The rest of the sentence from your second clause is "... For it is God who works in you, both to will and to work, for His good pleasure", and it was stated just a few verses earlier (1:6) that "He who began a good work in you will perfect it unto the day of Christ Jesus". Please keep Scripture in context. Salvation is more than just our initial Justification, which is a monergistic act of God; it also includes the synergistic act of Sanctification. Your first clause can only be relevant if one neglects to consider the doctrine of Regeneration, that if one is saved they become a new creature in Christ with new affections. Those new affections include the desire to repent of sin. I will fully concede that there are many who will insist they are saved because of a one-time prayer, but if they bear no fruit they were never truly saved in the first place. As a new creation, we desire to press into God and His ways; if we lack this desire and are perfectly fine with pursuing a lifestyle of sin we have not been regenerated and have no Salvation to lose. In this case, one is simply self-deceived. The Scriptures clearly instruct us to examine ourselves to be sure we are in the Faith. Hope you are doing well. God bless you and your continued study.
I think the core of this issue is regeneration. Those who have been given the Holy Spirit have been sealed by God until the day of Christ Jesus. That is not a free license to sin, May it never be! There are hyper grace ideologies which is heretical. Notice how right after that scripture you quoted it says, “for it is God in you both to will and to work according to his good pleasure.” The causation of our fear and trembling in that context is not Paul threatening believers, but rather to display the mystery of Godliness in that we fear God because he is Almighty and All-Powerful even working our own sanctification, meaning that none of us can boast except fall on our face and prostrate ourselves towards a Holy God. Not believing in eternal security can easily lead to self righteousness and man made standards that get imposed onto others. Our obedience is rooted in what scripture commands us to do, nothing else. Which is something the Apostles had to admonish believer’s towards constantly. Our liberty in Christ is not to sin, but by his grace sin no longer has power over us and we are free to walk in new life, and in the most efficacious grace of his timing we look back and see his hand conforming us to the image of his Son. We cannot look within ourselves to find some energy to try and be holier, for within man lies only death. Rather we look to our Lord and Savior who will trample our inquiries under his feet as we cry out “Abba Father!” I think people’s understanding of OSAS is cheap much of the time and while it is certainly abused by some, the doctrine of eternal security is biblical but must be wielded properly just like all other aspects of Gods Word. Shalom.
@@dustinfordham4007Hey Brother, I didn’t even see or read your comment until after I left mine, we said many of the same things in our response. The Holy Spirit is moving haha! God bless.
24:38 did tamar or Juda uncover the other. Nighter uncovered the other, Judas sin was his refusal concerning his son. Where was Tamar’s sin? Look Closely Still None Mentioned By the text Yes Traditional things Lv
“For we know that the law is spiritual, but I am carnal, sold under sin.” (Romans 7:14) Once we understand that the two breads represent the old and new covenants. Which is what Christ is talking about in John 6. “Then Jesus said to them, “Most assuredly, I say to you, Moses did not give you the bread from heaven, but My Father gives you the true bread from heaven.” John 6:32 In John 6 Christ uses two very different breads to symbolize two very different laws or covenants. There’s the Bread of Life, The Law by which “all the families of the earth shall be blessed”, and the bread that Moses gave, which is the law contained in ordinances, a “man’s covenant”, a way that seems right to a man, but in the end will lead to death. These two breads represent The Covenant of Promise and The Covenant from Horeb which came 430 years after. This is why Satan sought to tempt Christ by saying, “If You are the Son of God, command that these stones become bread.”, which is the equivalent of commanding the people to become a god unto themselves. The unleavened bread is the pure law born of The Father, The Son. While the leavened bread is the bread born of Moses, which is the law leavened with earthly ordinances, the doctrines of man, or as Paul puts it in his letter to the Galatians, “a man’s covenant” (Galatians 3:15), which came as a result of their failing The Father’s test and transgressing The Son, The Law, The Word born of The Father, The Gospel. In simple terms, the terms of The Covenant of Promise are; “if you will hear and obey God’s voice, He will be your God and you will be His people”. The Word that’s born of The Father is, “The Bread of Life”. Then along comes Satan who tempts The Son to break The Covenant of Promise by trying to get Him to hear and obey his voice, which is symbolized by the stones (Matthew 4:3). So using the symbolism of the stones, there’s only one way a dead stone can become a living stone, and that’s to pass the test. For those who do Paul writes: “You are our epistle written in our hearts, known and read by all men; clearly you are an epistle of Christ, ministered by us, written not with ink but by the Spirit of the living God, not on tablets of stone but on tablets of flesh, that is, of the heart.” (2 Corinthians 3:2-3) So the instruction to “remove the leaven” is The Father using the physical, that which we know, to reveal the spiritual, that which we don’t know. Once we understand this, we’ll understand what Paul writes to the believers in Corinth. “Therefore let us keep the feast, not with old leaven, nor with the leaven of malice and wickedness, but with the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth.” (1 Corinthians 5:8) May you be blessed in your pursuit of truth!
@@MessiahMatters The "Old Covenant" is The Covenant from Horeb/Book of the Law Covenant which we're told was ratified in Exodus 24. "Then he took the Book of the Covenant and read it to the people. They responded, “We will do everything the Lord has said; we will obey.” Moses then took the blood, sprinkled it on the people and said, “This is the blood of the covenant that the Lord has made with you in accordance with all these words.” (Exodus 24:7-8)
John 6:32 is not saying what Moses gave is not true, in fact its saying it is true but that it didnt come feom Moses, it has always been from the Father.@twenty-fivethirty-six3946
@@johnnybaptist6933 We need to remember the context presented just moments earlier when Christ told them, “don’t work for food that spoils, but food that endures to eternal life” (John 6:27). So Christ is going to explain what food He’s talking about. “Our ancestors ate the manna in the wilderness; as it is written: ‘He gave them bread from heaven to eat. Jesus said to them, “Very truly I tell you, it is not “Moses” who has given you the bread from heaven, but it is my Father who gives you the true bread from heaven.” John 6:31-32 Now the key is to understand what the two breads from heaven represent. First, there’s the bread that Moses gave which we read about in Exodus. “Then Moses took the Book of the Covenant and read it to the people. They responded, “We will do everything the Lord has said; we will obey.” Moses then took the blood, sprinkled it on the people and said, “This is the blood of the covenant that the Lord has made with you in accordance with all these words.” Exodus 24:4-8 So what was the “bread” that Moses gave their forefathers? It was The Covenant from Horeb, or what many refer to as the torah. And why were they given this bread? “Why, then, was the law given at all? It was added because of transgressions until the Seed to whom the promise referred had come. The law was given through angels and entrusted to a mediator.” Galatians 3:19 Let’s take a look at what Jeremiah had to say about The Covenant from Horeb. “For I (meaning YaHWeH) did not speak to your fathers, or command them on the day that I brought them out of the land of Egypt, concerning burnt offerings and sacrifices. But this is what I commanded them, saying, ‘Obey My voice, and I will be your God, and you will be My people; and you shall walk entirely in the way which I command you, so that it may go well for you.’ Yet they did not obey or incline their ear, but walked by their own advice and in the stubbornness of their evil hearts, and they went backward and not forward.” Jeremiah 7:22-24 For more on this check out our teaching entitled, “The TWO Deaths, Burials, and Resurrections of The Word”, we explore this in detail. “The people all responded together, “We will do everything the Lord has said.” So Moses brought their answer back to the Lord.” Exodus 19:8 But to summarize, the people broke their promise to hear and obey everything the Father said. As a result, they were given the Covenant from Horeb which later became “The Book of the Law Covenant”. It’s in this context Christ said to them: “For the bread of God is the bread that comes down from heaven and gives life to the world.” John 6:33 Christ tells the people that the bread He’s offering gives life. And who wouldn’t want this bread. So, naturally the people respond by saying: “Sir,” they said, “always give us this bread. Then Jesus declared, “I am the bread of life. Whoever comes to me will never go hungry, and whoever believes in me will never be thirsty.” John 6:34-35 This should help bring some context to when Christ offered the bread and wine to His disciples at The Last Supper, symbolizing His body and His blood. “While they were eating, Jesus took bread, and when he had given thanks, he broke it and gave it to his disciples, saying, “Take and eat; this is my body. Then he took a cup, and when he had given thanks, he gave it to them, saying, “Drink from it, all of you. This is my blood of the covenant, which is poured out for many for the forgiveness of sins.” Matthew 26:26-28 Christ is using the bread and wine as a way to tell His disciples to consume Him, the Living Word, The Word that comes from the voice of the Father, not the bread that came from Moses. Let’s skip down to verse 49 where we’re told why. “Your ancestors ate the manna in the wilderness, yet they died. But here is the bread that comes down from heaven, which anyone may eat and not die. “I am the living bread that came down from heaven. Whoever eats this bread will live forever. This bread is my flesh, which I will give for the life of the world.” John 6:49-51 Shalom
@twenty-fivethirty-six3946 What I'm saying is that Jesus wasn't nullifying Moses teaching in any way. Jesus does not replace the Torah no matter how one views Torah. He is the perfect example of Torah both physically and spiritually. He showed the very heart of Torah by magnifying it. It seems you're saying that Jesus is telling us to throw away Torah and just believe in him. Is this what you're saying?
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The idea of the “ gift of faith” is the biblical example of how faith works.
That’s how the “Wind” puts it, gentlemen.
The footprints are Yeshua writing that faith on our hearts.
That’s the mic 🎤 drop
Just crickets haha
I know this is an old post, but Caleb what do you think about fermented drinks like beer and wine During passport?
I personally don't see them as a problem. You would never be able to make bread from beer or wine or the yeast that is found in them.
OSAS is downfall of many who believe they can sin because grace abounds. Workout your salvation with fear and trembling .
The rest of the sentence from your second clause is "... For it is God who works in you, both to will and to work, for His good pleasure", and it was stated just a few verses earlier (1:6) that "He who began a good work in you will perfect it unto the day of Christ Jesus". Please keep Scripture in context.
Salvation is more than just our initial Justification, which is a monergistic act of God; it also includes the synergistic act of Sanctification. Your first clause can only be relevant if one neglects to consider the doctrine of Regeneration, that if one is saved they become a new creature in Christ with new affections. Those new affections include the desire to repent of sin.
I will fully concede that there are many who will insist they are saved because of a one-time prayer, but if they bear no fruit they were never truly saved in the first place. As a new creation, we desire to press into God and His ways; if we lack this desire and are perfectly fine with pursuing a lifestyle of sin we have not been regenerated and have no Salvation to lose. In this case, one is simply self-deceived. The Scriptures clearly instruct us to examine ourselves to be sure we are in the Faith.
Hope you are doing well. God bless you and your continued study.
I think the core of this issue is regeneration. Those who have been given the Holy Spirit have been sealed by God until the day of Christ Jesus. That is not a free license to sin, May it never be! There are hyper grace ideologies which is heretical. Notice how right after that scripture you quoted it says, “for it is God in you both to will and to work according to his good pleasure.” The causation of our fear and trembling in that context is not Paul threatening believers, but rather to display the mystery of Godliness in that we fear God because he is Almighty and All-Powerful even working our own sanctification, meaning that none of us can boast except fall on our face and prostrate ourselves towards a Holy God. Not believing in eternal security can easily lead to self righteousness and man made standards that get imposed onto others. Our obedience is rooted in what scripture commands us to do, nothing else. Which is something the Apostles had to admonish believer’s towards constantly. Our liberty in Christ is not to sin, but by his grace sin no longer has power over us and we are free to walk in new life, and in the most efficacious grace of his timing we look back and see his hand conforming us to the image of his Son. We cannot look within ourselves to find some energy to try and be holier, for within man lies only death. Rather we look to our Lord and Savior who will trample our inquiries under his feet as we cry out “Abba Father!” I think people’s understanding of OSAS is cheap much of the time and while it is certainly abused by some, the doctrine of eternal security is biblical but must be wielded properly just like all other aspects of Gods Word. Shalom.
@@dustinfordham4007Hey Brother, I didn’t even see or read your comment until after I left mine, we said many of the same things in our response. The Holy Spirit is moving haha! God bless.
24:38 did tamar or Juda uncover the other. Nighter uncovered the other, Judas sin was his refusal concerning his son. Where was Tamar’s sin?
Look
Closely
Still
None
Mentioned
By the text
Yes
Traditional things
Lv
“For we know that the law is spiritual, but I am carnal, sold under sin.” (Romans 7:14) Once we understand that the two breads represent the old and new covenants. Which is what Christ is talking about in John 6.
“Then Jesus said to them, “Most assuredly, I say to you, Moses did not give you the bread from heaven, but My Father gives you the true bread from heaven.” John 6:32
In John 6 Christ uses two very different breads to symbolize two very different laws or covenants. There’s the Bread of Life, The Law by which “all the families of the earth shall be blessed”, and the bread that Moses gave, which is the law contained in ordinances, a “man’s covenant”, a way that seems right to a man, but in the end will lead to death.
These two breads represent The Covenant of Promise and The Covenant from Horeb which came 430 years after. This is why Satan sought to tempt Christ by saying, “If You are the Son of God, command that these stones become bread.”, which is the equivalent of commanding the people to become a god unto themselves.
The unleavened bread is the pure law born of The Father, The Son. While the leavened bread is the bread born of Moses, which is the law leavened with earthly ordinances, the doctrines of man, or as Paul puts it in his letter to the Galatians, “a man’s covenant” (Galatians 3:15), which came as a result of their failing The Father’s test and transgressing The Son, The Law, The Word born of The Father, The Gospel.
In simple terms, the terms of The Covenant of Promise are; “if you will hear and obey God’s voice, He will be your God and you will be His people”. The Word that’s born of The Father is, “The Bread of Life”. Then along comes Satan who tempts The Son to break The Covenant of Promise by trying to get Him to hear and obey his voice, which is symbolized by the stones (Matthew 4:3).
So using the symbolism of the stones, there’s only one way a dead stone can become a living stone, and that’s to pass the test. For those who do Paul writes:
“You are our epistle written in our hearts, known and read by all men; clearly you are an epistle of Christ, ministered by us, written not with ink but by the Spirit of the living God, not on tablets of stone but on tablets of flesh, that is, of the heart.” (2 Corinthians 3:2-3)
So the instruction to “remove the leaven” is The Father using the physical, that which we know, to reveal the spiritual, that which we don’t know. Once we understand this, we’ll understand what Paul writes to the believers in Corinth.
“Therefore let us keep the feast, not with old leaven, nor with the leaven of malice and wickedness, but with the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth.” (1 Corinthians 5:8)
May you be blessed in your pursuit of truth!
Define "Old Covenant."
@@MessiahMatters The "Old Covenant" is The Covenant from Horeb/Book of the Law Covenant which we're told was ratified in Exodus 24. "Then he took the Book of the Covenant and read it to the people. They responded, “We will do everything the Lord has said; we will obey.” Moses then took the blood, sprinkled it on the people and said, “This is the blood of the covenant that the Lord has made with you in accordance with all these words.” (Exodus 24:7-8)
John 6:32 is not saying what Moses gave is not true, in fact its saying it is true but that it didnt come feom Moses, it has always been from the Father.@twenty-fivethirty-six3946
@@johnnybaptist6933 We need to remember the context presented just moments earlier when Christ told them, “don’t work for food that spoils, but food that endures to eternal life” (John 6:27). So Christ is going to explain what food He’s talking about.
“Our ancestors ate the manna in the wilderness; as it is written: ‘He gave them bread from heaven to eat. Jesus said to them, “Very truly I tell you, it is not “Moses” who has given you the bread from heaven, but it is my Father who gives you the true bread from heaven.” John 6:31-32
Now the key is to understand what the two breads from heaven represent. First, there’s the bread that Moses gave which we read about in Exodus.
“Then Moses took the Book of the Covenant and read it to the people. They responded, “We will do everything the Lord has said; we will obey.” Moses then took the blood, sprinkled it on the people and said, “This is the blood of the covenant that the Lord has made with you in accordance with all these words.” Exodus 24:4-8
So what was the “bread” that Moses gave their forefathers? It was The Covenant from Horeb, or what many refer to as the torah. And why were they given this bread?
“Why, then, was the law given at all? It was added because of transgressions until the Seed to whom the promise referred had come. The law was given through angels and entrusted to a mediator.” Galatians 3:19
Let’s take a look at what Jeremiah had to say about The Covenant from Horeb.
“For I (meaning YaHWeH) did not speak to your fathers, or command them on the day that I brought them out of the land of Egypt, concerning burnt offerings and sacrifices. But this is what I commanded them, saying, ‘Obey My voice, and I will be your God, and you will be My people; and you shall walk entirely in the way which I command you, so that it may go well for you.’ Yet they did not obey or incline their ear, but walked by their own advice and in the stubbornness of their evil hearts, and they went backward and not forward.” Jeremiah 7:22-24
For more on this check out our teaching entitled, “The TWO Deaths, Burials, and Resurrections of The Word”, we explore this in detail.
“The people all responded together, “We will do everything the Lord has said.” So Moses brought their answer back to the Lord.” Exodus 19:8
But to summarize, the people broke their promise to hear and obey everything the Father said. As a result, they were given the Covenant from Horeb which later became “The Book of the Law Covenant”. It’s in this context Christ said to them:
“For the bread of God is the bread that comes down from heaven and gives life to the world.” John 6:33
Christ tells the people that the bread He’s offering gives life. And who wouldn’t want this bread. So, naturally the people respond by saying:
“Sir,” they said, “always give us this bread. Then Jesus declared, “I am the bread of life. Whoever comes to me will never go hungry, and whoever believes in me will never be thirsty.” John 6:34-35
This should help bring some context to when Christ offered the bread and wine to His disciples at The Last Supper, symbolizing His body and His blood.
“While they were eating, Jesus took bread, and when he had given thanks, he broke it and gave it to his disciples, saying, “Take and eat; this is my body. Then he took a cup, and when he had given thanks, he gave it to them, saying, “Drink from it, all of you. This is my blood of the covenant, which is poured out for many for the forgiveness of sins.” Matthew 26:26-28
Christ is using the bread and wine as a way to tell His disciples to consume Him, the Living Word, The Word that comes from the voice of the Father, not the bread that came from Moses. Let’s skip down to verse 49 where we’re told why.
“Your ancestors ate the manna in the wilderness, yet they died. But here is the bread that comes down from heaven, which anyone may eat and not die. “I am the living bread that came down from heaven. Whoever eats this bread will live forever. This bread is my flesh, which I will give for the life of the world.” John 6:49-51
Shalom
@twenty-fivethirty-six3946 What I'm saying is that Jesus wasn't nullifying Moses teaching in any way. Jesus does not replace the Torah no matter how one views Torah. He is the perfect example of Torah both physically and spiritually. He showed the very heart of Torah by magnifying it. It seems you're saying that Jesus is telling us to throw away Torah and just believe in him. Is this what you're saying?
Why did you censored the comments about the didache ? That's suspicious
We didn't censor comments that I'm aware of.