John Mayer Said It's Not A Strat (WAS HE RIGHT?!)
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I can't wait until the moment you get big enough that Mayer comes in your show.
It’s only a matter of time… @johnmayer
On
Don't hold your breath.
@BOUT!QUE that’s on the OF channel
Who is your show and why are we coming in him
My main guitar is a Silver Sky, and i absolutely love it. I have been through quite alot of strats throughout my guitar journey, and once got to try an original 1962 strat. Since then, everytime i try a strat i subconciously compare it to that glorious '62 strat, and nothing ever came close, untill i tried the silver sky. Mine, is the best guitar i've played, that wasn't dumb-money
Fender has really watered down the strat by having so many different models that play so differently and all over the place. I really like the neck on the Silver Sky as it's nice and chunky like my Peavey Predator.
@@davidmckean955 yea, the neck is definitely a highlight for me as well. It's is just so damn comfortable
I'm in the same boat, but on a budget. Tried several US strats before buying, after 30 years of not playing (had a US Strat back then). Ended up with a Silver Sky SE, because it was more of a strat than any of the US Players i tried, atleast soundwise. And the QC/finish is leagues better on an Indonesian PRS than a US Player ..
I have a very similar story. The Silver Sky is a masterpiece
Is the SE version good?
I rock pacifica 612 as my main guitar, and really want a true SSS guitar on SE range. Either silversky or nick johnston
He’s right. A Strat is affordable.
Depends on the strat
There's a particular Strat model that I would love to get my hands on, but my wallet (and wife) tell me that I can't afford it (if anyone believe in the power of prayer, please pray for my lottery ticket 😄).
That is the best answer you win lol
An American made strat is around 2500 here in Canada. How is that affordable?
The SE silver sky is under $1000. Maybe get a better paying job or work harder.
I have several American Strats, including the John Mayer and Clapton Strats. I also have the Moc Sand and Lunar Ice Silver Skys. They are all different guitars in sound and feel, but not THAT different. The ones I pick up most are the Moc Sand and the Clapton. The necks on those two just feel special.
Both have the same neck 7.25
John gets to collab DIRECTLY with Paul with his PRS guitars rather than dealing with the faceless corp. today that is Fender, so it is suuper understandable he switched to PRS. John is a strat guy though, and that is a strat, we can have a conversation about strats but we don't need to talk about whether or not it is a strat
Yeah, that's definitely a strat
That first note or two sounded like it was gonna be Don Henley's "The Boys Of Summer" and this video would have been block so hard and so fast ...
When I first heard about the Silver Sky I really wasn't that interested , Very happy with my CU22 and other PRS , then a friend got one and I played it said Hmmm but moved on , then another buddy got one , played again and said this is a thing almost ought that one from him , I now own 2 of them best SSS guitar I have ever owned and likely the guitar that sounds best on me.
I own the limited "Lunar Ice" version for 2 years now and I am still in love 🥰
I got the evergreen one 😫 no longer in production 😏 so ye it's awesome
@@JAIONII.. would it be just as awesome if still in production..?🤔
@@joeurbanowski321 yes ofc lmao I love my silversky it's just a plus to me that they stopped making them
@@JAIONII .. why..?
So is it a chicken bone nut? 🤣🤣🤣
I bought an SE Silver Sky last year. The neck is thick in a comfortable way, by far the best guitar I've played, maybe that's not saying much but it has peaked my interest to dive deeper into PRS. Great video
Mike....if they EVER make a left handed version..I'll be happy to buy and let you know my thoughts ;-) In the meantime, I'll keep buying custom shop Fenders (I've contact PRS every year since 2017 and their responses, including last month, has been the same: "We currently have no plans to produce a left handed Silver Sky in the foreseeable future."). So enjoy, and as always...GREAT F*&KING PLAYING!!!
I wish they would make a lefty…:(
I went to the guitar store expecting to buy a G&L Legacy (I have an ASAT that I love) but came away with a Silver Sky SE. Just felt better than any of the other strat style guitars that I played there.
I am a HUGE Mayer fan as well, and have always loved the feel and sound from a good Strat. I got my Silver Sky about 6 months ago after playing a friend's and falling in love with it. Obviously it is very "Straty", it feels like the best Strat-style guitar I've ever played. But it is more nuanced than that. The Silver Sky is not just a straight-up Strat copy, it has it's own feel and sound to it that you aren't going to find in just any Strat. It really is it's own thing, and it does that "thing" very well!
The PRS Fiore does not have coil taps either. The humbucker in the bridge on that guitar only switches between serial and parallel humbucker. The neck and middle are true single coils.
The Silver Sky is a Strat......but represents Paul's and John's take on the idea. Besides that, there are so many varieties of Strat today, that you almost have to wonder: what exactly is a 'Strat"? Different strokes for different folks.
PRS wasn’t his first stop to try and make a new signature guitar!!!! He went somewhere else first then left high and dry.. So PRS wasn’t the first choice TBH
It has a weak whammy bar system. Same body style with the same pick-up style it's just a morden startocaster. Anyone telling you differently is a liar. Also, it sounds like a start
Great video
I honestly really like the looks and feel of it. I have a problem with the pickups. When comparing side by side, to my ears, even cheaper oem strat pickups have more mojo than the SS pups. The Silver Sky just sounds incredibly sterile, too pristine, almost digital. Not sure what it is.
You should really do one of these on Jimmy Herring...and/or Michael Houser.
Selling yourself short, buddy!
Enjoy!
☮️💜🕉
I bought an Orion Green Silver Sky in 2021 and it's the only guitar I've felt that I will never get rid of. It doesn't feel like a strat to me but it feels great to play and is very versatile. The pickups are super clean sounding and I love that.
it sounds like a prri 65 reissue, not a princeton and certainly not a dumble. I have a prri65 reissue and I love it don't get me wrong, I play it stock unattenuated. But I play it with a 335, alnico 2 pickups. With single coils it just sounds very brittle with no mids.
The Silver Sky is a Strat copy. You can try to talk yourself into believing something else, but we can all see you and it.... get a mirror Mike. You bought a pink Strat copy.
I want one but id have to sell my Clapton strat to afford it...that aint gonna happen
Literally every guitar maker but Gibson builds a Strat or S type guitar so why not the brilliant Paul Reed Smith? The silver sky being a new take on an older classic concept allows players who found the faults in Leo’s original design to get certain things fixed while other classic features remained! Its brilliance as in instrument is in what features were kept versus which ones were updated lol! If your a super fan of a classic strat but also need a few specific modern touches it’s tough to beat
Gibson actually has made some strat style guitars in the past lol
I don't know if it sounds like a Fender or not. I gave up on Fender in 96. However, it sounds fantastic! I mean wow. Great playing and great tones.
...why did you quit fender..
@@zacharymorris6478 cos they've only gotten worse and more woke
In the official Silver Sky presentation, you can see JM basically says it's a modern version of the Strat, but at it's core, still a Strat.
With the quality levels of every aspect of guitars being made today, the differences between one brand and another, has become so subtle, that it is literally down to personal taste, playing style and size of hands (when it comes to necks at least on that last point). I watch Mike's videos and tons of other reviewers channels, as I love hearing and seeing guitars old and new. I spent most of my playing career with one guitar for 30 years, plus a few backups. I've now got a few strats and mid range strat style guitars (plus too many humbucker beasts to mention) but I still want to try out a Silver Sky because whenever I have heard it being played it does seem to have a subtle but distinctive voice.
However, all of my strats have their own feel and sound so I wonder if I'm just suffering from GAS and John Mayer admiration in wanting one of them? I've got so close to buying one and then stopped myself because... well, how many strats does a guy at the end of his career seriously need?
So, I've decided that "if" I decide I want another Strat, I will buy a Silver Sky, because I trust PRS to deliver a quality instrument and I get the spidey-sense tingle that I would love playing it.
In my small city I don't know anyone who owns one that I could borrow for a few nights and trying one out in a guitar store sucks as I want to be able to relax and play through my own rig to make a judgement call. So... it'll probably be mail order or impulse buy at some point. I know I don't "need" another strat, but if I was starting out today would I choose the PRS "Strat" over the Fender? Ya know, I think I just might 😎
PS: Sorry for long ramble - just watching and listening to Mike in this video really got me thinking about it again and browsing guitar stores online.
Peace out and enjoy whatever guitar you love and cherish 👍
One of the biggest differences I’ve noticed between the best guitars I own and the others is that the best ones STAY the best ones.
That sounds weird but my Fender American professional Strat was amazing for the first year that I had it. And then the neck started settling and fret ends started to stick out and this and that and w lot of work has gone into it over the years to the point where it doesn’t have the same magic it did back in 2017.
I’ve had my Silver Sky for nearly four years and have played the snot out of it and it is still every bit as magical of a guitar as it was on day one. It’s as stable as steel and incredible to play. Nothing against Fender, but my Silver Sky is worth every penny
I love my silver sky
He had to say it’s not a Strat to build on the hype. It’s essentially another super Strat and no matter how hard people try and convince themselves it’s different, it’s still a three single coil, double cut “Strat Style” guitar. It’s only ever going to be a variation full stop.
Anybody up to trade a Bad Monkey pedal for a Nebula Silver Sky?
What is the model and brand of the guitar on your back? The orange body and dark red pickguard?
Mike you are a shameless fanboy. If it all possible find yourself a Jollibee restaurant. Best spicy chicken sandwich on Earth. You will thank me.
One thing I like about the Silver Sky is it is one of the few PRS models with a satin neck. I got rid of my Paul's Guitar (SE) primarily because I like satin neck soooo much better and I was NOT going to modify the guitar.
When the silver sky was released I didn’t care for it, my local store had some and I had the chance to play it, fell in love instantly, had to sell a couple of guitars but managed to scrape enough to buy one, still after 3 years I pick it up to time travel, it feels that I’ve played for 5 minutes but it ends up being an hour.
Playing City Love, awesome! Good choice! Amp and guitar sounds great, too!
Had one for a few months. It was a well made strat with less versatile pickups. Spend a bit more and pickup up a use CS Strat.
Even Philip Sayce has started using a Silver Sky lately!
I tried the SE Silver Sky today at GC. It’s a great guitar, the satin finished on the neck is perfect, it is way better than the Fender. Pulse, the switch, tone and volume knobs feels great!! For the tone, the neck position is soooo sweet, and the position 4 is amazing. Honestly for $849 that come with PRS gig bag, is a super great deal!!
I have an SE Silver Sky. I like it. I played it side by side with an equivalent Strat and I like the tone of the Silver Sky better. But as a guitar I like my S2 Custom 24 better than anything else. That gets to the point. It isn’t so much a comparison between Strats, Silver Skys, and other Strat clones, it’s what’s your life partner.
I went into Sam Ash in New York City like a year after the Silver Sky came out to try it out. The neck is fat (obviously). I'm a PRS fanboy. If I ever get a silver sky i''ll go for the Moc Sand.
The best modern take on the "strat" by far is the Ibanez AZ series.
Just looked those up, absolutely stunning guitars
Facts
Without a doubt. Can't wait to get a az42 soon
They’re legit the best if you have more money than a Fender but not enough for a Suhr. I own an AZ and my only issue is the tuning mechanics, but that just takes some getting used to. Other than that, absolutely shreds
Nope ; it’s a copy
I just hate the PRS headstock. Fenders headstocks are cleaner and just look better. I’ve played quite a few PRS guitars up against a American Strat and the Strat always blows my mind. Better comfort, sleeker body, more articulate tone and so on. Nothing beats an American Stratocaster.
Objectively, the Fender has the chunkier body. The horns are fatter, it has a wider waist and the area where the belly and arm carve meet is awkward.
Hmm... looks like a Strat, same body shape, same controls, similar bridge, same scale length and most importantly, sounds just like a Strat. It's a Strat clone, and in my opinion, why get a Strat clone when you can just get a real Strat?
If you think the body shape is the same, I know you haven't actually played a Silver Sky. They're only superficially similar.
This silver sky is like a strat but the way John would like it
Mike, I can truthfully attest that when the SS first came out I was apprehensive on trying it out and giving it a chance. When I finally did in 2019 however, I was hooked. It has since become truly an obsession. Fast forward to 2023 and I have 3 (Hello, I have a problem).
The Silver Sky, for me, became the benchmark to which all other single coil guitars are judged against. And to be objective, there are several boutique makers or manufacturers aside from PRS who knock it out of the park in their own way. For me though, this is the 3 single coil guitar I’ve always wanted. THE sound profile is there (I’ve found differences between Rosewood and Maple, each offer different experiences in sound and feel. Gun to my head I’m taking Maple. I think much attention goes to Rosewood which I also love, but the Maple has just got something else going on). THE feel is there. THE vibe is there. THAT feeling of owning something special, mystic, and unique yet incredibly familiar is there!
I’ve watched that same live stream from Mayer featured in your video probably 30+ times no lie. I’ve watched countless reviews, interviews of PRS or anything to glean more info on this instrument. Why? I feel that this instrument has shaken the market place and has altered the status quo. That makes me want to learn more about it. Whether one feels like this instrument is unique take on an iconic design or an unimaginative strat copy with the wrong headstock is subjective to each individual player and their respective opinion. Not here to change your mind, that’s your journey. But what isn’t subjective is the fact the PRS and JM brought to market a model that competes with instruments 1 -2.5x+ the price. And this is good for us as consumers. While not cheap by any stretch, it is however more attainable financially and arguably by availability than the Mario Martin, Suhr, Fender Custom Shop, Anderson, Exotic, etc. ‘s of the world. It has been a level set to the industry. And players get that much closer to having incredible gear more accessible to them.
Anyway, TL;DR: I have 3, I’m obsessed, and so stoked you have one! Enjoy the journey bud!
I really want a strat-style guitar as my next guitar, and the Silver Sky SE is currently at the top of my list. Got lucky enough to play one at a guitar center when they briefly had one in stock and instantly fell in love
I absolutely love the Silver Skies, but definitely try the Nick Johnston Schecter before you pull the trigger.
Hey Mike, so back to John Mayer, I just can't stand his music and arrogance, BB King almost walked out on him once because he was starting to cross a line you don't cross, but who am I, just an unknown pro musician who does studio work and all I can get. John Mayer was 14 when I recorded my first album (for another band) I recorded all the guitar tracks and the band was not good at all. I prefer Joe B. all the way, even my playing is very similar to Joe's but I got it from Gary Moore, not Joe. Gary Clark Jr is a very good songwriter but an average guitarist. I once heard this statement "You cannot be an exceptional guitarist and an exceptional songwriter at the same time." And it's true, there are about a dozen examples in the world of these exceptional people. Take care. Mike.
Lol what a comment.
“John Mayer is too arrogant”
“Gary Clark Jr is an average guitarist”
“I play like Joey B”
Ok man. Glad you found an outlet for saying nothing.
When he left Fender he said he wanted to do more with a strat that Fender wasn't willing to do. But then I was confused because it was basically exactly the same as a strat.
He took the Strat and took it out of the 60s, 70s nostalgia with a 21st century Tesla/Apple/Leica overhaul, without sacrificing tonal quality. Noone needs tobacco sunbursts and relics in the 2020s.
@@ynkkruse I guess I just don’t see whats so different between a silver sky and american standard
@@ericfritts5994 It's a Strat in only the most basic of ways in that it's a double cut with SSS pickups and a trem. The contours are refined, the fret access is better, the high E isn't ice picky, the tuning is stable and, most importantly, 49/50 of them aren't crap.
‘ Sir, will there be a lefty Silver Sky?’
‘No.’
Guess I’m playing a Fender.’
Thanks John and Paul.
I don't have a Silver Sky for one reason: The Nick Johnston Schecter. Strat-types are a side quest guitar for me, since I'm a metal player primarily. Nick Johnston comes with that humbucker, has a roasted maple neck and that pesky volume knob is away from my pick up. I LOVE the Silver Sky, especially the SE with the lacquered neck, but the NJ fits my strat needs.
Kudos on the guitar Mike. But I have to say the Silver Sky is one of those guitars that just evokes two emotions, you either love it to death, or cannot stand it. I fall in the latter category. I was excited to try both the American made SS and the SEs. I got to try both and I have to tell you, they just both felt sterile. Like someone took a Strat an sucked all the mojo out of it.
I cannot explain what it is either. Just like you I played BOTH of them through a Princeton and there was no spark. Its like I was chatting up the hottest girl around and felt like "Eh. Lets go talk to one of those Strats over there..." >:) So its not like a Popeyes Chicken Sandwich to me...its more like a Mayo sandwich, kinda bland with no spice.
Heres the thing. I played an SE and that Cherry Fender Players Plus Strat you have and I walked out with the Player Plus. I had my hands on a Roxy Pink and I left with an old Fender American Standard. And I LIKE John Mayer. I thought the video release for the SE was KILLER. There is just something about that guitar that puts me off. Its not an "I dont like PRS" thing either because I have a 2006 Swamp Ash Special that I play the hell out of. I honestly think Paul and John just got TOO precious with that guitar. Strats are MEANT to be beat up and played. I mean look at the Black 1 for crying out loud. With the Silver Sky(Especially the Nebula and Lunar Ice)they look more like they should be hanging in a case never to be touched by human hands. They're more like art pieces than guitars.
But I guess thats why I dont own a Two Rock or a Dumble either, I am not that kind of player. Some people probably think playing a SS through a Two Rock is the idea of tone heaven. I will always chose the Princeton RI and a really nice Fender Strat(AVII 61, Clapton, KWS Signature or even the Player Plus Cherry). I will pretty much bet anything if you put ANY of those guitars in John Mayers hands and plugged him into a Princeton RI he would STILL sound like John Mayer. Thats the kicker here. Its not about the guitar. Its about the player.
To me your playing sounds just as AWESOME using your Player Plus....as it did in this video playing the Silver Sky! I cannot say that. The SS made me feel wooden and uninspired while playing it. Grab that Cherry and everything came back to life.
I brought my 2005 Classic Series 50s MIM Stratocaster to the store to A/B the SE and mine. The SE was beautiful and played nice, but I get what you are saying. I did feel my strat just had that soul to it.
I’ve been playing more than 35 years now. And played every guitar out there. It’s a strat!
I can’t believe you compared the guitars to chicken sandwiches.. and I completely understood what you meant. GREAT analogy, and love the breakdown.
(I am a Silver Sky SE user, and also have an American Strat, so I do see a difference for sure!)
So to sum it all up, just get this man a chicken sandwich 😏. And also it doesn't matter if its a Strat its a damn good guitar(you'll see him lean towards playing this guitar more then his others because it plays/feels like a dream watch)
I like those PRS strats.
I love mine. It fixed everything I didn’t enjoy about strats.
Curious, what were the things it fixed on a Strat?
Yes, I agree 100% it's a chicken sandwich guitar. That's the best description of it yet.
I got one! I first had a Fender Strat Original 60s which got cosmetically damaged in shipping - I still tried it out. Later, before I sent it back, I tried a SS at a local guitar shop and the tone just blew me away! I knew it was the one and I took it home that day, and returned the Fender.
Man that's awesome ! Have the same Roxy Pink version !!
Hello mike
The content is so amazing ❤
May i know the name of the mic that you are using for vocal
Silver Sky: I sleep…
Comanche: Real Shit.
IMO
I literally just bought the Roxy pink SS , arriving next Tuesday!
$2600 in 2023... back then it was not yet bidenflation adjusted.
How’s it sound?? You’re playing it, Mike…so it sounds awesome!
I really cannot look at the headstock, still. But I like it overall, I'd love to try one
Sounds good. Plays even better. Such a beautiful guitar. I love the chicken sandwich correlation 😂 well done.
Sounds like a single coil guitar with 25.5 scale length, through an Amplifier with (probably) Jensen speaker type...
Mike should've bought a Firebird
He was right..its not a Strat...it's a Guitar with an ugly Headstock...dont like the Sound either..would prefere every Squier CV over those😂
Man, I could really go for a Spicy Chicken Sandwich after watching this video..
Same for the other prs guitars...they are wonderful but they dont sound as good as gibsons...
Played the original & didn’t like the feel of the neck. I would like to try the SE version though. Apparently, the neck is different. Maybe more modern? I don’t know.
I didn't, cause I'm not gay for Mayer. I got a godin freeway classic... Does the job
Really wish they made the Roxy pink finish with a maple fretboard
Well I really really really really want one but I'm left handed 😂😂😂😂
Dude, this guitar is sick! Congrats! But really, I wish I could see you playing Bold as Love dirty like Matthew Scott!
Its my goal to one day have pink SS
2023...in my guitar store still no silver sky available
Ooh, I like pink guitars!! *subscribes*
Guitarists need to calm down with John Mayer man crushes
Guys, I think he’s hungry😂
Edit: someone get this guy a sandwich
Kudos to you! I'm obviously doing the wrong thing with my channel lol Seriously cool content! 👏😎
He is right, a Stratocaster is a protected trademark from Fender. But for the rest....
Aight here’s my $2 (adjusted for inflation). Strats sound better. PRS has the Ibanez problem which is: beautiful guitar, I wanna love it, but the tone lacks soul. Too round in my opinion. All PRS are too round. All Ibanez sound like a video game guitar. Robotic or something. Only hot takes here
The Silver Sky is great. But the idea that’s some kind of revolutionary modern take on the Strat is all marketing bullshit.
I think I appreciate the guitar for what it is, why it was created and who it is aimed at. Does it sound good? Yes. Does it look good? Yes.
Will I buy one? The cacophony of Mayer fanboys waxing lyrical about how much closer they can get to THE MAYER TONE just turns me off. Too much "Gayer for Mayer" artist association for my money.
PS - no issues with gay people; just using a term popularised by the Andertons folks.
Dude, you are hysterical. A chicken sandwich with a bone nut. Come on.
I loved my SS till I played a Modern Eagle then couldn't go back. Both great guitars but with limited time I had to pick.
Don’t lie!!!! You got pink because you got it from sweat water and that’s the only color they’ve consistently had in stock for months
"to me...theyre both chicken sandwiches"
Prs makes amazing guitars , but these are horrible , why ?
I really want a Popeyes chicken sandwich now. I’d like to try a silver sky now too, I have not liked other PRS models (not bad guitars, just not for me) but now I am wondering what I’d think of a silver sky
If it ain't Hello Kitty, it shouldn't be painted pink!! Gospel truth...lolz, jkjk, to be completely honest, there was a day not long ago I thought I didn't like any gold top guitars, then I saw a paisley-laiden sparkle gold strat with a black burst, and omg, it probably sounds hoakey, but motherf***** it was beautiful! Context is everything! Gold and pink have been pretty meh for me in my guitar journey, glad you like the pink tho :) but I'm sure one day I'll see an exceptional pink guitar i actually like. Will I buy it? Mmm, I need a purple, a green, a yellow, red, white and silverbust guitar first to scratch all my color choice itches before I go pink...I only have orangeish bursts, black, a black and gray burst, and a blue bass. I need more color options for my tones!!! Hehe...😂
Bruh I see you in this channel as being like the “fine wine” of guitar critics. Call it cliché in whichever way you choose, but say like one of the top food critics in a 3 star restaurant in France. How their insight and opinion inspires growth or perhaps an accurate point of view for noticeable change in gear/equipment etc for the general public. This being said you’re definitely setting the bar for a new type of media influence that can grow into a fresh career when done properly. Keep tryin fine wines an giving us your time. Its highly appreciated.
Totally agree. What I really appreciate about Mike is that he always declares his taste and what he gravitates towards so that you can always take his opinions within the right context. That sort of transparency is not only a great way to connect to your audience, but also allows a consumer to make a more informed decision.
Oh, it’s a Strat, all right. Give me a break. Just because Mayer gave it his ‘blessing’ and farted on it doesn’t make it ‘its own thing’ in any way, shape, or form.
I think it sounds lovely...glassy highs instead of bell chiming highs...not spanky like a fender and ultimately not as good as a fender...maybe in 50 years time when a million songs have been recorded on it but fender just has the sound....end of really
They look Fenderish if you squint but the feel is all PRS..
True statement, especially the neck.
I think the chicken sandwhich was invented about 2 minutes after a caveman discovered the first chicken. 🐔
I’ve never bought a guitar that wasn’t pink
I just can’t get past the bird inlays on PRS guitars. I really dislike those inlays and the Tony the Tiger stripped Maple Tops. I’ll always be a Gibson and Fender Custom Shop guy. If you want to play the best S or T style guitar you’ll ever try, get a high end LSL Instruments Strat or Tele.