COMPETITIVE PLAYERS REACT TO ''The Wild World Of Competitive Dead By Daylight'' by KILLAWHALE
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- ''The Wild World Of Competitive Dead By Daylight'' by KILLAWHALE:
• The Wild World Of Comp...
''KillaWhale72'' on twitch:
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''MomoSeventh'' on twitch:
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00:00:00 - What is Comp DBD?
00:03:36 - How Can An Asymmetrical Game Be Competitive?
00:08:37 - It's Just Camping and Tunneling
00:20:05 - Why People Hate Comp
01:17:45 - Why Comp Thinks People Hate Comp
01:56:48 - It's Not All Bad
On COMPDBD you can find Dead by Daylight gameplay, clips and edits from various competitive DBD streamers. - เกม
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'The Wild World Of Competitive Dead By Daylight'' by KILLAWHALE:
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Wispy is the perfect example of what Whale is getting at
Real
Absolutely.
Listening to his reaction, I agree! It seems like there is no will to understand the pub side -- which, mind you, he says should be different game from comp DBD ._.
Both sides are in a bubble. Tis is social media after all, we tribalize everywhere we go.
100%
Knight light’s ego part is my favourite
Ikr 😂 can’t even go bald
EgoLight 🥶
BaldLight🥶🥶🥶@@dededede9257
That mofo have 0 self awareness
it's kinda hilarious how offended they get and how they keep proving Killawhales points without even realizing it
I don’t think they are proving his points at all. For what’s it worth, hens re recorded his response to be more balanced after having watched the entire video.
I think its funny how the dude with the left side face cam proves killawhales point about high comp players having big egos almost every time he speaks lol.
Yes its a common thing in every comp scene
yeah wispy is special XD he is 14 and a very good player but sometimes he sucks and then he is tiltet as everyone. so it makes him human and in comp is no place for humans XDD
@@3mm4_666 wispy is 14?
@@Getrect-cf1qh yes XD
@@Getrect-cf1qh What do you expect? Most grown ups don't have the time to overcommit to the game.... So a lot of comp players are just teenagers that got the game from parents that don't care about age restrictions 😅
Side take. There is no difference between being toxic off stream or on stream. For 'content' Being an asshole is being an asshole. Trolling people, bleeding them out. Talking shit, teabagging ect. Is being an asshole, period. You don't get a magic pass for 'content' or 'its satire' That's called being a child.
You are free to do whatever you want with your time, but don't excuse being a shitter as okay because its 'content'
I'd say it's almost worse to do it for content. If some 16 year old sees their favorite streamer being a dick in end game chat of course they're also going to be a dick in egc. If you have a following it's your responsibility to be a good role model
Then again, an interesting way of looking at it is they are playing the game they bought the way they want.
@StarTrolling true but that doesn't make them any less of an asshole. If you play a game and your constantly being toxic your a asshole.
@@StarTrolling They can play however they want, but they can't turn around and make excuses to avoid being criticized.
They're just moving the goalposts lol. Oh it's not actually ego it's just doing it for content? Okay, well that's just shit content, and anything you complain about with the community being shitty kinda goes to the wayside. Also many of Hens' takes are pure cope.
I feel Hens's reaction to this is probably the most eloquent, interesting and well-explained and well-spoken. Momo's is fine, and Wispy is not fun to listen to at best and unbearable at worst. The full spectrum of comp players
Hens had a great analysis.
It is, he still felt he was downplaying the vidoe too much and was too bias and decided to make a new video on it. The other two keep on proofing killerwhales point
Hens is the only one here to properly engage with the arguments in a nuanced way.
Hens and Killa W.
The 14 y/o kid is sadly so annoying to listen to it`s crazy. Calling everything comp players do content is like patching a leak with flex tape works but is right? they often say really disrespectful stuff. I just dont get why being a comp player means to produce content that is straight up disrespecting other players.
i'm unsure what you are referring to when you say "disrespectful stuff"
Wispy's excuses were quite bad, really. And also not a representation of reality or what's going on in those videos imo.
When KnightLight says the low tier comp players are the ones talking sh*t, he means they're the ones starting drama, provoking others, etc., he's not talking about "getting annoyed in-game due to a bad game or facing someone who BMs you."
KL is also someone who trash talks even himself or his friends, for example on stream you can hear him say that a killer is braindead and then he gets outplayed by said killer and will say "Wait... maybe I'm the one actually braindead" and then laugh about how terribly he played. He's not just doing it for content, it's his personality, and he's like that with everybody but isn't truly pissed off or salty at people (imo at least, I'm saying that because he gets over it very quickly) unless the other party is sincerely trying to insult/piss him off.
What Wispy's saying is kinda bad because it sounds more like he's trying to make up excuses for KL. And at the same time he's somehow saying that it'd be OK to be a total AH as long as if it's for content which isn't true at all.
@@lil_230 For example knightlight teabagging and calling the plague names? Or BM'ing the slinger first to provoke and then going on an insane toxic rant ant being an asshole when he got hit with BM back? BM'ing and being toxic and then saying "it's just banter/for content" is cringe and no excuse to being a toxic asshole. How has being a nice, humble human being become "boring" and banter (aka being an asshole and toxic but "it's a joke so it's excused") and being egoistical become being "fun" and is somehow the "fun" content?...
Because ur a pub bot. Talking on a group you know Jack shit about.
The amount of fragile ego the two kids are showing is so ironic lol
I feel like everyone misstook the point "mechanical skill" with how hard it is to git gud. yes it needs thousand of hours to get good in this game but not because the movement is complicated. if you compare this game to rocket league for example. many players practice mechanics for thousands of hours, but even a beginner will be see the difference between this guy and a pro immediately. mechanical skill is simply much more necessary to win your games and the amount of time needed to learn them is simply higher. idk, maybe thats a hot take tho...
the reason i feel like rocket league is a good example for this, is because of transferrable skills. both games i consider so unique in design, that you pretty much learn from ground up.
THANK U HOLY SH*T
Yep they all mistook mechanical skill for general all encompassing skill. Mechanical skill is stuff like movement, blinking to the correct spot you want etc. while they took it as decision making and gamesense tactics etc. They all completely misunderstood. The game has very little mechanical skill (more on some killers), but the tactical/knowledge/gamesense skill is huge.
2nd half of the reaction being like:
Yeah everything true, but it's for content, which makes this ok.
i love how they prove a point of the video in 3 seconds from the start, is always "One guy" and not the community as a all for them lmao
Ngl Hens and momo make more valid points then Wispy I feel like he just kinda yappin. Complaining more instead of adressin too much💀even just goes silent when facing sum valid points. Not hatin on him bro can do whatever he wants but I'm just sayin
Well he is young, and I remember when I was young (I'm 31), I didn't always have a mature response to being called out. I also did and said lots of shit, especially in an online gaming situation. They should work on improving themselves, but I don't usually have high expectations for all these young eSports players.
I thought 4 slowdown best add on nurse was unbearable til I heard wispy in this video
TRUE
Lmfao
He confirms everything said in the video with his obvious bias and the best thing he is totally oblivious to it 😂
Bro no way you put all this together. Big W, thanks for the service brother ❤️
1:36:53 you cannot in good faith claim that map filters are not an advantage. It is SIGNIFICANTLY easier to play on maps like corn with filters. SIGNIFICANTLY
Even just the 'brightness' filter is a huge advantage on a stealth killers
The game looks honestly trash. Also not everyone has the same monitor and the colour settings on their screen so the base game itself can be more terrible for some players having very high refresh rate monitor because the colors aren't usually the best (usually TW monitors). If they had to play without filters they would still play as good as usual. If filters is an issue could we talk about the players playing on 120 fps ? It decrease the input delay and offers you a real competitive advantage, you literally have a fastest response on every input you do.
Dawg them filters shit on stealth killers on open maps, allow you to have more reaction time because the red stains bigger for some reason, and lets be honest the game doesn't 'look' better because your green and red colors are enhanced.
@@l.n.s3709 Survivor scratches, survivors in a distance, stealth killers, maps, certain other killers... list goes on
For example, a huntress who has filters will find it significantly easier to play on corn than without filters
I have played myself on console and a pc a bit when I had the opportnity, I have 7000 hours on console and around 50 on pc (I'm also a huntress main yikes) and I disagree with what you said. When reading it it does sound it gives you an advantage, but in practice it's different. I think this amazing shot from me on a ps4 playing on a tv from 2004 can prove you that players don't need filters to actually do what you said. FIlters don't magically gives you concentration to look survivors from far : th-cam.com/video/9_uzS7Dg5SU/w-d-xo.html
As an Huntress main I have never experienced an "easiar" time playing on corn with filters compared to without
Survivors scrathes are certainely easiar to see if you're playing on red only however I didn't see a much difference compared to filters and without because I was playing with the game being more bright in general
"Stealth killers" I genuinely think it's not true and even if it was then most players could not play around this information given from filters because they are not really good. If you're good enough at the game then this information you should see from filters you would've seen it anyway without filters because you do take informations and look around. Also this "more reaction time" is fuckin bullshit. I'll make it simple, biologically men have a better reaction time than biologically females, and despites this there's girls that are better than most males and are at the top level. It's not seeing only red for having 0.08 better reaction time that would be an advantage. At this point it's ridiculous
for the "maps" well, comp players use specific maps for the killers. If you're seeing someone not playing red only (most players) why would they use filters on maps that are never played in comp if it's not to make the game look better ? I don't know, eyrie of crows for exemple ? Nobody really cares about pubs so it can't be for the win that's what I mean
"certain other killer" I don't know what you mean by that tbh
Your list may be longer but I really think filters gives 0 advantage or impact your game. You should aknowledge that people have different tastes and like to play with filters. In exemple I hate stretch res especially on fps like Apex or valo but it increases your fps and people like the way it look and I can understand that
I’ve never heard two kids contradict themselves so many times with different reasoning and have such internal conviction
Thanks for the trouble of putting this together! ❤
Don't really like how the playes involved their ego when the claim of dbd being mechanically simple came up. The words "simple" and "easy" hold two separate meanings, and they immediately interpreted it as being the latter. Dbd is very mechanically "simple", however it is very strenuous to ingrain these mechanics into a player to be utilized perfectly. I mean all you can press is WASD, crouch, and abilities for killer, so how is it not mechanically simple?
I mean this in the notion that you won’t see insane growth in the gym simply because you lift weight. Lifting the weight is simple, but it still takes a really long time to build muscle.
100%
Its neither imo by the same logic Cs is much simpler mechanically you can crouch shoot walk run plant and defuse
They all mistook mechanical skill for general all encompassing skill. Mechanical skill is stuff like movement, blinking to the correct spot you want etc. while they took it as decision making and gamesense tactics etc. They all completely misunderstood. The game has very little mechanical skill (more on some killers), but the tactical/knowledge/gamesense skill is huge.
@@Sprachitektur Aim is part of mechanical skill, you can't just ignore it when mentioning mechanics
People with 5k hours crying about tunneling always weirds me out, I'm so happy if I get chased once in pubs
theres like a point to when u get pretty good that killers drop chase so soon so im happy to get chased for 6 mins
A lot of people hate being chased. It's legit the part of DbD they hate the most, and for some weird reason they keep playing while stubbornly refusing to learn even the basics of looping but will still complain about it.
I will never understand why some people spend *thousands* of hours in a game and yet hate one of its fundamentals. I've met people with 5k hours on survivors who cannot loop for longer than 15s, and then they rage because they hate being chased and for them it's like chasing shouldn't be a thing you're forced to do. And it's like, bro, the game's literally about a killer hunting down and killing survivors, if you never wanna face the killer either play killer yourself or find another game to play.
There are some real weirdos out there.
some killers have trash chase interactions
@@driftingbout297You're right. Good killers don't chase strong loopers until they already have control of the game. For a killer, chasing a strong looper while gens are being pressured is suicide.
@@Doncroft1 nah, if ur good at killer, it is simply about where the chase takes place. couldnt care less who the hunted is. i drop chase if i see a better chase elsewhere, ie near gens, hooks or teammates. also, most of the "loopers" hide out around shack or main. no, thanks, ill come for the snacks later when the braver people are all dead, lol
I legit couldn't believe how sweaty DBD players actually get, I legit thought it's one of the most casual games I've ever played lol.
Holy shit that child is so annoying
he is literally 14
@@lil_230so the child is annoying?
Which one?
@@lil_230 He's 18, not 14. Not sure where people keep getting 14 from, but his twitch channel has his age.
@@GodsStrongestLeon Wispy?
I love how these kids are malding over some parts of the video, they are proving whale's points in the video
Thanks for posting this, Hens privated his video for some reason so getting more than his pov is great
This is so funny, some of them are hella coping about some points in the video
Thanks for compiling all these clips
everyone agreeing with v1 tweet, but i think the point is that there was no fucking point tweeting it lol, it makes the comp scene look obnoxious
Don't want to sound like "one of those guys", but if BMing on stream is fine if it's "for content", is it ok to stream snipe if it's for content?
Momo clearly said it's part of the game and everyone knows they can get stream sniped, the issue with Momo's case is that the players that ended his streak did it so they can say they are great at the game not for content and they waited him to be tired
Just to put your question in a vacuum without other context, I will say BMing isn't against rules while stream sniping is just cheating.
@@TheLumbersnack stream sniping a lobby isn't cheating lol, stream sniping while mid-game is
So, to summarize:
- DBD appears deceptively simple but requires a ton of investment.
- Comp and Casual are two different communities, and their isolation causes misunderstandings.
- There is only one official DBD mode, helping to split the communities even more.
- The two playstyles increase the animosity when they bleed over into each other.
- There are three categories of player: Hi-comp, Lo-comp, and Casuals. The Hi-vs-Lo animosity is incorrectly attributed to Hi-vs-Casual by outsiders.
- There are multiple motivations for playing pubs: Stomping, Content, and True Casual. Comp players are scrutinized in bad faith, attributing their Pub play to Stomping when it's actually for Content (on-stream antics or keeping the game fresh via win-streaks, etc.).
- Everyone is human at the end of the day. The unknown Comp scene is embodied by the 2-3 most well-known players, and all of their actions are perceived as 100% reflective of the Comp community's philosophy and behavior.
Bro wispy needs to stop yapping and actually listen xD
He's 14, give him a break
Fair
@@fg-l3565 He's 18, not 14.
@@GodsStrongestLeon He's 14.
@@fg-l3565 he's 18.
they are stuck in their own matrix lol
Love Killa Whale! This was so well done, and you did this so quick. You’re insane!
The kid on the left is so annoying.
Edit. The guy on the right as well.
2 hours of pure content ty V1
I love that they all immediately prove the point LMAO
59:55 Momo accidentally falls down the rabbit hole of existentialism, the meaning of life, and human ambition.
"The guy from Tik Tok"????
What the fuck is little bro smoking
He's like 17, can't be helped I guess
its so funny how they consistently prove killa’s point and go out of their way to misinterpret the points he makes
Thank u for this vid, it's really well put together.
As someone wirh 5,2 k hours my mindset about the game shifted once i started playing some 1v1s for fun and actually playing against good players plus i startee playinh all kinds of killer, thats when i started to get better and care less about balance.. In pubs i love facing good killers or having good random teammates but this happens like once every 50 games
This is an amazing vid! I have never heard so many people yap before 🤣
Fantastic video. Something I would like input on as a "casual player" who has only really dabbled in comp a couple of times, and has friends who play comp on occasion. I feel like a bit of an elephant in the room also is that many casual players gravitate towards survivor (which is a much harder learning curve, especially without any teammates to que with), and they go up against killer players with balancing mechanics meant to even out the playing field against experienced and coordinated survivor teams.
At higher levels of play this game is absolutely skewed towards survivor teams, but at mid to lower levels of play is quite the opposite. For example I'm at right around 1300 hours myself. I've spent the vast majority of that time on survivor. I'm at the point now where I can hold my own in chase against 95% of the killer cast very well. I know my tiles pretty well now, my pathing is very clean most of the time, I really only get caught out on a good mind game, or by good use of strong anti loop. I can still really struggle when playing with less experienced teams that aren't well coordinated. Being able to handle a 3 to 4 gen chase reliably is worthless if my teammates are the ones getting chased or pressured. Whereas for the small amount of time I've played killer (less than 200 hours), I've rarely ever lost.
MY FIRST TIME EVER PLAYING KILLER, I played as Onryo (before she ever got her rework), mained her for like a month straight, and lost like one match. My survivor experience couldn't be more different.
My point being I think it's pretty unreasonable to demand for newer casual survivor players to have a significant amount of hours, a full coordinated team, and a build comprised of perks from different characters you have to buy, to have any real fun at all by not getting smashed Everyone being funneled into one que, and balancing around that one que makes it feel like at this point in time experienced/comp players have a real stranglehold on the fun of the whole community.
TL;DR I think casual and newer players should have their opinions and experiences catered to as well. To say they shouldn't is a mindset that is elitist, people shouldn't be gatekeeping whether other peoples experience in the game should be valued or not the way this community does these days. Hyper competitive players, are kind of strangling the fun out of the game for other types of players these days, and it is a bit of a problem imo.
So basically the lesson here is delete twitter improve your life
Uff, when i am through with this video i will forever see comp dbd as some underage boys with voicecracks and short attention spans yapping about some things only they care about... jesus...
Right, I didn't realize that all these comp players are literal children
"Some eu teams might claim bad rng for loses" shots fired😂
2 hours is crazy
50% momo
bro this is actually hard work like putting all these perspectives on a single vid, love u compdbd
Dude on the left is the reason comp has it's reputation.
You edited this so well I thought it was a bunch of comp players watching together for about 20 minutes. Amazing editing
2:29 I couldn’t agree with Hens more! That’s the whole reason why I found this channel and have been consistently watching
When watching this video, it's important to remember that there are no other official game modes other than "pubs"
At 23:47 the problem is more so that people feel the NEED to humble a player and show them that they aren't as good as they are.
While it is true, players who play only pubs and dominate aren't nearly as good as they might believe, them having that belief doesn't warrant others to shit on them and "put them in their place".
my experience with comp players is either they are the most wholesome people that actually want to help you to improve (actually really improved my pathing on both surv and my gameplay on Plague thx to that) or the most toxic people that will insult you for a small mistake.
Everyone has an ego and it does not matter the game or if comp/casual. A thing they should really add is a more clear rank system, but that wont happen.
The best players in the game are easily accessible. As long as you're not asking dumb questions (who will win between this / that player, etc), they're very helpful.
Love this reaction compilation . Peace for knightlight 👍🤓
35:37
Why is mans chewing monster energy
His mommy told him to always chew before swallowing so he does it with everything
We love Hens
I think the problem in the “rivalry” between comp players and casual players is that they are surrounded by the same as them. Comp players don’t play solo q all week, and casual players don’t play 1v1 and scrims against players the same level as them.
Ahahah, all of them are yapping so much I love it!!!!
There's just one problem that needs to be addressed: casuals DO care, they care differently from comp players and therefore can't be excluded from patches and updates. A good developer will take input from casuals and comp players both. In fact, casuals usually get more support considering they make up the larger population and therefore make the most money for company
now we need some high hour pub exclusive player to react to this
also one of the calmest streamers (personally, I only know him) is EXIZE. I've never seen him get nervous or act rude/disrespectful. This also indicates a very high level of intelligence, both mental and emotional. you know, you look at all these aggressive streamers and, willy-nilly, you also begin to behave like this, to one degree or another. it was the same with me. but when I started watching EXIZE, I began to feel more relaxed about the game and gain more experience from my bad gameplay (in other words, I began to study better). and it also helped me change somewhere in my life and look at some things a little more soberly (not globally, but it gave me a more calm/sober outlook on life in some moments). All this means is that when children watch aggressive streamers or streamers with a big ego (it doesn’t matter whether they deserve this ego or not) and the way they think and act, they become similar (not all, but many). so yes, the ego problem is a very big problem
“My bad bro lemme open some chests” Like wispy is right wtf are they supposed to do💀😭😭
My solo queue teammates will do exactly that.
To me, gen rushing is bringing a gen rush build and slamming gens as hard as possible. The best toolboxes, the fastest repair perks etc. It's a gambit because you have nothing for chase or recovery.
as a competitive-casual, with no plans to enter the comp scene, i really agree with wispy saying the game needs a competitive queue. i really want to play with other people who want to win, but that’s never been consistent in solo queue. even if most people would rather win than lose, the majority of pub players simply aren’t willing to actually put in the work required to win and learn from their mistakes. they’d rather give up the second somebody gets tunneled and than cry on twitter/reddit about it.
i watched 2 hours wispy hens momo talking
if these 3 were assigned to do a group project that shit is never getting done. wispy is sending emails to the professors about how his classmates are throwing the project. momo doesnt even show up on presentation day.
Wispy is genuinely unbearable
No
That screechy voice
@@WPrevent1onhe’s literally a child. Please feel free to post vids of your voice when you were 13/14.
@@kaci273645 he shouldn't be playing a mature game. I'll contact his parents.
bro is 14, actually chill out
thanks for the vid v1! 2 hrs of brainrot ❤️
5:00 another example is tf2 w/ its similar bans and limit of rng and there are no official tournies altho it has organisations like esea and rgl
2 hour yap session is wild
Ask a comp player what humility is and they'll ask you what comp team he's a part of.
Regarding the basketball argument, I guarantee these comp players would be pissed if lebron James and the lakers showed up to the gym and played 5v5 and destroyed them 21-0 while taking it serious.
"It takes a 1000 hours to go against a trapper alone" what is bro yapping about💀
It does
It takes 1000 hours to get decent at a normal chase with a m1 killer (trapper). But most of the killers have unique powers, and learning how to chase against these will take even more time.
As someone who used to know many comp players appx 2 yrs ago and play with them myself. That’s not true at 800hrs I was just as good as people with 10x that amount and had extremely good movement. Fact of the matter is the only “skill” in dbd is map knowledge and how to properly run and chain tiles together. The actual running of the tiles is very rudimentary. Moonwalking and stuff is difficult to learn, but next to useless in chase and just for having fun & showing off. I don’t play anymore, but to say it takes 1k hours to get good enough to 1v1 trapper is absolutely laughable. M1 killers are literally free to run forever if you are any good at the game. If someone knew what they were doing they could imo learn to loop an m1 killer in ~50hrs
@@kyle57688 no way you are real bro 💀
I genuinely love watching comp dbd it’s so entertaining for no reason
This shit a fkn movie bro
splicing is phenomonal bro
Yo comp dbd is fun to watch. Especially when you’re understanding the boundaries of efficiency.
People watch guys play ball at the park but when you go watch the NBA you’re likely to see the creme de la creme at the precipice of talent and ability.
Ill never play as good as hens or xeno but i love to watch those two titans duke it out.
Bro really forgot to say
I HOPE YOU ENJOY
Dbd shouldn't be balanced around the best player, nor should it be balanced around the worst. The game should be balanced in a way to make it more fun.
Excusing being an asshole with "it's for content" is cringe af. Like with knightlight saying bitch and teabagging after outing the plage. Momo was saying it's ok to be excited after outplaying. Yes it's ok but you can get hyped about it and celebrate it without insulting the guy and being an asshole. And what's hypocritical is they say they never act like this, but they do often, and then try to excuse it with "it's for content".
As to the "giving respect" endless spiral. The few comp people that behave well are not getting respect because the vast majority of the comp people don't behave so the public view of is still negative. If the majority of the comp people started to behave and that would be what is seen more from comp scene the public view would starrt to change. So people using the excuse of "the few respectful comp players aren't getting the respect so no point in trying" is just a false conclusion that misses this point.
Vast majority of comp people in dbd have an egoism problem. And no actually being one of the best in the world doesn't make it ok to be and excuse you to be egoistical aka an asshole. What happened to being a nice human that is humble and not condescending and toxic in general.
The nthem disagreeing that dbd is a mechanically simple game, but they saying that it's easy but gamesense is much higher, but still disagreeing with the statement. They don't understand the separation from mechanical difficulty of a game from gamesense and tactical difficulty. They understood the statement that "dbd mechanically is simple" to also mean gamesense/tactically is simple, when that is not what it meant. Also later whale said you can master the MECHANICS skill in 1k hours, not become in general a top player in 1k hours. But they again did not understanding the separation of these to skillsets that whale is talking about.
Then explaining all that missed context from the times streaks were ended etc that they got sniped by other comp players and it's only shit talking with other comp players so it'S ok. What they don'T understand for all other players they don'T know that the people they are shit talking are other comp players on alts streamsniping or whatever, so they again look like assholes and bring down comp reputation. If the dbd comp scene wanna be respected and taken seriously they need to act professional like valorant etc pros.
"How do we fix low tier comp players egoing people? Just ban them all?" No. Not permanently at least. You issue penalties. Like they can't participate in the next 2/ whatever number big tournaments, the entire team or just the player. Or think of other ones that would actually be discouraging like this. And be strict about upholding those rules.
Yes the sniping ego boosted comp players that do it to end streaks are cringe, but you like knightlight guys shouldn't lower yourselfs to their level and act like that when they do it. Again you just bring down comp players reputation.
1:27:33 The problem is not that they have an ego, it's that they are assholes about it. Their are egoistical. Like kn in that clip where he provokes the bm by bm'ing first, but they going on an egoistical rant and being an absolute asshole to the slinger player, and then excusing it with "for content". This is the problem. Behaving like this is not "only human" like momo said. Only human is to be humble and nice, not toxic for no reason "for content". Wispy saing "see this is funny" at kn being an asshole first to provoke, and when he gets the reaction going even harder asshole mode is the problem. How is being nice and not toxic bm for no reason seen as boring nowadays? So dumb. He is part of the problem.
You can make content and react in hype ways without being toxic in the process. "for content" is not an excuse. And yes streamers and comp players are being held to a higher standard because you're supposed to be professionals in a field (streaming, playing dbd competitively, etc). Of course you're held to a higher standard, and that's appropriate. Yes you're reacting more and overexaggerated on stream, whale is not failing to realize that. What you're failing to realize is you can react and make content without being a toxic dickhead in the process.
"High tier comp players only ego other comp players os it's fine" No. If dbd comp scene wants to be taken seriously and respceted they shouldn't ego anyone. This constant egoing makes the comp community look like bratty children fighting in the sandbox. Just be humble. How hard is it to be an nice human being?
"what are we supposed to do beside streaks etc?" It's fin to play them and sweat in cubs, but don't go around claiming you never do it. That is the hypocrisy point whale is making there. So yes kn is being hypocritical by saying that they never do it when they actually do for content. Here "for content" is fine cuz you're not being an asshole for no reason by going for streaks and sweating in pubs with top builds. You're just playing the game. Just don't say you don't do it when you do do it for content lol
"no fun allowed, no cussing allowed, even if they cuse your entire family" What whale says is unprovoked being toxic asshole is bad. How is this not understandable. How is being and asshole for no reason "fun" and condoning it "no fun allowed" like wtf. Especially as a streamer/comp player you shouldn't behave like this.
Until dbd comp community starts regulating themselves like actually comp scenes like val they will never be taken seriously.
And man, wispy is literally the perfect representation of what's wrong with the comp community LOL
Well put
1:01:10 reminds me of that news reporter who mocked a 13 year old kid for beating Tetris by having a score so high the game could not generate any more pieces by saying that he should "go outside" and that "video games are not a real accomplishment"
And it's true.
Video games are not a real accomplishment
@@Muath-Mahmoud what do you think is the point of my comment?
Bro, the divide between comp and casual players is actually insane. Also, what are comp players supposed to do whenever there isn't a tournament being played? Are they not DBD players as well? It's like saying "oh you're too good at the game, therefore you're not allowed to play ranked with us cause if you do you're just stomping on others. Stay in customs you filthy comp player". Like??? They have every right to play in ranked as much as anyone else, people have that energy for comp players but no one would say that to a 12k hr non-comp player. Couldn't you argue that those people are also "stomping" on others? The hypocrisy from the community is insane, man.
I just don't understand why would a comp player go tryharding in pubs. A killer tryharding against solo q with 4 slowdown or another stomping build is just cringe. Go play, but why sweat with people who obviously doesnt have the same skill level? It just makes the game misserable for everyone
@@Parainsomne
I get your point, but here's reality: those super sweaty players with 4 slowdowns and who hardcore camp/tunnel at 5 gens ? They're not comp players for the most part, they're casual players.
Whenever I watch comp players playing pubs, they're perkless or bring meme stuff, they're also often addonless. I guess it's different when trying to do streaks, some will bring the best stuff, some not. KL has done streaks with zero perks and zero addons, just like he's done streaks with strong stuff.
But the comp scene is very small, it's not like they play pubs or even meta in every games. So like 99% of the sweat lords we meet in pub games are actually casual players, not comp players.
@@Libellulaire thats not quite true tbh. That they just meme. But yeah most russian blight sweats would get shit on in a scrim against decent comp players duh
@@Parainsomne are they not allowed or something? Are they obligated to "dumb it down" (by not using good perks that literally EVERYONE ELSE uses) so that other people don't get salty about losing?
Do you keep this same energy for +10k hr non-comp players? Do THEY also gotta avoid meta perks, otherwise they're "stomping" and "making the game miserable for everyone"? Be so fking for real my guy
@@_danicalifornia @_danicalifornia no need to be that deffensive my guy, but what fun is to overkill the other unprepared team other than masturbate your own ego? The games arent fun when you're curbstomping your oponent, and survivors certainly dont have fun playing against a better player with a high tier killer with broken addons and 4 slowdowns. It is not an issue that just comp players do, of course i find cringe every sweaty surv swf with 2 comodious, map offerings, 2 flashlights and 4 off the records. The same apply to every sweaty killer. Why would you suck every inch of the fun preparing against the best players when solo q is such a clown fiesta. It just signals to me a very low self steem that needs to be stroked by making the game misserable to other people. Of course Momo's streak was impressive, but it was with done broken perks and the only teams that could offer any fight were equipped with equal busted shit and most of the games were boring 4k 5 gens against baby pubs.
What I personally don't like about comp dbd is how restricted it is because of the perks ban, seeing the same killers and perks all the time because balance issues, and the fact camping plays such a huge part in competitive dbd, like most of the times killers just camp first hook to death because sadly its the best way to gain the most pressure as a killer in this game and the unhook mechanic is banned, tunneling a survivor as fast as possible, it makes it a bit boring and repetitive, there should be a better way for killers to gain pressure, and be punished more for camping. Also would be nice to see more killers, maps, perks variety in comp dbd, gonna lose my mind if I have to watch another pinhead or wraith on dds. The most fun to watch is definitely Ghostface on Lery's.
From my own experience isn't a lot more variety in public games compared to comp, because people are allowed everything. This means people will just run the same best builds. In comp the rulesets are different for different killers and different tournaments, and because all perks can only be used ones there has to be variety. Also, teams can choose what killers they ban/play, so every killer can be played in comp but people choose what they like
The restrictions are what make it interesting tbh. Otherwise every nurse trial would be like a 4k 5 and every ghost face trial would be a 4 man out
the doing stuff for content can only be used so far until its copium
God bless CompDBD, thank god we have you and you do this type of content, like it's so good that you edited this whole things together. 😻😻
Does anyone know what the original vods are so I can watch them individually?
Me too! I know Hens had his up on his channel, but he put it on private. So if anyone knows where to watch that one, please due share.
Id check our wispy and momos twitch (the facecam guys) and see if the vods are still there
Anyone know what tournament the spirit match happened in?
It's wild to hear what some of these guys (specifically the younger dudes, I think Hens was quite fair in his assesments as usual) are saying, until you realize how young they exactly are. The fella with the cam on the right side saying that DBD is on par with other games in terms of competetive skill requirement is a bit wild. Just Tekken and Starcraft alone lap this game in demands from their pros, kinda shows that Killa was right about the bubble situation. But you also have to keep in mind that these guys are basically babies, they had very little time to broaden their perspectives, so you can't really give them too much grief over it.
People generally say the game they have the most experience in compared to other games has a higher skill celing. This is due to bias. A high level competitive dbd player has a better understanding of the actual skill celing of the game compared to pub players. You probably didn't watch it fully because he was not talking about mechanical skill. He would agree with tekken or any shooter requiring more mechanical skill compared to dbd.
@@COMPDBD I will admit that i watched about two thirds of it, because the two younger guys were a bit jarring to listen to at times, so I probably did miss that!
i respect momo more after this video
they ABSOLUTELY can still cope even with no perks. i consider myself a solid killer and i went on a journey to become a crazy billy and ran him with lethal pursuer 0 addons 0 other perks for 50+ games and i had multiple times where people complain and bitch about any little thing that happened in the game just because they lost. its unreal
Hens & Momo = Based
Whale = Misinformed
Wispy = Genuinely bad ego
I think someone from the comp community should reach out and have a conversation with killer whale. Also I think that to keep toxicity down there should be a penalty in tournaments (minus 1 hook stage or something) but i guess since they arent sponsored and no orgs or real point it doesn't matter.
A lot of tournaments already have this but toxicity isn't really common in tournaments
If players are actually trashtalking they usually get instant dq'ed
Hens re-recorded his reaction because he realized how bias he was, and how much he was downplaying the video and it turned out he agrees with 90% of the video. Should have used that one instead of his original that from what I know is now deleted. Also the other two just keep in proving killerwhales points without realizing it and that's hilarious
I made and uploaded this before hens removed and re recorded his reaction
COMPETITIVE PLAYERS REACT TO ''The Wild World Of Competitive Dead By Daylight'' by KILLAWHALE
I could swear whispy was a 30 yo guy wtf
YES A COMP ❤
a 2hr comp dbd video 😮
When I had 1k hours comp made no sense to me, but as you really start to understand the game, it makes more sense, and you start to recognize the skillful plays more. I have 5k+ now, and it has become incredibly interesting and entertaining now. The problem with the entire comp scene is how much you need to understand just to enjoy it. You need over 1k hours actually playing dbd to even understand what's going on in a match. I think some of the comp players get frustrated trying to defend comp dbd, and argue game balance in general, with people who don't have enough experience in the game to understand the basics of comp dbd, let alone the balance of the game as a whole. I also think people who play comp forget how complex it is sometimes. The game is so complex already that you need thousands of hours playtime just to have decent game sense, and comp adds another layer to it. It's like explaining physics equations to someone who is just learning algebra. They don't have the knowledge required to understand what your explaining to them.
i mean, they kinda prove the point.
They say stuff like, "i got mad because they were not good and where trying to prove they were better than me. And procceeds to list all the reasons they got him" so he had to show them their polace basically.
We all have egos, but some people let that ego define them and nobody likes to deal with people who look down on others because they feel they are better.
Edit: also, that differentiate thing for content and not?, sooo the ones made for content do not happen or what? it still affects the games you played, the people you play against, and the people who watches.
So many killers go for 4k, letting players slugged on the ground while looking for the last player, so many survivors try to not let the killer have a single hook and a lot of it comes from them seeing someone else doing something like that and thinking, this is how it should be.
One of the biggest things nobody is talking about is that this behavior in dbd is equally common outside of comp. If your argument isn’t mutually exclusive to the two groups you are comparing, it isn’t an argument.
Perception is reality
Life is perspective
Someone explain to me how behaviour removing killers from instagrabbing you when you try to save someone was a bad update, because you can still do a 2 man save just as easily?
Before the update you couldn't just run in and trade a hook, you HAD to 2 man save if you wanted to do it safely. Meaning right now a lot less coordination is needed, which means less skill expression but probably better for solo queue
@@COMPDBDyou could trade tho? Unless I’m misremembering. That’s what lead to the game of the survivor trying to bait the killer to swing and the killer trying to insta grab the survivor off hook, no?
Like yeah if you wanted to survive too then get another person to help save but that is still the case now.
@@ricksanchez6766 true, but because of the grab mechanic trading wasn't really a safe thing to do and people in comp wouldnt rely on it
@@ricksanchez6766 You couldn't guarantee a trade and there was essentially no skill to it. Not to mention ping played a part
@@fg-l3565 so the comp players are mad behaviour made hook saves take more skill?