Installing Linux Mandrake 7.0
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- Here I become overwhelmed by the insanity of late 90's linux and become sidetracked trying to do one thing for an hour. WHY ARE THERE SO MANY PACKAGES. I seriously couldn't find all the apps it said it had. Never trust the hellish. This is why I never do linux videos =C
The GNOME help browser sure looked like a web browser and probably would work as one, but I didn't have internet working to use it anyway.
List of things supposedly included with Mandrake that I forgot/ran out of time to Cover:
-FreeDos Emulator
-WINE
-VNC viewer
-Basilisk II
-Working web browser?
-All the included desktop environments
-All the games from all the respective window environments.
-Dvd player?
-All the misc Linux utilities and apps like like TeX,Emacs, gimp and gedit.
-The enlightenment apps
-The fractal generator
-the KDE task manager
-Minecraft??
Every time I use this OS I physically get a headache.
Let me know if it's boring!
"I'd like to thank my gf for 10 years of FRIENDSHIP"
Hes closer to his Wife boyfriend thats why
@@Vienna3080 ooooof rip
"puhleez, put da penguin floppy into the computer!"
for some reason that made me laugh
"BitchX"
~ Druaga 2016 ~
2000: year of the linux desktop
oh god, the time when every single year was supposedly "the year of the linux desktop"...
@Abstractism mate, you can add repos through synaptic/muon. have you used linux?
@Abstractism : Manjaro KDE spin. It's easy to setup, easy to maintain, it never goes out of date (rolling release), the repos are top notch, it supports most non-free hardware without making you jump through hoops (nvidia for instance). And if for some reason you need something that's not in the official branch, you have access to AUR at the flip of a switch in Octopi (graphical frontend to pacman the package manager) nad 3rd party packages are treated as native thereafter. You also have a Steam client for games.
Now if it's still not enough and you want to take your risks, you can always copy your tarball to /usr/share and make your build "the old way". Installing unsupported software was never easy on any other platform I can think of, why would it be on Linux ?
@Abstractism : I don't know about Ubuntu, but everything from arch and AUR which amounts already to a lot.
@Abstractism : Glad you like it. You can update whenever prompted by Octopi, but to avoid snafus(*), instead you can switch to the console (ctrl+alt+F2), log as root, and issue 2 commands once a week :
# pacman -Syyuu
# pacman -Scc
This will keep your Manjaro in shape and running forever.
(*) updating MesaGL while running X window has always been dangerous for instance. There are other pitfalls.
"I guess mine wasn't beige enough"
well said, well said.
I guess mine wasn’t beige enough
Druaga 2016
3 Years later.....
Thank God that Linux today has become so much easier to install and use
Mac's were easier to use back in the 90's, but for some reason Windows was more popular.
Yea...sure if you're into that
Arch?
No only is way easier, way faster and far less intrusive, not the enemy within.
@@zordanxxx all false
@@mr.smash698 pcs were cheaper, available in all countries, had more games and productivity software
"BitchX", awesome name
My father is a huge tech guy... he never talks when he does installs and things like this... I imagine that Druaga's videos are a glimpse into my fathers mind.
Ok Im Calling It, Linux Mandrake On An SSD. Will Be The Next Video.
3 hour long video trying to instal arch linux on an SSD but thats a long shot
Arch is love Arch is life.
linux mint is love linux mint is life.
imo.
#ArchMasterRace
*****
#MintMasterRace
Fortran is actually still pretty common in the high-performance scientific computing community, which also has a love affair with Linux in general. My department head told me he was using an install of Red Hat from around '99 in 2013, coding all his quantum chemistry sims in Fortran 77. Old habits die hard.
excuse me what
Quantum chemistry... One must have more faith to believe in such things than to believe in Dog... I don't believe in neither. I believe in the Sun because I can see it and feel it.
@@FeelingShred good for you.
oh god, linux was just chaotic for anyone who didn't know what they were doing back then.
I never knew what a desktop environment was until Ubuntu made an appearance in my life
It still is. I've been using Linux since 1997 but it's still not intuitive. Every time there's a system upgrade my graphics driver fails and needs to recompile kernel modules. *Not intuitive*. Support for various file formats is dependent on whether the company supports it or there is some reverse engineering going on. *Not intuitive*.
Granted it was a nightmare, but it has improved a lot. Even if you are right, I'm not not installing windows again. For what I do, it is adecuate, I have issues but not as many as with M$.
Good thing that anyone who wants to feel that hell again can just go and try Arch or Gentoo
That being said #GentooIsTheKING
You can have too much ram, but not too much deditated wam.
weed access memory? xD
wam
LOL
+Nils Pc Vids nice
I think he meant detonated cam
Playing mp3s on Linux distros from this era was difficult because mp3 is a patent encumbered format. It was often recommended to encode audio into the mp2 format instead. Also, that 2.2 kernel......
Xubuntu, Puppy and Manjaro were the only ones who could play mp3 from first boot. And this was 2016. The nonsense still exists but it's up for people to make their choices.
Every week: DRUGA MADE A VIDEO! FUCK YES!
Accurate.
Agreed
"weed"
Indeed
+S “xshot” Stewart yes we cannabis!
+Moldy Croissant agweed
Its not a Druaga1 Video wihout things that go wrong :)
And wihout Realy Loud hard drives :P
And weeeeeeeeeeeeeed
+dm4uz3 Yea :W
And SSDs
+KrazyKube Gaming XD I upgraded yesterday to an SSD :)
lol 26:59 "xbill" "Stop Bill from loading his OS into all the computers"
shlonglongable
I love Linux Easter eggs.
The MP3 format has changed somewhat over the years. It would probably play a circa 2000 MP3 just fine.
Darude-Sandstorm.mp3
Choose install.........."weeeed"
Please never stop making videos, you are a highlight of my life.
20:02 Mandrake comes preloaded with FreeCiv, thus making it the superior choice in operating system
This brings back so many good memories. Back then GNOME was so beautiful. I started using Debian in 2003 but I think Mandrake came very close of being the perfect Linux Desktop experience.
wow. Old Linux is the shit. Feels so much more modern than Windows of it day
Don't worry Druaga you still do things you promise faster than Valve Software
Not to mention he can count to 3
Holy crap the manual was done up in TeX. I love it.
Good reminder of how far advanced the linux distros were. I remember linux cds were bootable more than a year before Windows 98 se came out.
I love these hour long videos! It's such a nice thing to watch. For some reason Druaga makes me happy that I chose CS as my major.
Hah! Think I know exactly why your MIDIs wouldn't play. I also have an old ES 1371 card, and went through a lot of trouble trying to get it to play them. I used it in Linux Mint and got it to play everything except MIDI. Even tried it under Windows XP, with the card's official XP driver, and again it worked with everything BUT MIDIs-the one thing I wanted it for! It can still play MIDIs fine in my old Windows 98 PC though, so it seems it's MIDI synthesizer just refuses to run under anything that's not Windows 9x.
As for the other formats not playing, I can only guess either Mandrake didn't come with codecs or else the files you were trying to play needed much newer ones.
Well..... shit
+Druaga1 its time for a redo
You might be able to get the MIDI files to play with TiMidity. TiMidity is a software synthesizer, meaning that it takes the MIDI and converts it into audio on the fly, rather than allowing the sound card to do the work.
Linux has been shoddy with MIDI for a long time and still is it has no software synth
i havent managed to get it working im an arch user then agin i dont have the best hardware
That was one of the interesting things about these old boxed Linux distros. Downloading and installing software after the initial install was a nightmare so they literally threw everything and the kitchen sink on the CD. A distro was only good if it had the software you liked ... so they put them all in there to catch everyone's preference.
Back in those days, Windows had the advantage for software because you could just download (or buy and bring home) a nifty little installer package and use the install wizard. Linux had repositories, but package managers didn't do dependency resolution so if you tried to install a piece of software it would tell you its dependencies and you would have to install each of them yourself. During that process, if any of those packages had dependencies you would have to dive down that rabbit hole for each of them, and so on and so forth. This made installing software a terrible time-consuming experience. For the average user if it didn't come pre-installed you probably weren't going to get it to work before you rage quit and put Windows back on ... so they pre-installed everything they could find. The distro basically WAS the repo on a CD (or two).
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...What’s wrong with that?
That someone who disliked the video in that moment didn't even watched the video. Just clicked and disliked
The first distro of Linux I ever got was Mandrake 8.0. I still had dialup, and I got someone from a message board to mail me physical copies on 3 CDs. What a time to be alive.
Anyone remember Lindows? Or, my personal least favorite version of Linux, Element OS (not to be confused with Elementary OS).
I might make a second channel called BitchX
I know it's on but it sounds like it's dying
I laughed so hard when he pressed Ok at 18:16 without mounting the other partitions :D
He does have some disturbing gaps in his knowledge. :D
It's pretty much a miracle anything worked at all :D
dp vn03 how is anyone supposed to know to do this stuff when the user interface doesn't make any effort whatsoever to tell you what to do
Even for me that am using Linux for more than a year, that partition section of the installer looked confusing as fuck. One rhing that Linux didn't quite grasp yet is installers. For me it doesn't matter because I run a live system from a custom ISO I made, no installer nonsense.
@@fursmut There was three manuals with the starting up guide explaining partitioning. Back then it was expected to read the manual.
Lniux desktops circa 1999 were horrible. Some of them had some decent setups, but I remember Mandrake being bad, and this just made me laugh as I know your pain.
Commandline was pretty good though, and worked well.
However, there were a lot of distro's back then that actually were good, and did work, unfortunately you needed to know a few things about Linux to get things to work.
Good luck!
Do you have examples of good distros from back then? As a more recent believer myself, one that truly impressed me was Puppy Linux
Don't judge Linux by an installer from the 90's...
I think Vista is way better :D
That's saying a lot lol
to that guy who's commenting vista is better then this
vista came out in 2007-2008ish
this is a fucking y2k product
*****
Thats true
***** $100+ for a bug patch? What a steal! /s
i love how linux from the 90s has workspaces and pin to top and windows 10 only now barely integrated workspaces, and still doesn't have always on top.
TheVampkid And Microsoft marketed it as a brand new innovation they came up with too... xD
This takes me back to 97/98... My friend Jason got his copy at Software ETC. We went back and forth playing with it. Fun stuff. My other tech friend, Larry ,was a playing with Red Hat Linux 4.2 at the time. Larry died his Junior year (my Senior years were 1999/2000), they didn't catch his Leukemia until it was too late. He was having nose bleeds for no reason for 6 months, on the way to the children's hospital for a follow-up, he took a nap, and never woke up again :( It's been 17 years.
AWWW sorry for your loss
Reminds me of when my GameCube died. Once I unplugged it to get it to my friend's house. It never powered up again. One capacitor blew and I never caught on to it until the acid burned the PCB and the thing died.
In subbed because you're cute
Just found your channel and really enjoying your content. I had this same version of Linux. I was so excited to install it when I got home from the store, then I discovered that the vast majority of my hardware was completely incompatible with it. 🤣 I fought a valiant struggle for three days trying to get basic things such as my sound, printer, and scanner to work, before admitting defeat and re-installing Windows 2000 at the time.
I enjoyed this familiar trip down memory lane.
I have memories of my dad who installed mandrake dual boot on our yellowing plastic xp pc. it came with all those cool linux games. i grew up on those :D
I could never make a channel like yours Druaga. Because whenever I do something, it usually works the first time :P
MP3's were encoded a bit different back then... So my guess is...That MP3 file was a bit too modern...
I have 8.0 box set I bought at Walmart when it came out. It started my exodus from MS. Been Winblows free 10 years or so. This video really takes me back.
Mandrake was the first Linux os i ever installed. Greatest review ever!
I almost forgot that XFCE is over 20 years old. Still the best DE for Linux!
Pair it with Manjaro and you have a true beauty!
Xfce mustard race
If Cinnamon didn't exist I'd agree
Patheon ftw
XFCE Its my Main DE Wiht a lot of customization for already 4 years #Ditch Gnome,Unity,KDE
how cone everything that could go wrong, does?
38:36 I like how Inky is green in this version of Pac Man despite him actually being light blue.
Well i was gonna to bed but fuck it!
me too
Yeah.
Already fucking it in my bed.
Have you gone to bed yet?
It looks incredibly non-user friendly, but you must remember that Linux has come a very long way in terms of user friendliness since the 2000s. While I don't have Linux installed on my main computer, I do have Linux Mint Cinnamon installed on an old Dell PC I still own, and it's incredibly easy to use!
Great video though! :D
Puppy Linux too, very low spec friendly and portable across different machines.
I'm just putting this out there, I am thankful I found your channel. Each week I look forward to these types of videos that no other channel makes. Thanks so much Druaga!
Brings back memory's from childhood I had a desktop running this version of mandrake
Ahhh, Computer Modern. I don't think I'll ever be able to forget this font.
Never trust revenants armed with Westinghouse M-27 phased plasma pulse rifles in the 40 watt range.
I spent weeks back in 1998 or so trying to install Mandrake on my AMD-K6 machine with a 2 GB hard drive and 32 MB of RAM. Having a whole gig of RAM to work with would have been luxury above imagining.
Man I wish I could chill with you IRL doing shit like this all day man, Love the videos its a good waste of time of trial and error everyone can learn from you :)
"BitchX"
xD I died...
MIDI won't work without extra software, because that sound card doesn't really have any MIDI functions built in. It's like how in Windows it uses the Microsoft GS Wavetable (That's the Windows extra software)..
90's Linux: Still easier than Windows 8.
And that is an exaggeration.
Wow. Understanding a root partition is hard?Mind = blown
Great videos. Looking forward to the next 420 videos
The Linux kernel supports USB Mass Storage class since version 2.4. Mandrake 7.0 comes with kernel 2.2 and that's why you can't plug a USB pen drive and expect it to work.
Super quick guide:
hdX is a physical hard drive (hda, hdb, hdc...)
hdaY is a partition of the disk 'a' (hda1, hda2, etc...)
OSX uses "disk0s1" for disk #0 partition #1
Debian uses sda1 for disk #a partition #1
It also helps it mount your partitions before the install. ;) Maybe he will realize it, idk yet :)
LOL...this is memory lane. I remember buying this exact package back in the day. Windowmaker was rad as fuck, slim, and lot more stable than Gnome / KDE. I ran this mess on a AMD k6-2 450mhz I found in the mud at the dump. Good times.....but linux has come a LOOOOONG way. Thanks for the great videos and LULz
I like your style. Your videos come across as an early SNL film.
You have two media programs open at the same time, which are probably fighting over the sequencer.
I remember when I was a teen I would always messing up the partitions with mandrake. 😅
That Linux manual, though. Much better than the thin piece of paper printed at someone's house when you get a new computer these days.
Remember this distribution, got the cd in a magazine, in those days it was a nightmare to get some usb peripherals to work, I also had one of those cheapo winmodems that basically couldn't work in a Linux environment (the one I had a t least), it was an interesting introduction to Linux but a very short lived experience.
I think this was my first foray into linux when I was a teenager. I didn't even knew what I was doing but somehow I loved it!
You don't get native mp3 playback on most Linux distros due to licensing, basically mp3 is a none free codec and most Linux distros are none profit and can't afford the costs involved in buying a volume licensing agreement to include it.
You usually have to install the codec separately via the none-free/proprietary ppa's, but almost all distros include a mp3 capable player regardless.
Also IMHO, any Linux distro pre Ubuntu 9.xx is shite and even that wasn't great either.
Robinthefox88 Ubuntu 9x was a still a long time ago, considering the technology that has become comment place from 2010 onwards so it still isn't really fair to judge an OS from 2009
oliver baker oliver baker To be fair, in 2009 we had Windows 7,and for all its faults, it was and still is, a solid OS, so to say that Ubuntu 9.xx shouldn't be judged in the way a modern OS is, is wrong.
Don't get me wrong though Ubuntu 10.10 was awesome, rock solid and easy to use, and a huge improvement over everything before it imo.
I've switched to using Ubuntu MATE 16.04 full time btw, and I love it, so I'm not a Linux hater, but I don't have rose tinted specs for Linux pre 2010 either.
Robinthefox88 Totally fair. I used to use Ubuntu 9.10. Absolute junk by today's standards whereas Windows 7 is probably still the best Windows release to date (since its release. Hasn't been beaten by 8, 8.1 or 10 is what I mean).
I had to switch to Linux in 2016 due to not having hard disk (happy accident as time proved) In short, after intense distro hopping, the only ones who played mp3 on first boot were Xubuntu 16.04, Puppy and Manjaro. The stock Ubuntu didn't even come with lm-sensors installed. Very telling... One of the reasons I chose Xubuntu.
I'm really surprised you had the patience with Mandrake. Whenever you wanted to install a new 'package' (app) you needed to tell it what you wanted it to be compatible with, because it compiled everything on your computer, instead of downloading a binary package that would just work on your computer. Even then, the compiled package wouldn't work!
I fell asleep to this last night in bed, you're voice was like a lullaby as a I slipped into unconsciousness.
I guess this "tech" channel is too advanced to know what a codec is and how to install them. Genius.
Jeff Evanson And drivers too for that matter. xD
Hey Druaga1, would you ever do a video about the Commodore Amiga? Would be great seeing you goofing around with it...
btw back in the day, gnome was a file manager only, not a window manager. Enlightenment was a window manager with no file manager so i guess they combined pretty well without conflict. I actually miss that because i always felt enlightenment was the perfect window manager. It's still my favorite today
Oh yes, I remember this distro! Great times... not a great distro, though :) Linux became much more stable since then.
It's so aggravating watching someone play around with Linux who has no idea how Linux works.
Go watch akbkuku then
You are not being far here. What the video shows is the linux as experienced in those days. Today, you get your hands in something like Xubuntu 16.04 or Puppy Linux, it's radically different, everything is hand out to you. Let's not spread misinfo.
Best way to learn something new is to fumble around it and learn along the way...
Especially when they totally ignore the manual.
It's so aggravating watching someone claiming they know how GNU/Linux works when they don't even call it GNU/Linux
Cmon man, how do you not know what the awesome IceWM is, it's my favrouite window manager of all time, with Blackbox at a close second.
I love how Mandrake and old versions of Red Hat actually *COME* with *SOFTWARE* from the beginning, and a beefy chunk of software at that.
Nowadays, Linux distros don't come with a damn thing, and it takes forever to grab all the packages from either the internet or cd-rom. Half the time these days though, there's barely anything on the cd-rom at all. I love the internet, but I don't want to be force to install all my stuff from it.
According to the install window, Basilisk 2 is a network module
Omg!!! I remember this is the first Linux distro I've ever installed on my computer back I was in elementary school! It came with the CHIP magazine, however my mother was really pissed off because I erased the whole disk.
Chances are the Audio card wasn't fully configured. The Network card won't do anything until it's been setup (tell it to use DHCP, etc...). Most of those apps you were trying to use were in the KDE section and you were in Gnome, I'm surprised they even worked at all. It's pronounced nome, the G is silent. Genome is a different word entirely. Put the RAM back in, it may help with performance. Try setting the BIOS to "Other", the Win95/Win98 settings may be limiting RAM or other internal things that may make Linux run poorly.
PLEASE, don't judge Linux by a 16 year old version, it's come an incredibly long way since then; try a modern, popular, distro like Ubuntu or Fedora for a better feel. I know I was definitely not a fan until I took a Linux Fundamentals class on a whim, now I love it! I would highly recommend an intro class or even just watching some tutorials or reading a book and following along. It's actually far less complicated than it seems, believe me.
I feel like he would have been able to run Mandrake Linux a lot better if he had a bit better hardware. I know the K-6 was on the requirement list of hardware BUT I feel like he should have kept the amount of RAM on the computer that he started out with, and even if it could not read ALL OF IT it still would have utilized all of what it could.
Other than that, Mandrake Linux really had a lot of potential in this video. I would totally LOVE to see this again, maybe on newer period correct hardware.
This brings back memories, Mandrake 7 was the first OS on my first computer of my own (and therefore not a family PC). I still use GNU/Linux as my main OS, although I customize all of my installs, and compile my own kernels. Also Steam has pushed more games to Linux (SteamOS is a Linux distro, so any game that has been released on it works natively on Linux as well).
Druaga should film a video with his reaction to Puppy Linux for something radically different from this video.
9:05 Did your set the master/slave/primary/secondary headers to cable select?
You should try installing Arch Linux lol. This will get you a headache, :P
Install Gentoo! I've only done it once, and compiling everything killed the hard drive.
arch is easy he should do LFS
For real, Arch is a walk in the park compared to distros like Gentoo, Slackware, or LFS
+74ryanwolf slackware is more easy to install
FireShootSK Annoying to get a system that's worth using tho, like installing software
Very nostalgic and trip down memory lane, reminding me of my early journey into Linux (which started with Red Hat 5. Saved me having to install the thing again in Virtualbox!
I think this was the Linux my stepdad had a copy of. I remember fooling with it a bit as a kid on a Pentium MMX PC, some years later reminded him about it, he said it was Mandrake. I couldn't get video drivers working right on it so the display looked all glitched out. He never had any luck with it either apparently from what he said.
Also your problem with rebooting causing the optical drive to mysteriously disappear brings back some bad memories of a Compaq Presario S4000NX that was my main computer from like 2007-2011 or something like that. I remember it sometimes appearing but with a glitched device name, calling itself a DVT-RAM drive instead of a DVD-RAM drive, and it still wouldn't work. Getting the drive to work was a miracle. Having to reformat ever was a nightmare come true. Never figured out what was causing it. It happened with multiple drives too. Faulty or incorrect IDE cable perhaps? Who knows.
It's so entertaining seeing Druaga using an ancient version of Linux! And the way he pronounces Gnome like G-nome is funny
Nice terminator gun on your Revenant!
Back then they didn't ship the encoder/decoders, they were proprietary and you had to search the dark web for then. Now is just a simple check box to enable them on OS install
I remember how long it used to take to format huge partitions. Just didn't wait long enough maybe? This video has been great memory trip for me, I had a boxed Mandrake like this - might even have been this version. Cool stuff :)
hay druga1 are these vintage specs good?
AMD K6 400
128MB of RAM
3Dfx voodoo 3 2000
must run CPU-Z to know what mboard is in it will reply with it in a minute
You can forcefully switch to TTY1 by pressing Ctrl-Alt-F1 and do a graceful shutdown using that console.
THIS OS LOOKS AMAZING for the 90s also please do a follow up video where you check out every desktop enviroment
Red Hat distro from the '90's? Welcome to RPM HELL!!!
Actually, there was probably a licensing issue with the mp3 decoders. They've only very recently become free to distribute, so the decoder probably wasn't included with the distro.
raydeen2k I'm fairly sure they're still not distributed with Linux ISO's. Although I've been using Arch for a few years now, so I wouldn't know as it doesn't come with anything beyond core functionality. xD
Linux today is actually less complicated with the install clients and they are getting simpler to use, it's actually surprising to be honest.
Being someone who has used Linux since 2001 this video is just a hilarious look into how a normal user coming from windows is completely lost. The newer distros are very much easier to install these days but back then you had to have some info on how partitions worked and how they are setup in that OS. That manual and install guide make me cringe tho.... even Arch linux today is easier to follow the guide and is probably much smaller, and that one is considered to be the "hard" distro to use.
Builtin drivers is what makes I like linux. It even makes brightness control key combination on my laptop work without installing anything manually.(It didn't worked on Windows 10. I didn't even know if driver is available for Windows 10.)
I don't even need time for installing driver for new hardware. Plug in, and it works.
But unfortunatly, I had to download driver manually for my GTX 970 for gaming. Otherwise Minecraft runs in 5 FPS which is terrible.
On Xubuntu 16.04 the drivers for my Radeon came by default, maybe test that one out and become a believer too xDDDD
I died at 9:34 . Druaga sure knows how to rate a CD-ROM lol
Funny when you started waving the ''sacred chicken'' to the computer gods at 16:48 ... This always happens. You have to sacrifice something to the Gods in these circumstances. So many partition backup restore fails in my time... after half a day, end up reverting back to DOS in agonizing stages and then failing. :-) BTW Druaga, you failed to notice the sliver of a initial remaining partition on your 1st try. You deleted that partition and it toked right in there on the 2nd try.
Mandrake was my first exposure to Linux, and the reason I didn't try another distro until Ubuntu 14 or so. It really was the wild west before we got good open source drivers, package managers like apt, and persistent internet connections. Now I use Debian on my NAS and Mint for more general tasks.
Still have to primarily use Windows, mostly because of games and multimedia, and that things tend to work correctly the first time when people are paid to write the software.
Mandrake 6.0 was my first linux distro in roughly '98. Loved it. Good times.