This was a very helpful video. I've been thinking a lot about this radio. I think it will revolutionize Ham radio and get many people on SHF bands. Thanks for your video. If ICOM doesn't give you an IC-905 to review, their nuts!
Excellent Q&A on the IC-905. Great point on the antennas and thank you for the link to your previous videos. We know it will cost some serious money but it will be worth it.
I am so glad to find an Australian ham radio channel. There are many great channels, but they are mostly in the USA. It is difficult with an overseas channel to know what you can and cannot do, because laws and regulations differ between countries.
There are good questions there, and thanks for the answers Hayden. You are right that we need to experiment with these bands or risk losing them. Icom is making it easier to assemble the gear required.
I have not seen hard-line like that... it looks like car brake line or pyro in electrical work. You should buy one, you like playing with those crazy frequencies. 👍📡
Can’t wait to play on rain scatter 10g 😉most often when it’s raining, I get kicked from 160m, so it be nice to pick up the rain scatter ☺️Current specs ??
I wonder whether the price of the 9700 will drop once the 905 is released. I’d love to get into the higher bands, but if the 905 is super-expensive, I could at least start with the 9700 when I’m ready to get into that part of the spectrum. I already love my 705.
If it say icom it’s gonna cost you if you plan to buy in the first year 😉yea the rig n up to 5.6 will be 2k ball park plus 6-800 for 10g transverter/antenna my best guess 🤔
@11:57... not to argue against Icom's decision to limit the RF to 10W, but the PoE limitation should not be the reason. The PoE++ standard can deliver 70W to the load, which, at even poor efficiency, should allow a 25W RF output. The 10W limit is the result of a bottleneck somewhere else... perhaps in the boost converter in the control unit being limited to heat dissipation from the two smallish heat sinks.
In the commercial world, if the outdoor unit (ODU) fills with rainwater, they swap out the ODU... and they chalk that up to an operational cost. For an amateur though, that's $1000 or more to replace the ODU. I don't know how comfortable I am about having that sort of investment sat atop a mast in Ireland's damp, dreary and often frosty or snowy conditions.
I agree that DTV would have been great, but I think ATV is still really cool. Composite video is getting pretty old, but it's also dead simple and there are cheap ways to convert a digital signal. It also sidesteps a lot of complexity with different DTV standards in different countries (Wikipedia says there are 5 different standards: ATSC in US, DVB-S in Japan/Aus/Eu, etc). Even DVB has DVB-S, S2, T, T2, etc.
There are some 2m/70cm/23cm triplexers on the market (such as the Diamond MX-3000N - TRIPLEXER (2M/70CM/23CM). All seem to be roughly the same construction, so might just be knockoffs of each other. Loss seems a tad high on the 23cm output (0.4dB) on this Diamond model, but otherwise, workable. 55dB isolation.
I’m interested in the specification for 13 cms. It needs to cover 2304 MHz (USA), 2320 MHz (Europe), and 2400 MHz (Japan and QO-100) to be generally useful.
It does not say it is full duplex but did you notice the screen shots do show "VFO A". Why would you put that there if there was no VFO B and if there is a VFO B we can only hope it's available for full duplex. Fingers crossed.
Hate to tell you, but VFO A and VFO B don't mean dual receivers. There are a lot of single receivers that have two VFOs, basically just a memory switch.
G'day Hayden. Grouse video mate. It's been noticed by Icom America. Have you had any success yet from Icom re borrowing one for later this year in Tassie??
realistically the only limiting factor on speeds for the higher frequencies is regulation. even on HF we're currently limited by regulation (though hopefully changing soon in the US)
i think too many amateurs don't know the danger of high frequency radio. above 2.4GHz you could seriously hurt yourself with power that seems low on lower frequencies. icom wouldn't want people getting hospitalized with their product, so their choice seems decent from that perspective. Also in Japan, power limit for 2.4 to 24GHz is 2W (unless it's for EME or if for ground to ground you get officials to inspect your whole station's setup) so that is also probably the reason for their choice
Well, great radio but nothing new as far as bands. I disagree with one persons explanation as to why 220 and 902 was not included. Icom 220 radios are selling for more than they did new (IC-375A) and the Alinco DJ-G29's sold out (after the 300+ of them that were locked in a SF warehouse for years were finally released) and if you can find one, they are selling for more than they did new! I already have all these bands but 900, 2.4 and 10G are large and cumbersome and without 220 and 900, it's not worth $5K just for an easier/smaller 10G system tower mounted. I'm sure there are other great remote possibilities, but here in the US. 220 and 902 are widely used and not worth the price for this fine radio without them.
I really cannot see the point of this radio. It is going to be point to point communication, even via a satellite. Any buildings or hills or even wet trees in the way, and you are stuffed, yes OK there will be times when your signal will bounce off an object, and you may hear someone not like of site, but it will not be the norm. I expect there will lots of them for sale on the second hand market after a few years. No, I am not a kill joy, but being realistic.
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This was a very helpful video. I've been thinking a lot about this radio. I think it will revolutionize Ham radio and get many people on SHF bands. Thanks for your video. If ICOM doesn't give you an IC-905 to review, their nuts!
Great info again! Thanks for putting in the work to get us the news!
Excellent Q&A on the IC-905. Great point on the antennas and thank you for the link to your previous videos. We know it will cost some serious money but it will be worth it.
I am so glad to find an Australian ham radio channel. There are many great channels, but they are mostly in the USA. It is difficult with an overseas channel to know what you can and cannot do, because laws and regulations differ between countries.
Nicely done sir. This should clear up a lot of the questions.
Thanks Ray!
There are good questions there, and thanks for the answers Hayden. You are right that we need to experiment with these bands or risk losing them. Icom is making it easier to assemble the gear required.
Great video Hayden! I'll be getting on the wait list to buy one of these for sure!
Thanks Todd 👍
coax seal is your best bet on outdoor connections.
Very excited for this!
I have not seen hard-line like that... it looks like car brake line or pyro in electrical work. You should buy one, you like playing with those crazy frequencies. 👍📡
Haha I need to take another loan out!
Can’t wait to play on rain scatter 10g 😉most often when it’s raining, I get kicked from 160m, so it be nice to pick up the rain scatter ☺️Current specs ??
Very interesting radio Hayden, not sure if it's for me though. Great video, thanks.
Here is the US, 220 and 900 are very popular and ICOM should have added those bands to the US Model.
Exceptional explanation and video! Well done.
I wonder whether the price of the 9700 will drop once the 905 is released. I’d love to get into the higher bands, but if the 905 is super-expensive, I could at least start with the 9700 when I’m ready to get into that part of the spectrum. I already love my 705.
If it say icom it’s gonna cost you if you plan to buy in the first year 😉yea the rig n up to 5.6 will be 2k ball park plus 6-800 for 10g transverter/antenna my best guess 🤔
I use a Aldam Pluto SDR that can Transmit up to 6 GHz, with SDR Angel Software,
will you be doing more videos on dish setups for 2, 5 10ghz
@11:57... not to argue against Icom's decision to limit the RF to 10W, but the PoE limitation should not be the reason. The PoE++ standard can deliver 70W to the load, which, at even poor efficiency, should allow a 25W RF output. The 10W limit is the result of a bottleneck somewhere else... perhaps in the boost converter in the control unit being limited to heat dissipation from the two smallish heat sinks.
In the commercial world, if the outdoor unit (ODU) fills with rainwater, they swap out the ODU... and they chalk that up to an operational cost. For an amateur though, that's $1000 or more to replace the ODU. I don't know how comfortable I am about having that sort of investment sat atop a mast in Ireland's damp, dreary and often frosty or snowy conditions.
I agree that DTV would have been great, but I think ATV is still really cool. Composite video is getting pretty old, but it's also dead simple and there are cheap ways to convert a digital signal.
It also sidesteps a lot of complexity with different DTV standards in different countries (Wikipedia says there are 5 different standards: ATSC in US, DVB-S in Japan/Aus/Eu, etc). Even DVB has DVB-S, S2, T, T2, etc.
There are some 2m/70cm/23cm triplexers on the market (such as the Diamond MX-3000N - TRIPLEXER (2M/70CM/23CM). All seem to be roughly the same construction, so might just be knockoffs of each other. Loss seems a tad high on the 23cm output (0.4dB) on this Diamond model, but otherwise, workable. 55dB isolation.
I’m interested in the specification for 13 cms. It needs to cover 2304 MHz (USA), 2320 MHz (Europe), and 2400 MHz (Japan and QO-100) to be generally useful.
Hayden, while you're on the phone to Icom, ask them about an updated version of the IC-9100 with touch screen colour TFT display... 🙂
It does not say it is full duplex but did you notice the screen shots do show "VFO A". Why would you put that there if there was no VFO B and if there is a VFO B we can only hope it's available for full duplex. Fingers crossed.
Hate to tell you, but VFO A and VFO B don't mean dual receivers. There are a lot of single receivers that have two VFOs, basically just a memory switch.
@@edw297 I understand that but there are radios that do. My Icom IC-9700 being one of them. As I said, fingers crossed. 🙂
G'day Hayden. Grouse video mate. It's been noticed by Icom America. Have you had any success yet from Icom re borrowing one for later this year in Tassie??
Work in progress :)
On SHF does the IC-905 allow broadband speeds like 5G or even 4G, or is it still limited to ham radio's narrowband paradigm?
realistically the only limiting factor on speeds for the higher frequencies is regulation. even on HF we're currently limited by regulation (though hopefully changing soon in the US)
I suspect that this radio with all of the trimmings will be out of reach, cost wise to most Hams
Analog Mode TV is much Easier to Transmit and Received, to Receive all You have to do is a IF tap on Your Receiver,
People need to learn how to weatherproof ports with butyl and electrical tape if they're that worried about RF connections.
i think too many amateurs don't know the danger of high frequency radio. above 2.4GHz you could seriously hurt yourself with power that seems low on lower frequencies. icom wouldn't want people getting hospitalized with their product, so their choice seems decent from that perspective.
Also in Japan, power limit for 2.4 to 24GHz is 2W (unless it's for EME or if for ground to ground you get officials to inspect your whole station's setup) so that is also probably the reason for their choice
I have a 900mhz radio that does 98watts. It fryed electronics in my house!
Hayden. Now that Icom have inspired us with their concept v/u/s PoE transceiver, will we have to wait 1-2 years to see a production unit? Brian G4ETN.
Yeah, the Americas is a "very very small, niche, market"! LOL
I'm not going to spend that much money on a rig that won't do 220. I would have an ic9700 right now if it had 220. Maybe Yaesu will catch a clue. 73.
I figure by the time you've acquired all the necessary items to make the most of this device, you will have spent around $15K.
it’s probably more like $7000 USD or $10,000AUD
Well, great radio but nothing new as far as bands. I disagree with one persons explanation as to why 220 and 902 was not included. Icom 220 radios are selling for more than they did new (IC-375A) and the Alinco DJ-G29's sold out (after the 300+ of them that were locked in a SF warehouse for years were finally released) and if you can find one, they are selling for more than they did new! I already have all these bands but 900, 2.4 and 10G are large and cumbersome and without 220 and 900, it's not worth $5K just for an easier/smaller 10G system tower mounted. I'm sure there are other great remote possibilities, but here in the US. 220 and 902 are widely used and not worth the price for this fine radio without them.
I really cannot see the point of this radio. It is going to be point to point communication, even via a satellite. Any buildings or hills or even wet trees in the way, and you are stuffed, yes OK there will be times when your signal will bounce off an object, and you may hear someone not like of site, but it will not be the norm. I expect there will lots of them for sale on the second hand market after a few years. No, I am not a kill joy, but being realistic.