet lady she was
I saw this on Dateline, terrible 😢
in Germany @Monday morning, thank for sharing, this bad Case , What the hell damn.
Michael Pagel pled guilty in 2020.... 4 years ago. Not that True Crime Daily really does daily updates. They only need the views on TH-cam. With this channel you always have to do your own research to find the truth.
loooool not the dollar store wig 2:47 😂
No good deed goes unpunished!
These guys are JUST EXTREMELY controlling. They DO NOT change.
There had to be DNA.
😢 awful
Evemire needs her story made into a movie, I mean that giiiiiiiirrrrrl’s got a story. Ya think. Sarcasm, Sheldon. Well, Evemire, you need a wake up call - so many times you could’ve left that, LIKE, area and get rid of him. Wow, I can’t believe your need for attention.
🤦♀️ the way the crime watch daily reporters come after the perpetrators when they are trying to get a way is nuts. Did you kill your ex-wife!? Seriously?😂 do you really think if he did… He’s gonna stop his car and say, as a matter of fact yes I did. I’m guilty AF!
Why did somebody call the police. When he was beating her on her birthday
I'm not victim blaming, but dear lord, if you are so afraid, and rightly so, why do you not go and stay somewhere protected...it happens over and over again. It blows my mind.So even if he lawyers up straight away, they can't get a search warrant for his car and house, looking for evidence? Like bloody clothes or even looking at his hands if he has some cuts?? Well, now after 11 years, he got away with it. So sad and frustrating!!
Because people think "why should I have to move?" I feel for them having to do it but these things are like reptiles that only focus on what they want.
Study domestic violence psychology from actual trained trauma folks. Your mind is blown from your own lack of education and dogmatic beliefs.
If you have heard this over and over again, then I'm pretty sure you have heard a plethora of reasons why they stay
“I’m not victim blaming BUT” 🙄
He's in prison for it
14 years. 14 years of her family and friends going thru hell while he lived his life like he had not committed this vile and viscous act. And a sentence of 25 to 50 years. What a joke. What completely amazes me is how people do these kind of horrible things thinking they are never going to have to answer for what they have done. How does one live with themselves? I don't understand it.
In this day and age, you gotta be selfish to the core. Kindness is never rewarded.
Why I have changed from being selfless to selfish cause kindness either gets you walked all over or killed and you also have people that are just ungrateful
That's just not true!
Evie, you still alive, baby girl? Good, glad you made it, but seriously, so many times you could’ve stopped this, like, like, like, like right after the first crap from him.
7:28 pisses me off because it reminds me of a cowardly friend I had who could've helped a mutual friend of ours while they were on a trip together but she had a "commitment" that she absolutely couldn't miss. Our friend ended up in the hospital but luckily lived and is living a good life today. That coward knew we were no longer friends when they returned.
That other tale is another horror one, all those friends, the crazy boyfriend, the obsessive compulsive girlfriend. Some ppl just seek for trouble...😮😮
You can do a full series on domestic violence. Women need to take care, abusers pay attorneys to get the charges removed, hidden.
Noooooooooo, Nooooooooo Limitations on Murder 😮😢
How stupid was it to let the abusive boyfriend force himself into a girl’s only trip?! And the women AGREED to let him tag along? Like that wasn’t a clue to any of them?!?
Evelyn’s story
I went through this with my son’s father. He even put a gun in my face. I have a life time restraining order on him and bought a gun. It took for me to date another man to get rid of him and he still was relentless with phone calls pretending to make it about our son. I’m grateful that I got away. I moved in with the new person. These cowards are usually afraid of other men. They dominate or try to control who they believe are weaker “women”.
Even in court for custody he lied to the judge trying to discredit the type of mother I am. These are narcissistic demons we have to watch for the red flags in the beginning.
Thank God she survived. Only 15 years is ridiculous… hope they let her know when he’s released . ❤
The interviewer is the interviewee doppelganger
Chasing after him in his car, yelling “Michael, just one question, just one question- did you murder your wife?” seems so comical. It’s entirely for show / rhetorical / performative. Noone in their right mind thinks he’ll quickly yell out “yeah!” through his window as he drives off lol
Why will this people wait for something big to happen. Once you see someone is stalking and breaking things, you call police for restraining order. And go far away from this abusers. Period. Learn from past mistakes from past abusers, stalkers, murders. We see them from news, true crime.
18:58 this is the funniest thing when they try to run up and talk to the suspect. 😆😂😭
It took 14yrs for him to be convicted!?!?!?! The amount of years he got also was not justice serve!!! My goodness!!! he got to live all those yrs out in the world and "enjoy" seeing his kids grow and live moments that the mom would never be able to. 😢😡😢 so sad! Poor boys, they were more than brainwashed! Hope that 1 day they can seek and find truth.. Shame on his mom and family members! They are just as responsible as he is.
My hearts break for her 😢 god please please bring justice
Her “best friend” begs her to stay over her house and she couldn’t be bothered. But she has all the time in the world to be on a podcast about it.
@tropistan7735
After reading your comment ... I looked her name up and indeed this murder was in 2006
I had no idea Crime Watch was not posting newer stories ... dang!!
Justice after 13 years!!
He was found guilty after his brother came forward
That’s knew .. checking testosterone levels… just get away from crazy immediately
It's pretty transparent that you "just want to get his side of the story" means that you want to randomly confront himto get a video bite. He is clearly guilty, but even an innocent person would rebuff your attempts. It's part of the formula for the sensationalistic coverage. Except for this part, I enjoy it.
Hmmm. My estranged husband threatened to seek alimony when we had a disagreement over the failed relationship some years ago.
It seems a lot of weak males seek an easy life, using women..i blame the indulgent mothers.
Nevertheless, we are still married but living separate lives. For me, itz a safe haven from the attention of predatory males...even at 70.
Oops, sorry, I digressed.
These stories are so tragic...and, i can barely listen to them. Still, i can relate and i am grateful my husband and i both decided to take a time out...instead of staying and escalating.
There's a price to be paid for burying the truth. We are usually guilty of creating our own problems, by sweeping things under the rug. Don't let anyone treat you badly, or it will continue. Thank God; all will come right in the end.
Why did the victim of abuse learn the mistake of becoming a lone with their abuser. This lady already had to much beating. Then when he asked her his collecting his items. She would have came with friends .
I am absolutely appalled that the Michigan State Police did not obtain a search warrant to search the house he was living in and the trash cans and the property to find disposed items after he murdered renee. Shame on the police department for not immediately obtaining a search warrant to search his property vehicle and possessions. I am 100% sure he is the murderer and he disposed of the evidence using his vehicle. 😡It is absolutely disturbing how the police could just sweep this murder right underneath the rug without conducting a basic investigation as they would normally do if they were looking for a stolen marijuana cigarette.😤🙄
The worst "friend" in the world -just feeling blessed she's not MY "friend"!
I'm sorry but, how is Evermere a beauty? Stop the CAP!
The last story has got me bcos I am a survivor of violence. This woman is smiling her ass off like it's a joke honestly
Some "friend" you are. By her own words Renee begs her to stay with her because she was scared but you couldn't because you had a commitment? Shame on you. Shouldn't be giving interviews in Renee's behalf 😒
Are you all allowed to be showing up at ppl houses with cameras asking if they killed someone 😂
Every day, all day! Where are u located? In the USA it's common for media to find u and try to interview you wherever you are.
That woman hu WUDNT TK Rene in when begging her -cuz she had a "meeting" the following day (hu cares /let her stay in ur house while ur having ur "meeting" ) is NOT a TRUE friend ! Disgusting.
Most murdered victims ask to stay overnight with friend some view hour before their actual murder. But friend say no to them what a shame.
How come I feel like all these people who donate their kidney something bad happens. Like the girl who donated her kidney to her bf then he left her.
I think uboy was jealous of her kind heart rest in peace girl you will always be remembered for your kind deed💔🤞
It never fails, western media never fails to villify introversion and introverts.
True
15 years only? Women that take amphetamines go to jail for 30 years! Everything that this man did to her and he gets 15 years. No justice! He is going to get out of jail and finish the job. This is beyond belief! Pedophiles and killers get away without having to pay for what they've done.
I can imagine YEARS LATER how REPULSED the kids are going to look at their "👿IC FATHER AND THE ENABLING MOTHER OF AN UNHINGED, OVERGROWN MOMMA'S BOY!!!"
I hate how it constantly repeats scenes over and over .
A 50 minute programme is only 15 minutes of original scenes the rest is just it repeating yhe sams shit again and again .
Then it kinda does a stupid recap like your going to forget what you wayched 10seconds ago
AND FOR SOME REASON THE STUPID TITLE MADEME THINK THAT SHE DONATED HER KIDNEY TO HER HUSBAND AND THEN HE KILLED HER AFTERWARDS!!!
GLAD THAT WAS'NT THE CASE AS THAT WOULD HAVE BEING REALLY WIERD AND CRUEL!!!!
Lady's ???if a man put his hands on you,he doesn't love you, nomatter what he says, or try to do for you after he has put his nasty hard hands on you,he doesn't love you,and if you all are out having a good time with your girlfriend's, and he get mad, and wants to fight you,he don't love you,get out,im going to say this again, get out,because he doesn't love you,if he put his hands on you, get out,I been married for 20 years, and I never hit my wife, and she never ever hit me,but don't get me wrong, we all go through something, in a married life, but you got to learn, so my point is,if a man hit on his wife/girlfriend, he doesn't love you, remember that I said this,im out#big#facts####
Yes you can just walk away and get trained in self defense and gun classes. The law only "helps" after you become a victim.