Thank you whoever posted this - as the pilot’s eldest son, I have been searching for this display for years. Dad would love to know it exists! Dad , John (“Johnny”) Allam, used to tell us of this display. We have it in photographic images but not in video - thank you!
What a legend your Dad was. I crewed helicopters for quite a few years, and there are pilots, and there are pilots. Your Dad was a pioneer pushing these huge airframes into these spaces. Hat doffed. And what a wonderful bit of footage for your family to find.
Yeah baby ! Fly it like a fighter. Never thought I'd see a Victor do these kind of things. Props to the pilot and the designer for making this possible !
I was an airframe tech during the era the Superb Victor was in service. I have NEVER seen one do that before. SUPERB. I will never forget though we were mid south atlantic and a victor overflew our troop ship quite high. We all waved and thought nothing of it. A few minutes later we spotted that he had turned and come back and was only about 200 feet! We were on SS Uganda heading back to Ascension Island. He did a slow fly past waved his wings to a huge cheer then climbed back up to about FL10 OUTSTANDING. If whoever that was reads this please say Hi. It cheered us all up on the long trip back from Port Stanley! He MUST remember this!
The Lancaster would sometimes be barrel-rolled on air test after construction. I grew up in the shadow of Radlett and the Victors from Prototype onwards would come low over our house. It was a cycle ride to the HP airfield at Radlett where we could inspect the Halifax on the north boundary as well.
I watched a documentary on the Victor and the pilot talking was saying that if you sat at the end of the runway with full brakes on and took the power up to, I think, it was 85% he said the aircraft would scrub the tyres off as the aircraft would start moving on locked brakes .... He also said that if the ATC could give you a totally clear climb out that you could get her to 40,000 feet in 4 minutes ...... Totally unreal for a bomber
I think that must be the B2/K2 versions with Conway engines because the B1/K1's were fitted with Sapphire engines which produced much less power than the Conways. Certainly a lightly loaded K2 would creep with all 4 engines at 80+% and practice was to stabilise at high power, release the brakes and slam to max. I had the pleasure of being in the cockpit on a couple of demo Rejected Take-off runs at Bruntingthorpe in XM715 and the acceleration was stunning. The "Snake climb" was the speciality of the Victor to operational height in a few minutes more akin to a fighter than a bomber/tanker. A remarkable aircraft way ahead of its time in looks and performance.
@@125brat ... It was definitely the later more powerful model he was on about I just can't remember if it was your bomber or tanker version I guess either way it would need to be lightly loaded but even at that I was shocked at the thought of getting to 40,000 feet in that time in a huge aircraft like a Victor
@@PenzancePete Absolutely right Pete, no way that is a Mk.2. I believe it is XA930 in the video as that, I think, was the only Mk.1 that ever carried the underwing tanks
Strewth, I never knew a Victor could be flown like that, what a plane but what a pilot aswell, makes me proud to be British seeing this. Thanks for posting 👌🏼
They have a fully refurbished (non flying) example at Duxford, Imperial War Museum. It truly is a sight to behold. Although the Sea Vixen is equally, in my opinion, as graceful in appearance so I’m a little upset the cameraman didn’t give us a quick look at that as well 😉
It was always the Vulcan but the Victor had the looks. An incredible aircraft flown with great skill. Amazing piece of aviation history recorded forever. Thank you
Thanks so much for posting. This has really made my day - it's an astonishing video. The colours and the lively commentary make it feel as if it is happening now! A fabulous aircraft...
I had a "flight" in an ex RAF simulator at the Yorkshire Air Museum at Elvington, I got it up to about 30,000 feet before the sinulator poer went off so I was left with a glider. I think their plan was to hold bookable sessions but heard no more about the idea.
@@andrewwilson6085 it certainly was! “Vulcan 607” is the graphic description of that, of course. The navigational challenges alone were outrageously brave and skilful.
Well, if you're going to replace the Canberra and keep using the Toss-Bombing technique, the airframe has to be exceptionally capable. And later they were converted to be long range tankers for the Vulcan's.
Having stood next to a Victor at Elvington museum I can testify just how huge this aircraft is - to see it do these amazing manoeuvres (and the fantastic skill of the pilot to execute them) is stunning.
The Victor along with the Vulcan, Spitfire and TSR2 represent the very best in British aircraft design and manufacturing. It's so sad that the younger generations like myself will never get to witness one of these fantastic machines in the air like we did with Vulcan XH558.
I would add the Valiant to that. Seemingly much maligned next to the more futuristic looking Victor and Vulcan, but such a leap in heavy bomber technology so soon after the war. That it was involved in so much nuclear bomb testing, as well as combat, just adds to what was such an important foundation for early Cold War defences.
The Victor & the Vulcan is missed very much. Too bad England retired them way too soon. Amazing & capable aircraft they were. Thanks for post. Watching the Victor is always a treat.
Oh boy, they were very shaky and obsolete by the end. Fatigue gets all aircraft eventually. I do believe the MOD put pressure on the manufacturers not to repeat these manoevres at shows as they didn't want squadron pilots trying them and either crashing or over stressing the aircraft. For that reason this footage is unique and absolutely wonderful. I'm so glad the Allam family have access to it once more.
The skill to do this is beyond most peoples understanding of control manipulation. The feel, sound and even smell of an airframe that heavy is a testimony to the forge
Amazing video. It sickens me to my stomach that Britain has lost the skills and infrastructure to build these types of aircraft. We should be collectively ashamed.
@@125brat Yes, thanks to the greedy "Family" who prefer to accommodate several hundred cars which ensured the end of "Cold War Jets" and excersizing the aircraft. Thank Goodness XH558 got out in time......those left behind face a grim future.
Amazing! It was a B.1 or B.1A in bomber configuration still in service as a such (not as a tanker), and it was still painted in the ol' anti-nuclear flash scheme of the V-Bomber force. That means, it was at least back in 1962 - '63. as a top date. Was there color TV working in U.K.???
A US pilot tried that with a B-52 at FAirchild and it didn't work out too well. These aircraft were from an era when the UK led the world in aerodynamics and advance aircraft. And IMHO the Victor was the meanest looking bomber ever flown and looked the bringer of death that it was although in the Falklands 11 of them were the bringers of fuel to get the Vulcans there and back.
Never seen this video ever And I've looked hard, And to see aerodynamic handling exercise, She's an intimidating monster, For real if scrambled 100,000's would die beneath its talons Got all 3 V-bombers In 1,144 scale metal, The Vickers Valiant Only one to drop Atomic. Thanks 😊
Wonderful. There's some more footage of the same Victor display here (41 seconds in to 1'21") - th-cam.com/video/AsIZ1tfEw9w/w-d-xo.htmlsi=pBDBE3KrKDaIaxJn
Thank you whoever posted this - as the pilot’s eldest son, I have been searching for this display for years.
Dad would love to know it exists!
Dad , John (“Johnny”) Allam, used to tell us of this display.
We have it in photographic images but not in video - thank you!
Craig, do you know which year it was please? Wonderful piece of flying by your father - those were the days!
@@Hooligan-F8F - Thank you! My brother has all Dad’s flight logs: I’ll ask him to look it up …
@@craigallam343 Thanks Craig!
Fantastic video and the first time I have seen a film of that display.
See the first comment here, from your sis/brother. Not sure which !!
This AMAZING pilot was my father and I thank our sister for finding this incredible footage. I was cheering and weeping as I watched. RIP dad xx
Congrats Sir, what proud memories.
Your heart must be bursting. How lovely for your family.
Now that was a display. You should feel immensely proud because we’re not going to see that again.
What a legend your Dad was. I crewed helicopters for quite a few years, and there are pilots, and there are pilots. Your Dad was a pioneer pushing these huge airframes into these spaces. Hat doffed. And what a wonderful bit of footage for your family to find.
I'm sure glad I got to see this.
Yeah baby ! Fly it like a fighter. Never thought I'd see a Victor do these kind of things. Props to the pilot and the designer for making this possible !
I was an airframe tech during the era the Superb Victor was in service. I have NEVER seen one do that before. SUPERB. I will never forget though we were mid south atlantic and a victor overflew our troop ship quite high. We all waved and thought nothing of it. A few minutes later we spotted that he had turned and come back and was only about 200 feet! We were on SS Uganda heading back to Ascension Island. He did a slow fly past waved his wings to a huge cheer then climbed back up to about FL10 OUTSTANDING. If whoever that was reads this please say Hi. It cheered us all up on the long trip back from Port Stanley! He MUST remember this!
Test pilots are just a different breed. This was magnificent. I see comments from the family, they must be bursting with pride.
The Lancaster would sometimes be barrel-rolled on air test after construction. I grew up in the shadow of Radlett and the Victors from Prototype onwards would come low over our house. It was a cycle ride to the HP airfield at Radlett where we could inspect the Halifax on the north boundary as well.
@@johnjephcote7636 Lancaster barrel roll, I would have loved to have seen that. Thanks for sharing, much appreciated!
Wow! never realised how maneuverable the Victor was amazing footage.
Never realised how FAST the Victor was.
Stunning. One of the most beautiful aircraft ever made.
I watched a documentary on the Victor and the pilot talking was saying that if you sat at the end of the runway with full brakes on and took the power up to, I think, it was 85% he said the aircraft would scrub the tyres off as the aircraft would start moving on locked brakes .... He also said that if the ATC could give you a totally clear climb out that you could get her to 40,000 feet in 4 minutes ...... Totally unreal for a bomber
I think that must be the B2/K2 versions with Conway engines because the B1/K1's were fitted with Sapphire engines which produced much less power than the Conways. Certainly a lightly loaded K2 would creep with all 4 engines at 80+% and practice was to stabilise at high power, release the brakes and slam to max. I had the pleasure of being in the cockpit on a couple of demo Rejected Take-off runs at Bruntingthorpe in XM715 and the acceleration was stunning.
The "Snake climb" was the speciality of the Victor to operational height in a few minutes more akin to a fighter than a bomber/tanker.
A remarkable aircraft way ahead of its time in looks and performance.
@@125brat ... It was definitely the later more powerful model he was on about I just can't remember if it was your bomber or tanker version I guess either way it would need to be lightly loaded but even at that I was shocked at the thought of getting to 40,000 feet in that time in a huge aircraft like a Victor
@@petersmith7126 The K.2 could beat a Phantom on cold power to altitude - Dad was an AEO on the tankers.
Definitely a B1. The engines were the lower powered Saphires but the airframe was much more "slippery".
@@PenzancePete Absolutely right Pete, no way that is a Mk.2. I believe it is XA930 in the video as that, I think, was the only Mk.1 that ever carried the underwing tanks
My first tour in the RAF was at Marham in 1982. I'll never forget the sight and sound of the Victor! Thank you for posting this.
WOW. This footage is the talk of the town in historic aviation circles. What a sight! Thanks for making it public for us ask to see and marvel at.
The Victor has the most perfect aesthetics for a war plane... magnificent.
Strewth, I never knew a Victor could be flown like that, what a plane but what a pilot aswell, makes me proud to be British seeing this. Thanks for posting 👌🏼
Beautiful majestic and futuristic aircraft.
I quite agree, a beautiful looking aeroplane. One of my favourites, from back when Britain made some of the best aircraft in the world.
Always reminds me of something thought up for an episode of Thunderbird rather than a real life aircraft. Beautiful all the same.
They have a fully refurbished (non flying) example at Duxford, Imperial War Museum. It truly is a sight to behold. Although the Sea Vixen is equally, in my opinion, as graceful in appearance so I’m a little upset the cameraman didn’t give us a quick look at that as well 😉
When the pilot is called 'Jolly Alan' you know something special is going to happen. Absolutely marvelous
Actually he was John (Johnny) Allam, Handley Page test pilot. Died just a few years ago.
(cough) Johnny Allen.
@@PenzancePeteJohnny Allum.
Definitely spelled Allam according to my references. As in actor Roger Allam.
Makes mid air refuelling a bit problematic for the pilots following him I would imagine.
Stupendous aircraft and pilot!
FYI I have a video of the UK Concorde prototype that I'll be uploading before Christmas.
Beautiful aircraft flown by an amazing pilot.
Wow! That's a huge aircraft to be thrown about like that! Zero chance of seeing similar these days!
Again... amazing!
It was always the Vulcan but the Victor had the looks. An incredible aircraft flown with great skill. Amazing piece of aviation history recorded forever. Thank you
Great footage, it's a 1g manoeuvre and perfectly safe and looks spectacular, thanks for sharing.
Amazing......a beautiful 'plane....
As a kid in the 50's/60's I was absolutely enthralled by the yearly TV coverage of the Farnborough air shows..:)
Thanks so much for posting. This has really made my day - it's an astonishing video. The colours and the lively commentary make it feel as if it is happening now! A fabulous aircraft...
Absolutely outstanding, the manoeuvrability of such a large aircraft is incredible! I have been in a Victor cockpit, it was such a privilege 👍🏻
I had a "flight" in an ex RAF simulator at the Yorkshire Air Museum at Elvington, I got it up to about 30,000 feet before the sinulator poer went off so I was left with a glider. I think their plan was to hold bookable sessions but heard no more about the idea.
This and the vulcan were great to see in displays
Victor, the unsung hero aircraft of the Falklands war!
You mean as the tanker aircraft, for the Vulcans, during Operation Black Buck.
And what did that achieve? A couple of holes accross the runway which were filled in within a day. Total waste of time.
@@daveworthing2294 The Argentinians would not base their fast jets there knowing it was vulnerable.
@@andrewwilson6085 it certainly was! “Vulcan 607” is the graphic description of that, of course. The navigational challenges alone were outrageously brave and skilful.
@@daveworthing2294 it proved that Buenos Ayres was within range of Britain's nuclear bomber aircraft
Perfect finger tip smooth flying.. I never thought a Victor could do this!
Wow" strong powerful aircraft
And an amazingly talented pilot
I also love that old English accent of the commentator
taking orrrff
Well, if you're going to replace the Canberra and keep using the Toss-Bombing technique, the airframe has to be exceptionally capable.
And later they were converted to be long range tankers for the Vulcan's.
Great pilot 😮
Anazing piloting skill and engineering.
always love the victor , so elegant !
Thanks for uploading .
Great old footage ✅️😎
Beautifully evil looking aircraft
Some fantastic posts 👏, keep 'em coming, especially any Canberra's flown by Bea.
To handle that massive machine and keep the weight so controlled without ripping of a wing or tail…VERY WELL DONE INDEED!😁👍🏼👍🏼
Having stood next to a Victor at Elvington museum I can testify just how huge this aircraft is - to see it do these amazing manoeuvres (and the fantastic skill of the pilot to execute them) is stunning.
The Victor along with the Vulcan, Spitfire and TSR2 represent the very best in British aircraft design and manufacturing. It's so sad that the younger generations like myself will never get to witness one of these fantastic machines in the air like we did with Vulcan XH558.
I would add the Valiant to that. Seemingly much maligned next to the more futuristic looking Victor and Vulcan, but such a leap in heavy bomber technology so soon after the war.
That it was involved in so much nuclear bomb testing, as well as combat, just adds to what was such an important foundation for early Cold War defences.
That was fantastic. Very impressive ! Used to go to Farnborough in the 70s with my Daddy. I think this might have been some time before that.
Breathtaking!!! A golden age for sure.
Lost for words, just superb!
I love that era of aircraft!
WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT! I’ve seen big planes roll but not loop like that. Astonishing!
Barrel roll at the end, I agree, but there was no loop, but an Immelman after the takeoff's right turn!
I remember seeing him practising this. I grew up 1 mile from the Handley Page runway, so I was very familiar with the Victor.
I’ve been to Elvington several times but never seen a simulator, if they did have one i’d definitely have a “flight”!
Lucky you 👍🏻
Superb...wonderful to watch..and in Colour.
A wonderful aircraft that was not given the praise that it deserved.
Spectacular!
Simply WOW-wouldn’t even be contemplated now?!
Amazing footage
Wow! That is damn impressive!
The pilot was my dad. His name was Victor. Love you mum and dad. You still tits up best pilot ever❤❤❤
Subscribed and looking forward to future content.
The Victor & the Vulcan is missed very much. Too bad England retired them way too soon. Amazing & capable aircraft they were. Thanks for post. Watching the Victor is always a treat.
We didn’t retire them until the 80s when other platforms were available and the Vulcan had seen combat.
Oh boy, they were very shaky and obsolete by the end. Fatigue gets all aircraft eventually. I do believe the MOD put pressure on the manufacturers not to repeat these manoevres at shows as they didn't want squadron pilots trying them and either crashing or over stressing the aircraft.
For that reason this footage is unique and absolutely wonderful. I'm so glad the Allam family have access to it once more.
Fantastic showcase of this fine aircraft. Im not sure the first V-bomber would have done as well in the same set of manoeuvres.
Magnificent!
Well that was well done 👍
Fantastic!!! More please 🤗
The aircraft was just big enough to fit the pilots balls.
That's fantastic!!!!
The first manoeuvre was a half cuban not a loop the second manoeuvre was an aileron roll not a barrel roll, however it was still very impressive
Thank you. Apparently 90% of YT creators have no idea what a barrel roll is. Even fewer recognize a half cuban eight.
Fabulous. 🙂
Amazing footage Thanks
Brilliant
A wizzard bit of flying there!
I remember seeing one if these up close as a little kid un Anglesey and it was so impressive!
It's amazing to see cold war jets flying a display like a display not just flybys but maneuvers too.
The skill to do this is beyond most peoples understanding of control manipulation. The feel, sound and even smell of an airframe that heavy is a testimony to the forge
Marvelous Aircraft
Brilliant. Thanks.
Vulcan doing a barrel roll at Farnborough, now a Victor doing this…my word…
Absolutely awesome!!😁
Incredible ❤
My favourite out of the V bombers beautiful aircraft.
Amazing video. It sickens me to my stomach that Britain has lost the skills and infrastructure to build these types of aircraft. We should be collectively ashamed.
Wonderful
Flies it like a fighter!
'V' bombers built as bombers, flew like fighters. Did a test pilot not do something similar with a 707?
Yes. Tex Johnston in 1955, at Seattle.
@@jimroberts3009 thanks for the info.
Apparently he was told never to do it again, in case potential passengers thought this was the norm!
Tex Johnston's response when asked to account for why he did it, was "I'm selling aircraft"
Does anybody know when or where this footage was taken?
Great stuff!
I would guess Farnborough and probably mid 50’s?
SBAC Farnborough. First week in September 1958
Andy Hill pay attention. This is how you perform a manoeuvre,,, and with a much bigger aircraft.
Good pilots😊
Best looking UK jet.
Victor was the best looking and most futuristic of the V bombers.
What was the filming platform, looked as if it may have been another aircraft ?
defiantly . my favourite of the three ,one on display at Elvington air museum
@@Derekmorgan-s2j And one being worked on or now completed (not sure) at Duxford.
@@andrewdkingYes, XH648 which I believe is now complete was a K1 Tanker.
@@Derekmorgan-s2jAnd sadly XM715 "Teasin' Tina" now rotting and unloved in a corner of Bruntingthorpe airfield.
@@125brat Yes, thanks to the greedy "Family" who prefer to accommodate several hundred cars which ensured the end of "Cold War Jets" and excersizing the aircraft. Thank Goodness XH558 got out in time......those left behind face a grim future.
Amazing!
It was a B.1 or B.1A in bomber configuration still in service as a such (not as a tanker), and it was still painted in the ol' anti-nuclear flash scheme of the V-Bomber force. That means, it was at least back in 1962 - '63. as a top date. Was there color TV working in U.K.???
no but the old hand cranked film cameras were just starting to get some of the new fangled vista vision film
A US pilot tried that with a B-52 at FAirchild and it didn't work out too well.
These aircraft were from an era when the UK led the world in aerodynamics and advance aircraft. And IMHO the Victor was the meanest looking bomber ever flown and looked the bringer of death that it was although in the Falklands 11 of them were the bringers of fuel to get the Vulcans there and back.
Off scale awesome
The Victor had surprisingly good acceleration!
Wow wow wow!!!👏👏👏
Not a loop technically, nevertheless a fantastic view! Thanks!
Still love the Vulcan.
Wow 😊
Not quite a loop but damn impressive non the less!
Would someone be able to repair this footage?
Well; I've seen it all now...
Never seen this video ever
And I've looked hard,
And to see aerodynamic handling exercise,
She's an intimidating monster,
For real if scrambled
100,000's would die beneath its talons
Got all 3 V-bombers
In 1,144 scale metal,
The Vickers Valiant
Only one to drop
Atomic.
Thanks 😊
Sounds like Capt John Hutchinson doing the commentary on this remarkable display.
My dad was a navigator on the victor and said they lost a lot of men in flying accidents during the 1950s -60s.
otherwise known as an immelmann
Wonderful. There's some more footage of the same Victor display here (41 seconds in to 1'21") - th-cam.com/video/AsIZ1tfEw9w/w-d-xo.htmlsi=pBDBE3KrKDaIaxJn
Doesn't she go a fair clip , very well piloted , smooth and silky wins the day old chap , what what.