Why TMG (Betaine) is Exploding in Popularity
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Haha nice :)
Will TMG help if you are on TRT and your levels are within the normal range while on TRT, or will it only help if your testosterone levels are low?
Sadly your Multivitamin dont ship to Israel. Will that change at some point? Thanks
Hi Doc, I’ve been on TMG for over 10 years. I read year ago that it was good for the body, especially the liver and cardiovascular system. I also read that it turns into SAM-e as it is metabolized in the body. So, I is a cheap way to get those benefits as well.
Microvitamin is already on its 5th revised version. I absolutely respect that he updates the formula continuously in accordance with discoveries and conclusions from his research.
~cursor hovering over betaine one click purchase button in amazon while listening to the whole video on 2x~
I’ve been on TMG for over 10 years. I read year ago that it was good for the body, especially the liver and cardiovascular system. I also read that it turns into SAM-e as it is metabolized in the body. So, I is a cheap way to get those benefits as well.
I would like to see studies for TMG on groups that take creatine versus groups that don't. It seems that TMG's effect may be a result of higher creatine levels and therefore it may be far less effective on those already supplementing with creatine. This is backed up by observations that TMG requires an exercise program to deliver any benefits. Sounds just like creatine supplementaiton to me.
Creatine is cheap too!
TMG made me feel very sick and breathing issues at night, when I took it, with and without creatine.
Yup, that was my first thought as well. More research is needed.
Thanks for all this doc
I've taken TMG for well over 30 years for better digestion. Works very well.
Couch Greg Doucette would disagree and provides proven facts that it is the NMN! His facts? He yells at you at a high pitched whiny voice, that trumps any scientific study!
That *what* is the NMN? What are you talking about, disagree with what???
harder than last time!
There is a really good human RCT on NMN with 3 groups, one on low dose NMN one on high dose NMN and one control group. Both NMN groups experienced a significant increase in exercise endurance. So I’m not sure why Dr Brad Stanford seems to think it probably doesn’t work. The evidence I have seen suggests that it does work.
@vincentpolaczuk4240 check out my NMN video. I go through that study you are referring to
I appreciate your integrity and honesty Dr. Brad. Don't ever change! As an aside, after watching your video on Fatty15, next, you should do a video on Timeline's Mitopure. I sense it's a get-rich-quick scheme promoted by well-known health advocates that should know better.
I had no results but why do you “sense” it’s useless?
@@katisugarbaker7349 I subscribed to it early on in my supplement discovery, and was roped in by the slick marketing and glowing endorsements. I had no results after sticking with it for 4 months. IMO, for what they charge it should be a miracle pill! It's also disturbing when very smart health professionals invest in too many of these new supplement companies. I begin to question what's more important to them: actual human-tested science and beneficial results for a broad cohort, or making a buck? Siim Land called BS on Mitopure and did a damning review. I wonder what Dr. Brad would have to say :)
Physionic covered Mitopure and observed a bit of "chart crime" in conclusions 😁
Make sure to let your doctor know before any blood work is done. I was taking 3 grams ofTMG and from what I can tell it threw off my Creatinine levels, eGRF, bUN and my Creatinine ratio. after not taking it for 2 days and retesting they all came back in normal ranges. Retesting was done 7 days after the first test.
Bro thats normal when you increase creatine levels the residue creatinine is increased as well but it does not mean is a bad thing, creatinine is bad when is high naturaly.
Does that mean your creatinine was shown as high and your eGFR was low after TMG, or was it the other way around? (ie. Was your kidney function shown worse than it actually was or better than it really was?)
3g is a lot of TMG. According to the Micro vitamin pack, it has a daily dose of 500mg.
@@georgen5250 I agree with you. I mentioned it because if you don't let the doctor know they might think there is something wrong with you when there is not and may be looking to try to fix something that is not broken.
@@jamebrow check out some of his other vids about TMG. It would seem that around 3 grams is the amount used in most of the studies he talks about.
If having more muscle is so protective, why is it never discussed or taken into consideration during a check-up? I have a lot of muscle -- been lifting since I was a teen and am in my 50s.... but my PCP looks at my BMI and says "obese" without noting a large amount of my weight is muscle(though, admittedly, I'm not lean). Maybe this is more an American thing where our insurance based healthcare system relies on generalized checklists, instead of individual factors?
My gut response is that there's no money in it for the doctor to recognize a good diet and lifestyle including your high muscle mass. Regular doctors are trained to find symptoms to treat with pharmaceutical drugs.
The optimal doze of TMG, based on the studies is around 3 grams per day. Including 500 mg is neither here nor there, just like some of the other negligible dosages of the included ingredients, such as taurine, glycine and a few others. Dr Brad is very intelligent so would know this, but it's good marketing.
I do enjoy his content though.
TMG has been popular in the bodybuilding community for almost a decade now.
I have never heard about TMG in the 12 years I started informing myself around bodybuilding and nutrition only through this channel maybe a year ago or so. Admittedly I have not been to forums. Where did you first hear about it and also often enough that you call it popular?
@@Paddydapro Betaine anhydrous aka TMG has been in preworkouts for a very long time now. I have used it in bulk since 2014-2015. It was in preworkouts supplements way before that as well.
@@Madevilz okay, interesting, thank you :) have been googling for a few minutes now and found exactly that - meaning preworkouts from a few years ago cool stuff
@@Madevilz Who even bulks anymore... thats so 90's hahahahaha
@@charlesfuchs learn to read, using a supplement in bulk means in large quantity
Good disclaimer.
I take 2g a day. 4g is apparently a safe upper limit.
Opinion on the other trendy herb: Moringa??
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TMG 4g a day for past 5 mo for sure has made a big diff in my recomp results & love that it’s a longevity supplement💪👊
Great video!
It gives me headaches 😂
Thanks 🙏
id love to know your researched opinion on the peptides BPC157 and TB500, allegedly theyre amazing for recovering from broken bones and improving overall recovery function
I heard it gives you tendons of steel.
@@5kribbles 'wolverine combo' I heard, sucks you gotta inject it tho 😅
@MixtrisUFOimages o ya? Doctors not on board with it really?
@@MixtrisUFOimagesNot yawn. How long have you been in the game? For me, I cannot tell you how many “just inject it bro” turned out to be harmful once the data came in 5-10 years later.
The human body is complex interactions, and when you artificially throw it out of sync it can have unforeseen harmful consequences.
He knows this and bases his decisions on “ok this has been proven to both work and safe via quality clinical trials”.
@@MixtrisUFOimages When you're talking about injecting something yourself which you bought from unregulated compounding pharmacies, that alone is enough to be discouraged by an actual responsible practicing doctor.
Furthermore, with something specifically purported to boost angiogenisis and vasculogenisis it would be wise to extensively research potential cancer causing or tumor accelerating side effects.
That being said I think you should personally take it and tell us all how it goes!
those guns!
I love the idea of microvitamin but 50mg of Niacin is not microdosing and is not in proportion to the other B's. I see less than 50mg of Niacin in the megadosing multis on the market. Im after a multi with 1 to 2mg equivalent of each B and true microdoses of nutrients to support diet and minimise overusing transport proteins and enzymes with synthetic vits. Hard to find.
I didnt receive the benefits of taking NMN tabs to a noticeable degree. But taking NMN+ by subcutaneous injection is a game changer for me. Taking oral NMN causes much of it is destroyed by stomach acids. The effects by injection are very noticeable. But listening to podcast I'll be adding TMG. The 1000 mg pills I'll receive will be cut in half based upon the this research presented here.
I had no idea that you could take NMN by injection. Is it subcutaneous or intramuscular injection? I take peptides by subcutraneous injection. My favorite peptide is BPC 157. It really helps in rapidly healing muscle tears, ligament and tendon tears, joint problems. It healed my rotator cuff tear that has lasted for years in just 3 days. It healed my hurting knee joints in just days. Check it out on TH-cam: Peptide Therapy. But focus on BPC 157. Most body builders and athletes in the "know" take BPC 157 with no side effects except it can make you feel hungry and a little fatigued . BPC 157 when taken orally greatly improve irritable bowel syndrome because this is where this peptide is naturally found in the lining of the stomach.
This is why we use sublingual NMN
@@cajampa wow have where do you get this? Or, do you just keep the powder in your mouth for NMN?
How much TMG were them soccer kids taking? The crossfit groups were taking 2.5g and 5g.
TMG makes me feel sick and gives me breathing issues at night.
weird have you ever taken gaba? i thought i was gonna die'
How about beet root powder which contains other good compounds besides TMG
how about beet root
Do glycine and TMG counteract each other?
One is a methyl donor and other prevents excess methylation?
Nice guns, Doc!
If NMN has no health benefits, what do you attribute the FDA trying to reclassify it as a drug and banning its sale in the USA?
I think Brad Stanfield has a bone to pick with a company he used to get a kick back on by using a code to buy NMN. The company is called Do Not Age and they are a leading company that sells NMN. If you used Brad's code, then you get a 10 percent discount. But, now that Brad has his own vitamin company up and running he might change his mind like he does on many things and maybe in the future he might start selling NMN himself. Who knows?
Drug companies want to make it a patent medicine. Its some corrupt bullshit
If one is already taking glycine, would TMG replace it or augment it? thanks.
Good question.
If you're taking glycine then you're probably taking more than the glycine content in 500 mg of TMG. The main difference between the two is that TMG provides for more methylation, though glycine is also involved in methylation. It would be interesting to see a study comparing the two, as glycine is much cheaper.
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@@antonystringfellow5152 I take Glycine with my NAC, for the GlyNAC benefits, and TMG, I take before gym, only been taking TMG for about a month now but seems to be helping, seems my gains are doing better than before, I doubt it's placebo, as i am one that is usually pessimistic and usually do not feel/see improvements in most things I take, just going by the numbers on my gym app.
@@PianoPatterns123 No what? It was an either-or question.
Glycine, on its own, is not a methyl donor.
What kind of magnesium is in your multivitamin? And what time of day should it be taken?
It says Magnesium Taurinate 126mg on the pack.
Glycine, TMG and magnesium glycinate/bisglycinate makes quite a lot of people feel anxious and/or depressed. It is NOT a supplement that is good for everybody. It made me feel like CRAP. I can take DMG with no problems.
I take it for methylation.
It made me irritable. Over methylation? (500 mg)
Probably your diet of bad foods
Hi, thanks for the update. I wanted to buy your supplement but when I saw serving size 4 capsules a day I decided not to. Is there a reason why you can't make it a 1 capsule serving size?
Can you add Serbia for the delivery of your products. I would be able to spread it's usage since my family has medical practice.
your vitamins cant be shipped to japan it seems... too bad for me
What is the recommended dose? I already eat several cups of spinach daily
So popeye the sailor man was right?
If you want to be filled with tons of oxalates, eat spinich hahah
Why biotin?
If so do these testosterone "boosters" work the same way for women?
Good question.
0:34 Steroids. There's obviously nuance to that statement
I am interested in trying out this formulation but would like to know what the absorption rate is for this supplement. Some supplements have a very low absorption as they transit the digestive tract and from experience I know that the digestive tract will absorb liquids more easily and completely than solids which sometimes can pass through with little absorption.
I already take glycine, do I need to take trimethylglicine too?
I take both: I take the glycine for sleep and I also use TMG (3 grams) to lower my homocysteine.
If you are physically active and your nutrition is sub-optimal (most regular viewers here) then TMG at 1-3 grams per day should be useful. Some people don't need the methyl groups in TMG, just like many don't need the methylation in methyl folate or methyl B-12. There are tests for methylation for folate and B-12, so there may also be a similar test to determine whether TMG will be useful, but I haven't seen it yet.
Slightly off topic maybe but anyone experienced all but miraculous improvements in neuropathy pain since taking Microvitamin? My husband has:-) Just wondering if it’s a coincidence.
Where does glycine supplementation factor in?
Do you need to supplement with TMG if you drink beetroot powder pre-workout? Or does the beetroot powder have enough TMG to facilitate strength?
Can you benefit from TMG only when you exercise? for example if you do strenuous exercise more occasionally? Or should it be taken daily?
I think I am getting gassy from your Microvitamin. Any suggestion how not to?
Does DMG have the same benefits?
Both TMG and Niacin are pennies.
So the product is no good ?
What does it mean
😂it means they are just cents😮
Is there enough betaine in beets, spinach, or wheat germ to have a an significant impact or are the concentrations too low and therefore supplements are required?
no
What's the difference between TMG and Betaine HCl? My local supplement store has the HCl version, but I'm not sure that's the same thing
HCl is for dígestion, TMG is fo sport, muscle. But search for yourself too, i dont want to say wrong things.
HCl makes the substance more acidic. It can raise stomach pH, which can be beneficial for absorption of minerals (e.g. calcium supplements) and nutrition. However you get less (weight percentage-wise) Betaine.
The Dr says in the video that they are rhe same thing.
@@thomasmuller1850 but any positive effects dr Brad is talking about can still, theoretically, be achieved with the HCl version? Some sources say they’re completely different, some say they’re pretty much the same thing
@@peterRobinson10101 the doctor says that Betaine and TMG are the same thing. But more specifically, I know that TMG is betaine anhydrous. Betaine HCl is different. But I’m bot sure if the positive effects can be the same or not
Very intresting how the most effective supplements are the ones that are actually found in food. Namely TMG and creatine.
I don't think the most effective supplement is found in food.
Caution if you are sensitive to overmethylation, you may notice irritability, depression and anger
What does it mean if I feel better when taking high estrogen foods like edamame?
That stuff gives me an improved mood but then I feel totally satisfied doing absolutely nothing
It appears to me that you took this information from the I Am Longevity channel and reworded it!!!!!
He made a video on TMG long before you with the exact information and much more- What's going on here?????
Is this what you do?????
Interesting? That is the first thought that came to my mind. I also watch the I am Longevity channel. And he said the exact same thing as that channel did on his video on TMG
Do you have a link to prove what you are saying?
@@elitehealthyliving2615 i cannot post a link, but will give you the title -----The Science Behind TMG: Methylation, Hormones, and Performance Gains.
I am not crazy. This video here definitely took the information from I am longevity channel.
Good Video! But what are the Difference between betain tmg and betain hcl? Is this also the same?
totally different, the other one is for stomach acid
@@WaterspoutsOfTheDeep Thanks for this info! I have been wondering…
For sports performance, is TMG even better than creatine?
Combine them.
5g CMH plus 2g TMG
No, creatine is the best performing supplement that we are currently aware of
What can be done to decrease the chances of body odor from using TMG?
A shower ?
Selam ürün benim ülkemde yok burda bütün ürünler varken türkiye olurmu sağlıcak.
Doesn’t TNG increase TMAO which can have deleterious effects ?
Then eat glycine. duh lol
@@charlesfuchs Really? Questioning TMG’s role in producing TMAO. I guess you’re smarter than everyone else because you know about glycine.
It may not be for everyone though, I took it for a while and to me it gave me mild neutropenia (even moderate at some point). My neutrophils were always a bit on the low side but still within normal limits, this makes them tip the scale. If you search about betaine and immune system it's known to reduce neutrophil populations (which can be a good thing in some cases, lower neutrophil to lymphocyte ratio) but not in mine, had a couple of viral infections during that time and the symptoms had never been so bad. Took me a while to figure out it was the TMG, i even thought I could have leukaemia etc. fortunately when i stopped taking it, neutrophils went up and my immune cell proportions became more normal.
Oh wow. I got a nasty infection when I took it! Became cellulitis on my face. Good to know
Everyone has different genetic markers for foods and supplements. You may not be genetically disposed to take TMG.
Here we go again with another vitamin Brad for super performance. Now will have kids chasing some performance drug.
Maybe just eat more beets?
Yeah 1 kg/day for the 2,5 g TMG in it.
@@marcell199311 2.5 gram? So 2500 grams? So 200 g of beets for the 500mg that this supplement pusher recommends? That does not sound like an insane number. Besides I could also eat some spinach and shrimp and such.
Sure, if you wants to eat LBS of beets a day. smh smh
100g of wheat germ contains 1,241mg of TMG - so why supplement when you can get it from your diet?
100g cooked or dry? How does the bioavailability compare to a tmg tablet?
Because eating wheat these days will kill you lol
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Why don't people just eat beetroot. what's wrong with real food! naive.
Beets are high in carbs; that's why some people don't eat it.
It worries me that so many TH-camrs are focusing so exclusively on testosterone and muscle. It suggests to me a bias (hypermasculinity). Sure, sarcopenia is an aging problem but there are a hundred other aging problems that get short shrift because they don’t appeal to the big strong male image. All the TH-camrs seem to be following each other on this and it’s probably because muscle/testosterone videos get lots of clicks.
Both high testosterone and bodybuilding are linked in a number of studies to lower lifespan. Of course low testosterone and muscle weakness is too, but there may be a sweet spot. Why focus on these particular markers when there are others that don’t have such a U shaped curve?
You seem to think that muscle mass and hormone levels, like testosterone, only matter for bodybuilding or those with a U-shaped body. In reality, their importance goes far beyond that.
Is there cheese with the wine?
Muscles and testosterone are important for avoiding frailty. Studies with 17a estradiol have also shown that high testosterone is actually a good thing for longevity.
@@juliahello6673 High testosterone and normal testosterone is not the same. You want your testosterone to be simply in the normal range or "normally high". Plus testosterone level on it's own doesn't mean anything, it has to be in balance with other hormons too. Bodybuilding is linked to lower lifespan because they include people in the studies, who do steroids. If you are natural, you don't have to worry about lower lifespan from 2-3 moderate gym sessions per week.