Sorry the audio-video desync is so bad. It was worse before a ton of editing, which is why this wasn't posted last night. Anyways, timestamps (ish)! 0:00 Intro And Yikes! 6:00 Pacers Offensive Struggles 12:00 Tyrese Haliburton's Performance 18:00 Injuries and Lineup Challenges 24:00 Future Concerns and Team Needs
We can't talk ourselves out of the truth we see when watching Tyrese play. He is not who we say he can be. He is what he is. A good IQ point guard that is not always locked in on his offensive game. The three players I see as our primary players are Pascal, Benn Mathurin and Jarace Walker. These guys, are only ceiling lifters. Unless Tyrese somehow, either gets healthy, or his mentality to be the guy and he stops being hesitant... Our offensive identity is built around his pace. Well, he is not being that guy. So that is a big issue. I'm not happy sharing these thoughts...lol. I want Tyrese to excel. But I don't see him suddenly correcting all that is wrong with his game. It sucks.
I'm frustrated with what is going on with Tyrese. My take was made out of frustration. If haliburton is dealing with a back thing, it would be nice to hear them say that. But I hold my ground on Mathurin and Walker. Hali urton is an elite passer and high IQ. But he is injury prone man. I hope he proves me wrong and performs like a $ 45,000,000 player. We will see
Is there something going on with teammates not getting the ball to Pascal??? This game was horrible. Pascal was hot hot, and when he came back in they didn't get the ball to him. They were up by double digits when he left the game, and when he returned, the lead had dwindled to almost nothing. To make things worse, they don't get to their hottest player. Disgusting!!! There was NO reason for them to lose this game. Do other players not see Siakam's value??? I am really starting to question what is TRULY going on here??!!!
Hornets are on their way to being the team we should have been..🙇 Mathurin is the only reason I watch IND. I've been enjoying watching OKC, CAVS and Knicks lately.
I see now that my native New Yorker, my high flying homey of The CAGE basketball playground has been allocated to ride the pine. For the first time of being a fan of Obi, I realize why this has happened. He is just happy to be in the NBA. He does not have any drive to be great! As a Knick fan, he reminds of Hubert Davis, when he wore the Knicks uniform. Same persona: Just happy to be in the NBA. This is a disappointment for me, because I felt he would soar high with your point Gawd! But, as I saw him stand in the corner in a thibbadow offensive scheme with your team, as I saw him pass up shots and be passive, as I saw not aggressively rebounding the pill on either end of the floor last year, I was hoping he would test the free agency market or ask for a release. He didn't. Its over for Obi, he will never become the star that he was on the playgrounds of New York, or when he was in college. Its a sad day for me. I cheered him through his time under the coach voted the worst by NBA players 3 years in a row. But, now I have nothing to say in his defense. Stay happy, Obi
I can say why, because they gutted this team and Hali is completely MIA. I once thought he was better than LaMelo. Was the first half of last year. LaMelo now has taken his game to another level. He's a wayyy better shooter. He has a fast release and can shoot without being set. Dude is amazing.. and they have Miller, Bridges, Richards and Mann.. Solid core right there... They continue to build around those guy's and they will be a great team soon.
I was in an internet chat during this game and I apologized to all the Charlotte fans for this disgusting performance, which was disrespectful to the sport of basketball and everyone who has ever laced up a pair of sneaks. I was 100% on team roll-it-back this off-season. I'm not one for reactionary overhauls every time there's a bad stretch, but wow... Now, I don't even know. Do we need new coaching? Trade Tyrese?
DIdn't have Haliburton photos from the game available to me at the time I downloaded one for the thumbnail of the ones I am allowed to use. Some came in later.
I have doubts that his back is the issue. Maybe wearing the brace and pads is just for optics. An excuse for the fans and commentary to latch onto in order to disregard the possible truth; that he may just not be the player we think he is.
Without HIMaburton from last year that was insane we are a middle of the pack team. Good but not good enough. If he hurt in any fashion just please sit him for a couple games but if he’s good then he needs to get out of his own head.
I can’t keep taking these losses I know it’s only 9 games but we just look lost every other night. We need Tyrese to play well, a backup center, and a movement shooter who Tyrese can play off of.
Its because they cant consistently rebound and defend. And it will continue to happen until they fix it. Its time for them to make some tough decisions and shake up the team. If they dont, they are just a play in team.
Turnovers were horrible, little to no rebounding and Tyrese and Myles looked lost. They will lose far worse against the Knicks today unless coach can fix their problems.
miller is gonna be all nba very soon... miller is a three level scorer and finisher the league has yet to fully realize -- i bet miller gets 50 this year
He didn't even need to. When your supermax player can't even put down open dunks and layups, you start wondering why they even bothered showing up to the arena.
bro gave excuses about starter being injured when both of hornets starting center and secon C and starter miles bridges is out too. if anything hornets had starters out
@@WazedNarratives I never talked about the discrepency in injury, just how the pacers injuries impact their play. That is not, as you claimed, an excuse. they should have played much better with who they had available regardless of charlotte's health sitaution.
Tony knows the sport, but he displays ownership bias in his commentary. The Pacers are not more talented than the Hornets, but it’s up to the Hornets to stand on business and prove me right. Tony mentioned, the Hornets own the Pacers over the last 4-5 games so they deserve more respect. I realize the Hornets have been terrible for a decade, but I do know what talent looks like; Ball’s health & Millers continued ascent will change perceptions this season.
Monstars got Tyrese talents and Myles literally will let a ref get a rebound before he will good job everyone else 🤦🏽♂️ this shhh is cringeworthy watching and some ppl wasting money taking flights hotels n shhh to see this?? nah bruh i need some reimbursement 😂
Sorry the audio-video desync is so bad. It was worse before a ton of editing, which is why this wasn't posted last night. Anyways, timestamps (ish)!
0:00 Intro And Yikes!
6:00 Pacers Offensive Struggles
12:00 Tyrese Haliburton's Performance
18:00 Injuries and Lineup Challenges
24:00 Future Concerns and Team Needs
Hornets played without a starter Centre, without a backup centre and the starting Forward.
Correct
And 3 out of the the starting five scored 2 points 😂
hali aint it
😂😂😂😂😂
We can't talk ourselves out of the truth we see when watching Tyrese play. He is not who we say he can be. He is what he is. A good IQ point guard that is not always locked in on his offensive game. The three players I see as our primary players are Pascal, Benn Mathurin and Jarace Walker. These guys, are only ceiling lifters. Unless Tyrese somehow, either gets healthy, or his mentality to be the guy and he stops being hesitant... Our offensive identity is built around his pace. Well, he is not being that guy. So that is a big issue. I'm not happy sharing these thoughts...lol. I want Tyrese to excel. But I don't see him suddenly correcting all that is wrong with his game. It sucks.
I think he’s not who they say he is because he’s clearly been hurt. His back seems to effect his game and then mentality.
Is there a reason Tyrese did NOT play a single minute at the the Olympics! YES, not everyone sees his value.
Putting Mathurin and Walker above Haliburton is ridiculous.
I'm frustrated with what is going on with Tyrese. My take was made out of frustration. If haliburton is dealing with a back thing, it would be nice to hear them say that. But I hold my ground on Mathurin and Walker. Hali urton is an elite passer and high IQ. But he is injury prone man. I hope he proves me wrong and performs like a $ 45,000,000 player. We will see
Is there something going on with teammates not getting the ball to Pascal??? This game was horrible. Pascal was hot hot, and when he came back in they didn't get the ball to him. They were up by double digits when he left the game, and when he returned, the lead had dwindled to almost nothing. To make things worse, they don't get to their hottest player. Disgusting!!! There was NO reason for them to lose this game. Do other players not see Siakam's value??? I am really starting to question what is TRULY going on here??!!!
Ruckus smug faced Carlisle did it again😮
It was weird in the second half
Evidently TJ is the heart and soul of this team
Totally agree...he is the Anti Haliburton!!!
Hornets are on their way to being the team we should have been..🙇 Mathurin is the only reason I watch IND. I've been enjoying watching OKC, CAVS and Knicks lately.
If Hali’s back is the reason for his mostly lack luster shooting/shot choice, let him sit a few games. Please.
I see now that my native New Yorker, my high flying homey of The CAGE basketball playground has been allocated to ride the pine. For the first time of being a fan of Obi, I realize why this has happened. He is just happy to be in the NBA. He does not have any drive to be great! As a Knick fan, he reminds of Hubert Davis, when he wore the Knicks uniform. Same persona: Just happy to be in the NBA. This is a disappointment for me, because I felt he would soar high with your point Gawd! But, as I saw him stand in the corner in a thibbadow offensive scheme with your team, as I saw him pass up shots and be passive, as I saw not aggressively rebounding the pill on either end of the floor last year, I was hoping he would test the free agency market or ask for a release. He didn't. Its over for Obi, he will never become the star that he was on the playgrounds of New York, or when he was in college. Its a sad day for me. I cheered him through his time under the coach voted the worst by NBA players 3 years in a row. But, now I have nothing to say in his defense. Stay happy, Obi
I can say why, because they gutted this team and Hali is completely MIA. I once thought he was better than LaMelo. Was the first half of last year. LaMelo now has taken his game to another level. He's a wayyy better shooter. He has a fast release and can shoot without being set. Dude is amazing.. and they have Miller, Bridges, Richards and Mann.. Solid core right there... They continue to build around those guy's and they will be a great team soon.
He was 10 of 29 last night. Cmon now.
@@79glane928 Averaging 47% FG and 40% from 3 before the game.. Everyone has an off night but everyone doesn’t have an off night and still get 31..
@@79glane928and still outplayed Hali, you stat nerd 😂😂😂
Yall might just be sleeping on the hornets
83 is not winning any game in today's nba. Team is a mess.
I was in an internet chat during this game and I apologized to all the Charlotte fans for this disgusting performance, which was disrespectful to the sport of basketball and everyone who has ever laced up a pair of sneaks.
I was 100% on team roll-it-back this off-season. I'm not one for reactionary overhauls every time there's a bad stretch, but wow... Now, I don't even know. Do we need new coaching? Trade Tyrese?
Yeah ima hornets fan and I was very disappointed how the pacers played ....
@@darkmanxxx8810 I'm sorry. You deserved better.
When the caption is a poor outing the thumbnail should have been Hali. Ben was again one of the only bright spots on the team
DIdn't have Haliburton photos from the game available to me at the time I downloaded one for the thumbnail of the ones I am allowed to use. Some came in later.
He been balling this year
How many years have I been saying we HAVE to move on from Turner if we EVER want a championship?
I have doubts that his back is the issue. Maybe wearing the brace and pads is just for optics. An excuse for the fans and commentary to latch onto in order to disregard the possible truth; that he may just not be the player we think he is.
Without HIMaburton from last year that was insane we are a middle of the pack team. Good but not good enough. If he hurt in any fashion just please sit him for a couple games but if he’s good then he needs to get out of his own head.
None of this is going to change until we cut the cancer out... Rick and Myles gotta go.
I can’t keep taking these losses I know it’s only 9 games but we just look lost every other night. We need Tyrese to play well, a backup center, and a movement shooter who Tyrese can play off of.
Its because they cant consistently rebound and defend. And it will continue to happen until they fix it. Its time for them to make some tough decisions and shake up the team. If they dont, they are just a play in team.
Turnovers were horrible, little to no rebounding and Tyrese and Myles looked lost. They will lose far worse against the Knicks today unless coach can fix their problems.
What this really brought focus to is that Nesmith, Nembhard, and Jackson are the core leaders the team needs to build upon.
What? Not Mathurin?
miller is gonna be all nba very soon... miller is a three level scorer and finisher the league has yet to fully realize -- i bet miller gets 50 this year
Mathurin and Siakam the roonian came to ▶️ 😊
The rebounding was the problem
Lamelo Ball cooked yall too 🤣
He didn't even need to. When your supermax player can't even put down open dunks and layups, you start wondering why they even bothered showing up to the arena.
OBI does not seem like the same player. either...Tyrese is beyond FRUSTRATING to watch..!!!!
bro gave excuses about starter being injured when both of hornets starting center and secon C and starter miles bridges is out too. if anything hornets had starters out
I literally said the opposite and said injuries weren't why they lost
@ u emphasized on the point of how discrepancy in injury affected their offense
@@WazedNarratives I never talked about the discrepency in injury, just how the pacers injuries impact their play. That is not, as you claimed, an excuse. they should have played much better with who they had available regardless of charlotte's health sitaution.
@@LockedOnPacers u mentioned me smith and beard being out like 3 times
When we see Hali and Myles are playing ass they should maybe play through benn and pascal
I wouldn't be too disheartened the Hornets with a healthy lamelo are a different team
LaMelo had 17 in the 4th. Ty disappeared.
The Pacers need to Sign a backup Big Man soon.
Wouldn't have helped. Hornets starting and backup Centre were out
Tony knows the sport, but he displays ownership bias in his commentary. The Pacers are not more talented than the Hornets, but it’s up to the Hornets to stand on business and prove me right. Tony mentioned, the Hornets own the Pacers over the last 4-5 games so they deserve more respect. I realize the Hornets have been terrible for a decade, but I do know what talent looks like; Ball’s health & Millers continued ascent will change perceptions this season.
Let's face it, Hali is who he is. And we're stick paying $50 million per year.
i wish locked on hornets had a guy who wanted to talk ball only yet we have cliche dug and whiney walker doing their best skip bayliss reporting
The EAST stinks outside of 3 teams!!!..It's time to step up!
Monstars got Tyrese talents and Myles literally will let a ref get a rebound before he will good job everyone else 🤦🏽♂️ this shhh is cringeworthy watching and some ppl wasting money taking flights hotels n shhh to see this?? nah bruh i need some reimbursement 😂
Darren Collision called Kyle's soft years ago. Rick should 've told Kyle's to get in the gym, get stronger and stop being a poor version of K D
Sorry, Myles, you know who I'm talking about
🙈🙈😢😢
trade hali and pascal and a 1st for GA and marjon imo -- run it w GA and mathurin as the focus
pacers are overratedddddd