Pet cloning: Man's best friend, again
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 21 ก.ย. 2024
- When their 12-year-old dog Marley was diagnosed with cancer, the Tschirhart family couldn't bear to say goodbye. So, they turned to ViaGen Pets, of Austin, Texas, a company that has cloned hundreds of pets for a multitude of grateful owners. Correspondent Tracy Smith checks out what the right amount of love, science and money can bring to an animal lover.
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remember a genetic clone is just same DNA, but Emotions, Experiences, and the soul is most probably not the same...
The clone of this dog isnt the same as the one that was lost
A Clone is just an identical Twin. No more no less.
That is very true but I think that fact is lost on some people.
“Soul”
It's not about getting your pet back. It's about having a pet with similar temperament and intelligence. Some animals are so unique that cloning is worth it to regain the genetic line. Especially if they were neutered at a young age with no chance of having puppies.
No such thing as soul just a concept made by man to make us feel better about death
So they are hiking on a trail known to have rattle snakes with no cell phones , miles from a hospital and she is also pregnant. These people are not making smart choices in life including having a deceased dog cloned.
First red flag for me was that they named a boy dog “Marley “.
Lol what exactly is wrong with cloning a dead dog?
Came here to see if anyone thought the same thing lol.
I've had many dogs - loved them all. But my big boy Booker was so special, so wonderful. I could never do this because I feel it would somehow dilute his memory...
I agree, I think it's interesting, but as much as I do not want to ever be without my babies, but I know a clone wouldn't be them, it would be a genetic copy, but it wouldn't be the same. Nothing could ever compare.
@@billjamal4764 yes it mite look the same act the same but in your heart it is just a new pet that costs 50,000$
As much as I would want to keep my pets with me forever, when it’s time, it’s time. My pets are irreplaceable and I’ll always have my memories with them and they will always be in my heart.
Even if you clon it, it won’t be the same dog, this is highly unethical though, since dogs have primary consciousness, we don’t know what would the genetical impact be if it reproduces along generations, it could be a death sentence to the whole offspring of this dog.
Friend, I understand where you might be coming from, but there is a certain level of love and a certain pain and losing that love that you would do literally anything to have the option. It’s not the same dog BUT the love you feel for that animal exist in every cellular memory. and yes, they will be in your heart, but that bond is something that cannot be explained
Labs pretty much look a like without the cloning... I bet they just gave them a puppy and charged a bundle.
I know right!
Seriously!
Most likely, unless Marley had a unique birth marking, its hard to tell one yellow lab from another.
@@Bricklinsv1970 L1
The last and most important lesson your dog teaches you is how to deal with Death.
Go adopt a shelter animal you freaking weirdos.
Hard but true. Your dog would want all that ❤️ and scratches go to another dog.
Don't do this! I lost my dog 4 years ago and she was the closest thing I've ever had to a partner. I literally mean that. But I wouldn't clone her. She wasn't and isn't replaceable... This makes my heart sick! And $50,000 would save millions.
That company is all about $$.
If u gave $1 to 50,000 people you would save millions? Makes since
Cannot agree more 😯🙏🏻
So because YOU wouldn’t clone your dog I shouldn’t clone mine? What gives you the right to decide that for me?
@@sdf6508 what gives you the right to assume ownership of an animal's unique genetic code? I have a unique genetic code and I would not consent to a clone of me being made beyond my death. This is abhorrent.
Wow, you “literally” mean that . Seriously, if you “literally” mean that then it must be true, “literally.”
I recently had to lay my little baby doll to rest because of cancer. I raised her from the time. She was five weeks old the little runt of the litter who was the sweetest most loving dog. I did have her to get a preserved, and one day after an appropriate time has passed, I will clone her.
And I thank viagen they were very sympathetic, and very helpful when I was in tears. This option is one that gives you comfort in a very difficult time.
All my fur babies were rescues. That is just pure stupidity. Doing this cheapens the memory of your last dog. This family could have given another homeless, abused or unloved dog a chance at a better life. Plus that $50k could have been used to help a poor families, save lives or help with childrens cancer treatments. This is why some people don't deserve large amounts of money because they waste it money on nonsense.
Not all people have large amounts of money, some people put in 60+ hour weeks for the money they earn. They should spend it on what is important to them. They earned it, so it's their decision if they want a similar version of an animal they enjoy. Who are you to say that's a waste.
Um, I thought they were just going to get another labrador while the original dog was alive to ingratiate it into the family. But spending $50 K for a clone?!?! That money isn't going towards their daughters future? Are they uber rich? So many questions!🤷
It’s THEIR money. They don’t appear to be in poverty.
Too many dogs need to be rescued. Shameful!
I understand is hard to clone a animal. But I thing there are a lot of pets that are alive needing love. Because when your children die are you going to clone them? I mean people needs to learn how to grive.
...& spell 'grieve'...or just use the built-in spell-check!
@@menotu4870 I speak spanish
This is disrespectful and dishonors the life of the first pet. It makes me sad how they think of this dog as the same as the first. What’s special anymore
I view this as more like getting a sibling of your dog as opposed to an exact clone, it won't be the same dog, but it'll be close and might help some people grieve their lost pet with a sibling of sorts to fill that hole
Come on now this is unhealthy psychologically
Exactly, when that clone dies, what happens, same 3rd clone?
@@andromeda4641 if they choose to. If I had the money I would definitely clone my dog.
Boo
I wish we could have puppies with my boy Chuy's genetics. He is an incredible guy that everyone falls in live with. He was neutered as a puppy. Cloning is the only option to continue his line.
50k?!?! That’s more then A Baby lol
Not if the baby is CLONED!
No shelter dog? So many dogs need homes, and these greedy people drop 50K for a dog they could’ve found at a rescue?
Simply selfish.
shelter dogs are often abused and mean and old and don't turn out to be good dogs. There is nothing wrong with getting a new puppy that you can raise and make memories with and get to have for even longer. You get a better connection with the dog when you knew it since it was a puppy. Not to mention how cute puppies are
The time, love, and trust I shared with my dog was irreplaceable and having a clone of my him would be shi**ing all over that.
"With the right amount of love, science, and Money. You really don't need to say goodbye".
This oddly sounds like an episode of Black Mirror 🤣
If that’s Marley than why is the lady remembering last words and crying......because she knows that other Marley is gone.
My dog just passed away 3 hour ago I will like to bring her back
My two great dogs were Ziggy/standard poodle. Then Marlee was a female labradoodle. We have saved cells for 2 dogs with Viagen.
Cloning kills the divinty of life.
For some they see this as a new way to insure you get the reincarnation of your animal.
It's literally just creating an identical twin of an animal
prove it
entitled, inhumane, immoral, insane!
That other dog is not Marley. It's just another dog with the same DNA.
Death comes to all of us. Enjoy the time you have. Don't try and keep a memory alive out of fear and desperation.
I love my dog to death. But every dog after her will probably be a rescue
I wonder if the clone a dalmation the spots will be exactly the same
98%
That's actually an interesting thought.🤔🐶
Probably not totally, but you wouldn't be able to tell.
I love my dogs more than anything on this Earth. As much as I would want to have them cloned and have them back again I know that it would never be them. I cherish each and every moment I have with them now
If a pet died of cancer, wouldn’t the clone eventually succumb to the same fate?
Most likely yes.
Got it, I'm gonna need 150k in a few years.
They went on a dangerous hike while four months pregnant without their cellphones?
Something wrong with people that they are unable to deal with a natural part of life.....death.
Uhm.. very many people struggle with death. Nothing is wrong with those people. No need to be so hateful.
Let people clone their pets, it's not more inhumane then having your dog get pregnant
Cloning is sick.
Spend your money on much needed therapy instead!
Why you shouldn't make us see the cloning processo with some pictures of the new boy
That story made me cry 😢
yall talking about how it takes away from the first dog but fr tho how do they even clone?!?!
I wouldn’t clone my dog not because I am against it. My dog is just a little bit too crazy 😂. I couldn’t see my self with the 2.0 version lol
I think pets can’t be replaced. My dog passed away in December 2021. I feel lost without him but I couldn’t get a lookalike. A lookalike wouldn’t have the same personality as the original
Cloning Endangered Species. Definitely. But with so many animals in shelters the idea of spending 50 grand on a clone feels immoral.
wouldn't the clone be likely to have cancer too??
So many dogs in need now. Use money to help them.
1/25/2022 I just lost my best friend after close to 17 years I couldn’t imagine doing it all over again to see him die again .
My boy had cancer in the Spleen he was tuff but know match for cancer he was Weathering away so I had to make the most hardest Decision in my life . I was so Struggling with burying him because I’d have to put him far away so I decided to have him cremated.
I’m going to place some ashes around the place he loved so much to go the ocean ,and place some in a tree of life Ash chain and plant a tree with some of his ashes so he may grow give life in some way to the tree .
Max is and always will be on my mind what a loyal dog he was and is he will always be around in my heart the hole is deep with out him around but I will watch all the videos we’ve made together to lessen the pain .
I’m happy for him that he has his friends waiting to reunite I pray and I hope we will be able to see each other again with all our friends .
He’s taught me a lot about my feelings towards others making me check my heart on how I feel towards other people when he passed I realized how cold my heart was to those around me so I will work on theses things he made me see .
Have a good journey my boy and bark for me when I pass so I can find the way to you and those who we knew I also hope you find that big green patch of grass that you so loved to run around on .
So strange how many people find cloning pets to be unethical or disrespectful. If my kid dies very young in a car wreck or something worse, I would most definitely want to clone her. Same with my dog Eddie. If I had the money before she died, I would have done it no question. Named the clone Eddie too. Literally reincarnation. I think it's amazing personally and I do respect the other opinions I'm reading here however I do not understand them.
How long until they clone people of lost loved ones? Might be clones of us in the future
They already have in China.
Poor original Marley, he has been replaced by another dog that looks exactly like him. That isn't really respectful to the original dog honestly. It's basically saying all Marley was, was his physical appearance because cloning the appearance doesn't clone the personality and that dog still hasn't had those experiences/memories with you. You cannot replace a dog and it isn't respectful to the original dog to try to replace it. The best thing to do is remember the dog and the memories you had with the dog and get a new different dog in time, not forgetting or replacing your original dog but making new memories/experiences with a new puppy
Why can’t we do this with endangered animals?
Since dogs don't live as long as humans, I wonder how many more clones of this dog that they will make. If the price drops considerably more people would clone their pets. Now I wonder when people will start cloning humans. Imagine losing a child to an accident. The temptation would be irresistible.
you still have to retrain the dog and he doesnt remember you, or do the same things
They should clone Jimi Hendrix.
Go Blue
I want my lost one clon. But I dont have her tissue. I only have part of her toenail which I found in the carpet.😢
That's awesome, I will clone my 2 cats too
I heard that story in a new scholastic article!
This kind of behavior makes me feel sick
So crazy! Does the clone dog have the same personality as the original dog?
Not entirely... Most of that is environmental.
@@menotu4870 How do you know? What percent is environmental?
@@digitalblasphemy1100 I train dogs. 90+%.
Yes. They clone the memories too.
If it's the genes of the dog it should develop into the same
This and AI needs to be monitored more than nuclear weapons.
I don't know man on one hand I understand why someone would want this and on the other I feel they're disrespecting the memory of the original. I could never do this honestly. The memories of my animals will live on with me and once they're gone we can create new memories with different pets for our children and so on and so forth. It just feels wrong. An amazing scientific accomplishment for sure but this should be used for cloning extincted animals back in my opinion
You don’t know what happens to the other pups in the clone batch you pay for. Imagine the other clones of the litter , the other clones of your beloved pet just discarded … :(
I Lost My Boy of 11 Years in May,my Only Companion and I Could go on For Months on How MUCH I Loved Him but Time Heals! AND… I KNOW I Will See Him Again!! 😄 He wasn’t just a Pet He was Family, and there was a Bond that Only God could have Given Me with Him! I’ll See “Shadow”AGAIN! 🥲😌
A few things they never mentioned, was there could easily be failed results. Like embryos that never developed past the embryo stage to puppies being born and not looking just right. So, that means there could easily be multiple tries to get the clone just right. I think the famous Dolly the sheep, had as many as 100s of tries to get a successful birth and that’s common, to have a lot of retries. Also that clones have the same genetic defects as the original, so if that cancer that took the original Marley’s life was genetic, then that same cancer will claim the clone, as well. Lastly clones’ DNA is based off the original’s DNA at the time the sample was taken and DNA ages with us, so the cloned dogs will have shorter life-spans, then the original, unless the DNA was taken when the original was still a puppy. Also it’s just a clone of the original’s body, while the personality can never be cloned.
End the end it’s not worth the hassle to even clone your pet, since there might be some place that will clone cats. I wished those people just adopted a new dog or cat, when their beloved pet passes away, since there are too many dogs and cats being born and thrown into animal shelters, all ready. And buying a shelter dog is way cheaper then getting a clone.
So it's basically an identical twin..body same while personality never will be?
Wouldn’t this just make it 2x harder when you have to finally let go
Miss my dog youbert see in in heaven bud
R.I.P Marley 😭😭
This makes me feel kinda sick... its unnatural...
Thought it was outlawed in the US
I once saw a a family who went to pick up their cloned puppy. It was the strangest thing to see that the puppy already knew the family. Just crazy it's almost something genetics should not play games with. The only way I can describe it is the newborn puppy that was cloned already knew its family from the previous DNA
Looks like he’s got a couple clones of his wife too. Best wife ever. She warned me about a snake. Seriously these maize and blue jackasses who so badly want people to know they’re Michigan alums are pitiful in so many ways. At least they have their wealth to protect them from the realities of life.
Unlike YOU?!
You must be a fan too or at least hater. You know the colors maize and blue. Not yellow/gold and blue.
@@49ers5xchamps2 Wisconsin alum
Are they able to make clones with dna samplew from a dog that has been dead for 20 years? If i win the lottery ill go dig up my childhood dog. In fact ill clone all my familys dogs. They are all burried in my grandmas back yard. Be crazy to clone my moms childhood dog
Thinking about how many dogs they could have saved in a shelter and probably found a purebred puppy that would have similar character and demeanor just makes me sad. I think cloning devalues the animal you copy and the genes don't always come out "pure" so the faulty puppies get disposed of not to mention that the success rate is around 30% so there has to be a lot of animal suffering involved to get the "perfect clone". There is also a high chance of deformity in the cloned puppies. You will just never see them cause they get rid of them beforehand. Don't believe me? Do your own research. Korean companies have published some of their data.
J P. They, Koreans probably eat the disposable rejects.
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So basically the first animal clone was a sheep in 1996 when technology wasn't that good. Fast forward to 2021 you think they clone humans.
come on, you have to know the russians and chinese have. Probably cloned them in the US too. We will likely hear about it in some freedom information that comes out 30 years after the fact.
I miss you howie
I don’t know where people’s hearts are when they decide this is what they need to do after their beloved pet has passed.
I would be traumatized if I saw my kitty again. My chest still hurts from his passing. But bringing him back like that would just be straight wrong. Something about the whole concept feels seriously off
Yea but where is the ruh?
Creepy
Sun Morning should do a segment on why pet cloning is considered inhumane by many people. Here's an excerpt to read this entire article:
www.dailypaws.com/living-with-pets/pet-owner-relationship/pet-cloning
"In order to clone a cat or dog it takes numerous attempts. Downing says that the cloning process doesn’t work about 75% of the time. Implanted embryos don’t take to the surrogate, miscarriages happen, and pets are born with birth defects.
"That means a whole host of cats or dogs have to be on hand to donate eggs and act as surrogates. These lab animals undergo procedures that mostly fail to produce a clone.
"And it's not a pain-free process for the animals, either. Downing says that animals are "definitely harmed" during cloning. The egg donor is subjected to hormonal treatments and surgical egg harvesting. Surrogates receive multiple rounds of hormones to prepare for pregnancy and surgical implantation of embryos. Then, offspring who have birth defects suffer doubly, both in being created, and then when euthanized as a result of their deformities."
I miss my dog dearly, but this is just pure disrespect to the original dog.
you cannot play god eventually something will go wrong
Pet Cemetery
Too creepy. And Barbra your dogs will all have that same sweet temperament if you raise them the same. I’ve had the best two dogs 1987 and 2008.
How much for a cat?
Enjoy the limited time we have with our loved ones, pets, let's hope it's longer then short, if we have a do-over with something/someone we as human nature don't appreciate somethings unlimited, plus the soul of the animal is different, it's the soul that we fall in love with, that can never be replaced.
just wow
The wealth envy in these comments is real.
I need to add another perspective. We are thinking of cloning our dog. It’s a lot of money, yes, but we can afford it because of many years of hard work, sweat and tears. We’re also proud to have adopted and saved many pets too. Also, proud to have given many thousands of dollars to pet charities, and Humane Society’s in several states and will continue to help animals that can’t help themselves. 🐾❣️🐾
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@@traceyskaar4843 I could’ve written your comment word-for-word - except replace “dog” with “cat.”. ❤️
I feel like they should have banned the dog Pandora
Somehow this makes the original pet seem less special. Their memory replaced by a new dog that is exactly like them, but isn't. The best things in life come to an end, that's why we should appreciate them when we have them.
If you love your dog, you don’t replace him with a clone. Creepy.
so by cloning marley, you think you will get the same dog? Just adopt another dog smh (or purchase from a breeder if you must). they can and will be just as loyal and protective as marley despite not looking like him. also don't you think it's unfair that you're just lying to yourself and pretending ziggy is actually marley, rather than recognising ziggy as his own individual???
This is what happens when people try to play god/creator once they have the tech. Cloning as a whole, still creeps me out. Aint no way this should be acceptable. Im sorry but cloning a pet that passed, for that much? It should be outlawed.
That shows people really dont care as much as they say they do, cuz if u really loved your pet, you would let them rest in peace and not create a duplicate version of them with no attachments to u, saying they reborn just because u cant let go. Bro they not reborn, u messed with the natural order of life and you skipping the grieving process. Just get a new pet, like wtf man
And another thing, what if it failed. Then what? Are they gonna talk about that? I really doubt it.
Attachment to things creates suffering. Our egos and desires are the things that destroy our true nature and what life has to offer. And if you have $50k to spare, wish that money would go help those in need rather our selfish needs aka cloning our pets.
The humane society is the worst animal abuser than this place
Playing god without the wisdom.
Playing with 🔥 that ain’t Right
Still a controversial topic
It's wrong ...and I hates ... There are lots of people loves what we do.... talk backs...
The grief over losing a furry member of the family can be unbearable to some people (me included) so I understand why someone would want to have a clone made. Personally, I wouldn't because you cannot clone their essence or soul...