not true, i think deepwoken was inherently made for pvp and the ai is relatively mid, but the game would’ve been way better if they focused on one instead of trying to be a jack of all trades
in Layer 2 in the nest Corridor with the quote on quote Bounder chase (it sucks I wish we could replace it with like the big snake sequence in Sekiro its quite the near the start and hearing it rumble through the mountains and scream as it chases after you threw the snowy mountains is actually terrifying and they missed out on that feeling
Deepwoken had so much potential for pve but started focusing too much on pvp and isnt even going in the direction the developers orginally envisioned, I want more lore more changes not just pvp only
My idea would be to have the npc that gives you the quest save you 2 times (so technically 3 lives) so you have a chance to learn the boss and after that first time you don’t receive their help anymore.
I'm actually kind of struggling with maestro, turns out making it so you can't just posture break the boss and not having them do absolutely nothing for 10 seconds actually makes it hard.
only reliable way of killing him prov thorns rn. Devs should actually lower his posture alot if they insist on making him immune to instant guard breaks
I was horrible before To1 origin became free, because I never spent the time to go there since I would always lose on Sharko and I'd have to go all the way back. When to1 origin became free I got significantly better in like 10 hours of gameplay compared to the 30 I spent just killing bandits
@@jetstream_sam69420 i only support flame wep bc idk i think they would add a flame boss (a amorus pleeksty apprentice maybe?) and the drop would be the leg flame wep
@@joma_0 they something about a flame boss that uses purple flame (amorous pleeksty himself since he only knows purple flame) I hope the flame legendary isn't a gun, rifle, any hammer, rapier and dagger the only light weapon I would be ok with it's fist, also a flame jus karita would be crazy.
I think the reason they made the whole path to chaser in layer 2 is to give people a chance to get more loot, I mean after all you CAN kill some mobs and get chests from it. YES it’s annoying to get to chaser but it provides something for teammates to do while someone gets a chaser to teleport everyone, that’s just what I think.
I see your point, but we got a bit of an issue and the devs know this issue, which is the emptiness of the overworked itself, and so far they've been trying to make the over world seem more crowded, and less empty, drifting islands was part of it
Alot of these issues have to do with the DVM system. At one point you had to make a choice of what damage increase you wanted. But because of that most players played with things they felt benefitted them more thus making basic mobs harder. I remember in verse 1 when I fought a corrupted sharko and it took me like 20-30 hits to kill it. But now most pve builds can two shot it. Its not so much of the monsters being too easy. If most people did hell mode with normal builds they'd wipe everytime unless they had a plan. You see the issue now. My say in fixing this would be reverting back to that system so the player base for pve builds would have to make a choice. Go all in for giant damage,Go all in for Sea or depths damage. Now if your saying that would be very annoying. Yeah it would be back during the time. Now if you wanna keep other sets on yourself for different purposes you can literally just place an enchant on the item and have it stay there without the chance of dropping. Do this and suddenly everything is alot harder to deal with and fight. I can't remember the last time I parried a sharko but with a change like this. You'd have to
Mambles, king of yaps the number 1 glazer of deepwoken brings us another rambling to tell us that deepwoken does too much handholding (the devs dont wanna go the difficult game route )
@@dukenintendo when you on 120 ping it actually feels like you are a real person in the deepwoken world, like most people in deepwoken can't fight monsters, hell most people can't even fight, so it's actually a life or death scenario when you see a sharko or a thresher rather than just a free health pack or exp.
i kinda had an opposite situation for a long time. i was quick to take to1 and could essentially beat any overworld mob but when it came to ethiron i spent SOO LONG tryna learn to beat it. retrospectively i was always almost expecting to wipe (thanks daily dose of deepwoken for the ptsd) so i guess that may have been a reason i spent so long tryna learn ethiron
I mean you only seeing bosses from a max level point of view most players don’t ever beat duke still like 4 months into the game and more if you playing alone and without many experienced
Tbh there should be something like training hall where you can face bosses without any reward or exp also taking 1 knowledge ech time you fight with a ,,boss,, then bosses wouldnt need to be easy for new players
I've seen Layer 2, but im on my silent heart, and im on console as much as i want to do it. i want my friends with me, but most of my friends really don't play deepwoken that much, and some of them say its too hard and are afraid of wiping. I've gotten used to it, but i think without friends for deepwoken, it's so boring yea you could do chime, but let's be real chime is so boring now you after you get bell whats there to do after grind new weapons yea but deepwoken needs new quest new bosses new mobs and a new island the sea events they added are a step in the RIGHT DIRECTION
I agree, however, I don't think you can learn a boss in five tries or less, especially with something like Duke or Maestro. I only point these two out because, I despise them with everything in my heart why are they so painful to learn and or fight, but from experience I feel like you sort of hit the nail on the head indirectly, or directly idk im too lazy to rewind the video. You either get sent to the depths, have to risk your life and *hopefully* get back to the boss without wanting to jump off of a tall building or get frustrated by the, in my opinion, lazy-ish mechanics. I get that all bosses can't be unique or special, but between a boring and needlessly tedious autoparry shield that has you fighting Duke "Indecisive Mage or Professional Boxer" Erisia or Maestro All-your-health-is-gone-because-im-built-different-garden, its truly block parry dodge. Not sure if this even makes any sense I'm just a returning player getting readjusted and im noticing that the developers while having a fun game, lack the ability to freshen what they have instead of just making another buffed up bandit with some "unique" mechanic. yes this was also an excuse to yap about me hating these two, I cannot stand their fights.
I’d say that maestro is probably the best boss in the game currently, very difficult but also easy to bounce back if you fail. He has ALOT of flaws still but as it stands I think he is the closest to what a deepwoken boss *should* be
Tips for enforcer *He's basically a parry check, just focus on parry trades (ie. parry when he attacks and attack once afterward) *Get in crits whenever possible *If he feints, dodge and purely parry twice before going back to parry trading.
Deepwoken could be way better if they didnt started to focus only on pvp
Deepwoken could've been way better if they didn't started focusing on PvE
@@redstaria963Deepwoken is mostly inspired from souls like games which are pve games.
@@redstaria963 Deepwoken's combat system was inspired by sekuro (sekuro doesn't have pvp)
@@redstaria963 fym bro
not true, i think deepwoken was inherently made for pvp and the ai is relatively mid, but the game would’ve been way better if they focused on one instead of trying to be a jack of all trades
2:45 this is basically how deepwoken's whole perma death system can be explained.
in Layer 2 in the nest Corridor with the quote on quote Bounder chase (it sucks
I wish we could replace it with like the big snake sequence in Sekiro its quite the near the start and hearing it rumble through the mountains and scream as it chases after you threw the snowy mountains is actually terrifying and they missed out on that feeling
it's prolly just cuz you've done it so many times, but that shit was scaryyyy when i first did it
Deepwoken had so much potential for pve but started focusing too much on pvp and isnt even going in the direction the developers orginally envisioned, I want more lore more changes not just pvp only
My idea would be to have the npc that gives you the quest save you 2 times (so technically 3 lives) so you have a chance to learn the boss and after that first time you don’t receive their help anymore.
I'm actually kind of struggling with maestro, turns out making it so you can't just posture break the boss and not having them do absolutely nothing for 10 seconds actually makes it hard.
only reliable way of killing him prov thorns rn. Devs should actually lower his posture alot if they insist on making him immune to instant guard breaks
I was horrible before To1 origin became free, because I never spent the time to go there since I would always lose on Sharko and I'd have to go all the way back. When to1 origin became free I got significantly better in like 10 hours of gameplay compared to the 30 I spent just killing bandits
Super true
Taught myself f2 in 1 day and f2 in 2 so speaking from experience i can say yeah they were way too easy and we need the flame legendary weapon
FLAMECHARM PLAYERS RISE UP!! WE NEED THAT FLAME LEGENDARY WEAPON!!!
@@jetstream_sam69420 i only support flame wep bc idk i think they would add a flame boss (a amorus pleeksty apprentice maybe?) and the drop would be the leg flame wep
@@joma_0 they something about a flame boss that uses purple flame (amorous pleeksty himself since he only knows purple flame) I hope the flame legendary isn't a gun, rifle, any hammer, rapier and dagger the only light weapon I would be ok with it's fist, also a flame jus karita would be crazy.
I think the reason they made the whole path to chaser in layer 2 is to give people a chance to get more loot, I mean after all you CAN kill some mobs and get chests from it. YES it’s annoying to get to chaser but it provides something for teammates to do while someone gets a chaser to teleport everyone, that’s just what I think.
The chase section after ethiron is harder than the boss it self
Its a slip once and wipe
I see your point, but we got a bit of an issue and the devs know this issue, which is the emptiness of the overworked itself, and so far they've been trying to make the over world seem more crowded, and less empty, drifting islands was part of it
Alot of these issues have to do with the DVM system. At one point you had to make a choice of what damage increase you wanted. But because of that most players played with things they felt benefitted them more thus making basic mobs harder. I remember in verse 1 when I fought a corrupted sharko and it took me like 20-30 hits to kill it. But now most pve builds can two shot it. Its not so much of the monsters being too easy. If most people did hell mode with normal builds they'd wipe everytime unless they had a plan. You see the issue now. My say in fixing this would be reverting back to that system so the player base for pve builds would have to make a choice. Go all in for giant damage,Go all in for Sea or depths damage. Now if your saying that would be very annoying. Yeah it would be back during the time. Now if you wanna keep other sets on yourself for different purposes you can literally just place an enchant on the item and have it stay there without the chance of dropping. Do this and suddenly everything is alot harder to deal with and fight. I can't remember the last time I parried a sharko but with a change like this. You'd have to
Mambles, king of yaps the number 1 glazer of deepwoken brings us another rambling to tell us that deepwoken does too much handholding (the devs dont wanna go the difficult game route )
Bruh, if u want the game to be harder, just play on servers that arent your own /:
Thats every server for me@@KrissCrimson
@@KrissCrimson how tf is playing on higher ping an acceptable substitute to making the game harder
@@dukenintendo because it is harder?
@@dukenintendo when you on 120 ping it actually feels like you are a real person in the deepwoken world, like most people in deepwoken can't fight monsters, hell most people can't even fight, so it's actually a life or death scenario when you see a sharko or a thresher rather than just a free health pack or exp.
Ngl I've "died" more in layer 2 by falling in the last parkour segment than I have to Chaser.
Yeah…. That’s about it. It’s just that. Great. Explanation that was really what I was thinking.
i kinda had an opposite situation for a long time. i was quick to take to1 and could essentially beat any overworld mob but when it came to ethiron i spent SOO LONG tryna learn to beat it. retrospectively i was always almost expecting to wipe (thanks daily dose of deepwoken for the ptsd) so i guess that may have been a reason i spent so long tryna learn ethiron
Yeah, i pretty much beat the entire game solo in like 2 weeks ☠️
I mean you only seeing bosses from a max level point of view most players don’t ever beat duke still like 4 months into the game and more if you playing alone and without many experienced
Tbh there should be something like training hall where you can face bosses without any reward or exp also taking 1 knowledge ech time you fight with a ,,boss,, then
bosses wouldnt need to be easy for new players
I've seen Layer 2, but im on my silent heart, and im on console as much as i want to do it. i want my friends with me, but most of my friends really don't play deepwoken that much, and some of them say its too hard and are afraid of wiping. I've gotten used to it, but i think without friends for deepwoken, it's so boring yea you could do chime, but let's be real chime is so boring now you after you get bell whats there to do after grind new weapons yea but deepwoken needs new quest new bosses new mobs and a new island the sea events they added are a step in the RIGHT DIRECTION
Imagine how good deepwoken would be if it wasn't rogue lineage 2
me who still gets lost in firefire caves .-.
I agree, however, I don't think you can learn a boss in five tries or less, especially with something like Duke or Maestro.
I only point these two out because, I despise them with everything in my heart why are they so painful to learn and or fight, but from experience I feel like you sort of hit the nail on the head indirectly, or directly idk im too lazy to rewind the video.
You either get sent to the depths, have to risk your life and *hopefully* get back to the boss without wanting to jump off of a tall building or get frustrated by the, in my opinion, lazy-ish mechanics. I get that all bosses can't be unique or special, but between a boring and needlessly tedious autoparry shield that has you fighting Duke "Indecisive Mage or Professional Boxer" Erisia or Maestro All-your-health-is-gone-because-im-built-different-garden, its truly block parry dodge.
Not sure if this even makes any sense I'm just a returning player getting readjusted and im noticing that the developers while having a fun game, lack the ability to freshen what they have instead of just making another buffed up bandit with some "unique" mechanic.
yes this was also an excuse to yap about me hating these two, I cannot stand their fights.
I’d say that maestro is probably the best boss in the game currently, very difficult but also easy to bounce back if you fail. He has ALOT of flaws still but as it stands I think he is the closest to what a deepwoken boss *should* be
The spear guards are not fair tho can’t argue against it Ragdoll 2 bars of hp and probably gonna get insta stunned by 4 of them through walls
Father mambles
6 WIPES FOR TRIAL OF ONE!? IM STILL TRYING TO KILL THE FUCKING ENFONCER AND I STILL GET WIPED :(
Tips for enforcer
*He's basically a parry check, just focus on parry trades (ie. parry when he attacks and attack once afterward)
*Get in crits whenever possible
*If he feints, dodge and purely parry twice before going back to parry trading.
layer 2 aint shit (i cant get past firfire without getting lost 🙏)
make a build with ice skate and you can skip caverns entirely
Though u have to trigger some point or else you have to go all over again
Truely a true deepwoken moment
i love the danganronpa background music haha
: )
i felt the danganronpa music in my tip
I died to ethiron cuz im shivering from heretic
hi its me yes you prob seen em before dw im not stalking you im jsut always watching
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bro?
HUH???
what is buddy waffling on about 💀💯
Professional waffler
Doordash order video.
yeah...
please add the isle of crows to deepwoken
Oh nah permafrost prison pve?!
I MADE THJIS SAME VIDEO 3 DAYS AGO BRUH
nuh uh
Poor kaido
glazewoken
Layer 3
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I love Rogue Lineage
reaconteur 2
*promosm*
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