Towards the end of this video I included a screenshot of my interaction with Jay on twitter, but I didn't really explain it, so here's some context. Soon after Jay made his video, I tried to leave a comment explaining how useful the screen can be for hobbyists who know basic Python programming, but the comment kept getting deleted. Turns out he banned the phrase "turing-smart-screen" in the comments so no one could mention it. I politely informed him on Twitter, and his response was "the product is shit, get over it". His dismissive and unprofessional response is what motivated me to make this video, in case you were wondering. Also check out my guide showing how to setup the Python library. Linux: th-cam.com/video/Vpg25AdheO0/w-d-xo.html Windows: th-cam.com/video/NzN-tQ5lkYc/w-d-xo.html
Jay being wrong, childish and unprofessional is a classic. He blocked me on twitter because I sued to correct him so much, specially his shit takes about RAM.
I'm so happy with mine. I'm tired of people being so clever in hindsight... Aaaand then proceeding to lash out at companies, to make a couple of bucks of his own. It's all listed in the product description, it never claims it does more than what it does. He is biased, didn't review the product, sidetracked a bunch of people. God i love it, so amazing when an internet personality goes out of his way to outright lie, deceive, and screw over another company... What a smug.
Glad to hear that it's working out great for you! And yea I agree with your other points, it doesn't make sense how some internet personalities can be so successful yet they release content that's lazy, biased, and manipulative. That's not to say all his content is bad, but in this case he seemed to place more importance on being entertaining and cracking high school jokes rather than giving factual information. It's entirely self-serving. YT has quite a few modern day clowns 🤡
I've just purchased one on aliexpress on sale for like 12.99$ and then I watched your video. I can't tell how much I'm happy now that I found out that there's a python library that I can use to pilot this screen because that was my prior intent. Thank yout again!
That's great to hear, happy to help! Check out the pinned comment, there are links to two guides I made showing how to set up the Python library, one for Linux and one for Windows.
Jay's full of it! For under $40, I can see what my workstation is doing at a glance. It's 3.5", which is large enough to see it fine. Jay's mad, because he gets a kickback, from the suppliers of the other setup, that's insanely difficult to set up...
I think you're spot on. It's nice for what it is especially considering the price. Also the PC doesn't see it as a regular monitor which can save some headaches for many people. But yea, definitely seems like he's getting some sort of kickback!
@@PhazerTech Just received it today, and it installed nicely in my Puget Systems workstation. It's the perfect size, and monitors everything nicely. It even has an AORUS theme, that works great! I was able to re-name the CPU & GPU, as well as change the value of the RAM. Behing the tinted glass, it looks like it's floating. I have it mounted on the drive bay cover, of the Fractal case, and it just looks awesome! I did have to drill a small hole in the back, to allow the USB-C cable through, but was very careful about the shavings, and installed a rubber grommet. I have a feeling, this little tool, is going to be well worth the $35 I paid for it. And it didn't take hours of fiddling around with settings. Beginning to end, took about 30 minutes to complete. It has a tiny footprint, and doesn't need an HDMI cable, nor a dedicated monitor slot off the GPU. How Jay could trash this is beyond me. It really makes me think, he's getting a kickback from those manufacturers, and really sours what I thought of him, as a computer specialist. Lost a ton of respect for him...
@@KentuckyRanger Nice, that sounds like an awesome setup! Putting the screen inside a case with a glass side panel can really take the aesthetics to the next level. Might be a good idea for a video to show others how you did it. But yea, I think Jay's content is pretty hit or miss. He's talented at doing custom PC mods and custom water cooling, but a lot of his content nowadays is kinda lazy and obviously does it for the clicks.
@@PhazerTech It is a real shame, because he used to be up front and honest. Now he just comes across as a sellout. I might just do a video, showing just how easy it was.
He's also an Amazon Affiliate so pretty sure that's not the issue. I think the comment about driving people to his older video is the more likely answer.
Yeah. Love jay, but totally disagree with him too on this one. The screen is a great addition to my pc. And after learning the program that came with it, making the theme is soooooo easy now. I don't get it with people that say that the program is trash, maybe the haven't learn or try to tinker with it before. It's user friendly I made 2 starfield theme already (i can share it if people want it), both with a video animated background. i totally love this screens.
I checked your video. It seems you're using the 5 inch model? The program for that seems a bit more robust than the 3.5 inch that people are complaining about.
Couldn’t agree more with your assessment of this little gizmo. Just finished an AM5 build over Christmas and thought what else would be cool to go inside the case. Had no issues installing on a clean Windows 11 (a lot of people were having issues but worked fine for me). Just wish the screen was a bit bigger but for $25 CAD it’s great value. The 5” version for me would have been 3 times the cost. Thanks for the review.
Thanks, now that you mention it, putting it inside a case is something I overlooked and should have talked about. Many other screens require HDMI and power to run while this one only needs a USB cable, making it a much more convenient choice if you're putting it in the case. Also great choice on the AM5 build, it should be supported well into the future.
i am a chinese(not from china), but i really respect your video against a famous youtuber with right sense. good product will tell people the truth all the time.
@@PhazerTech yes! I am a beginner of the function aida64 and I never used aida64 before. I searched a lot of information in Asia areas and I found Turning Smart Screen. After my consideration of the product package, I think it is a "plug in to use" tool that is easy to use and user-friendly software(but the UI is pretty ugly, like a developing product even the official website.[mostly small china company style like that. A big different style within the foreign small company like "Wooting keyboard"] To be honest, I am waiting for their new product 7 inch ips mon if possible. 3.5/5 inch for me is too small. BTW, I appreciate you from the bottom heart, Good Job bro.
It hardly uses any system resources, when the system is at idle I can't see any noticeable CPU usage, it appears the same as if the screen wasn't running.
Jay's not entirely wrong, but he's not entirely right, either. There are many good uses for this screen. For myself, however, I've encountered shortcomings in both the hardware and in the software - both native and python - that leave me looking for other alternatives. The biggest issue for me with the hardware is the incredibly slow baud rate - it takes almost a full second to render a single full screen image. This makes showing animations or video on the screen impossible. The native software is basically trash, but even the python option has some shortcomings. The biggest one for me was the impossibility of having concentric radial sensors. I'm working on a re-write of the python software that might address this, and may offer limited support for very slow background animations, but a panel that supports video display would be worth the extra ~$20.
Yea I addressed its slow update rate in my followup video on it. th-cam.com/video/Vpg25AdheO0/w-d-xo.html While it's too slow for video and animations it should be perfect for displaying sensor data in text or bar graph format. The panel makes sense for certain applications especially considering it's only $15-$20 on AliExpress.
Hi Phazer, any chance you can do a complete tutorial on this little guy! I'm having issues with setting it up! mostly software and actuall installation in the case!
Well the setup should be pretty straight forward. Just download the software, plug it in and then run the software. Are you on Windows or Linux? However I have heard from one or two other people that their computer couldn't recognize the screen. It sounds like there might be a USB controller compatibility issue with a small number of motherboards.
right? idk why jason was saying all that, hes a very intelligent guy, but this product is nice and works, saying the same thing as msi afterburner and task manager.
So is there any way to use these as a standard monitor? Is the python package/turing software/AIDA 64 needed to output video to them or just the sensor data? I just want a tiny screen for my server for diagnosing bootloader issues.
No this can't do that. Here's a great mini panel that can be used as a standard monitor but you need to boot into the OS first: th-cam.com/video/Y7fBDXARBsw/w-d-xo.html But if you need it to work in the bios then you'll probably need to get an HDMI panel.
I am only a windows user, and I would like to make my own theme for this screen, I just got it last night from amazon and put it behind my glass panel, surprised it fit.
That's great to hear! I'm currently working on a few other videos, but I'll add it to the bucket list. Did you already look at the python package's wiki? It has helpful information to get it running github.com/mathoudebine/turing-smart-screen-python/wiki
hey great video, I kind of disagree with Jay, I have one of these as well, but found that it didn't play nice with my ram. When I had it plugged into my computer, the RGB would not start on my ram, as it was also part of the soffware that starts up when windows boots up. Also, it would crash my machine. I decided to do a fresh install of windows just because I wasn't sure how much the software had messed with my PC settings. have you had similar issues?
Thanks! I haven't ran into any issues like that but I don't have RGB in my system either. Does it work fine if you connect it after booting up Windows? It's possible it could be some compatibility issue with one of that motherboard's USB controllers, or the devices themselves, but it's really hard to say. The first thing I'd try is connecting one of the devices to a different USB port. If both are currently using internal ports then try one on the outside and see if the issue persists.
It uses a typical USB connection and the PC doesn't see it as a monitor, so there should be no issues running the python package I mentioned. This sounds like a great use for it!
I ordered such a display, but on 5 inches, I know that on the beta version of the latter it is possible to output FPS, you can tell how to make it possible to output Frame time Graph?
Check out this thread for more info. Seems like you need the latest version and RivaTuner for it to work. discuz.turzx.com/d/139-new-software-version-in-eng
I wish it had better ways of mounting it inside or on the computer and type c to motherboard usb connection would help with that too. I bought one of these off a Aliexpress for $30 its a very alpha level of product its need to be a lot better in design. Its cool that you are figuring out how to mod it.
Thanks, yea it's pretty bare bones when it comes to mounting options. Personally if I needed to mount it then I'd use my 3D printer to make a custom mount, but I realize not everyone has access to one.
I just used 3m double sided tape to mount it. Used a Dremel to open up a slot in one of my PCIE blanks on the back of the case and ran the cable to an open usb. I have the Corsair 4000D airflow case in black so the side glass is smoked and you can’t see the cable or usb c end at the bottom of the screen. Looks very clean.
what am I missing. software downloaded and the display is plugged into USB port. Nothing. Software says - device not detected and this video doesn't show how it's connected.
Nice! I'm not sure about extra themes for the official app, but the Python app has a bunch of user created themes you can download. If you're curious about the Python app I made a followup video here: th-cam.com/video/Vpg25AdheO0/w-d-xo.html
Yes it appears to be safe. But if you prefer, you can also use the open source Python library. Installing it requires Python though, so I made a video guide showing how to do it: th-cam.com/video/NzN-tQ5lkYc/w-d-xo.html
The instructions are on github: github.com/mathoudebine/turing-smart-screen-python/wiki/System-monitor-%3A-how-to-start A few people have asked about it though so I might do a tutorial in a few weeks.
@phazertech that would be awesome... cause I try to follow the directions and download python and the source code... but apparently, I'm doing something wrong... I get to the install python dependencies, and that's where I get stuck
i got this screen a few days ago, can't seem to find a way (with the turing smart screen app) to detect my GPU, in every theme it shows 0% at everything GPU related, i have an rtx 3090 ROG strix
Click on 'normal settings' and check the GPU entry. Do you see your GPU listed there? Also if you're familiar with Python there's another software package that can run it, I recently made a video about it: th-cam.com/video/Vpg25AdheO0/w-d-xo.html
@@PhazerTech it shows my gpu in the normal settings (3 times actually), i tried with every option, cant seem to work. i m not familiar with python but i got a friend who will try to help me when he has some time off, we already did the theme background in adobe illustrator and than converted into png. more work to be done. thank you for your answer
The problem is Jay, Gamers Nexus etc are not independent people when they review things, all the big channels are sponsored and they will only criticise if it is not going to hit them in the pocket or upset a big manufacturer enough to stop them sending things to review. Gamers Nexus rips into Alienware because he knows now there never ever going to send him anything again to review so there an easy target. It happens all over you tube, there is a guy from Germany that flies around the globe "reviewing" airlines but both Emirates and Qatar Airlines get poor reviews off him time after time, he will literally complain about the shade of yellow cushions in first class if he thinks it will earn him a few extra views. You Tube channel creators hate it being mentioned, but there in it for once reason, to make money.
Very good video. These things can be had for $15 if Jay had said dont pay $40 its rip off go to other place for proper price i would understand but as you said he had no interest in truth. We need someone to make some better software for windows it's so poor & simple people who want to create a theme how do they even do that? hopefully this will get support for the likes of hwinfo64 etc as well
You're in luck, it appears there was a recent update to the software that added FPS support! Here's a thread talking about it. It seems you need to install RivaTuner for it to work. discuz.turzx.com/d/139-new-software-version-in-eng
First make sure you're able to run the programs from the original python package, follow these steps to get it set up correctly: github.com/mathoudebine/turing-smart-screen-python/wiki/System-monitor-%3A-how-to-start In addition to that, to run the weather app you'll need to install a few other packages using pip and also register for a free account on the OpenWeatherMap API. I've updated the readme to make the instructions more clear. Btw you don't need to enter your location, it automatically detects it.
@@Alekouzos I'm not sure, if it's possible then I don't think it will be straight forward and will require digging into the underlying software that the python library uses to grab sensor data. I might look into it if I have time but I suggest opening a thread and asking your question here: github.com/mathoudebine/turing-smart-screen-python/discussions Also be sure to mention if you have AMD or Nvidia since they use different software to grab sensor data.
This is the official Windows software (they have an English version too): www.turzx.com/2023/03/02/%E7%9B%B4%E9%93%BE%E4%B8%8B%E8%BD%BDdirectdownload/ Or you can use the open source Python software. Windows Guide: th-cam.com/video/NzN-tQ5lkYc/w-d-xo.html Linux Guide: th-cam.com/video/Vpg25AdheO0/w-d-xo.html
Yea it would be nice if there was a bigger selection of themes. I'm not aware of any sites that have any. The python package I mentioned includes some themes but I think most of them are duplicates from the official program. You can see them here: github.com/mathoudebine/turing-smart-screen-python/tree/main/res/themes If you wanted to make your own you would just need to make a new background.png and replace it in one of those folders.
Good video man, thank you. I agreed with you, this product is good and cheap. Don't know why Jayz's so butthurt about this. He just kept ranting. Anyways, among the "famous" tech youtubers, he is the worst and I very rarely watch his contents.
Did you say something with "turing-smart-screen"? It seems he set that as an auto-delete keyword, oddly enough. The same thing happened to me shortly after he released that video, which is what gave me the idea to do this video.
Not really, this requires software to communicate what to show, does not work as a regular display, but there's some other models which run with HDMI and even are touch screen equipped, I was thinking on getting one just to control Voicemeeter but I went the DIY DAW device
Yes it work with Aida64. When you start up Aida you can choose the brand and type of screen you use, and it will be detected. The only thing you need to do is to download some skins or make on yourself.
I downloaded the software & it asks what app I want to open it with ...none of the choices work ...can't open the download. Any suggestions ...because at this point ...I agree with Jay!!!
I'll haver to go with jay on this one. The screen itself is not the problem, the software is crap, and I really say this because it was advertised as 'plug and play' but it wasn't, imo. To be fair, I was going to return it, I got the return label from Amazon etc. But I ended up keeping it and did some tinkering its okay, so I'm keeping it. Keep in mind as well, there are two screens, one from xuanfang and one using turing software which seems easier to use, I have the xuanfang. But for the price, I think a 5 inch screen that connects to the HDMI makes more sense. You can do a lot more with the display.
Biased opinions are just that. It is a neat product that does not require a subscription. I am skeptic of the software, but early reports are positive. JTC is bought and paid for, so it is his interest to push his sponsors. No foul, just life. Thanks for the risk.
Yep I agree there's nothing necessarily wrong with what he does in general, but every once in a while a clear bias comes out which borderlines as unethical. Just wondering, what did you mean by "risk" in your comment?
@@ToxiloGames I think it has something to do with Windows 11. I don't use Win 11 so I can't say for sure, but I was able to find this thread with other users experiencing the same issue. github.com/mathoudebine/turing-smart-screen-python/issues/54 This thread is from the turing-smart-screen python app github page, but they also discuss the manufacturer provided software too. I suggest trying both if you haven't already.
I never realized j was such a prima Donna but I hardly watch his channel, so I guess that stands to reason. Thanks for bringing this information to light. I'll be sure and unsub from him.
I'm not sure if he's seen this or not but he does seem to be self-aware enough to admit that his content has been slipping. I hope it serves as motivation for him to do better.
When you want to lern Python a few month and after that spend hours of programm - its wonderful.........but most of peaople want to use it with Windows-User-Skills and make some own Mods in a few minutes
The included software works perfectly fine. As far as custom mods go, it doesn't matter which screen you buy, if you want it customized then you'll need to learn programming.
@@PhazerTech or buy an really good one. its nothing for far over 99 percent of users. no aida64 support instead the crappiest software ever. sorry.. really bad product. maybe you have fun with it.
@@mimu9599 It depends what you're buying it for. If you want aida64 support then go ahead and pay $100 US for a really good screen. If you're like most users who are on a budget and just want something simple to display temperatures and CPU/GPU utilization, then this screen works perfectly fine and it costs a fraction of the price.
@@PhazerTech no there is an usb solution for only a few more bucks from bandea that is recognized as an real monitor in windows... so full abilities with that..... i am from germany
In his opinion it was crap. Say it again, it was his opinion that it's crap. You feel it's pretty good. Opinion are what you think and feel so it's not wrong. Keep in mind that Jay tends to work with a lot of high end equipment. This screen appears to fall far short of high end. That doesn't make it bad for the average user or maybe even some high end users. Personally I prefer no less than a 5" screen with a decent resolution for a sensor panel. I wouldn't even consider such a small screen. That's me, you might feel different and that's fine. It's my opinion you did this video calling Jay out for a viewer grab and not because you actually like this tiny screen. Why else did your video show up in my suggestions? You got to start somewhere and if it works then good job.
He said things that are flat out untrue and disingenuous, and it's clear he was smearing it just to drive views to his other videos. Also like I pointed out in my video, the python library works flawlessly for people who want to incorporate it into their own projects. He didn't even mention this in his "review". Did you even watch my video? Doesn't seem like it, but yet here you are leaving a lengthy 2 paragraph rant. Seems like you just got triggered that I would even dare to question your idol Jay. Also a product isn't "crap" just because the size doesn't fit your needs. The resolution is very crisp and the size was clearly mentioned in the product listing, so why would you and Jay complain so much about that as if you were tricked? It's not the product's fault you can't read. That's like someone buying a 13" Macbook and saying it's absolute crap because it's too small. My response would be: Well genius, maybe you should have bought the 15" Macbook instead? That doesn't mean the 13" is absolute crap. But then again, who cares about logic and common sense.
Jay likes his windows ease of use gear. Linux and doing small code/appget installs isnt his thing. Probably why he rate it so poorly. Jayz a little like Sudo-Appge..I'm bored, fackit!
The whole run with admin rights is a none start for me that sounds a cheap way for hacker to make money while selling you something that can backdoor your security. super sketch. Im with J on that
As I already said in the video, admin rights are required to access the hardware sensors. Even the panels Jay promotes require admin rights, so the entire argument is a nonstarter and disingenuous. If someone is truly concerned about security then they shouldn't even be considering a sensor panel to begin with, nor should you run any software that reads hardware info. In fact, you shouldn't be using Windows at all if you're concerned about privacy.
Towards the end of this video I included a screenshot of my interaction with Jay on twitter, but I didn't really explain it, so here's some context. Soon after Jay made his video, I tried to leave a comment explaining how useful the screen can be for hobbyists who know basic Python programming, but the comment kept getting deleted. Turns out he banned the phrase "turing-smart-screen" in the comments so no one could mention it. I politely informed him on Twitter, and his response was "the product is shit, get over it". His dismissive and unprofessional response is what motivated me to make this video, in case you were wondering.
Also check out my guide showing how to setup the Python library.
Linux: th-cam.com/video/Vpg25AdheO0/w-d-xo.html
Windows: th-cam.com/video/NzN-tQ5lkYc/w-d-xo.html
I think jay just hate anything from china. Yeah he's very unprofesional. I'm gonna unsubscribe from his cahnnel
Jay is an idiot. Dont really understand how he ever got popular but his channel has been on a downward trend for quite some time.
Jay being wrong, childish and unprofessional is a classic.
He blocked me on twitter because I sued to correct him so much, specially his shit takes about RAM.
I'm so happy with mine.
I'm tired of people being so clever in hindsight... Aaaand then proceeding to lash out at companies, to make a couple of bucks of his own. It's all listed in the product description, it never claims it does more than what it does. He is biased, didn't review the product, sidetracked a bunch of people.
God i love it, so amazing when an internet personality goes out of his way to outright lie, deceive, and screw over another company...
What a smug.
Glad to hear that it's working out great for you! And yea I agree with your other points, it doesn't make sense how some internet personalities can be so successful yet they release content that's lazy, biased, and manipulative. That's not to say all his content is bad, but in this case he seemed to place more importance on being entertaining and cracking high school jokes rather than giving factual information. It's entirely self-serving. YT has quite a few modern day clowns 🤡
I've just purchased one on aliexpress on sale for like 12.99$ and then I watched your video. I can't tell how much I'm happy now that I found out that there's a python library that I can use to pilot this screen because that was my prior intent. Thank yout again!
That's great to hear, happy to help! Check out the pinned comment, there are links to two guides I made showing how to set up the Python library, one for Linux and one for Windows.
I just bought one from Aliexpress for only € 15. I haven’t really played with it, but the build quality is very nice.
Jayz ego is the problem. Not saying he is horrible, he just gets too much free stuff so he is spoiled.
I think you're spot on. It's good to keep people honest, hopefully he takes note.
These things are literally $14 shipped now. I'm getting multiple lmao. Thanks for showing us how to break free of the included software.
Yep they're dirt cheap 😆👍
Jay's full of it!
For under $40, I can see what my workstation is doing at a glance.
It's 3.5", which is large enough to see it fine.
Jay's mad, because he gets a kickback, from the suppliers of the other setup, that's insanely difficult to set up...
I think you're spot on. It's nice for what it is especially considering the price. Also the PC doesn't see it as a regular monitor which can save some headaches for many people.
But yea, definitely seems like he's getting some sort of kickback!
@@PhazerTech Just received it today, and it installed nicely in my Puget Systems workstation.
It's the perfect size, and monitors everything nicely.
It even has an AORUS theme, that works great!
I was able to re-name the CPU & GPU, as well as change the value of the RAM.
Behing the tinted glass, it looks like it's floating.
I have it mounted on the drive bay cover, of the Fractal case, and it just looks awesome!
I did have to drill a small hole in the back, to allow the USB-C cable through, but was very careful about the shavings, and installed a rubber grommet.
I have a feeling, this little tool, is going to be well worth the $35 I paid for it.
And it didn't take hours of fiddling around with settings.
Beginning to end, took about 30 minutes to complete.
It has a tiny footprint, and doesn't need an HDMI cable, nor a dedicated monitor slot off the GPU.
How Jay could trash this is beyond me.
It really makes me think, he's getting a kickback from those manufacturers, and really sours what I thought of him, as a computer specialist.
Lost a ton of respect for him...
@@KentuckyRanger Nice, that sounds like an awesome setup! Putting the screen inside a case with a glass side panel can really take the aesthetics to the next level. Might be a good idea for a video to show others how you did it.
But yea, I think Jay's content is pretty hit or miss. He's talented at doing custom PC mods and custom water cooling, but a lot of his content nowadays is kinda lazy and obviously does it for the clicks.
@@PhazerTech It is a real shame, because he used to be up front and honest.
Now he just comes across as a sellout.
I might just do a video, showing just how easy it was.
He's also an Amazon Affiliate so pretty sure that's not the issue. I think the comment about driving people to his older video is the more likely answer.
Yeah. Love jay, but totally disagree with him too on this one. The screen is a great addition to my pc.
And after learning the program that came with it, making the theme is soooooo easy now. I don't get it with people that say that the program is trash, maybe the haven't learn or try to tinker with it before.
It's user friendly I made 2 starfield theme already (i can share it if people want it), both with a video animated background. i totally love this screens.
I checked your video. It seems you're using the 5 inch model? The program for that seems a bit more robust than the 3.5 inch that people are complaining about.
Seems like a better solution that Jayz setup, since this won't detect as a separate monitor and will not interfere with windows in any way.
Yes that's an extremely good point! Forgot to mention that in this video.
Couldn’t agree more with your assessment of this little gizmo. Just finished an AM5 build over Christmas and thought what else would be cool to go inside the case. Had no issues installing on a clean Windows 11 (a lot of people were having issues but worked fine for me). Just wish the screen was a bit bigger but for $25 CAD it’s great value. The 5” version for me would have been 3 times the cost. Thanks for the review.
Thanks, now that you mention it, putting it inside a case is something I overlooked and should have talked about. Many other screens require HDMI and power to run while this one only needs a USB cable, making it a much more convenient choice if you're putting it in the case.
Also great choice on the AM5 build, it should be supported well into the future.
i am a chinese(not from china), but i really respect your video against a famous youtuber with right sense.
good product will tell people the truth all the time.
Thank you! It's a good value product and get's the job done.
@@PhazerTech yes! I am a beginner of the function aida64 and I never used aida64 before.
I searched a lot of information in Asia areas and I found Turning Smart Screen.
After my consideration of the product package, I think it is a "plug in to use" tool that is easy to use and user-friendly software(but the UI is pretty ugly, like a developing product even the official website.[mostly small china company style like that. A big different style within the foreign small company like "Wooting keyboard"]
To be honest, I am waiting for their new product 7 inch ips mon if possible.
3.5/5 inch for me is too small.
BTW, I appreciate you from the bottom heart, Good Job bro.
How much system resource overhead does it take to run? I was hoping this would be a simple add on to HW Monitor.
It hardly uses any system resources, when the system is at idle I can't see any noticeable CPU usage, it appears the same as if the screen wasn't running.
While waving it around talking about how bad it is all I can think is how good the viewing angles seem for such a small low cost display
lol good point, it's better than you'd expect for the price
Jay's not entirely wrong, but he's not entirely right, either. There are many good uses for this screen. For myself, however, I've encountered shortcomings in both the hardware and in the software - both native and python - that leave me looking for other alternatives. The biggest issue for me with the hardware is the incredibly slow baud rate - it takes almost a full second to render a single full screen image. This makes showing animations or video on the screen impossible. The native software is basically trash, but even the python option has some shortcomings. The biggest one for me was the impossibility of having concentric radial sensors. I'm working on a re-write of the python software that might address this, and may offer limited support for very slow background animations, but a panel that supports video display would be worth the extra ~$20.
Yea I addressed its slow update rate in my followup video on it. th-cam.com/video/Vpg25AdheO0/w-d-xo.html
While it's too slow for video and animations it should be perfect for displaying sensor data in text or bar graph format. The panel makes sense for certain applications especially considering it's only $15-$20 on AliExpress.
Hi Phazer, any chance you can do a complete tutorial on this little guy! I'm having issues with setting it up! mostly software and actuall installation in the case!
Well the setup should be pretty straight forward. Just download the software, plug it in and then run the software. Are you on Windows or Linux?
However I have heard from one or two other people that their computer couldn't recognize the screen. It sounds like there might be a USB controller compatibility issue with a small number of motherboards.
right? idk why jason was saying all that, hes a very intelligent guy, but this product is nice and works, saying the same thing as msi afterburner and task manager.
I agree, although I've never heard Jay being referred to as Jason before lol, but I suppose that is his full name?
@@PhazerTech yea ha
Is it possible to run this without turning on the smart screen time everytime?
So is there any way to use these as a standard monitor? Is the python package/turing software/AIDA 64 needed to output video to them or just the sensor data? I just want a tiny screen for my server for diagnosing bootloader issues.
No this can't do that. Here's a great mini panel that can be used as a standard monitor but you need to boot into the OS first: th-cam.com/video/Y7fBDXARBsw/w-d-xo.html
But if you need it to work in the bios then you'll probably need to get an HDMI panel.
I am only a windows user, and I would like to make my own theme for this screen, I just got it last night from amazon and put it behind my glass panel, surprised it fit.
Nice! You should be able to design your own theme using photo editing software such as Photoshop or Gimp.
Is there a way to resete the screen? It worked one time. Now its only showing me the backlight? Thx
Hello! Can you make a turorial on how to run the panel in mac/linux with python? I love the screen 😊
That's great to hear! I'm currently working on a few other videos, but I'll add it to the bucket list. Did you already look at the python package's wiki? It has helpful information to get it running github.com/mathoudebine/turing-smart-screen-python/wiki
I got it for 16€ and it does the job well, Software is buggy lots of errors. But overall i like it. Jay wasnt right.
hey great video, I kind of disagree with Jay, I have one of these as well, but found that it didn't play nice with my ram. When I had it plugged into my computer, the RGB would not start on my ram, as it was also part of the soffware that starts up when windows boots up. Also, it would crash my machine. I decided to do a fresh install of windows just because I wasn't sure how much the software had messed with my PC settings. have you had similar issues?
Thanks! I haven't ran into any issues like that but I don't have RGB in my system either. Does it work fine if you connect it after booting up Windows? It's possible it could be some compatibility issue with one of that motherboard's USB controllers, or the devices themselves, but it's really hard to say. The first thing I'd try is connecting one of the devices to a different USB port. If both are currently using internal ports then try one on the outside and see if the issue persists.
It looks cool and seems straightforward. Not sure why you need to take shots at other reviewers this content would have stood on its own just fine.
Read my pinned comment. He opened the door to this sort of criticism with shady actions and disrespectful responses.
Does it work on lunux server distro without any GUI (only cmd shell)? it would be nice to have stats of HW on home small server.
It uses a typical USB connection and the PC doesn't see it as a monitor, so there should be no issues running the python package I mentioned. This sounds like a great use for it!
I ordered such a display, but on 5 inches, I know that on the beta version of the latter it is possible to output FPS, you can tell how to make it possible to output Frame time Graph?
Check out this thread for more info. Seems like you need the latest version and RivaTuner for it to work. discuz.turzx.com/d/139-new-software-version-in-eng
@@PhazerTech I know the latest beta has FPS, but I'm talking about frame time graphing overlay
@@ArmsK7 That doesn't seem to be supported at the moment.
@@PhazerTech I wonder if the panel uses sensors from RivaTuner, then what is the problem with displaying the graph
I wish it had better ways of mounting it inside or on the computer and type c to motherboard usb connection would help with that too. I bought one of these off a Aliexpress for $30 its a very alpha level of product its need to be a lot better in design. Its cool that you are figuring out how to mod it.
Thanks, yea it's pretty bare bones when it comes to mounting options. Personally if I needed to mount it then I'd use my 3D printer to make a custom mount, but I realize not everyone has access to one.
I just used 3m double sided tape to mount it. Used a Dremel to open up a slot in one of my PCIE blanks on the back of the case and ran the cable to an open usb. I have the Corsair 4000D airflow case in black so the side glass is smoked and you can’t see the cable or usb c end at the bottom of the screen. Looks very clean.
Hey man I ended using magnetic tape I just cut to the same size of the monitor and slapping it on the steel psu shroud of my 4000d case.
The Wownova 5 inch comes with both USB-C to usb A and USB-C to USB Header as wel las a stand and a mounting bracket
If only you could use it as an actual secondary screen. Oh well, still neat!
what am I missing. software downloaded and the display is plugged into USB port. Nothing. Software says - device not detected and this video doesn't show how it's connected.
Try a different USB port, sometimes certain chipsets can have issues.
I got the 5inch and it works great I love it anyone know any good websites for extra screens to choose from ?
Nice! I'm not sure about extra themes for the official app, but the Python app has a bunch of user created themes you can download. If you're curious about the Python app I made a followup video here: th-cam.com/video/Vpg25AdheO0/w-d-xo.html
Would you say the software it comes with is safe? Once I saw it was from China I was worried about spyware and other nasty things..
Yes it appears to be safe. But if you prefer, you can also use the open source Python library. Installing it requires Python though, so I made a video guide showing how to do it: th-cam.com/video/NzN-tQ5lkYc/w-d-xo.html
Is there any tutorials to show how the hell you use the github to get the display working?
The instructions are on github: github.com/mathoudebine/turing-smart-screen-python/wiki/System-monitor-%3A-how-to-start
A few people have asked about it though so I might do a tutorial in a few weeks.
@phazertech that would be awesome... cause I try to follow the directions and download python and the source code... but apparently, I'm doing something wrong... I get to the install python dependencies, and that's where I get stuck
can you display basic live wallpapers? or images without the sensor info?
Yes you can with the Python library, see my more recent videos. th-cam.com/video/NzN-tQ5lkYc/w-d-xo.html
Great job.I'll buy one now.
i got this screen a few days ago, can't seem to find a way (with the turing smart screen app) to detect my GPU, in every theme it shows 0% at everything GPU related, i have an rtx 3090 ROG strix
Click on 'normal settings' and check the GPU entry. Do you see your GPU listed there?
Also if you're familiar with Python there's another software package that can run it, I recently made a video about it: th-cam.com/video/Vpg25AdheO0/w-d-xo.html
@@PhazerTech it shows my gpu in the normal settings (3 times actually), i tried with every option, cant seem to work. i m not familiar with python but i got a friend who will try to help me when he has some time off, we already did the theme background in adobe illustrator and than converted into png. more work to be done. thank you for your answer
Agreed, a small simple stats monitor.
The problem is Jay, Gamers Nexus etc are not independent people when they review things, all the big channels are sponsored and they will only criticise if it is not going to hit them in the pocket or upset a big manufacturer enough to stop them sending things to review. Gamers Nexus rips into Alienware because he knows now there never ever going to send him anything again to review so there an easy target. It happens all over you tube, there is a guy from Germany that flies around the globe "reviewing" airlines but both Emirates and Qatar Airlines get poor reviews off him time after time, he will literally complain about the shade of yellow cushions in first class if he thinks it will earn him a few extra views. You Tube channel creators hate it being mentioned, but there in it for once reason, to make money.
Very good video.
These things can be had for $15 if Jay had said dont pay $40 its rip off go to other place for proper price i would understand but as you said he had no interest in truth.
We need someone to make some better software for windows it's so poor & simple people who want to create a theme how do they even do that?
hopefully this will get support for the likes of hwinfo64 etc as well
Is there a way to use it to display FPS while gaming?
You're in luck, it appears there was a recent update to the software that added FPS support! Here's a thread talking about it. It seems you need to install RivaTuner for it to work. discuz.turzx.com/d/139-new-software-version-in-eng
@@PhazerTech Wow man! Thank you! I´ll go to the thread right now!
I wonder is this thing eat much ram/cpu or not?
No it's very lightweight.
hey there, can you tell me how i can ad my location to weather. It seems that is not working at all. Thanks.
First make sure you're able to run the programs from the original python package, follow these steps to get it set up correctly: github.com/mathoudebine/turing-smart-screen-python/wiki/System-monitor-%3A-how-to-start
In addition to that, to run the weather app you'll need to install a few other packages using pip and also register for a free account on the OpenWeatherMap API. I've updated the readme to make the instructions more clear. Btw you don't need to enter your location, it automatically detects it.
@@PhazerTech Thanks for your awnser! One more question, it is possible to make it show me the Hot Spot gpu temps?
@@Alekouzos I'm not sure, if it's possible then I don't think it will be straight forward and will require digging into the underlying software that the python library uses to grab sensor data. I might look into it if I have time but I suggest opening a thread and asking your question here: github.com/mathoudebine/turing-smart-screen-python/discussions
Also be sure to mention if you have AMD or Nvidia since they use different software to grab sensor data.
I just got one and I can't find a good source for the software
This is the official Windows software (they have an English version too): www.turzx.com/2023/03/02/%E7%9B%B4%E9%93%BE%E4%B8%8B%E8%BD%BDdirectdownload/
Or you can use the open source Python software.
Windows Guide: th-cam.com/video/NzN-tQ5lkYc/w-d-xo.html
Linux Guide: th-cam.com/video/Vpg25AdheO0/w-d-xo.html
the only downside I have found is lack of theme support. are there any theme download sites out there for this? idk how to make my own
Yea it would be nice if there was a bigger selection of themes. I'm not aware of any sites that have any. The python package I mentioned includes some themes but I think most of them are duplicates from the official program. You can see them here: github.com/mathoudebine/turing-smart-screen-python/tree/main/res/themes
If you wanted to make your own you would just need to make a new background.png and replace it in one of those folders.
@@PhazerTech I will one day make my own. thanks for the reply!
Are these software safe to use? I am concerned just about this.
They're safe as far as I can tell, keep in mind any app that reads hardware sensors requires admin rights in Windows.
Good video man, thank you. I agreed with you, this product is good and cheap. Don't know why Jayz's so butthurt about this. He just kept ranting. Anyways, among the "famous" tech youtubers, he is the worst and I very rarely watch his contents.
Thank you! He can be entertaining sometimes but half the time he doesn't know what he's talking about. It's the LTT model.
Huh. Jayz actually deleted comments? Thats weird
Did you say something with "turing-smart-screen"? It seems he set that as an auto-delete keyword, oddly enough. The same thing happened to me shortly after he released that video, which is what gave me the idea to do this video.
@@PhazerTech Average corpo sellout (you in 5 years)
@@Theodoric99 lmao let's hope not 😆
is the software safe?
Yes it appears to be safe.
MedIum
I can use it as a second screen, or with Wallpaper Engine or AIDA64?
Not really, this requires software to communicate what to show, does not work as a regular display, but there's some other models which run with HDMI and even are touch screen equipped, I was thinking on getting one just to control Voicemeeter but I went the DIY DAW device
Yes it work with Aida64.
When you start up Aida you can choose the brand and type of screen you use, and it will be detected.
The only thing you need to do is to download some skins or make on yourself.
it doesn't show correct information. I got the 3.5 inch version and all the information displayed are wrong. It has no AIDA64 compatibility either.
That's odd, I haven't heard of that issue before. I suggest trying the Python app instead: th-cam.com/video/NzN-tQ5lkYc/w-d-xo.html
I downloaded the software & it asks what app I want to open it with ...none of the choices work ...can't open the download. Any suggestions ...because at this point ...I agree with Jay!!!
Look at the file extension. It's a .rar archive, right? If so then you need a program that can extract .rar. I suggest 7-Zip.
Thank you very much ...I'll try it & post the results here.
That worked ...thanks again ...& I subscribed to your channel
@@MsTheCops Awesome glad to hear it worked and thanks for subscribing!!
Can you get it to display FPS?
At the moment I don't believe so
JTC is an RGB lover so not enough eye candy light show for his taste and he's ego tripping lol
I'll haver to go with jay on this one. The screen itself is not the problem, the software is crap, and I really say this because it was advertised as 'plug and play' but it wasn't, imo. To be fair, I was going to return it, I got the return label from Amazon etc. But I ended up keeping it and did some tinkering its okay, so I'm keeping it. Keep in mind as well, there are two screens, one from xuanfang and one using turing software which seems easier to use, I have the xuanfang.
But for the price, I think a 5 inch screen that connects to the HDMI makes more sense. You can do a lot more with the display.
I cant open the zip file 😫 plz help
For the official Windows software? If so I think it's a .rar file. You can install 7zip to extract .rar files
Biased opinions are just that. It is a neat product that does not require a subscription. I am skeptic of the software, but early reports are positive. JTC is bought and paid for, so it is his interest to push his sponsors. No foul, just life. Thanks for the risk.
Yep I agree there's nothing necessarily wrong with what he does in general, but every once in a while a clear bias comes out which borderlines as unethical. Just wondering, what did you mean by "risk" in your comment?
Didnt take long to tell that most of what JayZee says is utter pish. Gemers nexus, and Zachstechtips are the only ones that dont b.s anyone.
What game is that ?
The first one was Shadow of the Tomb Raider and the second was Metro Exodus.
I'm just getting Device not found error. Using Windows 11 and have tested it with my USB 3.1 and 3.2 ports. So for me this is useless so far.
You might have better luck with a USB 2.0 port.
@@PhazerTech It shows up in my devices but without the driver and a yellov triangle. I looked for a driver but all i can see was the cdc.inf file.
@@ToxiloGames I think it has something to do with Windows 11. I don't use Win 11 so I can't say for sure, but I was able to find this thread with other users experiencing the same issue.
github.com/mathoudebine/turing-smart-screen-python/issues/54
This thread is from the turing-smart-screen python app github page, but they also discuss the manufacturer provided software too. I suggest trying both if you haven't already.
Same I'm getting hardware sensor not found message through all my usb ports and I'm on Win 10
Jay's a MOOK! This screen is bad ass!
😆👍
Un excelente análisis. Gracias por el video.
Gracias!
40 bucks USD? it cost me 24 AUD
I included links for both Amazon and AliExpress, the latter has it for around $15 USD.
What game is it?
The games shown in this video were Shadow of the Tomb Raider and Metro Exodus.
I never realized j was such a prima Donna but I hardly watch his channel, so I guess that stands to reason. Thanks for bringing this information to light. I'll be sure and unsub from him.
I'm not sure if he's seen this or not but he does seem to be self-aware enough to admit that his content has been slipping. I hope it serves as motivation for him to do better.
Yo will it
Support
Gifs?
The library only supports png at this time. It might be possible to do animations but it would require you to code your own library.
@@PhazerTech yo can make it possbile i dont know how to code , do mess with it bro
80p on ali right now
When you want to lern Python a few month and after that spend hours of programm - its wonderful.........but most of peaople want to use it with Windows-User-Skills and make some own Mods in a few minutes
The included software works perfectly fine. As far as custom mods go, it doesn't matter which screen you buy, if you want it customized then you'll need to learn programming.
@@PhazerTech or buy an really good one. its nothing for far over 99 percent of users. no aida64 support instead the crappiest software ever. sorry.. really bad product. maybe you have fun with it.
@@mimu9599 It depends what you're buying it for. If you want aida64 support then go ahead and pay $100 US for a really good screen. If you're like most users who are on a budget and just want something simple to display temperatures and CPU/GPU utilization, then this screen works perfectly fine and it costs a fraction of the price.
@@PhazerTech no there is an usb solution for only a few more bucks from bandea that is recognized as an real monitor in windows... so full abilities with that..... i am from germany
@@mimu9599 Can you show me the product you're talking about? Links are allowed here.
In his opinion it was crap. Say it again, it was his opinion that it's crap. You feel it's pretty good. Opinion are what you think and feel so it's not wrong. Keep in mind that Jay tends to work with a lot of high end equipment. This screen appears to fall far short of high end. That doesn't make it bad for the average user or maybe even some high end users. Personally I prefer no less than a 5" screen with a decent resolution for a sensor panel. I wouldn't even consider such a small screen. That's me, you might feel different and that's fine.
It's my opinion you did this video calling Jay out for a viewer grab and not because you actually like this tiny screen. Why else did your video show up in my suggestions? You got to start somewhere and if it works then good job.
He said things that are flat out untrue and disingenuous, and it's clear he was smearing it just to drive views to his other videos. Also like I pointed out in my video, the python library works flawlessly for people who want to incorporate it into their own projects. He didn't even mention this in his "review". Did you even watch my video? Doesn't seem like it, but yet here you are leaving a lengthy 2 paragraph rant. Seems like you just got triggered that I would even dare to question your idol Jay.
Also a product isn't "crap" just because the size doesn't fit your needs. The resolution is very crisp and the size was clearly mentioned in the product listing, so why would you and Jay complain so much about that as if you were tricked? It's not the product's fault you can't read. That's like someone buying a 13" Macbook and saying it's absolute crap because it's too small. My response would be: Well genius, maybe you should have bought the 15" Macbook instead? That doesn't mean the 13" is absolute crap.
But then again, who cares about logic and common sense.
Jay likes his windows ease of use gear. Linux and doing small code/appget installs isnt his thing. Probably why he rate it so poorly. Jayz a little like Sudo-Appge..I'm bored, fackit!
Well mine is pure shit
Is that you Jay? Can you describe what's wrong with it or are you just trolling?
@@PhazerTech nope just a user who bought one, and found it useless is all.
Okay, so you can't describe what's wrong with it. Color me surprised.
Can someone help me troubleshoot this panel not detecting my gpu and giving incorrect cpu load readings?
The refresh rate is terrible. Damn.
The whole run with admin rights is a none start for me that sounds a cheap way for hacker to make money while selling you something that can backdoor your security. super sketch. Im with J on that
As I already said in the video, admin rights are required to access the hardware sensors. Even the panels Jay promotes require admin rights, so the entire argument is a nonstarter and disingenuous. If someone is truly concerned about security then they shouldn't even be considering a sensor panel to begin with, nor should you run any software that reads hardware info. In fact, you shouldn't be using Windows at all if you're concerned about privacy.
it dosent work wtf
I also bought this peace of crap it stop working , the edit it does nothing and also waited 1 month and half for this peace of crap !!
The product as a whole is crap. There is many garbage displays that have shit quality with shit software.
#trustmebro