Evolve (Alpha First impressions) - Worth a buy?
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- Evolve Alpha Worth a Buy?
In a savage world of man vs nature, are you the hunter or the hunted? The creators of Left 4 Dead, Turtle Rock Studios, bring you Evolve, the next-generation of multiplayer shooters where four hunters face-off against a single, player-controlled monster.
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FYI it's dark because the game is pretty dark, also Dxtory tends to drop the brightness. Also it was laggy but not internet lag, it was FPS lag, I had everything on max on an intel i7 4.3 8gig ram and a GTX 770 (2gig) it ran ok but not great, sometime you will see jerkiness. Oh and yes you can remap the controls.
AMD 8350FX, GTX760, 32GB ram with everything on max. No jerkiness whatsoever even when I use Bandicam to record. I had to turn the graphics on low with the previous alpha but it performed much better this time around. Not sure why Mack's system struggles with it..
I usually agree with most of what you say however, I think you're completely wrong about this game. IMO this game is absolutely amazing and I can't wait for it.
Well. They are only showing one game mode. We don't know how many different options we will have for the final game yet, plus there are 2 more monsters and several more hunters to be revealed. I've been watching every video I can find on the game and I'm still not bored of it. I find it extremely entertaining to watch.
***** please provide me the info your getting regarding pricing. TRS has not announce pricing for DLC, so do you have a source?
Get a new videocard mate. Get the GTX 970.
Mack, will you do a WAB on Call of Duty Advanced Cashgrab?
About to begin playing it now as it's just finished installing :o
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well, it seems i could use a bit of that, how about i be your mr 20%
Worth A Buy
Be strong Mack
Worth A Buy
Please put up the WAB video for Call of Duty: AW asap! I am really on the fence for this one. Been hearing some positive things about it so far but I'll wait for your WAB video as I want to hear your unbiased opinion.
Is it just me or for the past few years we had an influx of games that were supposed to be awesome be totally shit, lately, let's see , Evil Within, Beyond and now Evolve is shit, I thought that as the income of the gaming industry grows the game would get better, not worse.
Games have fallen into almost the exact same situation movies have. There will be a handful of AAA games a year that are good (big hopes for the Witcher 3 here too), the rest will just be generic crap we've all seen before. Really, my best gaming experiences lately have all been coming from indy publishers.
Anyone who says this game is shit hasn't played it or just has poor taste in games IMO.
***** he played one mode... and it was an alpha build.
Nah, I know there are 2 more monsters, there are more hunters, more maps, and I believe there are more game modes to choose from. I guess we'll see though.
***** They removed those monsters because they were broken.
Not to sell as DLC
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Just found your videos and loving them. So refreshing for someone that tells it as it is. Found myself 100% agreeing with you on games we've both played and I 100% trust you. On top of that I find myself cracking up minute by minute and can't stop watching your videos. Your hilarious man, love it. Hope you can keep it up will support you as I can.
That "console game" song was so great, so uplifting xD
"A console game, a console game, you don't need to aim in a console game" for Christmas no.1 2014
You got bored after an hour!? that's awesome mate! I got bored after 5 minutes...
Mac what GPU were you using during this footage?
Do you tell me i cant change the controls of this game?
Another excellent review. I played this back in E3 and my impressions of the game match yours. So much was going on in with explosions, colour, movement and noise I had enough after one game. Talk about a game geared for those with ADD.
One day a dev is going to watch these vids. He'll say "Holy shit! Thank you Mack for giving me the info to make a halfway decent game".... one day
You can sneak as a monster using the left control button; it hides your tracks, but you go slower ofc.I don't think you realized this in your playthrough. Using this I never had trouble as a goliath. At level 1 you want to evolve as soon as possible by avoiding the hunters so you stand a chance. At level 2 you can survive a fight pretty easily. At level 3 the game is pretty much in your favor, unless the hunters are really working together well.
I use it in the video.
Worth A Buy But why didn't you mention it in the video? Stealth is quite effective once you learn how to use it
Mack, will you do a Sid Meier's Civilization Beyond Earth worth a buy?
Spot on review.. spot on...
could you do a review on the game called "Depth" on steam, it looks good, it's divers vs sharks and actually looks kinda scary to play as the divers in the dark sea. the only thing I don't like is that the sharks looks kinda fast
Brutal honesty as always Mack, keep up the good work!
So it is like Left4Dead VS mode, but with one person always playing the Tank?
Awesome review. I expected as much from this game. Mack are you going back to X-Rebirth anytime soon? Just wondering.
I Played the alpha for this game using both keyboard/mouse and with an Xbox 360 controller. I Had no issues playing with either controls, the only time using a keyboard did I have issues was when I was using some of the monsters abilities such as the rock throwing attack or leap attack, but that was only because the indicator wasn't bright enough. Another issue I had with the game was that after about 4 games it started to become rather repetitive but overall the alpha experience is not to bad. However I don't think it's price is worthy for what it offers right now.
whats the name of the song??
Mack I'm sorry. Usually I agree with your video but I've played the Evolve Big Alpha and I disagree SO much with this. It's not 'one-sided' at the start... I don't know if you realise but as the monster you can 'sneak' by pressing lctrl and you leave NO tracks.. At the start of the round it's actually quiet easy to escape the hunters if you just sneak off immediately... One you're off they have no idea where you are and where to find you so you can just crawl off constantly 'sniffing' to make sure they're not coming up behind you and to find food and in no time you'll reach stage 2 and at that point you can put up with a fairly good fight... It takes a good monster to avoid the hunters until stage 3 but an even better hunter squad to find a monster that's left no trail. Or just plain bad-luck for the monster. Also at one point in the video you said 'it's like a constant l4d boss fight'. Mack.... It was made by the people that made Left 4 dead, what do you expect? In my opinion this game is well worth the money. It's not the exact same every time. I'm really sorry to say this Mack but you haven't played it enough to actually have learnt how to play it properly and you sounded like a complete noob in this video... Sorry.
Agree with the video. Its really hard to play as a monster given that how easy it is as there human. However it is very rewarding to play as a monster. It require thinking and planning compare to playing as human.
I actually had a great time playing this, didn't feel the controls were bad, several of my friends that are purist PC gamers didn't make comments to suggest otherwise. I'll say my mouse movements didn't feel as fluid and accurate but I'm hoping since they're charging $70 they will get that worked out for the PC version. Map size could be larger but I think they did this to promote a more lively pace. The environment is where this game shines in my opinion. I was really surprised on the amount of wildlife that existed, and even more so when said wildlife devoured me. Will definitely be a game to come back to when it's released Mack :)
I kinda felt like it was not going that good :( But was this game not from the creators or people that worked on l4d?
Coming home from school and seeing this on my Inbox made me smile :D
I love thinking about a game and finding he did a review about it because he is real about his review and not just trying to sell the game.
I air striked a lone monster from the other side of the map while it was feeding and got the kill lol...
Most of the time you are just playing tag with the monster, chasing the fucker around the map till time runs out or you can pin them down and actually fight.
I didn't really have an issue with the monster controls
hmmm. In addition to what you've pointed out Mack, I would suggest being able to load out you characters gear {especially the monsters}. The monster could have different leg load outs that do different things {one that makes him fast, one that makes him jump higher, ect}; and the same for humans {either jet pack, or med pack, not both}. this adds a bit more customization to the game, while also making people pick between using stuff like a jet pack or trapper pack {so their not so over powered}. I would also like to see at least two monsters vs. the humans {to be able to form tactics and ambushes with the monsters} or at the very least some kind of system that allows you to be able to utilize other monsters on the field by say having them spy for you, or help flank the humans for traps and ambushes. shit, at least something that balances out the game for that price.
Thanks for this video mack. I think you are correct on all points. Imagine if this was sliced with an aliens universe idea? a fragile group of marines fighting a firstly very weak alien player that stalks them in first person. Keep the environment aesthetic and everything the same but just add some tension or something.
Reminds me of Giants: Citizen Kabuto. Except that game had big maps and actually sort of worked. That game had progression for all sides, meccs and sea reapers had to build up their bases to get decent firepower. While that happened, Kabuto (the big-ass monster) could kick some arse without having necessarily having to focus on growing bigger, which, by the way, happened the same way as in this game.
Lo, sick to death of console style games on PC. Nothing to see here move along, move along. I have been playing computer games since about 1981 (mazogs and 3D monster maze was where it started for me) and i really feel that we are in a major slump now regarding originality.
In my opinion the start of the game should have the Hunters dropship crashland. Have the humans seperated at the start due to the crash with their main equipment scattered accross the map, having it randomized each time. Would make the very start of the match alot tenser if you're a Hunter and give the Monster more of a fair chance.
a good video as always
I was expecting an example of a fight with benny hill music on lol
Totally agree Mac,I felt so detached from what was going on
Mack, Do you think you could review Bioshock Infinite Please :)
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Thanks Mack for another great review, - Request: Far Sky review, its an alpha survival game!
Played closed beta last two days and pretty much every flaw you mentioned is still here. I can actually add another one - terrible matchmaking. When I was a monster lv2 or 3 I got matched against a team with fella lv12 that was often randomly picked as medic - I knew from the very beginning that match won't take more than few mins. Length of most games is also an issue coz hunters can easily take monster down in 3/4 minutes and then watching all progress bars and timers before next match takes as long as the actual match! I'm glad I got this one to try in beta coz until today I was considering buying this **** in February...
Just wanted to throw out a term which should best describe this game. Which is the good ol' "Cat and Mouse" gametype. Like you said Mack, they could have made it better. Thanks for the early heads up review
Damn, that's just exactly what I've said to my friends yesterday. I knew I can trust you Mack ;)
Can you please do one on Kerbal Space Program? It's in alpha and I think you might enjoy it. I hope you paid a little attention to Earth/space science in school, though.
Was wondering why the hell the video was so smooth; then i looked at the 720p60fps sign. Insanely better than 1080p at 30fps i have to say.
Really glad to see someone actually call this game out. Everyone is having such a shitwank over it, and I haven't been ever able to understand why, because every bit of footage I have seen has just made this thing look like a dull as fuck arena shooter gone bad.
I'm not even convinced it's a great concept tbh, it's a B grade game somehow given AAA status by a few media outlets who have run feature after feature on it just becuase its MULTEEPLAYUR and GUNZ.
To hear you say, well its just quite shit, is quite a relief Mack.
There was a Quake 2 mod for this, it was great fun on LAN, think it was called Predator. Great premise and the monster there was powerful as heck.
When I played the alpha I never got the chance to play as the monster but it does seem that the monster is under powered compared to a good team of hunters. I think the most OP class IMO is the Engineer(?)
There should be an Alien: Isolation version of this where mission objectives sometimes force the players to split up. And of course the humans should be fragile like the single player game.
Damn. I was hoping this would be similar to Giants: Citizen Kabuto with essentially Kabuto vs the mechs.
will this game ever Evolve out of alpha
I played Titanfall for about an hour when it was having a free trial weekend once, because that was how long its appeal lasted. That'd be the only way I'd play this and for about as long by the looks, only I wouldn't because, comprehending just how limited my entertainment would be in advance, I couldn't be arsed.
It's a console game, it's a console game! You never cease to crack me up xD
How about having puny humans that have to create resource towers like NS2. the monster starts on the other side of the map. Its not timed instead your team has a life pool that sets a certain number of spawn before game over. Your monster starts of a small but stealthy predator. each level marks an evolution marks a new stage where start getting bigger and more of a brute, like the mechs from titanfall . Humans on foot are quicker (cant outrun the monster) and harder to spot but fragile. also have caves and stuff for humans to hide. In the early stages of the monster it can enter caves and actually has an advantage in there.
humans are eveything BUT OP. i have never lost with the monster and i played around 50 games with it. i see what you mean tho. when you are stage one you cant really take the risk to attack the humans. but i have managed to win a few times even though i was in stage 1. i also agree that the maps should be bigger and that the monster should have more of a hunting and stealth role. lets hope the devs listen to the feedback!
(BTW) good video! ;D
This isn't the normal Early access title you're used to reviewing. The Alpha was just an alpha test which was free. The game is up for pre-order not to buy into an Early access program for it.
I will say though, I thought this game would be about the monster hunting down a group of survivors, I recall the monster being advertised as 'Invincible'
I thought you can cover your tracks as the monster or something? And yes from what I've seen in other videos the monster looks pretty damn weak, you basically have to avoid them until you're able to evolve enough to actually do fun things.
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Guess you can't cover tracks, I think sneaking doesn't leave behind tracks though.
Mack, Mack, Mack. Just because you play like shit with monster doesn't mean the game is unbalanced. Don't step on birds, sniff alot, sneak more, use your goddamn skills and know when to attack and when to flee. Still your'e right on the other stuff.
You and angry Joe are one of the few people that makes proper reveiws.
IGN has gone to hell. and i'm pretty sure they are getting bribed.
Thank you so much for taking time for this.
Seems kinda meh got a friend that has it says you don't even have to hunt the monster as the hunters ... just camp at generator and wait till monster hits level 3
Also they already announced 3 more monsters to play each for 10$ DLC each.
I always thought valve made l4d, did valve just publish it?
*sigh* People were skeptical about the "balance" between monster & hunters since the very beginning, but it seems the skeptics were right.
Good video, Mack!
I get what you're saying, but it wouldn't be viable if the monster was able to do what he should be able to do at that size. If he could just run up and eat them there would be no game. They are the hunters, they have to at least be on par with the monster. With more play time you would find that if you play it smart and sneak until you have evolved once or twice you will be much more powerful and then you can be the hunter and hit them when they're split.
Most of your reviews i do agree with but id have to disagree with you hear they are changing alot before release and as this review was in nov things have changed. the 3rd person on the monster was there all along and tbh in my opinion i like being able to see the beast
I rolled laughing at his console game song.
Just started playing this morning. Very good concept but just like Mack said its more of a console port. Controls are a bit clunky, maps arent very big, the ui is made for a controller. Right now there are huge performance issues the game is not optimised properly. Matchmaking and loading times can be unimaginably long. But ofcourse this is Alpha. Other than these issues the game is fun. Not a spectaculor game but a very good game. I believe a fair release price should be about 25$.
PS. I got in to Alpha for free because i own XCOM.
Fuck dude... it had such a chance to be good :( The idea sounded great! But the gameplay seems so dull... They could have made humans have to construct a base, even just the one that's already magically there that they have to protect? What if for that 10 minutes the Monster has to feed, the Humans had to build up a base and defenses? Turrets, walls, put the mines down, could have been great :(
Exactly my thoughts after playing like 4 rounds of the game.
Sure the Alpha had a rocky start but now its all good and i think that its worth the money.
Giants: Citizen Kabuto. Best primal / survival / fun game of all time. Evolve doesn't hold a candle :)
What sort of fool pays full price for an Alpha rather than waiting for a few months after release and getting the finished thing for half the price in a sale? Gamers get treated like idiots because an alarming number actually are.
Would've been so much better if humans start with no weapons, monster starts on other side of map, monster is unkillable, human gameplay is based around hiding and/or using traps to slow monster down, and human objective is to make it across the map alive.
Haha I love this first impression
When are you going to make your own game? I would play that. Forever.
Mack you are wrong with this one. The controls are awesome, it's not consolised and the balance is pretty good. I was the monster once, ran away, ate alot, evolved and then kicked the shit out the humans and then destroyed the reactor. And all I thought was "they are doing a great job with the controls and introduction into the mechanics".
Awesome game! (no pun intended btw)
(ps: I got it for free somehow, maybe I would think about it differently if I had payed 35 bucks ;-) Dunno how it ended up in my steam library)
ohhh I love this guy :D
That's the state of modern gaming, in racing games its now lets make a game for the casual player who got the game free in their console bundle, who will play it a couple of times, never play it again and piss are core audience off. Most shooters/adventure etc. games now suffer from glowing object syndrome and x-ray vision and half arsed games you have to buy the other half of and the features that would have been in the game a few year ago as DLC.
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You were right Mack, I tried this game last year, it is still shit.
I agree with you 100%. Played the alpha and after 4 games Uninstalled it. Its so boring after 1 or 2 hours. Cant believe its gonna be 60 buckaroos
Do a rewiev on Miscreated Mack,if thats ok with you..
Mac thanks for yet another video that speaks the truth, and making me laugh my ass off.
This game has since gone F2P, and given its production quality, is probably one of the best F2Ps on the market. The problem is that the game did not launch this way. They originally wanted 60$ for the damn game, then another 60$ in cash shop day 1 DLCs. They didn't change this until after they milked it for as much as possible, for as long as possible. Only after the game became a deserted ghost town did they decide to change it. So if you bought this before the F2P change, you got ripped. If you rightfully didn't, then you were one of the smart folks. Personally I called it going F2P in a year, and like several others I predicted, it did exactly that.
The desperate F2P switch has turned the game from a deserted failure into a booming success. But if you paid for it at launch, it's probably hard to forget how hard you were ripped. I hope some lessons were learned here, for developers and players. But given the shit state the industry is in today; I doubt anyone learned a damn thing.
I got this game for free somehow in my steam library.
For once i disagre with you Mac. If the monster knows what he's doing, hunting it is rly hard. Sure it runs away from you at first but when he gets stronger. You rly have to watch out as a hunter.
At Evolve's present state, even with decent matchmaking, I can't help but think the number of disconnects from the monsters will completely grieve the player base. This game, even as is, would be great between 5 friends. However, it gets old quick -- as-is. The concept is good. The monster needs to be feared, regardless of what level. The no-fear YOLO approach / attack ruins the game early on. Strategy should be exalted in a game like this, not the typical run-and-gun, chase it until it's dead gameplay.
I feel like calling it an alpha is just a ploy to make people think it's going to get a shit ton more content and give it a better review.
I felt like the controls were fine to be honest.
Also the monster is in 3rd person because they felt it was easier to control and find players in 3rd person, they said this in an interview a long time ago.
The game is honestly pretty fun but only for a day or two, it gets repetitive pretty quickly.
Especially with the no customization outside the 1 perk you can choose and 1 addition character per class, I feel there needs to be a huge amount of customization to vary the gameplay.
If this were like $20 maybe $30 I would buy it but at $60 they would have to do some major improvements.
I managed to get into the alpha because i owned Xcom. It was a fantastic insight, completely ruined my excitement for the game.
When the game was teased at E3 it looked gritty and terrifying from the human perspective.
They also have to optimize it A LOT. Didn't reach 30 fps on lowest in my more than decent computer. Another thing is that the fun depends 70% on the guy who controls the monster. In one server a stupid jackass just went right into us at the start and he got instantly killed. The round literally lasted two minutes. Plus, loading times are horrible, maps change every. Single. Fucking. Round. Which is unnecessary. They still have a lot to work on, but I think that they can get all of that fixed in the future. Not nearly worth paying 50 euros at the moment though.
its kind of sad tbh. but... it seems like i am one of these few people who are on Point with what ur saying Mack...This casual bullshit nowadays just... god damnit... But al least its nice that Elite: Dangerous will come out soon...
this game is perfect :D no more COD repetition finally something new and fair :D
I understand the monster being overpowered but the humans being overpowered? That breaks the whole point of the game. Thats terrible balancing right there. Im sure they will fix in the future though.
all u said makes the game better
yea I do wish the monster was first person and the humans are way to powerful....and I completely agree that the map was far to small and the game just to fast paced for a hunter vs hunted game... could of been great but it is sub par
you have played damned right?
CONSOLIZED!
Usually you make some great points on your video's mack, but with this one I see nothing but whining about issues that are fixed by playing properly. The hunters are far from ''OP'', the whole thing about them finding the monster so fast and such is a pretty basic issue of learning to juke / use stealth. If you actually play the game the way it is meant to be played it has much more suspense as it isn't just a ''run from the hunters and eat as much as you can while they sit on your tail''.
The monster, If played properly is able to engage / disengage at will, As well as not be found if you don't want to be. Rank 2 or 3 monster can decimate the 4 hunters all at once, All it takes is using your leap and stealth to get some distance from the start point then chow down. Stealth also completely negates the birds provided you think a bit. This ''first impressions'' is pretty much as close minded as they come. You could really do with a basic understanding of the game and it's mechanics because it isn't as black and white as you are putting it out as.
TL;DR?
You are basically giving a game bad press because you don't understand it.