Is Civilization: Beyond Earth the Best Civ Game?

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  • @AChamber
    @AChamber ปีที่แล้ว +3734

    There are no winners when we play games with Vale, only losers.

    • @ariustemod8481
      @ariustemod8481 ปีที่แล้ว +50

      I don't know the shire and its mind flower at least got a victory screen

    • @алексейвышкин
      @алексейвышкин ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Vale not every time plays with you and he gets ad revenue. So there is a winner

    • @livedandletdie
      @livedandletdie ปีที่แล้ว +14

      There are no winners when you play Beyond Earth, only losers, Valefisk has nothing to do with it in this case.
      The game is torturous on it's own... Vale has nothing on this game.

    • @алексейвышкин
      @алексейвышкин ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@livedandletdie sadism is a win by itself

    • @xhshdd7113
      @xhshdd7113 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I was about to say the viewers win, but no

  • @thespiffingbrit
    @thespiffingbrit ปีที่แล้ว +3084

    *Ok now try speed running the game.*
    I hear the speedruning community of beyond earth is great this time of year

    • @owomen5863
      @owomen5863 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      The spiffing brit comments with no reply ?

    • @YerpyMoose
      @YerpyMoose ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Speedrunning, or marathon with a five second turn timer?

    • @g_raffthearchlich
      @g_raffthearchlich ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Only four comments now?

    • @pochiluis0570
      @pochiluis0570 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      You may said… they are “beyond earth”

    • @benhamster
      @benhamster ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The sixth comment is made. Hail Yorkshire tea.

  • @ariustemod8481
    @ariustemod8481 ปีที่แล้ว +5277

    I think what makes this experience even more painful is how much of the tech tree went unused, tons of units and buildings non of us made because we didn't want to be there and the victory condition is easily rushable

    • @cybersaiyan9596
      @cybersaiyan9596 ปีที่แล้ว +261

      the first time playing the game, i was super confused on the victory conditions, got super bored, and just quit.

    • @RazorsharpLT
      @RazorsharpLT ปีที่แล้ว +61

      @@cybersaiyan9596 Yeah, i actually played it first time multiplayer
      We got bored really quick, quit, and never returned.

    • @AvishaiGreenstein
      @AvishaiGreenstein ปีที่แล้ว +83

      Tech webs and multiple tech trees always seem cool on paper but never work.

    • @cybersaiyan9596
      @cybersaiyan9596 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      @@AvishaiGreenstein i mean, the culture tree works.

    • @Solus749
      @Solus749 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      you are not supposed to get the full tree...that is the entire point of it. To mix it up between games.

  • @PotatoMcWhiskey
    @PotatoMcWhiskey ปีที่แล้ว +7365

    I've tried to make videos on this game many times and tbh it is always too painful to get through, god speed.

    • @DoubleTrouble-li5wi
      @DoubleTrouble-li5wi ปีที่แล้ว +243

      You should do a multiplayer game of this. The suffering would be delicious. Also, surely it can't be as painful as the Canadian Desert game you did?

    • @MasonBially
      @MasonBially ปีที่แล้ว +294

      I... I actually like this game.

    • @christophermurphree2315
      @christophermurphree2315 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      There are some great mods for it you could try out to make it easier

    • @benferris6472
      @benferris6472 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      As soon as i saw your channel i had to click on to see if your irish i was right, (: 🇮🇪

    • @giaxo1739
      @giaxo1739 ปีที่แล้ว +45

      @@MasonBially I do as well! And the modding community is great.

  • @LazerShark7777
    @LazerShark7777 ปีที่แล้ว +2430

    *moves a unit
    “This will effect the economy of REACH CITY”

  • @unofficial_computer
    @unofficial_computer ปีที่แล้ว +942

    Whoever that was defending their city against constant bug attacks was basically playing Starship Troopers.

    • @astranix0198
      @astranix0198 ปีที่แล้ว +55

      Or Starcraft Zerg Rush.

    • @realah3001
      @realah3001 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ew s*rtrd

    • @gatordragon6140
      @gatordragon6140 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Nids come to attack on titan

    • @realah3001
      @realah3001 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Or just any ra2 surv map

  • @Skydragonace
    @Skydragonace ปีที่แล้ว +2554

    So, for real, this game was actually a lot of fun and had so much potential. It's actually such a shame that it was abandoned by the developers so suddenly, because with some work, this had the potential to be one of the best civ games made in a long time.

    • @housewilma4904
      @housewilma4904 ปีที่แล้ว +290

      well when everyons reaction 'REEEEEEEEEEEEE I HATE IT" no matter what they do what else did ya expect.
      i wish people gave it chance and played as its own game instead expecting alpha centaur remake or a civ game with a sci fi skin.
      its geuinely a great game but its good for the roleplay and choice and events.

    • @ecogreen123
      @ecogreen123 ปีที่แล้ว +189

      @@housewilma4904 as someone who gave it a chance, a minor 179 hours, i love beyond earth and i kinda prefer it over civ 6.

    • @housewilma4904
      @housewilma4904 ปีที่แล้ว +45

      @@ecogreen123 same hear.
      though civ 6 is still my third favourite with its plague and red death and other similar unique modes.

    • @ecogreen123
      @ecogreen123 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      @@housewilma4904 that's understandable. civ 6 is just ranked #2 for me personally.

    • @housewilma4904
      @housewilma4904 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      ​@@ecogreen123 alpha centauri is my number 1 its technially not a civ series game on that note i recommed age of wonders planet fall.
      its alot like beyond earth but faster and its new empire mode lets you connect your past saves and build a "empire" which is quite cool.

  • @captainstroon1555
    @captainstroon1555 ปีที่แล้ว +803

    As Beyond Earth was my first ever Civ, I didn't have any expectations going into it and actually quite enjoy it. The affinity system resulting in diverging tech trees is really neat.

    • @TopHatHat
      @TopHatHat ปีที่แล้ว +95

      The affinity system is perhaps one of the few elements of this game I actually enjoy and perhaps think the mainstream civ games might benefit from.

    • @SHDUStudios
      @SHDUStudios ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Same here.

    • @go-away-5555
      @go-away-5555 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      It had some fantastic ideas. Also the AI was much better than other civs (eveb civ 6)

    • @fonzymaningat2324
      @fonzymaningat2324 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      It's actually quite sad that many don't like Beyond Earth because for me it was the opposite. I remember wanting to play this game so bad when I first discovered it in 2016 and last year I finally had my chance to play it. Also, it was Rising Tide which made the game more interesting unit wise because instead of only three affinities you now have six, not to mention, their designs are cool as well. However, when I compare CivB to Civ5, Civ B is a bit plain and boring. Especially in the early stages of the game, you have to go into the middle stages for things to get interesting. But in my case I did not care as much because all I wanted is to play the hybrid units and go to war as soon as possible. I had a fun time until I had to delete it because it gave my computer a virus of some sort. Hehe.

    • @fonzymaningat2324
      @fonzymaningat2324 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@go-away-5555 Agreed. My first "retire" in the game was because two of the AI was about to fuck me up so good because I did not have the minimum military to be considered threatening.

  • @skipperxiv9401
    @skipperxiv9401 ปีที่แล้ว +1759

    I don't think Beyond Earth was bad, but it's very different and is quite a departure from Civ 5 and Alpha Centauri so I understand why it didn't get much attention. Kind of a shame cause with a second expansion and some performance fixes it could have been a really fun, unique Civ experience.

    • @Jsay18
      @Jsay18 ปีที่แล้ว +99

      It's "Characters" aren't. They simply are not the equal to Alpha Centauri's Leader Cast, which is why people like that game still, along with the diplomacy and unit design.

    • @skipperxiv9401
      @skipperxiv9401 ปีที่แล้ว +79

      @@Jsay18 I haven't played Alpha Centauri to be honest but I can definitely see how the leaders in this game are pretty lackluster, even in comparison to 5 or 6. Diplomacy is also really weird but I do like the unit system in this game.

    • @Zergking100
      @Zergking100 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Jsay18 Nothing can compare to the glorious
      schizophrenia of Alpha Centarui's leaders.

    • @hitomisalazar4073
      @hitomisalazar4073 ปีที่แล้ว +90

      I agree it's not bad... it's just that Alpha Centauri itself was a very poor thing to market i as a comparison to. Alpha Centauri was a lot more engaging with everything from how the tech unfolded to how the victory conditions formed up (Hell my first victory in it was cornering the global energy market).
      It's not that Beyond Earth is bad... it's just bad in comparison. And I think it kind of suffered from the meme status of everyone crapping on it at first and that's all that anyone really remembers of it. Particularly because of the hype and expectations of a "better" Alpha-Centauri. Kind of the same trap that games from No Man's Sky to Mass Effect 3 fell into of highly unrealistic expectations.
      Beyond Earth has issues. I dislike for example the lack of "build a unit" style stuff from Alpha Centauri. I do like that Psychic Combat was dropped (and how stupidly OP it was in Alpha Centauri). I dislike how... random that the Victory conditions feel. I don't really feel like I'm building up towards things until I just get an update saying "You can win via...". As opposed to Alpha Centauri where the victory conditions were built up over the game. With the techs you learned having their little bits talking about and teasing the paths. Like the awakening of psychic potential and harmony with the planet's hivemind or discovering practical immortality and a new age of insanely wealthy oligarchs that would make the robber barons of the 19th century blush in shame at their opulence.
      But the game itself? I found it "okay". I liked some concepts that could have been done better. I liked some of the struggles and progression from "holy shit aliens run!" to being able to handle them (Much better than say the Barbarians in Civ 5 which start as something easily handled and basically disappear entirely as a threat by the midgame). It wasn't horrible like it's played up... it however was nowhere near what people expected from Alpha-Centauri "spiritual successor".

    • @Jsay18
      @Jsay18 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@skipperxiv9401 Look up MandaloreGaming's Video on Alpha Centauri for a ROUGH examination.

  • @deeznoots6241
    @deeznoots6241 ปีที่แล้ว +124

    “These aliens seem easy to kill” - Vale, completely clueless about the Aliens aggression system in the game

  • @overlord_cloudread
    @overlord_cloudread ปีที่แล้ว +991

    This entire video is enlightening.
    I enjoyed Beyond Earth, and would have happily played it multiplayer.

    • @ecogreen123
      @ecogreen123 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      agreed

    • @benleatherdale396
      @benleatherdale396 ปีที่แล้ว +62

      Same I was like I thought it was a good game

    • @MasonBially
      @MasonBially ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Same here.

    • @alicestolze8327
      @alicestolze8327 ปีที่แล้ว +61

      THANK YOU Vale was out here gaslighting me into thinking I was the only person who enjoyed BE

    • @ecogreen123
      @ecogreen123 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      @@alicestolze8327 let me tell ya, it's pretty mixed 59% positive reviews overall and 79% positive reviews recently. so generally it's mixed but recently it's a bit more positive.

  • @Silverfishv9
    @Silverfishv9 ปีที่แล้ว +748

    I still think elements like the Orbital Layer, Ocean Cities (from the DLC), the dynamic interactions with aliens, and the quest system should have made it into Civ VI. There were really cool ideas here that never got to reach their full potential since Firaxis scrapped everything.

    • @Nukestarmaster
      @Nukestarmaster ปีที่แล้ว +78

      The quest system was also in Civ IV. I don't know why they removed it for V. But BE had so many innovative ideas and - frankly - had better execution than 6.

    • @maciejbala477
      @maciejbala477 ปีที่แล้ว +40

      @@Nukestarmaster they unnecessarily removed quite a few perfectly working mechanics from Civ IV in Civ V. Never understood it and honestly made me never want to play the game again and just stuck to IV to this day. Don't get why people take a popular franchise, then change it so much that the elements on which its build on and make it worse.

    • @calebweldon8102
      @calebweldon8102 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Yea the orbital layer is so cool

    • @araaraaura1887
      @araaraaura1887 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Orbital and ocean layers were awesome in the Civ Call to Power series.

  • @Virtrial
    @Virtrial ปีที่แล้ว +183

    How could they remove our ability to spam notification noise in the lobby chat? DAMN YOU SID MYANMAR

    • @Pseudoplasmagore
      @Pseudoplasmagore ปีที่แล้ว +1

      *Meier

    • @Virtrial
      @Virtrial ปีที่แล้ว +18

      @@Pseudoplasmagore you clearly don't get the reference

  • @mortimershiflett7115
    @mortimershiflett7115 ปีที่แล้ว +635

    In middle school I was deep in the civ byeond earth hype train. I counted down everyday until its release, starting at least 50 days before. The last class of everyday was just me dreaming about playing the game, and annoying my friends as we walked back from school by updating them on the countdown.
    When the game came out and I was at least 10 hours in, it finally sunk in that it was just an incomplete civ v with a wacky paintjob, and that this was the payoff for my multi-week countdown.
    Civ Beyond Earth was so traumatically underwhelming that I have never been able to get on a game hype train ever again.

    • @ArcNine9Angel
      @ArcNine9Angel ปีที่แล้ว +43

      Have you considered trying Alpha Centauri? If you can placate the oddness of dated graphics and interface, the depth of the game still holds up!
      Okay I wrote this before starting the video, I'm sorry. xD I grew up with it thanks to my dad and it's very dear to my heart.

    • @CantusTropus
      @CantusTropus ปีที่แล้ว +59

      On the plus side, it taught you a valuable lesson in avoiding hype trains.

    • @mortimershiflett7115
      @mortimershiflett7115 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      @@ArcNine9Angel I did try Alpha Centauri about a year ago. Yeah, it is a lot more difficult to get into but a great joy when it pays off and the world changes and reacts to your decisions. All the wonders, technologies, leaders, even the planet itself, are so much more interesting in Alpha Centauri. I just have to get used to the controls and unit stacking.

    • @maciejbala477
      @maciejbala477 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Damn, I got scarred by trying Civ V on release (I've heard it's now good, but after the bad experience from launch day I never really want to try it again... so I never moved past Civ IV), so can't imagine what an incomplete version must be like. But yeah, seems Civ V was the same to me as Beyond Earth seems to be to you. I got hyped for it before and it was thoroughly underwhelming. This and Heroes of Might and Magic VI killed all my hype for games, until this day lol. Barely even try new ones. I just wanted to say I understand this feeling of being really let down by a game you were very hyped for, and since it's worse than Civ V in your description, your experience must have been even worse.

    • @gideonmele1556
      @gideonmele1556 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      All who hop aboard the hype train inevitably get dropkicked off. Where you get kicked off and into what varies but we all feel your pain… and still some broken ribs

  • @pacman1682
    @pacman1682 ปีที่แล้ว +247

    No, the harmony soldier upgrade that does flat percentage damage to those around it is just broken against any other affinity, production and affinity upgrades are pretty unbalanced and not something you can deal with if you're slightly behind

    • @minhducnguyen9276
      @minhducnguyen9276 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Yeah. I used to think Supremacy stackable bonus is stronger but somehow the Harmony units just plough through them like nothing even when it's just a single tank and soldiers cause too much damage before going down.

    • @jaeusa160
      @jaeusa160 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Yeah lol, to say this game has balance issues would be to implying this game is more balanced than it is. Nothing mods can't fix I'm sure though.

    • @robertblume2951
      @robertblume2951 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Generally my purity soldiers are buzzsawing through the enemy. When are you just standing next to somebody?

    • @pacman1682
      @pacman1682 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@robertblume2951 Not sure what you mean, the harmony soldier have an upgrade which does percentage damage regardless of power, and the soldiers can just suicide into your units. The issue is if behind in production for whatever reason whether it be skill issue or a bad spawn, a harmony player at late game can just win by production in most of my experiences.

    • @thornels
      @thornels ปีที่แล้ว

      🤓

  • @obviouscadillac9493
    @obviouscadillac9493 ปีที่แล้ว +550

    I genuinely cannot believe this. I've been watching this man the WHOLE DAY, my stomach HURTS from laughing and when I'm finally done he uploads! Literally trying to kill me with all these videos, man.

  • @Duckst3p
    @Duckst3p ปีที่แล้ว +79

    I remember grinding out (almost) all achievements in this game, the only one I never got was PLAY A MULTIPLAYER GAME

  • @christater5540
    @christater5540 ปีที่แล้ว +273

    This kind of makes me want to see you guys play Alpha Centauri, but through Play by Email where everyone has to scrutinize what changed between turns

    • @dynamo8846
      @dynamo8846 ปีที่แล้ว

      fuck that to the greatest degree

    • @PointsofData
      @PointsofData ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Oh god

    • @YerpyMoose
      @YerpyMoose ปีที่แล้ว +26

      ah, the nostalgia of play-by-post

  • @LAZERAK47V2
    @LAZERAK47V2 ปีที่แล้ว +84

    Civ BE is a tragic tale of missed potential.
    They had so many good ideas but just couldn't execute them properly and then abandoned it for Civ VI.
    This game just makes me sad.

  • @creeker2017
    @creeker2017 ปีที่แล้ว +80

    The most painful part of this experience is finding out Vale is the only one who saw Starship Troopers

  • @thymedfire
    @thymedfire ปีที่แล้ว +65

    I think it says a lot about this game that I, who grew up playing Civ alongside a father who loved the Civ games, have literally never heard of it until this video showed up on my feed. Like fully I did not know this existed, and a sci-fi Civ game would have been right up our alleys.

    • @ArcNine9Angel
      @ArcNine9Angel ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Hey fellow Civ-enjoyer! My dad is the reason I learned Alpha Centauri and Civ, it really is a shame more wasn't done with BE....

    • @montypython5521
      @montypython5521 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      it says that you stopped playing civ games for a while

    • @robertblume2951
      @robertblume2951 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@montypython5521 nah. I wouldn't have heard of it if my wife didn't buy the game for me either. I never moved from 3 to 4 and 4 to 5 would just play mods like the Rod and Dragon for 3 or other things. And didn't follow game development. I still haven't played 6 and when I get a civ itch I just load up be or colonization. Frankly yalls dissing 6 makes me think 3 and be should be fine with me forever.

    • @GodwynDi
      @GodwynDi 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

      It was a good game too. I enjoyed it more than Civ VI by a lot.

  • @alexl0923
    @alexl0923 ปีที่แล้ว +103

    BE was my first Civ game and i thoroughly enjoyed it - the DLC definitely makes it better.

    • @syahmikadira6832
      @syahmikadira6832 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Yup same here as well. Got to play it during a free weekend & thought it was fun so I bought Civ5 but I never looked back at Beyond Earth

    • @approximateCognition
      @approximateCognition ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Oceans actually being interesting+ hybrid affinities are fun

  • @fritzophrenia3146
    @fritzophrenia3146 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    22:22
    Gladly serving my tour of duty outside the fence to get a turn in the estrogen pod

  • @ARCADEkid55
    @ARCADEkid55 ปีที่แล้ว +153

    The Codex mod for this game actually makes it one of my fav civ games. If you've never tried it you should check it out.

    • @leonodonoghueburke4276
      @leonodonoghueburke4276 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      I loved that mod, but I think the quests break after a while. Also in my game I think the ai had trouble with the new resource system.

    • @Sigskogi
      @Sigskogi ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Ah, another Chad Codex enjoyer

  • @Mini1124
    @Mini1124 ปีที่แล้ว +136

    There's a lot of really cool aspects in Beyond Earth, but absolutely nothing feels fleshed out. I really liked the ocean and building mechanics, as well as being able to choose how you interacted with the alien life (being xenophobic, friendly, or neutral) via techs and culture. If they took another year or two on this game I think it would be absolutely fantastic.

    • @korriganmarsh6934
      @korriganmarsh6934 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I played it a while ago and it was cool as hell, but yeah lacking a lot. I didn’t know they scrapped it, shame

    • @heartysquid
      @heartysquid 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Good ideas, poor execution.
      Like the beginning of Skyrim 😂

  • @samwill7259
    @samwill7259 ปีที่แล้ว +193

    When your game has gotten to the point where Valefisk can just...play it straight.
    Terrifying

  • @No-uc6fg
    @No-uc6fg ปีที่แล้ว +168

    Beyond Earth was a disappointment cause the leaders are completely one dimensional, no personality, since they have to reflect you going towards any of the 3 paths. Alpha Centauri's characters had soul, the planet itself was an antagonist, even the leaders you could empathize with the least had a point or two that made a lot of sense, such as Sister Miriam's "we must dissent" point when you built the auto managing cities project.

    • @ecogreen123
      @ecogreen123 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      skill issue

    • @jaydenshepard7928
      @jaydenshepard7928 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Didnt see anyone else making a better game at the time in the same theme, believe me I looked. The best one was Beyond Earth.

    • @Nukestarmaster
      @Nukestarmaster ปีที่แล้ว +26

      It's not like the leaders have much personality in other Civ games. In fact, I would say that BE has more personalities in its leaders than Civ V.

    • @Graknorke
      @Graknorke ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@jaydenshepard7928
      ...ok? it's still worse than SMAC though so who cares

    • @jaydenshepard7928
      @jaydenshepard7928 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@Graknorke Ok? So go play that old game then and stop crying about a newer game that never said it was trying to replace that one. SMAC isnt even a civilization game, two different franchises at work here. They were doing something like it, not making a direct sequel.

  • @Ryggy
    @Ryggy ปีที่แล้ว +23

    As someone who has lived near Jimboomba seeing it in a video game is like a fever dream. I dont think words can express what this feels like. It's such an irrelevant place, it's like naming your child after your postman's cousin.

    • @ryanpetfield8880
      @ryanpetfield8880 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Same I live near Jimboomba. It's so weird hearing it in a game.

  • @bmg50barrett74
    @bmg50barrett74 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    "I came, I saw, delicioso"
    -Dora, 1682 on the eve of her victory over Russia

  • @travismoore7849
    @travismoore7849 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The mods that let you build coral, and adjust coral stats, and work mountains along with marine domes and colonize water would be great for a mostly water world game.

  • @Ed-1749
    @Ed-1749 ปีที่แล้ว +72

    Vale was the real hero here, defending the rest against the hordes of bugs. Literally the starship trooper.

  • @dragonswrath1890
    @dragonswrath1890 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    I honestly don’t think civ beyond earth is bad. It’s just different from other civ games. Some of the concepts are good and I liked the different paths you could go.

    • @Graknorke
      @Graknorke ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I think the problem is actually it's too much like other Civ games (V specifically). it's the raw mechanics with the pseudohistorical flavor stripped away and that doesn't leave you with much compelling at all

  • @hades_head_empty
    @hades_head_empty ปีที่แล้ว +44

    i just realized that d&d or something similar would be a great way to torture your friends. i'd love to see your chaos unleashed in a combat lethal one shot or something like that.
    (also i just want more ttrpg content, i'm slowly running out)

    • @jaydenshepard7928
      @jaydenshepard7928 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      You’ve run out of DnD content on youtube? How is that even possible?

    • @jkl5901
      @jkl5901 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Send Valefisk a copy of the tomb of horrors

    • @redcrown5154
      @redcrown5154 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      mental ill pfp

    • @Astar24653
      @Astar24653 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      To torture dnd players all you need is a book of puzzles for middleschoolers and youre good

    • @hades_head_empty
      @hades_head_empty ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jaydenshepard7928 not yet, but soon. i'm caught up on all of my favorites and the new ones i've found have been very hit or miss

  • @Nukestarmaster
    @Nukestarmaster ปีที่แล้ว +31

    Civ: BE isn't that bad. The big problem with it is that everyone was expecting Alpha Centuri, and BE is not Alpha Centuri.

    • @theinsanegamergeek
      @theinsanegamergeek ปีที่แล้ว +8

      It's pretty bad. The research system is a byzantine mess, the textures are muddy and bland, the aliens are total BS, and the factions all feel the same and are put to shame by the variety from the first civ 20 years prior. It's nowhere near as engaging as civ V was, and thats really saying something.

    • @Nukestarmaster
      @Nukestarmaster ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@theinsanegamergeek The only thing I agree with you on is the textures.

  • @loah_1
    @loah_1 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    This video had the opposite effect of the intent; i actually redownloaded it because I enjoyed it a lot when I first played it. Thanks Vale!

  • @grandengineernathan
    @grandengineernathan ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It is just civ 5 but with some dlc coming for free. I love this civ game because you can just customize your civ more at the beginning and later in the game with every building having a decision

  • @nicorozner7417
    @nicorozner7417 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Day 874
    Another expedition left yesterday evening. They saw a gap in the xenos, thought they might make it through. We haven't heard back from them since they went over the horizon. Nobody had to ask what happened to them, we'd all seen it before. One time, two months ago, the colony vehicle barely made it a few meters from the fence before the Manticores were on it. We barely got the fence back up before they could get in.
    That goddamn fence.
    On the one hand, it's the only thing keeping the tide of xenos from eating REACH CITY alive. I guess we've got that to be grateful for. But on the other hand, I'd almost prefer that.
    Those xenos, they're always wandering about just outside the fence, watching us with curious, or angry, or hungry eyes. Any breakout attempt ends up with hundreds dead and nothing to show for it. We're trapped in a little pen. Prisoners of this stupid godforsaken planet. I'm meant to guard this fence, but really, who's guarding who? Because I feel like a zoo animal in here.
    Sometimes I wonder what's out there, beyond the horizon. Nobody's lived long enough to see most of the planet. Even our jets can only get so far beyond the fence before something swats them down. We have no idea what. I feel like there's gotta be somewhere nicer out there, somewhere with less xenos, and no fence. Sure, I'd die before I made it fifty meters out there. But I'd see something before I bit the dust. Something new, something exciting, maybe even something nicer. Maybe that would make it all worth it.
    -Journal of PFC Kim Chen, PACMC

  • @xdarin_
    @xdarin_ ปีที่แล้ว +2

    "I hate the chat noise so much, it's so loud"
    *_The entire lobby knew what to do._*

  • @yoshilovesyoshi
    @yoshilovesyoshi ปีที่แล้ว +48

    When I look at it, it could've honestly been a Civ 5 DLC scenario. I would've played that game, I would've spent money on that. Cuz when you get a science victory in Civ 5, it asks you if you want to "go beyond earth." Man I thought that was so so cool...

    • @thenorthshow3655
      @thenorthshow3655 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      That option was added so you could buy the game

    • @thenorthshow3655
      @thenorthshow3655 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

      That option was added so you could buy the game

  • @WrathOfMega
    @WrathOfMega ปีที่แล้ว +182

    BE actually might be one of my favorite Civ games. I guess that shows just how much of a sucker I am for sci-fi. I really hope they do make an attempt at some kind of BE 2.
    I think the people at Firaxis were really crushed by the reception. While the writing around the factions and leaders was bland or underdeveloped, you can tell they put a lot of thought and effort into a lot of the writing and I think they were genuinely proud of what they made right up until the game launched.
    Ultimately I think the game comes off wrong for a lot of the same reasons people don't find science fiction interesting. It's just too... Rationalist. There is all of this thought into the science and all the cool and elaborate machinery, but far too little of the messy, squishy, and eccentric human bits. This is why people compare BE unfavorably to Alpha Centauri, which is full of megalomaniacal supervillainy and mad scientists. In AC it just feels more like people are actually enjoying being alive.

    • @Nukestarmaster
      @Nukestarmaster ปีที่แล้ว +33

      Honestly, I feel like BE was never given a fair chance due to people obsessively comparing it to Alpha Centuri and not letting it be its own game.

    • @zephyr8072
      @zephyr8072 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      I disagree that there was much thought put into it at all. The setting was bland and cookie cutter and all the factions were utterly generic and boring.
      The static portraits of Alpha Centauri had 1000 times the personality of anything in Beyond Earth.
      You had diamond tycoons investing their money into a tech giant. Amoral scientists. Religious zealots. Military hardliners. All with their own deep backgrounds and stories.
      In Beyond Earth you had Africa but in space! Europe but in space! America but in space! It was so utterly, _utterly_ banal the only way I could stand playing it was by making a modded faction.
      One example of how thoughtless, meandering and lazy the plot and setting was - one of the ways you "win" is by opening a portal to earth and getting more colonists in.
      Colonists who don't join your cities. And how exactly getting a bunch of useless earthlings to cross over and take up land counts as any sort of victory is never explained.
      Furthermore if they didn't want to be compared unfavourably to Alpha Centauri, they shouldn't have tried to make a spiritual successor to Alpha Centauri with less than half the effort.

    • @TopHatHat
      @TopHatHat ปีที่แล้ว +18

      @@Nukestarmaster If your game is marketed as a successor to a game, takes mechanics from that game or builds upon it, I think its very legitimate to compare. It can't "Be its own game" because its not its own game, its a successor to Alpha Centauri. Its like comparing the newer reboot XCOM games to the old ones, the overall gameplay is different, but it improved massively on the original hence very successful.
      I hate games with outdated graphics, the only exemption I have ever had in my lifetime is Alpha Centauri, it is honestly that good.

    • @nejkajaryba1710
      @nejkajaryba1710 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I still remember many quotes from wonders, technologies and affinity upgrades...

    • @matheusGMN
      @matheusGMN ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@zephyr8072 well, it is, you just never payed attention, in the game you left earth in the first place because it's becoming unihabitable, so some of the endings reflect just that, the ending you're talking about is the evacuation of Earth, the purity ending, you win because you did the objective of the mission in the first place, and since humans are the "pure stuff" them bringing everyone left on Earth is a good thing(like a promised land), there is another ending in which you invade earth because it's a faction that believes they achieved emancipation or whatever from the flesh, and it lacked on earth, and they were going to bring it back, there is some story, but I guess people never bothered to read/pay atention to it

  • @PerfectZeroMusic_
    @PerfectZeroMusic_ ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Great! Now make this into a shorts video and have it ACTUALLY end on "NO" (0:06) XD

  • @baconzeon9843
    @baconzeon9843 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    do another game of this with DLC its more fun that way.

  • @awsomesaucekirby
    @awsomesaucekirby ปีที่แล้ว +44

    I like beyond earth.
    I like the units and affinity trees

  • @ComDenox
    @ComDenox ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Technically the first 10 seconds were not clickbait. The opposite of 50% of TH-cam.

  • @l0lLorenzol0l
    @l0lLorenzol0l ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Such a shame Beyond Earth fell so flat. It had such potential.

  • @antoncabotta5364
    @antoncabotta5364 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I like the idea that REACH CITY would be written in capital letters in every written record in that universe

  • @EonHSD
    @EonHSD 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I’m a huge Sci-Fi nerd and feel in love with Civ BE ever since I saw the trailers at Gamescom. It was my first Civ and the only one to date I’ve ever played so I don’t see any issue so far lol. I’m scared of what happens when I play Civ 6 tho…

  • @justindieterich1773
    @justindieterich1773 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Ah Valefisk, the living embodiment of “who’s more foolish? The fool or the one who follows him?”

  • @abusedumpster8882
    @abusedumpster8882 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Im fairly certain I'm the only person in the world who enjoyed Beyond Earth despite its flaws.

  • @CommissarMitch
    @CommissarMitch ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I used to love this back in the day.
    Sad it fell so short.

  • @L_Withers
    @L_Withers ปีที่แล้ว +19

    So am I the only person that actually enjoys Civ:Beyond? Ok so maybe it is just that I am a sucker for all things space, but I really enjoy it!

  • @thebighurt2495
    @thebighurt2495 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Alpha Centauri will always be the best sci-fi Turn-Based strategy game I've ever played. The mechanics were pretty good, but what sold it to me was the characters and setting.

  • @mrwri
    @mrwri ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I actually like this game. 😺

  • @Rannos22
    @Rannos22 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    Thank God, it's a Christmas miracle!
    More valefisk!

  • @moredac2881
    @moredac2881 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I genuinely loved this game when it came out and I was 14 years old.
    I had no standards

  • @22_solo
    @22_solo 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Man this is the first civ game I played because that was the time my father gave me my own pc and tbh I loved it as my first and then after civ 6 came out I moved to it and still play civ games from time to time

    • @reepusvanguard
      @reepusvanguard หลายเดือนก่อน

      Play Civ 5 its so much better

  • @jujito69
    @jujito69 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    I love this game, i play with dlcs and i love how the ocean looks, the idea of floating cities, and above the tec tree i love how the cities and units evolve with your civ ideologi like supremacy or adapatation. I also apreciate the atention to detail in the farms, the microsubmarine when you do a subacuatic excavation, etc

  • @sugoistalin7809
    @sugoistalin7809 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    If they didn't market it as the successor of alpha centuries, it would've been fine.

  • @joejoemyo
    @joejoemyo ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Civ is fun because you advance through the eras. Going from sci-fi high tech to sci-fi high tech with some limited resources isn't very engaging

    • @GabiN64
      @GabiN64 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      And yet ppl enjoyed alpha centauri

    • @Matthy63
      @Matthy63 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@GabiN64the big difference is the leaders I think.
      Some of the world building BE is doing eg in the tech epigraphs does point to similar canon personalities, but it doesn't own it nearly as much as SMAC so you literally end up with space France, space Australia, space Russia, space China. There is lore, and it is really interesting, but it 100% doesn't matter to gameplay.
      With SMAC it was like, why yes, Space Enya would try to talk to the mind worms and unleash them on the other humans. Black Elon would be a soulless corporate shill but an actually self aware one. UN guy WOULD want to clone his dead wife like a complete creepo. They told a compelling story with a fraction of the budget.
      The expansion with aliens was confusing and weird though, imo the story works better with just the humans tearing each other up and the planet fucking with them but not like, Oh and also there's some More Aliens.

  • @KingDerpy13
    @KingDerpy13 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Everyone was playing a normal game of Civ.
    Temod was playing fucking Starship Troopers.

  • @Akehiko_Urabaya
    @Akehiko_Urabaya ปีที่แล้ว +4

    It was the only civ game with a dedicated diplomatic “fuck off, but not in a war way” button
    It’s better than 6 but 5 will always stay the true king

  • @purpledevilr7463
    @purpledevilr7463 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I like to use advanced starts and a mod that allows me to have only 1 civ.
    Make a fungal world, Indian protectorate, harmony.
    Or maybe Terran world, Africa (renamed to Terran empire), purity.

    • @Archris17
      @Archris17 ปีที่แล้ว

      Purity/Harmony hybrid is the best affinity, there's no question.

    • @purpledevilr7463
      @purpledevilr7463 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Archris17 not at all. It’s the weirdest/oddest one.
      I would align with Supremacy myself.

  • @zephyr8072
    @zephyr8072 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Beyond Earth is Alpha Centauri without the personality.
    Or the imagination.
    Or the fun.

  • @jasonpratt5126
    @jasonpratt5126 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Matrix/Slitherine made their own version of this game, and it was...... not played much by me. (I forget the name of it, easy to find on their site tho.) It did serve as the basis for their WH40K: Gladius game however, which is reasonably good despite being artistically fugly (though to be fair that's thematically appropriate for the cursed planet setting). Still being supported, too! -- they just released the Sisters of Battle team expansion for Christmas! I think only the Dark Eldar are still missing from the main factions.

  • @tyrakodyrg2511
    @tyrakodyrg2511 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Now you need to play with the DLC mentioned

  • @ultmateragnarok8376
    @ultmateragnarok8376 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    An Earth map would be hilarious because there would be a notable distance of ocean between some players, and by the sounds of it the ocean might as well be open space.

    • @robertblume2951
      @robertblume2951 ปีที่แล้ว

      Then they played without rising tide. Rising tide actually makes oceans way way better than land as a place to settle

  • @Volthoom
    @Volthoom ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I expected a civ3 video based on the music in last video's outro. Will there ever be a civ3 video? :D

    • @Americanbadashh
      @Americanbadashh ปีที่แล้ว

      Windows 10, breaks Civ3. I'm not sure if Windows 11 has that issue but it might

  • @Gunthersby
    @Gunthersby ปีที่แล้ว

    Feels really great in Civ Beyond Earth when you're winning and some civ across the map that everyone between you two is refusing to stop quickly builds the I Win Building

  • @rizzlefu5155
    @rizzlefu5155 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    where can I get one of these estrogen pods?

    • @Rob_Katt
      @Rob_Katt ปีที่แล้ว +2

      for very cis reasons

  • @echomjp
    @echomjp ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The answer definitely will not shock and surprise me.
    Edit: Thanks for clearing that up in the first five seconds of the video lmao.

  • @olejnik5165
    @olejnik5165 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I love the designs of soldiers, vehicles etc and the 3 ways u can evolve into

  • @cloud19568
    @cloud19568 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I would love to see a video on this concept done better with Offworld Trading Company, though no idea if it even holds up. If I recall it would be easily possible to have a skilled vs new gimmick to ruin the latter's experience, or have a secret alliance going into the game.

  • @Sgt_Robo
    @Sgt_Robo ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I like beyond earth tbh. It also has a very nice total overhaul mod called CODEX which is actually super fun.

  • @EggLordTobias
    @EggLordTobias ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The colour palette looks like someone threw up and exploded in an art classroom.

  • @uwskie8672
    @uwskie8672 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    look this is the first civ game i bought with my own money and i love it. might explain why i like ypur videos too. I unironically have 100 hours in this game.

  • @josephmontanaro2350
    @josephmontanaro2350 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    6:43 no joke a post apocalyptic mod for this would be fun, have you find famous ruins and other stuff from dead civilizations

  • @jrjuaneza3643
    @jrjuaneza3643 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    This is beautiful. I love waiting for and watching your videos. Can't wait for more torture sessions.

  • @HeckaLives
    @HeckaLives ปีที่แล้ว +15

    As a massive fan of Alpha Centauri as well as Civ 5, I was massively hyped for this game.
    It was a real disappointment. But there were some really awesome ideas buried under all this copy paste experience.

    • @Nukestarmaster
      @Nukestarmaster ปีที่แล้ว +1

      "Copy paste experience"? BE was an incredibly innovative game.

    • @HeckaLives
      @HeckaLives ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Nukestarmaster Copy past so far as; The leaders don't have a single personality between them. The landscape doesn't have distinct biomes, so the whole planet blurs together. And the factions don't have too much in the way of unique units or buildings, so they don't feel culturally unique either. But all this copy and paste prevents most people from seeing the genuine innovation; like the alien hive AI or technology web.

    • @TopHatHat
      @TopHatHat ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Nukestarmaster Having played Alpha Centauri, BE adds a number of new mechanics I can count on one hand.

    • @Nukestarmaster
      @Nukestarmaster ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@HeckaLives Sure the leaders are bland ... if you compare them to the leaders of Alpha Centauri, but not if you compare them to literally any other Civ game. Similarly, BE had all the terrain types that V had (plus a couple more). And yes, factions didn't have unique units or buildings, but that is because they were given to the affinities instead.

    • @HeckaLives
      @HeckaLives ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Nukestarmaster It's mostly the art style that lets the biomes down. The tundra is the most distinct biome; jungles and desert blend together. Also, there are only 3 affinities plus their hybrids. You honestly don't think they could have sprung for one culturally unique unit and building per faction? BE isn't the nuclear nightmare everyone pretends it is. But it is definitely the weakest link in the series, despite having all the mechanics of Civ 5 with DLC.

  • @Chrischi3TutorialLPs
    @Chrischi3TutorialLPs ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I gotta be honest though, ripping the lore of Beyond Earth and selling it as your own isn't that crazy. I did the same thing in english class one time, except i stole the idea of Pikmin instead. My teacher, if she caught me, at least didn't say anything. Which is to say she probably didn't, because she was the kind of teacher who would lie to my parents' faces about my behaviour in class.

  • @sharpieman2035
    @sharpieman2035 ปีที่แล้ว

    “Jeff Steinfeld” definitely needs to be a recurring character after this one lmao

  • @Giantspaz
    @Giantspaz ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Played this with my dad one time and stole a ruins site from him so he tried to embargo me, just surround my waters with frigates. I was way ahead of him in tech and I made one demand. "Do you want to move your ships or do you want me to move them to the bottom of the ocean?" I had to move his ships.

  • @NovelPond
    @NovelPond ปีที่แล้ว +7

    you should all go watch skagen smackdown on youtube

    • @0rbeez
      @0rbeez ปีที่แล้ว

      Ty for the recommendation, the skagen was very much smacked down 10/10

  • @laryjr1830
    @laryjr1830 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Am I allowed to say Beyond Earth is my guilty pleasure? I absolutely prefer 5 but there is just something about Beyond that draws me to it at least once a year.

  • @shirothefish9688
    @shirothefish9688 ปีที่แล้ว

    "I have assembled a team of 6-"
    ayo you're able to get more than 1 friend in game? shit he's already done better than I got

  • @512TheWolf512
    @512TheWolf512 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    It's amazing that at this point, it's REALLY hard to tell a game that's almost TEN YEARS OLD

    • @Brent-jj6qi
      @Brent-jj6qi ปีที่แล้ว

      Halo 4 turns 11 soon, could’ve been release last week graphics wise

  • @tomj0771
    @tomj0771 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    you can make a coh2 multiplayer video and bomb your friends highly recomend playing with spearhead or wikinger mod for this for maximum pain inflicted

  • @Solll0
    @Solll0 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Personally i enjoyed the game, i don't understand why everyone hates it that much.

    • @thesaltyadept7104
      @thesaltyadept7104 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Im with ya there, never understood it either

    • @housewilma4904
      @housewilma4904 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      cause they treat like civ never read anything and click everything as fast as possible and becase BE was a ROLEPLAYING GAME it feels boring like if you played a fallout game never talked to anyone and played it like a cod shoot everything game.
      which my father did with fallout new vegas calling a shitte game cause he wanted something like cod.

    • @aethelfrith7376
      @aethelfrith7376 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@housewilma4904 be is good but if want rp alpha centauri is this but 5x time better

    • @ecogreen123
      @ecogreen123 ปีที่แล้ว

      me neither, i love BE and i never knew it was considered a "Roleplaying" game.

    • @aethelfrith7376
      @aethelfrith7376 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ecogreen123 but it is, sci-fi role playing, not as deep as alpha centauri, tho. It's actually simple version of stellaris.

  • @BrowncoatGofAZ
    @BrowncoatGofAZ 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I am unashamed to say that Civ:BE is actually my favorite Civ game. I liked the idea of starting new on another world rather than replaying human history.

    • @reepusvanguard
      @reepusvanguard หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Stellaris does it better, youd probably like that game

    • @BrowncoatGofAZ
      @BrowncoatGofAZ หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@reepusvanguard I’ve played stellaris, but I have the habit of roleplaying as an egalitarian democracy, so I don’t usually go big. Don’t even get me started on the endgame crises.

  • @__prometheus__
    @__prometheus__ ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Man, I remember playing this game when I was 13 all those years ago. I loved it a lot as it was my first civ game. It was quite sad how it just faded away from popular memory.

  • @carmelopearman5721
    @carmelopearman5721 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    That Civ 3 song sent back so many memories

  • @Tobiassaufus
    @Tobiassaufus ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I love this game

  • @silverbackwrites
    @silverbackwrites ปีที่แล้ว

    "I think next time we should play a proper Civ game"
    What, like Sid Meier's Starships?

  • @jaeusa160
    @jaeusa160 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    ...I guess I am the 1 person who unironically liked this game. (Less alone than I thought it seems.)
    I liked the quest system shifting your civ in directions, or just shoring up weak spots. I loved that units globally auto-upgraded, so it didn't feel so wasteful having to built military at any point. I liked that the AI had at least slightly more diplomatic nuance than repeatedly yelling "Warmonger!" at you like it's some kind of ancient Valefisk meme video. If you attacked someone they disliked, they didn't whine, they celebrated. I would've vastly preferred Civ 6 iterating more from 5 and BE than the Civ 6 we got, not that I think Civ 6 is bad because Civ 6 is good too. :)
    I just really despise districts and the lack of a pressure against spamming small wide garbage cities.

    • @Kanjejou
      @Kanjejou ปีที่แล้ว

      yeah i liked how the AI looked logical in its choices, andn the ambiance

    • @Direbeetus
      @Direbeetus ปีที่แล้ว

      districts are my favorite thing about civ 6. The city planning in the early - mid game is a blast
      My biggest gripe is the loyalty system, though I have slowly learned you can simply build a government plaza by chopping down a forest immediately after taking a loyalty weak city

  • @count487
    @count487 ปีที่แล้ว

    Grokk the Barbarian teleported to the planet after splitting the atom by striking two stones together really fast.

  • @MaxwellTornado
    @MaxwellTornado ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I miss Mandy's review of this game. The Australian segment was brilliant.

  • @gatness
    @gatness ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The game had solid promise if it had been polished or expanded upon. Never played it multiplayer but the singleplayer was ok, becuase it didnt really matter how overpowered you could get when slaughtering AI

  • @surdmuri
    @surdmuri ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I liked the game and I'm not a masochist. No, I don't exist, i fucking lied

  • @Johnnekaiser
    @Johnnekaiser 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    If you want a Sci-Fi Civ like game, I'd recommend Warhammer 40,000: Gladius - Relics of War. It's set in a famous Ip. It's Sci-fi and it's mainly about war and nothing else

  • @caesar1058
    @caesar1058 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I think I have like 300-500 hours in beyond earth. I had no money and it was the only civ game I had.

  • @minimalgrammar1276
    @minimalgrammar1276 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I actually disagree with most people. I think I enjoyed Beyond Earth the most out of any Civ game. And I've played Civ V and VI quite a lot.
    Also it's been so long but I think I remember at least the early game being really scary in terms of combat. Like I think the aliens were pretty yikes as you can see in the video.
    Okay I just checked the price on Steam and I now understand why people are mad at this game. Paradox lookin' ass.