@JasonMyles-w3y Did you honestly think this was some great comeback? There’s nothing in this video this is incorrect. The PGMOL is corrupt, the evidence is there. If you can refute the evidence, I’ll believe otherwise.
Michael Oliver, Howard Webb & PGMOL need to be charged with failing to provide unbiased or competent Referees. The FA have brought game into disrepute, they make the Premier league a JOKE! Thank you Henry for a calm unbiased video. (from a Arsenal Fan).
@fifty-five6929 not at all. He is always unbiased with his videos hence why supporters our other clubs come here. They come for his opinions and they rate him. Even if it's a topic I don't agree with I still value the opinion.
Why did PGMOL chose to release this information after Michael Oliver’s mistake at WV? They released this information now because this time, they know they effed up. They thought by releasing the info about death threats and online abuse (which MO is not on any social media?!), they would change the narrative of mainstream media’s discussion… From corrupt / biased referees to ”unacceptable behaviour by Arsenal FC for not controlling their fans online?! This PGMOL has to go, or football will lose its fans. I’m close to abandoning the PL football and just watch England in WC
And here the lil bellend is again, so tell us all big boy who do you support cos unless it's Liverpool then right now you need to ssshh, cos all others are below us. Prob city 😂😂😂
The PGMOL took five days to decide to charge Arsenal for surrounding the referee, conveniently a day after Skelly's red card was overturned. Why not charge them on the Monday, two days after the game? Why wait? Yeah, nothing at all dodgy going on or any bias against Arsenal they want us to believe. No mention of Darren England being stood down despite making two huge blunders in the Wolves game. Do officials get stood down any more?? 😏
The FA are making a rod for their own back. Should there be crowding of the ref at the forthcoming weekend of fixtures, then a similar punishment must be applied.
Just another clear as day example that Arsenal are treated differently than other clubs, both on and off the pitch, and they don't even care how blatant and and obvious their bias and agenda is.
It’s retaliation, and retaliation is a form of corruption. If the standards of officiating are going to improve, then the organization needs to be overhauled to incentivize accountability and punish corruption
We have all seen players surrounding the ref when a red card is "correctly" shown by the ref (and sometimes even for a 2nd yellow) and absolutely no reaction by the FA for those incidents!! Yet, when the Arsenal players surround the ref for an "absolutely bizarre" red card, which nobody in the world of football can understand, they get punished!!! As an Arsenal fan, I have praised your unbiassed views in the past Henry and I have to reiterate that again here. Thank You so much Henry! I wish, all pundits/commentators were like you.
It also seems to be the fact that every plastic Arsenal fan in the whole world has concluded that Oliver was at fault for why Bergkamp missed that penalty in 1999 against Man Utd in the FA Cup semi final and why Won Nothing Saka missed the most important one he'll ever take in his life for England. His agenda against Arsenal is unreal mate!
@@johanhalvarsson2148 So the best reply you can muster is to questionin an 8 year olds grammar who unlike yourself can still afford an Araenal season ticket in the current state of the world economy? No wonder your parents abandoned you...
Arsenal fans we need to sign a petition to the Premier League and English Gov. For all the decisions and the incosistence decisions against us unlike other teams.
As it's the FA Cup 4th round next week and as Arsenal aren't playing (unlike other teams like Wycombe Wanderers and Preston NE), why don't you hold a mass fan cry at the Emirates all next weekend and all proceeds to go to help you buy a proper striker?
@@JasonMyles-w3ywith your actions on here it sounds like you got plenty to cry about lad 😂, you wouldn't be wasting so much time on here replying to every1's comments and before you spit out more verbal diarrhoea I'm just here calling out your pathetic bs 😊
It’s pretty impressive from you Henry to point out all these cause what other rival fans do say is that Arsenal are crying babies, mark my words with all this controversies Arsenal can never win the league trust me cause they absolutely have an agenda on Arsenal football club
Likewise, I played for nearly 30 years, then never missed attending an England home game for years. Now, I can’t remember the last time I watched a game of rugby. It’s become unwatchable because of a few reasons but the main one being the fact they allowed the TMOs to interfere too much, too many stoppages.
Duck it Henry! These are corrupt as hell and it is bloody clear to see. How many times have I seen Man City players surround the referees to get a change on decisions.
@@JasonMyles-w3yhow are those transactions contributing to the issues of corruption, injustices, and bad refereeing being discussed herein??? Unless you're part of the PGMOL, please🙏, stop being emotional, irrational, and tribalistic against Arsenal FC and fight for these injustices.
@paulsonerot3587 How much do you pay for your season ticket to then wait for your manager to sign all these "world class" players that he promised qualifying for the CL attracts? Roughly....
It is no surprise that the FA say nothing about the red card that caused everyone to appeal to the referee that his decision was erroneous (and the red card was overturned UNANIMOUSLY). It is disgusting that the decisions of the referees are so inconsistent, so often weighted against Arsenal, and the FA only sanctions Arsenal for behaviors they let go from others.
😅😅😅😅 Tottenham fans only lives to see arsenal get beaten live in shadow of arsenal is like this i can feel mid table team never one Premier league and didn't win anything in last 30 year's evan friendly games trophy 😉 🙄 😂 Crying like this 😭 😢 😪 is what u live for i can feel it
Is there an agenda against Arsenal ?? Mate go back to the 2005 FA cup final and listen very carefully to the commentary team , Compare how they describe man uniteds tackles against arsenal's tackles and then watch every Arsenal domestic game after that and you'll see very clearly there is an agenda against Arsenal when you compare the comments made , Arsenal player gets taken out " excellent tackle brilliant football " Arsenal player touches an opposition player " he should be banned for life disgraceful , " or not far off , Even the commentary teams are inconsistent , I'm sure some Arsenal fans have been very distasteful with how they've reacted to Micheal Olivers decision , but according to Terry Fleurs those threats where from the Liverpool game 3 weeks earlier , so try to pin that on us is even more disgraceful by the media ,
There always has been but I just dont get why? I will never forget mike dean making arsene wenger stand in the stands for no reason , they hated wenger i guess for some reason, but ferguson was way harsher on refs than anyone yet refs always sided with ferguson. It must be corruption
The FA is behaving like they are not human. They never done wrong and if they got caught, they will still keep looking for something to charge for, it is insane.
I just want to say I never condone refs being abused by two things. 1. Why do they only care when refs get abused and not players and managers 2. Man City and so many other teams constantly swarm the ref and no charges I’m not one of those arsenal agenda conspiracy guys just this one is a bit weird
@@fifty-five6929 oh fair enough then I apologise. But then how come they’re so inconsistent with cheating for that? I’m not saying with arsenal or any one team in particular. It happens every game but they rarely ever seem to charge anyone with it
Arsenal should consider legal action against the FA if fined, particularly if the FA cannot provide sufficient evidence to justify their disciplinary response to the referee's actions.
I fully expect every team to be charged going forward after this but we all know they won't and then all the pundits on tv, radio and youtube will start to say the Arsenal fans are pathetic for complaining when no one else gets charged
Declaring an interest as an Arsenal fan. First, thanks to you, as a Spurs fan, for not being partisan over this. So, I don't think the ref should be surrounded, and football should follow the way rugby manages games. That said, the quality of refereeing in rugby seems much higher. However, having seen innumerable games where players surround the ref, with no charge (and Haaland's screaming in the referee's face is a particularly egregious example), it does feel that the FA decided they didn't like the independent panel's ruling on MLS and decided they'd find a way to punish Arsenal. If there was an issue, why did they wait till after the MLS red card being cleared before making their separate charge? I just wonder, if his card had stood, would the FA have made the charge against the club? I suspect not. It smacks of spitefulness and petulance, and further undermines the credibility of those in charge of our game.
Forget Rugby, this last round of CL games was brilliantly officiated. Semi-automated offside is awesome; refs let the teams play but called fouls consistently, and didn't brandish needless cards...it was so refreshing to see professional officiating.
@@denysmace3874 To confirm that you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about but you thanking a Spurs fan for making you feel gullible enough to actually believe and cares what he says because that's his job already told me what kind of Arsenal fan you are...
@JasonMyles-w3y ah, so you're the kind of person who thinks that because someone has not done a particular activity, they should not be able to comment? I'd be interested in why you came to this video. Clearly, he's never played in the PL, so don't you think his opinions are irrelevant? It must really cause you a load of pain seeing all those people on YT and Twitter making all those comments about players and managers, when they've never done the job themselves. As to the kind of Arsenal fan I am, I think I'm the kind who's not so small-minded that I'd automatically dislike or disagree with someone just because they support another football team, even Spurs. Banter is one thing, but would you really dislike someone simply because they support the local rivals?
Because Oliver was made to look silly, the FA had to do something to Arsenal so they did not get off scot free. Then ask yourself why Arsenal got off the Red Card against Lewis Skelly, when Gomes got a Yellow card, in the same game, for a worse tackle, it should have been Red. Players surrounding a Referee is nothing new so if the FA continue this charge, every time the Referee gets surrounded in ANY game the FA must charge that team, bloody silly way to run a ruling body.
The FA & The PGMOL should be held accountable for THESE "POOR" decisions. The Top Tier Referees MUST be Fired! To show EVERYONE in This Business {Football} that these Corrupted Persons WILL be IF find Guilty, To be given A Lifetime Ban & Fined HEAVILY Must be an independent investigation on The Officials Organisation
The best TH-camrs are the ones that look things for an objective point of and take their club bias out. Gone up in my books Henry. If more mainstream media had people call out things like this then football would be better
😅😅😅😅 Tottenham fans only lives to see arsenal get beaten live in shadow of arsenal is like this i can feel mid table team never one Premier league and didn't win anything in last 30 year's evan friendly games trophy 😉 🙄 😂 Crying like this 😭 😢 😪 is what u live for i can feel it
Arsenal need to find NEW Ashley Cole, Vieira, Bergkamp, Gilberto Silva, Pires, Henry, Wiltord...and GO RUTHLESS. Its the only language corrupt refs can understand.
Henry! Instant like. Like your consistency and wish Spurs a prosperous future. Not exceeding us 😂. But right up there with us. Room enough for 2! (You might differ on that second last part)
Henry, read the rule book. Do your homework. You’re a significant contributor to the number of absolute idiots that go on to regurgitate this nonsense.
Love you unbiased views on this Henry fair play not saying that because I’m a arsenal fan because you do call it out against other teams great work mate keep it up ⚽️♥️
Michael Oliver is an absolute coward, instead of taking responsibility for his refereeing decisions and just coming out and admitting he got it wrong and apologising to Skelly he decides to report the fans for abusing him online. You mean what kind of world do these people live in? This man earns a living by getting paid very well for a very well paid job by PGMOL and FA and he’s crying because fans abused him called him names.
Fa and Pgmol kissing there asses together stop the DIDDY! cheating you can go see that you set rules and only follow it has you please. How many time you see players surrounding ref every week the FA too rich to give a F
Looking what's goin on in UK today, criminals walking free...but there one crime heinous above all. To surround someone! Unforigivable! I suppose Dolby® will soon be court martialed too!
Not to mention, Timber got a yellow card in that situation when the players surrounded the ref.....so Arsenal already got a punishment for that situation....(and Timber has already been suspended for 5 yellow cards earlier in the season) so this can affect him later in the season.... This is just saltiness from the PGMOL.... And if they wanted to make people think there's an agenda vs Arsenal this is what they should do...
Last controversial decision from champ league that remember is Madrid against Juventus, it was penalty afavor rm and red card for Buffon, and they say hi is best refery😅
As an Arsenal fan i have to say they should be charged as should every team that behave that way towards an official regardless of whether or not the decision is correct or not. I also do think that the FA should penalise Michael Oliver and the VAR team for their part in this debacle but yes teams should be charged if they fail to control their players otherwise where will it end.
The action is bridled with insecurity and defensiveness. Rather than accept there's a problem with consistency and officiating standards, they're gaslighting fans, players and clubs and attacking them for being the victims of injustice.
The referees in England need more diversity !! same old referees same old faces making bad decisions …another thing referees should be interviewed after each match explaining there decisions making… maybe some sort of referees pod cast explaining there actions
They dont want arteta to win the league because of England managers are disgrace Rooney and gerard if arteta wins the league before them to them it's a disgrace
EPL the best league in the world but with the worse refs around the world. Fans, managers, and clubs are getting frustrated with the inconsistency of the refs.
First of all, all officials are crap and ALL clubs get pretty much the shite end of the stick with them. This isn't just an Arsenal thing. But until Oliver is caught on camera doing drugs and slagging Arsenal off, nothing is going to change nor is he going to be held accountable. He does need to be kept away from Arsenal AND City games.
I think city did get charged and fined £120k. They gave Haaland a pass for some twitter comments after the game. But the point stands, plenty of times city and other clubs get away with it. Arsenal always get "letter of the law".
PGMOL has got 2 books of law… 1 for Man City and Newcastle and the second book for the rest of the teams. The first says - don’t provide a red card in the spirit of the game! The second says - by “the letter of the law”…! For the record (for all the kids and keyboard warriors), I said at the time to Tottenham fans (my mates) that it wasn’t a corner that goal we scored from against you and it wasn’t a penalty against Man Utd in FA cup game. PGMOL is ruining our football!
Arsenal and Arteta aren't bad, what you mean? How are they bad? They've won FA Cups, finished second in the Premier League two seasons back-to-back, and won community sheids. How are they bad? Hot take!
The rules are clear Henry both the Trossard and rice red cards were for a second yellow so it’s on the players for their own stupidity. Where I do agree with you is that some of these directives aren’t followed through for the whole season so be consistent. If it’s a decision in August it should be the same decision made in December or March . Let’s face it the standard of officiating is piss poor for all clubs not just Arsenal. They’ve fallen foul to rules they helped bring in where it comes to “the dark arts” because of their complaining.
This is now at the level of petty for the FA and the PGMOL. Disgraceful
You'll be telling us next septic that it's the PGMOLs fault for why Arsenal have never won the CL and why Thomas Partey plays at RB 😅
Football is scripted... tv 📺 zombies 🧟♂️ 🧟♀️ haven't the intelligence to understand this statement.. . Bread 🍞 and circus 🎪... 🤤
@JasonMyles-w3y Did you honestly think this was some great comeback?
There’s nothing in this video this is incorrect. The PGMOL is corrupt, the evidence is there.
If you can refute the evidence, I’ll believe otherwise.
@@JasonMyles-w3yabsolutely.. PGMOL and refs to blame for everything.. All city money....
They are totally corrupt
Oliver's reason for not sending off kovatic he didn't want to spoil game . We are sick off this gaslighting by the FA
Michael Oliver, Howard Webb & PGMOL need to be charged with failing to provide unbiased or competent Referees. The FA have brought game into disrepute, they make the Premier league a JOKE! Thank you Henry for a calm unbiased video. (from a Arsenal Fan).
Honest analysis as always. Im an arsenal fan i cant banter spurs fans anymore as whats going on over there is criminal.
Amen to that, it’s not fun. They are hardly rivals to us right now
@holdtightadele8017 I do sometimes banter the delusional spud, but henry is a real one
"Honest analysis" aka analysis that makes my version of events true
@fifty-five6929 not at all. He is always unbiased with his videos hence why supporters our other clubs come here. They come for his opinions and they rate him. Even if it's a topic I don't agree with I still value the opinion.
@@holdtightadele8017 Which big UCL winning clubs are your rivals then?
Also, are you going to Arsenals massive FA Cup 4th round clash next weekend?
The death threats were like 3 weeks ago after a Liverpool match.
Why did PGMOL chose to release this information after Michael Oliver’s mistake at WV?
They released this information now because this time, they know they effed up.
They thought by releasing the info about death threats and online abuse (which MO is not on any social media?!), they would change the narrative of mainstream media’s discussion…
From corrupt / biased referees to ”unacceptable behaviour by Arsenal FC for not controlling their fans online?!
This PGMOL has to go, or football will lose its fans.
I’m close to abandoning the PL football and just watch England in WC
Arsene Wenger was right all along about EPL referee official
The PGMOL are sooo salty from their ”best” referee acting like a clown so they just slap this on Arsenal.
😂😂😂
Are you going to the protest march against Micheal Oliver hating Arsenal in London next weekend?
And here the lil bellend is again, so tell us all big boy who do you support cos unless it's Liverpool then right now you need to ssshh, cos all others are below us. Prob city 😂😂😂
@@JasonMyles-w3y
The PGMOL took five days to decide to charge Arsenal for surrounding the referee, conveniently a day after Skelly's red card was overturned.
Why not charge them on the Monday, two days after the game? Why wait?
Yeah, nothing at all dodgy going on or any bias against Arsenal they want us to believe.
No mention of Darren England being stood down despite making two huge blunders in the Wolves game.
Do officials get stood down any more?? 😏
Isn’t it the FA who’ve brought the charge against Arsenal, not PGMOL ?
How long did it take you to think up that piss poor excuse for why the bottlers aren't winning anything again for 5th year running?
If not for an incompetent referee, would that incident have happened? Do you expect players are to react indifferent to the injustice? SO DUMB!
The FA are making a rod for their own back. Should there be crowding of the ref at the forthcoming weekend of fixtures, then a similar punishment must be applied.
...it wont be, that's the issue
Just another clear as day example that Arsenal are treated differently than other clubs, both on and off the pitch, and they don't even care how blatant and and obvious their bias and agenda is.
Just another clear as day weak excuse for why Arsenal aren't winning anything again for the 5th year running...
@@DaveRichards-q9l Just another clear as day reason as to why your dad should have pulled out.
City get reffed differently...everyone gets howlers apart from them!
It’s retaliation, and retaliation is a form of corruption. If the standards of officiating are going to improve, then the organization needs to be overhauled to incentivize accountability and punish corruption
The threats and abuse happened 3 or 4 weeks ago, and they said nothing. They're using the threats to deflect from real issues here.
That Arsenal are winning nothing again this season?
@JasonMyles-w3y if that's what you understand from my comment.
@ You can think what you like plastic because after a quick search and unsurprisingly, i have zero fcuks to give for your weak excuses for failure
@@JasonMyles-w3y season ain't over... Cups still there
We have all seen players surrounding the ref when a red card is "correctly" shown by the ref (and sometimes even for a 2nd yellow) and absolutely no reaction by the FA for those incidents!! Yet, when the Arsenal players surround the ref for an "absolutely bizarre" red card, which nobody in the world of football can understand, they get punished!!!
As an Arsenal fan, I have praised your unbiassed views in the past Henry and I have to reiterate that again here. Thank You so much Henry! I wish, all pundits/commentators were like you.
This seems to be the fact the whole world has concluded that Oliver was at fault they wanted to get one back! That is all!
I for one blame VAR for not having him see it from a different angle or whatever. Even the sun has spots.
It also seems to be the fact that every plastic Arsenal fan in the whole world has concluded that Oliver was at fault for why Bergkamp missed that penalty in 1999 against Man Utd in the FA Cup semi final and why Won Nothing Saka missed the most important one he'll ever take in his life for England.
His agenda against Arsenal is unreal mate!
@JasonMyles-w3y the whole world does feel sorry for the state of the economy leaving you unable to afford using punctuations in your sentences.
@@johanhalvarsson2148 So the best reply you can muster is to questionin an 8 year olds grammar who unlike yourself can still afford an Araenal season ticket in the current state of the world economy?
No wonder your parents abandoned you...
Its a bias against Arsenal. Corruption is the wrong word but bias is clear. We play against 12 men most games
Arsenal fans we need to sign a petition to the Premier League and English Gov. For all the decisions and the incosistence decisions against us unlike other teams.
As it's the FA Cup 4th round next week and as Arsenal aren't playing (unlike other teams like Wycombe Wanderers and Preston NE), why don't you hold a mass fan cry at the Emirates all next weekend and all proceeds to go to help you buy a proper striker?
@@JasonMyles-w3ywith your actions on here it sounds like you got plenty to cry about lad 😂, you wouldn't be wasting so much time on here replying to every1's comments and before you spit out more verbal diarrhoea I'm just here calling out your pathetic bs 😊
Fark me
@BurtGivens Stick to Grindr...
The way English fans act as if you don't know how corrupt English FA. The book makes Mark Arsenal and wolves draw . FA is mad about the lost money.
You are totally right and righteous… thank u Henry
It’s pretty impressive from you Henry to point out all these cause what other rival fans do say is that Arsenal are crying babies, mark my words with all this controversies Arsenal can never win the league trust me cause they absolutely have an agenda on Arsenal football club
I played rugby for 40 plus years. We have var also now and they are crap too. Can't even be bothered watching games now because it's all about the ref
Likewise, I played for nearly 30 years, then never missed attending an England home game for years. Now, I can’t remember the last time I watched a game of rugby. It’s become unwatchable because of a few reasons but the main one being the fact they allowed the TMOs to interfere too much, too many stoppages.
Duck it Henry! These are corrupt as hell and it is bloody clear to see. How many times have I seen Man City players surround the referees to get a change on decisions.
City does this Everytime they don't get a call their way 😂omg can't be real yet the first time arsenal does it it's a problem lol
As Arsenal fan I agree with you
Are you going to the City game tomorrow Arsenal fan?
Until teams complain it will continue. The pgmol have too much power and the fa are happy to hide behind them.
FYI the PGMOL didn't pay £65m for Kai Havertz and neither did they pay Arsenals £72m signing Pepe £10m to leave the club...
Just saying...
@@JasonMyles-w3yhow are those transactions contributing to the issues of corruption, injustices, and bad refereeing being discussed herein??? Unless you're part of the PGMOL, please🙏, stop being emotional, irrational, and tribalistic against Arsenal FC and fight for these injustices.
@paulsonerot3587 How much do you pay for your season ticket to then wait for your manager to sign all these "world class" players that he promised qualifying for the CL attracts?
Roughly....
It is no surprise that the FA say nothing about the red card that caused everyone to appeal to the referee that his decision was erroneous (and the red card was overturned UNANIMOUSLY). It is disgusting that the decisions of the referees are so inconsistent, so often weighted against Arsenal, and the FA only sanctions Arsenal for behaviors they let go from others.
there were 3 times man city players suronded the referee the last time they played arsenal.
1 that is probably a lie and 2 that is so sad you know that
@@fifty-five6929There's no way that's a lie. City get away with everything.
There's also 3 new players that big UCL winning club Man City have already signed this transfer window.
How's Arsenal's window going in February?
@@JasonMyles-w3y Wow, really stretching there, eh?
@@therealking6202 I'm sure you've stretched many goats before septic eh?....
Stick to baseball and MLS "soccer" chump xx
Best Arsenal channel on TH-cam from a Spurs fan I think.
😅😅😅😅 Tottenham fans only lives to see arsenal get beaten live in shadow of arsenal is like this i can feel mid table team never one Premier league and didn't win anything in last 30 year's evan friendly games trophy 😉 🙄 😂
Crying like this 😭 😢 😪 is what u live for i can feel it
@@oreymediaoreymedia7410 Shush!
@@oreymediaoreymedia7410Dreaming of winning the CL or a major trophy for the first time in 20 years
That's what you live for...
As a rival I respect and appreciate your unbiased views
Ffs whatever next?
@@JasonMyles-w3y you alright bud?
@@angelpato517 You alright playing Fortnite and Gang beasts for 24 hours a day orphan boy?
@@TomCanton-c7g who hurt you bro it ain’t that deep 😂 seek help man you definitely need it
Yeh he's just manipulating you
Spiteful attempt at revenge - because they can.....
Is there an agenda against Arsenal ?? Mate go back to the 2005 FA cup final and listen very carefully to the commentary team , Compare how they describe man uniteds tackles against arsenal's tackles and then watch every Arsenal domestic game after that and you'll see very clearly there is an agenda against Arsenal when you compare the comments made , Arsenal player gets taken out " excellent tackle brilliant football " Arsenal player touches an opposition player " he should be banned for life disgraceful , " or not far off , Even the commentary teams are inconsistent , I'm sure some Arsenal fans have been very distasteful with how they've reacted to Micheal Olivers decision , but according to Terry Fleurs those threats where from the Liverpool game 3 weeks earlier , so try to pin that on us is even more disgraceful by the media ,
There always has been but I just dont get why? I will never forget mike dean making arsene wenger stand in the stands for no reason , they hated wenger i guess for some reason, but ferguson was way harsher on refs than anyone yet refs always sided with ferguson. It must be corruption
Who the heck would want to be a Ref in today's society. Just not worth it.
They bring it on themselves
The FA is behaving like they are not human. They never done wrong and if they got caught, they will still keep looking for something to charge for, it is insane.
Prison awaits guilty people
Thomas Partey has left the chat....
I just want to say I never condone refs being abused by two things.
1. Why do they only care when refs get abused and not players and managers
2. Man City and so many other teams constantly swarm the ref and no charges
I’m not one of those arsenal agenda conspiracy guys just this one is a bit weird
We literally did get charged. Do you people live in your own universe?
@@fifty-five6929Has Thomas Partey been charged again?
@@fifty-five6929 oh fair enough then I apologise. But then how come they’re so inconsistent with cheating for that? I’m not saying with arsenal or any one team in particular. It happens every game but they rarely ever seem to charge anyone with it
Arsenal should consider legal action against the FA if fined, particularly if the FA cannot provide sufficient evidence to justify their disciplinary response to the referee's actions.
I fully expect every team to be charged going forward after this but we all know they won't and then all the pundits on tv, radio and youtube will start to say the Arsenal fans are pathetic for complaining when no one else gets charged
Werent the rule that the captain is the only one allowed to talk to the ref updated this year ??
Yep, but you know how it is. The new rules get implemented for the first 5 games (generous) and then it's as if they have never existed
Arsenal's captain is Ghostagaard so he's always missing to challenge anyone...
Maan glad someone is covering this.. to this detail.. keep going bruh.. PGMOL needs to go or be reviewed!
Declaring an interest as an Arsenal fan. First, thanks to you, as a Spurs fan, for not being partisan over this.
So, I don't think the ref should be surrounded, and football should follow the way rugby manages games. That said, the quality of refereeing in rugby seems much higher.
However, having seen innumerable games where players surround the ref, with no charge (and Haaland's screaming in the referee's face is a particularly egregious example), it does feel that the FA decided they didn't like the independent panel's ruling on MLS and decided they'd find a way to punish Arsenal. If there was an issue, why did they wait till after the MLS red card being cleared before making their separate charge? I just wonder, if his card had stood, would the FA have made the charge against the club? I suspect not. It smacks of spitefulness and petulance, and further undermines the credibility of those in charge of our game.
Forget Rugby, this last round of CL games was brilliantly officiated. Semi-automated offside is awesome; refs let the teams play but called fouls consistently, and didn't brandish needless cards...it was so refreshing to see professional officiating.
Just out of interest, how many EPL games have you refereed before?
Roughly...
@@JasonMyles-w3y I can tell you exactly: none. Why do you ask?
@@denysmace3874 To confirm that you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about but you thanking a Spurs fan for making you feel gullible enough to actually believe and cares what he says because that's his job already told me what kind of Arsenal fan you are...
@JasonMyles-w3y ah, so you're the kind of person who thinks that because someone has not done a particular activity, they should not be able to comment? I'd be interested in why you came to this video. Clearly, he's never played in the PL, so don't you think his opinions are irrelevant? It must really cause you a load of pain seeing all those people on YT and Twitter making all those comments about players and managers, when they've never done the job themselves.
As to the kind of Arsenal fan I am, I think I'm the kind who's not so small-minded that I'd automatically dislike or disagree with someone just because they support another football team, even Spurs. Banter is one thing, but would you really dislike someone simply because they support the local rivals?
Can Arsenal still appeal for this charge?
Because Oliver was made to look silly, the FA had to do something to Arsenal so they did not get off scot free. Then ask yourself why Arsenal got off the Red Card against Lewis Skelly, when Gomes got a Yellow card, in the same game, for a worse tackle, it should have been Red. Players surrounding a Referee is nothing new so if the FA continue this charge, every time the Referee gets surrounded in ANY game the FA must charge that team, bloody silly way to run a ruling body.
As a utd fan, this is absolutely pathetic and disgraceful from the FA. City do this every week and no action is taken against them.
Thanks for your honest views, Henry.
Has the ref been sacked off ? Get rid of var it doesn’t work correctly. The fans will stop paying for this 💩 if it carries on the way it’s going.
The FA & The PGMOL should be held accountable for THESE "POOR" decisions.
The Top Tier Referees MUST be Fired!
To show EVERYONE in This Business {Football} that these Corrupted Persons WILL be IF find Guilty, To be given A Lifetime Ban & Fined HEAVILY
Must be an independent investigation on The Officials Organisation
If the charge was after the game, it would have looked more genuine. The fact it came after the red card was overturned makes it look corrupt.
Well done for calling it out and leaving club allegiance aside 👍
The bias is there for all to see, as well as factually by the numbers
Thanks for calling this out Henry!
arsenal needs to go with all these receipts where others were not charged for stuff like this. It's so petty
The best TH-camrs are the ones that look things for an objective point of and take their club bias out. Gone up in my books Henry. If more mainstream media had people call out things like this then football would be better
At this rate, every referee is going to need a 24/7 security detail. I’m afraid this is going completely sideways
😅😅😅😅 Tottenham fans only lives to see arsenal get beaten live in shadow of arsenal is like this i can feel mid table team never one Premier league and didn't win anything in last 30 year's evan friendly games trophy 😉 🙄 😂
Crying like this 😭 😢 😪 is what u live for i can feel it
@oreymediaoreymedia7410 Says the plastic Arsenal fan who dreams that one day he'll know where the Emirates Stadium actually is 😅
@@JasonMyles-w3yoh lil boy what a lad you are, pathetic lil boy 😊
Deflecting from their mistakes...so childish😢
lol than every one says Arsenal are complaining all the time 😂😂😂 like WTF is this someone please explain this BS
Arsenal need to find NEW Ashley Cole, Vieira, Bergkamp, Gilberto Silva, Pires, Henry, Wiltord...and GO RUTHLESS.
Its the only language corrupt refs can understand.
Henry! Instant like. Like your consistency and wish Spurs a prosperous future. Not exceeding us 😂. But right up there with us. Room enough for 2! (You might differ on that second last part)
You know the world's gone soft when online Arsenal fans wish Spurs fans a prosperous future....
Definitely no agenda against Arsenal
The P in PGMOL stands for Petty
Henry, read the rule book. Do your homework. You’re a significant contributor to the number of absolute idiots that go on to regurgitate this nonsense.
The refs in the champions league are so much better its a joke, the premier league is like panto
Love you unbiased views on this Henry fair play not saying that because I’m a arsenal fan because you do call it out against other teams great work mate keep it up ⚽️♥️
Arsenal need to build a squad that can win, even if they get 3 FAKE RED CARDS and go 3 players down!
This is a joke, if this is not corruption at his highest.
No one could do anything to Oliver and PGMOL. They are untouched nomatterwhat they did
In the same game WOLVES players surrounded the ref over Gomes second yellow but nothing lmfaoo straight up jokes 😂🤣
Hop from now on the will do the same every game
Corruption, framing of the club and the fans.
M oliver should be protected, coz he is doing the agenda against arsenal.
Michael Oliver is an absolute coward, instead of taking responsibility for his refereeing decisions and just coming out and admitting he got it wrong and apologising to Skelly he decides to report the fans for abusing him online.
You mean what kind of world do these people live in? This man earns a living by getting paid very well for a very well paid job by PGMOL and FA and he’s crying because fans abused him called him names.
Fa and Pgmol kissing there asses together stop the DIDDY! cheating you can go see that you set rules and only follow it has you please. How many time you see players surrounding ref every week the FA too rich to give a F
Looking what's goin on in UK today, criminals walking free...but there one crime heinous above all. To surround someone! Unforigivable!
I suppose Dolby® will soon be court martialed too!
Man City players always crowd the ref but never get charged for it
corruption!!!!!
Not to mention, Timber got a yellow card in that situation when the players surrounded the ref.....so Arsenal already got a punishment for that situation....(and Timber has already been suspended for 5 yellow cards earlier in the season) so this can affect him later in the season....
This is just saltiness from the PGMOL....
And if they wanted to make people think there's an agenda vs Arsenal this is what they should do...
Last controversial decision from champ league that remember is Madrid against Juventus, it was penalty afavor rm and red card for Buffon, and they say hi is best refery😅
Total agenda against Arsenal. Even team's likes wolves for instance.
As an Arsenal fan i have to say they should be charged as should every team that behave that way towards an official regardless of whether or not the decision is correct or not. I also do think that the FA should penalise Michael Oliver and the VAR team for their part in this debacle but yes teams should be charged if they fail to control their players otherwise where will it end.
Where is Michael Olivers online profile where he received the abuse?......he doesn't have one! Anyone got hos WhatsApp?
The action is bridled with insecurity and defensiveness. Rather than accept there's a problem with consistency and officiating standards, they're gaslighting fans, players and clubs and attacking them for being the victims of injustice.
The FA are a joke @arsenal should be showing this clips to the @theFA
Because there is an agenda? 😂😂
Yes.
The referees in England need more diversity !! same old referees same old faces making bad decisions …another thing referees should be interviewed after each match explaining there decisions making… maybe some sort of referees pod cast explaining there actions
Timber got booked for this so why get another charge
PL teams must put Pi's on officials maybe the bs will stop. It's better than threatening their lives though?
What’s wrong with surrounding the referee?
Only the Captain is allowed... They outlawed surrounding the ref a year or two ago.
That's pretty rich coming from you septic who only surrounds yourself with goats and fellow rednecks 😅
That's pretty rich coming from you septic who only surrounds himself with goats and fellow rednecks 😅
😂 when are fans going learn that the whole of football is corrupt 😂😂
So, if Arsenal didn't win the appeal, would the PGMOL still charge them?
They dont want arteta to win the league because of England managers are disgrace Rooney and gerard if arteta wins the league before them to them it's a disgrace
EPL the best league in the world but with the worse refs around the world. Fans, managers, and clubs are getting frustrated with the inconsistency of the refs.
Stop paying a license for bullying fraud.
First of all, all officials are crap and ALL clubs get pretty much the shite end of the stick with them. This isn't just an Arsenal thing.
But until Oliver is caught on camera doing drugs and slagging Arsenal off, nothing is going to change nor is he going to be held accountable.
He does need to be kept away from Arsenal AND City games.
I think city did get charged and fined £120k. They gave Haaland a pass for some twitter comments after the game. But the point stands, plenty of times city and other clubs get away with it. Arsenal always get "letter of the law".
why would it be , ass-e-nal is a small club in europe they never win CL , its a small club in the eyes of european fan
I wish I had so much money I wud put it show to became the best in world because yo soooo Good on analysis thx for yo host work😊
PGMOL has got 2 books of law… 1 for Man City and Newcastle and the second book for the rest of the teams.
The first says - don’t provide a red card in the spirit of the game!
The second says - by “the letter of the law”…!
For the record (for all the kids and keyboard warriors), I said at the time to Tottenham fans (my mates) that it wasn’t a corner that goal we scored from against you and it wasn’t a penalty against Man Utd in FA cup game.
PGMOL is ruining our football!
Never seen a spurs fan with this much obsession with arsenal 😂😂 I guess he knows hyping up arsenal brings the views
No team is even close to being as bad as Arsenal and Arteta.
Your don't watch our games then. Your clearly citeh
Arsenal and Arteta aren't bad, what you mean? How are they bad? They've won FA Cups, finished second in the Premier League two seasons back-to-back, and won community sheids. How are they bad? Hot take!
Ready to hear you justify that statement. Off you go...
@@LukeJohnson-tw5boYou clearly haven't seen your small club win the treble or the CL
I suggest you watch Man City 😅
@Diogo85 Because they have weak plastic fans like yourself masturbating over winning the Community Shield 😅
The rules are clear Henry both the Trossard and rice red cards were for a second yellow so it’s on the players for their own stupidity. Where I do agree with you is that some of these directives aren’t followed through for the whole season so be consistent. If it’s a decision in August it should be the same decision made in December or March . Let’s face it the standard of officiating is piss poor for all clubs not just Arsenal. They’ve fallen foul to rules they helped bring in where it comes to “the dark arts” because of their complaining.
What is😂😂 going on?