Try looking for an right angle USB C to USB A Cable. That should work nicely with your setup. And because it is USB C you can have one Cable go to the left and the other to the right at the bottom of each screen. Or both in the same direction if it suits your setup better.
Yeah I’m sure there is a simple solution but the ones it comes with are pretty meaty. But that’s literally the only “bad” thing I could really come up with. They look and function great.
As someone who's seen a lot of flight peripheral reviews (some of which are little more than advertising for cost of sending the product to the 'reviewer') this was a really good take. :) Nice and straightforward and honest. I don't know if you've considered it but a video running through what you already have, flight peripheral-wise, and giving your opinions would be something a lot of your audience would like. Oh and glad you seem to be enjoying your new work office BTW. ;)
I used a right angle Usbc to usbc sdapter and drilled thru for my. Pit. I also found some cheapish 800x600 screens on Amazon and they work great in my. Pit.
There is an option for swapping frames without physically moving them, it’s in manual. BTW I’m kind late to listen to Low Level Hell Podcast and as I write this comment I am listening to episode 27 and all I can say this is the best so far. Phantom Slammer 😂. As an ex member of a FAC team in 1st tank batalion in 10BKPanc in Poland for two years it is great to hear others stories from military.
Thanks for the review. They're a bit expensive in my opinion, but I don't mind the missing screens. In fact, I prefer looking at the ingame screens because that's where the rest of the cockpit is. I think it's more immersive that way.
Fair review. Something I'm definitely considering getting. Now, if only someone will come up with a TEDAC controller 😜😜 On the topic of TEDAC, I'm currently learning to use a PS5 controller, but I'm seriously considering getting a Left & Right VIRPIL VPC Constellation ALPHA, as it looks these could pretty much cover all of the functions.
I have a set and agree they are a great product and certainly made flying the Apache a lot easier. I mounted mine on a second monitor using a couple of velcro strips each and exported the MFDs. I do the same with my Cougar MFD's so pretty easy to swap if I change around. The cable on the bottom wasn't an issue in my case but would see how that could be a problem for a pit builder.
Having a dedicated monitor for the MPD displays is probably the more flexible way to go - you could then do the same thing with Cougar frames for Vipers or Hornets and just swap the physical devices when you switch aircraft.
0:24 That legendary state of disbelief with the zoom being the cherry on top of the icing on the cake (Princess Sunbutt entered the chat.) 1:51 Apparently they want Pinkie Pie to upgrade from her Pinkacopter to an Apache. She digs those. 2:37 Good enough though 4:38 How awesome is that? 5:26 Those are no joke. Guess it's much easier to muscle memory those in VR as well... 6:26 So unusual to see you wíth glasses... 8:09 That might be pretty bad depending on how you want to mount them. I still havent found a decent way for my Cougars without somehow having to get rid of my keyboard and place it left of me on another computer. I was thinking of building something that sits on top and around the keyboard where I could drop the frames on to. I mean I don't need to be able to look at the screen in VR anymore, so that space is good to go. With that, there'd be some extra challenge since I would want to be able to take the things off of that extra "deck".
If you manage to get the muscle memory blindly, it will be great and you wouldn't even be bothered by the fact those aren't displaying anything. I have the Cougars, but I'm still so much quicker with just the VR controller...
So, @CasmoTV, a couple of months later, what's your verdict - do you use them often, are they still great? Btw, I really enjoy your channel here, keep up the good work.
How do the buttons feel on a real MFDs? I understand it can be difficult to explain, but how clicky are they? Do you have to push hard, or is a soft touch enough?
I think it may be time for a new tape there Casmo. At this point you might as well just use a banana for scale. Displays for the frames would be ace. Too bad.
@@billpii6314 The idea is to place them at approximate locations and then use touch to operate the buttons. I won't actually see them. Thinking these buttons would be more realistic than grabbing my mouse and moving it to click buttons while in VR.
@@C6v1999 just turn off use mouse and use your head instead. Bind a couple of hotas buttons to “use as mouse left click/right click” and you can look and click without your hands leaving the stick.
@@AdrianTaylorUK I did try this in the past and using my head for precision pointing was just too tedious and fatiguing for me; thanks for the tip though.
I use 3 of the cougar mfds in vr with no issue I have little pieces of Velcro stuck on the middle button on each side of the left and right ones and then little rubber nubs like you’d use for electronics feet stuck in the same spots for the center one and it works great.
I am little confused after looking at the website but, WHAT? Selling the mounting brackets also they should be included in my opinion I mean what are people supposed to do just lay them on the table? I have seen other Products done this way because they seem to think everyone's building a FULLSIZE SIM which is not the case. And the Plug is OMG Dumb why did they not put it in the main back of the unit or on the top with a 90 degree angle and make sure to leave room for Monitors, there is a lot lacking in my opinion to these. But the Ideal you had with Merging the Thrustmasters and this one could work but would take some doctoring.
Well, in fact we sold out the units without the mounts way before the MFD/Mount combo, wo I guess it is a personal preference. Regarding the USB, the included one are a bit bulky, I give you that. Any USB C will do, so 90 degree angel will work just fine. The back is not an option since it would make it impossible to add a screen behind. Top would possibly mask a monitor and side would block any other peripheral.
They are supposed to be 1 to 1 scale. I don’t know that for fact cause I didn’t measure the real things back in the day but if they aren’t exact they sure are close enough.
Really wish they would explore the idea of some screens even if it's a "made to order" approach and it took longer. Right now the only ones I know that do these with screens are from China and I avoid buying from China whenever possible.
It was a huge upfront cost for them to make these. Without really knowing what the market would accept. I think in the future they may explore it but right now it’s a big ask for a 2 man operation.
Try looking for an right angle USB C to USB A Cable. That should work nicely with your setup. And because it is USB C you can have one Cable go to the left and the other to the right at the bottom of each screen. Or both in the same direction if it suits your setup better.
Yeah I’m sure there is a simple solution but the ones it comes with are pretty meaty. But that’s literally the only “bad” thing I could really come up with. They look and function great.
Think I'm going to order a set just for the lollipop!
Post a Product review!
You can buy a lot of lollipops for 200.00+ bucks
Chuppa Chups are the b*mb!
man these would be nice just to change the acquisition source!
You got to love something that comes with lollipops!
My very same thoughts
wow a face with the voice Howdy !
As someone who's seen a lot of flight peripheral reviews (some of which are little more than advertising for cost of sending the product to the 'reviewer') this was a really good take. :) Nice and straightforward and honest. I don't know if you've considered it but a video running through what you already have, flight peripheral-wise, and giving your opinions would be something a lot of your audience would like.
Oh and glad you seem to be enjoying your new work office BTW. ;)
I used a right angle Usbc to usbc sdapter and drilled thru for my. Pit. I also found some cheapish 800x600 screens on Amazon and they work great in my. Pit.
Free candy!!! I'm sold!
There is an option for swapping frames without physically moving them, it’s in manual.
BTW I’m kind late to listen to Low Level Hell Podcast and as I write this comment I am listening to episode 27 and all I can say this is the best so far. Phantom Slammer 😂. As an ex member of a FAC team in 1st tank batalion in 10BKPanc in Poland for two years it is great to hear others stories from military.
I never read the manual. Maybe I should!
Must of been a run on them after your video. They are out of stock! LOL
Thanks for the review. They're a bit expensive in my opinion, but I don't mind the missing screens. In fact, I prefer looking at the ingame screens because that's where the rest of the cockpit is. I think it's more immersive that way.
I agree about the on screen. I don’t need MORE screens messing with my brain.
This will be awesome in VR. I just need to figure out mounting the cougars inside them.
Fair review. Something I'm definitely considering getting.
Now, if only someone will come up with a TEDAC controller 😜😜
On the topic of TEDAC, I'm currently learning to use a PS5 controller, but I'm seriously considering getting a Left & Right VIRPIL VPC Constellation ALPHA, as it looks these could pretty much cover all of the functions.
Those are some beefy MFD's. Welp, that's going on the list for when I become rich enough to have a simpit.
Yeah they big
About as wide as an A4 paper :)
I have a set and agree they are a great product and certainly made flying the Apache a lot easier. I mounted mine on a second monitor using a couple of velcro strips each and exported the MFDs. I do the same with my Cougar MFD's so pretty easy to swap if I change around.
The cable on the bottom wasn't an issue in my case but would see how that could be a problem for a pit builder.
Having a dedicated monitor for the MPD displays is probably the more flexible way to go - you could then do the same thing with Cougar frames for Vipers or Hornets and just swap the physical devices when you switch aircraft.
0:24 That legendary state of disbelief with the zoom being the cherry on top of the icing on the cake (Princess Sunbutt entered the chat.)
1:51 Apparently they want Pinkie Pie to upgrade from her Pinkacopter to an Apache. She digs those.
2:37 Good enough though
4:38 How awesome is that?
5:26 Those are no joke. Guess it's much easier to muscle memory those in VR as well...
6:26 So unusual to see you wíth glasses...
8:09 That might be pretty bad depending on how you want to mount them. I still havent found a decent way for my Cougars without somehow having to get rid of my keyboard and place it left of me on another computer. I was thinking of building something that sits on top and around the keyboard where I could drop the frames on to. I mean I don't need to be able to look at the screen in VR anymore, so that space is good to go. With that, there'd be some extra challenge since I would want to be able to take the things off of that extra "deck".
I may have to pick up a pair, design some kind of removable console to switch between AH64 and Fixed Wings
does anyone sell 10" monitors that might work with these frames?
these look great
Did you mapt the controls in Helios or did you use them directly in DCS?
Im not sure if i should buy them. They look very good, but i only fly in VR and so im not sure if i could use them effektivly
If you manage to get the muscle memory blindly, it will be great and you wouldn't even be bothered by the fact those aren't displaying anything. I have the Cougars, but I'm still so much quicker with just the VR controller...
@@CakePrincessCelestia hmmm very god point😉think ill give them a try
So, @CasmoTV, a couple of months later, what's your verdict - do you use them often, are they still great? Btw, I really enjoy your channel here, keep up the good work.
I use them but not as much as if I had video screens attached.
From what I know, screens for these mdps aren't that expensive. But, what I'm worried about is how tricky it will be to get them to work.
How do the buttons feel on a real MFDs? I understand it can be difficult to explain, but how clicky are they? Do you have to push hard, or is a soft touch enough?
Not hard not soft
Question: The USBc that's plugged into the bottom, would a 90 degree angle plug work well in that situation?
100%.
hi sir what if I put another android monitor with the simapp pro application?
🤷🏻♂️
I think it may be time for a new tape there Casmo. At this point you might as well just use a banana for scale.
Displays for the frames would be ace. Too bad.
Yeah naturally the one I had handy was all Fkd up lol
They look good #AIRCAV
Is it crazy to imagine placing these in a manner where I would use them while flying in VR or should I give up on that idea?
How are you going to view them in VR?
@@billpii6314 The idea is to place them at approximate locations and then use touch to operate the buttons. I won't actually see them. Thinking these buttons would be more realistic than grabbing my mouse and moving it to click buttons while in VR.
@@C6v1999 just turn off use mouse and use your head instead. Bind a couple of hotas buttons to “use as mouse left click/right click” and you can look and click without your hands leaving the stick.
@@AdrianTaylorUK I did try this in the past and using my head for precision pointing was just too tedious and fatiguing for me; thanks for the tip though.
I use 3 of the cougar mfds in vr with no issue I have little pieces of Velcro stuck on the middle button on each side of the left and right ones and then little rubber nubs like you’d use for electronics feet stuck in the same spots for the center one and it works great.
Usb C is so badly designed imo. :). But someone always comes up with a great diy option :)
Good review sir :)
An angled USB C-cable might do the trick 🙂
I am little confused after looking at the website but, WHAT? Selling the mounting brackets also they should be included in my opinion I mean what are people supposed to do just lay them on the table? I have seen other Products done this way because they seem to think everyone's building a FULLSIZE SIM which is not the case.
And the Plug is OMG Dumb why did they not put it in the main back of the unit or on the top with a 90 degree angle and make sure to leave room for Monitors, there is a lot lacking in my opinion to these.
But the Ideal you had with Merging the Thrustmasters and this one could work but would take some doctoring.
That’s a way of looking at it. Another is “they sell it complete for one price then a reduced price for people who don’t want/ need the brackets.”
Well, in fact we sold out the units without the mounts way before the MFD/Mount combo, wo I guess it is a personal preference. Regarding the USB, the included one are a bit bulky, I give you that. Any USB C will do, so 90 degree angel will work just fine. The back is not an option since it would make it impossible to add a screen behind. Top would possibly mask a monitor and side would block any other peripheral.
So for all us simpit wannabes how does the size stack up against the real MFDs Casmo ? and oh great review as well
They are supposed to be 1 to 1 scale. I don’t know that for fact cause I didn’t measure the real things back in the day but if they aren’t exact they sure are close enough.
@@CasmoTV ace, cheers
Really wish they would explore the idea of some screens even if it's a "made to order" approach and it took longer. Right now the only ones I know that do these with screens are from China and I avoid buying from China whenever possible.
It was a huge upfront cost for them to make these. Without really knowing what the market would accept. I think in the future they may explore it but right now it’s a big ask for a 2 man operation.
So besides these frames you still need screens for them. I think I'll stick to pressing the buttons in the cockpit with my mouse.
Anyone please view first 30 seconds on your big tv and get very close to the screen. :).