MHW: Iceborne - Tempered Ruiner Nergigante (TA) / Lance - 4'50"03
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- MR6: Ode to the Destruction
I mainly uploaded this because the other video's quality is potatoes.
Music is Arch Tempered Nergigante Theme【Intense Symphonic Metal Cover】
PS4 Version 12.11
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What if
You wanted to kill a hunter with a pokey stick
But god said
“The skill offensive guard has activated”
Just started using Lance a few days ago and my God it’s fun. Really really enjoying it.
1:22 that clutch claw into dodging spike is SO COOL!
Wow I honestly believed Lance had nothing to offer but this completly proved me wrong!
All wepons offer amazing value on the right hands, that's part of the beauty of mhw
Use to be a greatsword user but converted to lance... I like to tank monsters as well as poke them to death hehehe
@@wakatsik2000 same bro so badass
As with every playstyle, including even the LS, it's not about min max speed, but what *feels* badass, and that's awesome to have diversity over what's best.
Omg the back hop roar invade was like mhmmmm
Very nice. Appreciated how you waited out the offensive guard timings and the spike breaks.
Surprised you have no agitator, but i'm guessing it's because you don't want me to have excuses on why my run was so slow +_+
Also, I just finished farming this quest, and he only gave me 1 GSG per run. I have 30 now. I want to die
I wanted to use Guard 3 to maximize attack somewhat, but I was only able to get a couple of levels of Agitator and ditched it. Ruiner also unenrages 2 times in the fight, so I felt like it wasted time to re-enrage it over and over.
At least you don't have to farm the quest anymore with those 30 GSG's. :0
(Your run was great too! If anything, I'm looking forward for more.)
Mr. Zero is a big fan of KC. And I am a big fan of both of you. : )
My gosh. Watching you two converse in the comments is like seeing the Arnold and Carl handshake meme. Two kings of the lance admiring each other’s skill.
Your positioning is so good!
Very nicely done. I definitely learned a fair bit on positioning while fighting ruiner with lance.
I love my SnS, I enjoy the versatility and agility it gives... but I really want to learn how to use the Lance. You make it look so easy but I'm sure this is the kind of things that look easy because you know what to do. My lance runs are always slow and painful.
In due time, you get used to it like any other weapon. Just give it time, and I'm more than sure that you'll get there!
@@KCGemini Thanks for the encouraging words. I'll keep practicing!
Me knows nothing about lance
1:22 starts flying
I just realized how I never use lance so I tried it out and my god very fun
A true and tested Lance User will bring sure mass destruction.
1:27 i love how you avoided the spikes by using the claw counter! smart af
that's super clean. well played KC!
Ultimate defence with super power, Lance is so fun to use, poor Nergigante cannot do anything!😀
As a lance main, I salute you. I just suck at the game in general, like I could never pull off crap like this
In the end, it's all just practice.
Anything you see here can be done by you if you take the time to hone your skills.
Even I wasn't that good with lancing in MHW before the arrival of Iceborne, but I kept at it until I got where I am now.
You too can do so.
@@KCGemini thanks for the encouragement!
I need to improve my skills that's for sure. Love lance.
Ah yes, the Gentleman's weapon. The Pokey Stick
Hey KC, awesome clear as always! As a fellow lance main I'm always impressed by how much you're miles better than me (guard hopping backwards to block a roar is too next level for me). Some questions about the build, since it's different from the normal one you tend to run:
1. Why crit eye/health regen instead of safi/resentment? I didn't notice you taking huge chunks of damage that would make safi gear too risky, or did I miss something? I did notice you got 5 blasts which probably wouldn't go up with safi gear, but being able to take resentment and ditch levels of crit eye seems pretty big to me.
2. Why no agitator? Unless I'm mistaken with your decoration setup, you had exact room to fit it in over 3 levels of attack boost, 1 level of crit eye, and the fact that you get 4 levels of agitator from the charm instead of 3 levels of peak performance. Do you just not have the peak performance decos, or is there another reason?
3. Although I think I know the answer to this one, I'll ask just to be sure: why the 6 attack awakens instead of 2 sharpness awakens on this build? My guess is that it's hard to keep 20 units of purple against a monster with as terrible hitzones as nergi, but is there another reason?
Awesome run as always, keep up the great work. Nergi is definitely one of the harder fights in the game rn, with maybe only like... rajang being tougher? Idk if you would count tempered rajang as tougher or not.
1. I opted to switch to Guard 3, which made it harder to get some Offensive Guards in due to extra chip damage, and I didn't want to have to take time to heal in case my HP got low enough. The damage between this set and the Safi set used in the last video ended up being very close to each other, and this set is *significantly* safer to use.
2. Peak Performance was easier to utilize due to the pauses in time to re-enrage Ruiner. I ended up not bothering with enraging past the first setup to get the early arm knockdown, as felt like I was wasting too much time trying trying to re-enrage it an extra two times per battle.
3. Yep. It makes it much easier to hit its arms/wings for extra damage/trip potential without the need for worrying about your damage output lowering. Purple kept being inconsistent for me in some of my better runs.
For the last question, I'd say the toughest monster to be consistent at currently would be Tempered Lunastra; but she's more or less about playing super patient and not taking your turn out of order. Sometimes I'm not good at that, haha.
@@KCGemini Yeah the second question is absolutely my bad. I thought you could fit in both agitator 5 and peak 3, but I didn't know that there's no peak performance + deco. Without that, you can't fit both in.
Based on this run alone, agitator 3 would have been better than the extra 3 levels of attack boost (and you do have room to fit it in), but I'm guessing that on many of your previous runs that wasn't the case, and consistency is important for things like this. I think that's also true for the other two points: this run of yours was so incredibly clean that I'm pretty sure you could have gone with purple sharpness and the safi set bonus and been fine, but I can see how that's incredibly risky when you do anything but absolutely perfect gameplay.
@@SheffiTB You can get Agitator 4 + Peak Performance 3, but that means that Critical Eye/Attack Boost will only reach +6/+4. That ends up being 97% affinity when Ruiner is enraged, but you could augment for affinity and lower your attack somewhat. Jewel wise, you can't get more than Agitator 2 without using the charm or not maxing out Peak Performance.
I'm definitely going to go with purple sharpness if I do this again. I like Safi's armor set better, but Guard 3's stamina increase can make procc'ing Offensive Guard and certain bad RNG patterns quite deadly.
@@KCGemini I'm confused. Wouldn't this build be able to straight up replace 3 attack boost with 3 agitator by replacing one guardian/attack with a guardian/expert, two attack jewels with an ironwall jewel and an agitator jewel (one of the attack jewels is on a 3 slot), and an ironwall/expert jewel with an agitator+ jewel?
If you play as cleanly as you did in this video (which, granted, is nowhere near easy, given that any normal human being wouldn't be able to) you'd only have agitator down for about 40 seconds total, which still puts your average EFR above that of the extra 3 attack boost jewels while giving you an extra 7% overcapped affinity for hitting arms for knockdowns.
Bear in mind that I am absolutely nitpicking, but I love theorycrafting and watching a player as good as you execute it actually makes theorycrafted builds come to life (which they do not do when I play them). That's why I'm so excited about getting the build perfect.
@@SheffiTB You're right. I couldn't figure out why I couldn't do it until I realized that I don't have a Challenger+ 4 jewel.
Welp, that's another thing to grind for besides the coveted Handicraft+ 4 jewel; although the longer the game goes on, the less that I see Handicraft+ 4 having any use. Not that I'm complaining about it, haha.
wow what an awesome run! new lance user and learned a lot from your videos, got a few questions
1. Does advancing guard cover the facing direction or moving direction? what to followup after it?
2. When to use block counter vs reguar block?
3. Is L2 (guard shot)and power guard useful at all?
1. The direction you're facing. It can be followed up with a shield attack, leaping thrust, or a hop.
2. Typically, you always want to use counters, but there are instances where normal blocking can come in handy, such as adjusting your aim with more breathing room.
3. Power Guard is super useful, as it gives you 360 degrees of blocking, as well as a higher stability level for guard. (An attack that may have staggered with Guard 1/3/5 may have none at all with Power Guarding.)
Guard shot is actually quite useful when used with good slinger ammo such as Bomb Pods and Crystalburst.
@@KCGemini Thanks dude! After watching several your runs I am getting more offensive guard procs with advancing dash:)
Ruiner Nergigante: THIS IS MY TEMPERED FORM,,, BE READY TO DIE, PEASANT!!!
KCGemini : Souka (in Saitama's voice)
-Poke it until dead-
you are a lance god. I thought I was good but holy shit
I wouldn't say a god, but I do appreciate the kind words.
It's all just practice in the end. If you need any tips, just let me know.
Sorry for the noob question but you can dodge the roar with a side/backhop? Or is it a skill? Great video btw!
You can do so due to both of those movements starting with i-frames. Evade Window and the Evasion Mantle help if you have trouble with default i-frames.
@@KCGemini I see thank you, so you did all those just with the default i-fraimes?? That's badass...
Alt title
Man shlapps dragon boi with a long stick
Very Nice 🙏Lance is epic 👌
I LOVE BLAST LANCE
"Poke your way to victory"
Hey man i did my 13th ruiner and trying to ta this guy, i follow your move (not all and i was getting hit sometimes) and got 7 min ++ kinda happy about it. I read it in comment why you didnt use agitator and yeah i lost crit from agitator 7 for long time. I was so happy about my archievement and kinda want to share with u
Awww yea. That's a fine time!
Agitator is kinda odd with Nergigante due to its short rage periods, but the spikes sort of make up for it.
Hey man, what do you think about The Gameconomist’s video about Lance being a bad defensive weapon. Wanna know your thoughts as a Lance main
The lance's best capabilities work by the motto "your best offense is a good defense".
It sounds like the problem with the weapon is more on his end as the lance excels as a defensive weapon.
@@KCGemini
The lance excels as an offensive weapon IMO
I did a dodger set with lance and was pretty good without shield most of the time (dodger set was originally meant for the bow (I replaced constitution for defense boost and guard)
Happy for you.
Play lance like hundred of hour but I still couldn't get rid of my bad habit of mashing button. Really need to step up my lance play and be more offensive and dodge more.
The best way to drop button mashing is to observe monster attack patterns. Lance works best when you're in sync with the monster's moves and have an idea on how to react or counter to what they're doing.
Too clean.
First and clean run
Holy crap. Did you actually guard dash to the side to avoid the spike blast? How'd you do that? What's the timing?
After certain attacks (such as your basic lance thrust), Advancing Guard can be used sideways and even backwards while you're facing your target by moving in said direction.
@@KCGemini Huh. I've gotten super lucky a few times and managed to pull it off by accident, but I didn't know you could do it on purpose. I use lance, but I'm nowhere near THAT good with it. Can you possibly show the timing on that?
@@affablesage9582 Well, 3:44 to 3:49 is two Advancing Guards that I used by swinging the lance once and then chaining it into AG.
To explain what happened:
* I do two lance thrusts, and then did Advancing Guard to the side when I noticed his claw attack about to hit me.
* I noticed a pause in said claw attack, and this pause warns you that the next attack that it'll do is the pepega slam.
* At nearly the last moment, I return to neutral stance and do a upward counter. The pepega slam consists of both the slam and the spikes shooting afterwards after a brief pause. During said upswing, I use that to do another Advancing Guard to the side in order to block the spikes.
The timing is something you have to practice yourself to get a hang of. Try it in the Training Area by just doing a lance thrust either neutrally or upwards and then inputting Advancing Guard. Then after that, input Advancing Guard by tilting your stick backwards or sideways to do what I did in the video.
Question regarding the sidestep block at 1:10. Does that guard happen automatically with the sidestep, or was it a specific command to do a guard-sidestep?
I did Advancing Guard to the side, then I followed it up with a side hop.
@@KCGemini Holy shit I didn't know you could advancing guard to the side. This changes everything.
Amazing run! With more than 2400 hours on Mh4u and almost 300 on Mhwi I'm not even near as good as you are but... Some day 😁
Stay motivated, and you got it!
@@KCGemini Thanks! :)
Hey KC, I'm new lance user. How to do some side step block like you did in 1:12 ? Thanks a lot!
After certain attacks, press the L stick either left or right + △ + R2.
@@KCGemini wow that's really new for me, would be really helpful for positioning. Thanks! Subscribed!
how tf did he do that he continuosly thrusting also can guard at the same time?BS
Except for specific attacks, like the shield poke, lance users constantly alternate between offense and defense. Lots of timing and practice just make it *seem* like I'm continually attacking and guarding simultaneously, but lance would be broken if it worked that way.
1:20 🔥🔥🔥
What...I never knew you can sidestep while guard
You can also use Advancing Guard while going backwards after a regular attack.
People must be new to Lance... Great for defense and great for getting rid of monsters in sub 5 minutes 😶
Mileage may vary.
@@KCGemini
Pray to RNGesus
and ffs get the telegraphs right
sometimes i get the telegraphs off and dash too quickly or parry too quickly
poke poke poke poke
Seems fitting since I'm more or less going against a giant porcupine.
How does his dive bomb works? (where he goes down)
If you mean the Pepaga Slam, then that is done whenever Ruiner adds a slight pause after a claw attack or when it is idling.
If you mean the roar + jumping slam, then the order it does those attacks depends on which parts have black spikes:
- If the forelimbs have black spikes, then it'll roar, then it'll jump and slam said arm down.
- If the wings have black spikes, the screen will pan back when it roars, and then it'll dive with a lot more power. Said roar has a longer recovery window, so it's easier to react to.
How do you regenerate life by attacking?
Health augment on my weapon.
forgot to ask, how do you get the music in the game?
I play with the BGM off and add something when I render the completed video.
@@KCGemini I Wish there was a mod to change the music of the game :( Then I could give Vaal Hazak a proper theme and fix the coral highlands soundtrack
Why you don't customize safi weapon to purple sharpness?
While I was doing runs, I'd often run out of purple. I've since gotten better at the fight to the point where I would run purple if I do this again.
It’s so blurry on my phone screen; about how much damage per normal O poke?
Depends on spikes + tenderize and whether the horns are hit or not. Horns are in parenthesis.
No spikes: (106) 119
White spikes: (151) 167
KCGemini I’ve been following your incredible speed runs are noticed you go back and forth between Safi and Raging Braci. You’ve had great success with both; which would you say is the stronger build? I was going to say Valkhana?
@@jacobpfannenstiel792 It depends on the monster.
Safi's weapons are generally better with Resentment if you're running Dragonvein Awakening; and that pairs well with chip damage and/or HP drain as you'll have no downtime in damage.
For the Lightbreak Lance, it pairs well with Agitator 7 and Peak Performance for a little extra DPS if you're not constantly getting chipped. You can also throw in Safi's other lances as another option here.
KCGemini fantastic! Thank you!
So more than guard 3 is useless with lance?
Guard 5 helps a few attacks not have knockback, but it's doable without it.
@@KCGemini ok thanks you
woah! May I know the awakened abilities?
Attack VI and Attack V x4
how is he using the flinch shot without slinger ammo? im new
I don't use it. Flinch shot is banned under TA rules.
I'm clutch claw slapping the monster three times to automatically enrage it.
@@KCGemini and what are you finishing it off with? it kinda like some finishing moves but idk what
@@gahrdz It's the tenderize attack, which softens the targeted hitzone. Every weapon has one specific to it.
@@KCGemini how you do it?
@@gahrdz When mounted with the clutch claw, press △.
I can't do less than 12 minutes O.O
Lance doesn’t seem like it hits that hard
The weapon has always been about merging defense and offensive capabilities seamlessly - as a result, it's far from the strongest weapon in the game.
Regardless, you may like its playstyle if you give it a chance.
Awesome run! I'm new to to lance and was wondering why you hopped instead of quick counter @ 3:45?
Actually, that was an Advancing Guard to the side.
I did it because I noticed that Ruiner paused slightly while doing that claw attack.
A pause after a claw attack is always going to end in a Pepega Slam afterwards; which would have messed up my position at the time.
@@KCGemini Damn, that is some 200 IQ stuff haha. Thank you!
Lance = Easy as fuck if you know how to fight
Also: intense symphonic in the BG?
That is said music, yes.
I usually link whatever song that plays in the description.