What an embarrassing situation for Wisconsin! It’s such a bad look for their program, particularly their NIL. Recruits and transfers should be wary of going to Wisconsin.
Lets put the facts out there! Yes, he signed the revenue contract! Its not official yet. Congress hasn't vote on it! However, non of that matters. He wanted to transfer and he gave his paperwork to the Wisconsin athletic department. Once that happen! Wisconsin is supposed to immediately submit his transfer papers to the NCAA and that revenue contract is void out. He also never got any money from that deal! He wanted to transfer back home to South Florida because his father severely sick no sooner after signing the revenue deal! This is not a good look for Wisconsin! Why? Since former HC Bret Bielema was the Wisconsin HC and DC, he established a little pipeline to South Florida. I'm talking about 20 years since 2004 and 2005 when, he was the DC and then became the HC! I live here in Clearwater Florida! That is going to sour the South Florida HS HC coaches of pushing kids to Wisconsin! Hell, its going to sour HS HC here in Central Florida and other parts of Florida, as well. The kid father is sick and Wisconsin was giving him grief! Bad look!
@arronfrazier7873 it's nice to have some context to this fiasco. Bill O'B signed to be 🚫hi🚫's OC, the the Boston College job opened up, and he bolted. 🚫hi🚫 ripped UCLA's HC for OC, now their in the championship. You lose good, go get some good. It's just the nature of the game now. No use whining and being vindictive.
Sir, your information is not accurate. Revenue sharing is a bill that has NOT been pass in the house. The B1G conference is the only conference that added it to recruit signings. The bill / law has yet to be approved, so it's NOT enforceable. In order for him to join Miami, he was NOT allowed to communicate his intentions to the football side and apply as a student.
I am accurate. You are misinformed on what bills are still in question and what has been passed. NIL contracts are everyone because the NLI has been discontinued in college football. You should do more research on the subject.
@TheBigTenHuddlePodcast I'm very informed, and you are speaking out your backside. The bill in question has NOT been passed and is still sitting in the house. The issue was in regards to Wisconsin attempting to hold him to his REVENUE SHARING CONTRACT. It had nothing to do with NIL. Furthermore, he never received ANY compensation from his REVENUE SHARING CONTRACT, and lastly the B1G is the ONLY conference that has players sign REVENUE SHARING CONTRACTS when they sign their financial aid documents, and the other conferences haven't followed suit because they are waiting for it to become law.
@mick exactly!! Wisconsin looks foolish..or they are just the test dummies. Wisconsin won’t bring this to court because it opens up all information..I wouldn’t be surprised if it was Wisconsin and other programs colluding to make a stand against player movement.
This is bigger than what many see. Wisconsin simply receiving payback or what some may call karma. They are reaping what they’ve been sowing for many years. Wisconsin has done many former coaches and players wrong over the years. Along with horrible hiring choices.
They don’t even allow Ron Dayne in the building. Then disregard the players who MADE that program but celebrate guys who’ve never won or accomplished much if anything.
Not the same situation at all. Coaches cannot leave contracts without the new place buying them out. That's why I said in the video that Miami needs to pay Wisconsin for the contract between Wisconsin and Lucas to be absolved.
@@MrBlackPositiveandInteresting Players can leave freely as well, depends on your definition of freely. Coaches have contracts with buyout clauses etc, so they can’t leave completely freely, there would be monetary issues with them doing whatever they wanted.
The irony of it all, way back in the 1990s when the Obannon case came the NCAA had an opportunity to get out in front of this. They chose to be defiant and arrogant, and have proceeded to lose every single court case. All of this could have been avoided with some type of revenue sharing model which will soon be enacted anyway. So typical of American people, fight to keep that free labor as long as possible.
While I didn't see enough credible reporting on it to include it in the video, I do think you are correct that the dad is not sick to the extent that Lucas made it seem.
If a player wants to leave, there is not a dang thing you can do about it. Better to let him go, then have him decide to tank a game or be a cancer in the locker room.
@@TheBigTenHuddlePodcast”Heitner said Lucas signed a memorandum of understanding with Wisconsin contingent on approval of the House vs. NCAA settlement, which has yet to receive final approval, as well as him attending classes there no later than spring 2025. He also noted Wisconsin had not paid Lucas any money so Lucas did not owe the school any reimbursement.”
My question is can he receive NIL? He left Wisconsin and enrolled at Miami just like a regular student. So no scholarship. He’s a walk on paying his own way? If this is true then his claim to be moving home for his sick family member would ring true?
He probably shouldn't but he will still. There are really no rules for NIL or tampering in college football right now. Its the main reason why we need a new governing body.
I think everything is just being being blow out of proportion. Although the contract is not legally enforceable there should be laws that follow this situation to protect the teams and players because if an athlete signs a contract for a time period that commitment should be honored. No one is totally at fault in this situation.
But a contract was signed. I don't think this situation is out there enough. Everyone want to blame Wisconsin but when this starts happening everywhere, it's going to anarchy of players getting paid and then taking the money and run. It will be complete chaos.
Why would Wisconsin hold a OOS kid hostage who doesn’t want to be there? Makes 0 sense. Nil rev deals are not play to play contracts either. Is it really about the money?? ..I don’t think so
Here’s the facts: Lucas signed He got allegedly got a higher offer than he signed at Wisconsin He lied about his reasons for leaving, he made up the illness story This system is a complete dumpster fire and I fully support Wisconsin putting their foot down. If these guys want to get paid, grow up and learn that the contracts you sign have consequences.
@@TheBigTenHuddlePodcast ok fair. But at this point everything everyone is putting out is technically hearsay, the only confirmed fact is he signed to stay at UW. Otherwise it’s mostly slime bag attorney running his mouth in the press.
It doesn't matter what the governing body is, it will have the same problem that the NCAA has...lose lawsuits. How will another governing body be difference from NCAA?
What an embarrassing situation for Wisconsin! It’s such a bad look for their program, particularly their NIL. Recruits and transfers should be wary of going to Wisconsin.
That’s because you’re hearing a BS story concocted by Lucas attorney.
Eh, people said the same thing about Florida and other schools who had NIL issues. It will blow over like it did for those schools too.
Lets put the facts out there! Yes, he signed the revenue contract! Its not official yet. Congress hasn't vote on it! However, non of that matters. He wanted to transfer and he gave his paperwork to the Wisconsin athletic department. Once that happen! Wisconsin is supposed to immediately submit his transfer papers to the NCAA and that revenue contract is void out. He also never got any money from that deal! He wanted to transfer back home to South Florida because his father severely sick no sooner after signing the revenue deal! This is not a good look for Wisconsin! Why? Since former HC Bret Bielema was the Wisconsin HC and DC, he established a little pipeline to South Florida. I'm talking about 20 years since 2004 and 2005 when, he was the DC and then became the HC! I live here in Clearwater Florida! That is going to sour the South Florida HS HC coaches of pushing kids to Wisconsin! Hell, its going to sour HS HC here in Central Florida and other parts of Florida, as well. The kid father is sick and Wisconsin was giving him grief! Bad look!
@arronfrazier7873 it's nice to have some context to this fiasco. Bill O'B signed to be 🚫hi🚫's OC, the the Boston College job opened up, and he bolted. 🚫hi🚫 ripped UCLA's HC for OC, now their in the championship. You lose good, go get some good. It's just the nature of the game now. No use whining and being vindictive.
Well spoken!!
Giving him grief? lol Go cry about it more.
Inaccurate. And Miami was tampering and they lied about the illness.
If the player took the money and left, this looks bad on him, probably illegal.
Sir, your information is not accurate. Revenue sharing is a bill that has NOT been pass in the house. The B1G conference is the only conference that added it to recruit signings. The bill / law has yet to be approved, so it's NOT enforceable.
In order for him to join Miami, he was NOT allowed to communicate his intentions to the football side and apply as a student.
I am accurate. You are misinformed on what bills are still in question and what has been passed. NIL contracts are everyone because the NLI has been discontinued in college football. You should do more research on the subject.
@TheBigTenHuddlePodcast I'm very informed, and you are speaking out your backside. The bill in question has NOT been passed and is still sitting in the house. The issue was in regards to Wisconsin attempting to hold him to his REVENUE SHARING CONTRACT. It had nothing to do with NIL. Furthermore, he never received ANY compensation from his REVENUE SHARING CONTRACT, and lastly the B1G is the ONLY conference that has players sign REVENUE SHARING CONTRACTS when they sign their financial aid documents, and the other conferences haven't followed suit because they are waiting for it to become law.
@@TheBigTenHuddlePodcast Lucas' attorney, Darren Heitner, called the agreement "conditioned on approval of the House settlement"
@mick exactly!! Wisconsin looks foolish..or they are just the test dummies. Wisconsin won’t bring this to court because it opens up all information..I wouldn’t be surprised if it was Wisconsin and other programs colluding to make a stand against player movement.
I still stand with Wisconsin.
@@hx1234 Absolutely. Some school needed to take a stand because the current “system” is trash.
Same. Lucas and Miami are 100% in the wrong.
This is bigger than what many see.
Wisconsin simply receiving payback or what some may call karma. They are reaping what they’ve been sowing for many years. Wisconsin has done many former coaches and players wrong over the years. Along with horrible hiring choices.
They don’t even allow Ron Dayne in the building. Then disregard the players who MADE that program but celebrate guys who’ve never won or accomplished much if anything.
@@Ten-v7n Ron Dayne is allowed. lol
If a coach can leave freely a player should be able to. Power to the players
Not the same situation at all. Coaches cannot leave contracts without the new place buying them out. That's why I said in the video that Miami needs to pay Wisconsin for the contract between Wisconsin and Lucas to be absolved.
@@MrBlackPositiveandInteresting Players can leave freely as well, depends on your definition of freely. Coaches have contracts with buyout clauses etc, so they can’t leave completely freely, there would be monetary issues with them doing whatever they wanted.
Imagine burning your bridges with the DB factory that’s American Heritage 😂
The irony of it all, way back in the 1990s when the Obannon case came the NCAA had an opportunity to get out in front of this. They chose to be defiant and arrogant, and have proceeded to lose every single court case. All of this could have been avoided with some type of revenue sharing model which will soon be enacted anyway. So typical of American people, fight to keep that free labor as long as possible.
1. Evan Flood called his dad and the dad didn't know he was sick or that Xavier was even transferring.
2. He did sign a document.
That's what we know.
While I didn't see enough credible reporting on it to include it in the video, I do think you are correct that the dad is not sick to the extent that Lucas made it seem.
Wisconsin literally picked up a DB from Miami in the transfer portal 😂
This is why we need collective bargaining and iron clad contracts at some point in the future....hopefully soon.
If a player wants to leave, there is not a dang thing you can do about it. Better to let him go, then have him decide to tank a game or be a cancer in the locker room.
I mean, sure. But if Wisconsin paid him to play there, they can't just let hm rob them and then leave lol
@@TheBigTenHuddlePodcast”Heitner said Lucas signed a memorandum of understanding with Wisconsin contingent on approval of the House vs. NCAA settlement, which has yet to receive final approval, as well as him attending classes there no later than spring 2025. He also noted Wisconsin had not paid Lucas any money so Lucas did not owe the school any reimbursement.”
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He didn't receive any money. 😂😂
🧀 boys got “Harvey Spectered” 😂
My question is can he receive NIL? He left Wisconsin and enrolled at Miami just like a regular student. So no scholarship. He’s a walk on paying his own way? If this is true then his claim to be moving home for his sick family member would ring true?
He probably shouldn't but he will still. There are really no rules for NIL or tampering in college football right now. Its the main reason why we need a new governing body.
I think everything is just being being blow out of proportion. Although the contract is not legally enforceable there should be laws that follow this situation to protect the teams and players because if an athlete signs a contract for a time period that commitment should be honored. No one is totally at fault in this situation.
But a contract was signed. I don't think this situation is out there enough. Everyone want to blame Wisconsin but when this starts happening everywhere, it's going to anarchy of players getting paid and then taking the money and run. It will be complete chaos.
Why would Wisconsin hold a OOS kid hostage who doesn’t want to be there? Makes 0 sense. Nil rev deals are not play to play contracts either. Is it really about the money?? ..I don’t think so
Here’s the facts:
Lucas signed
He got allegedly got a higher offer than he signed at Wisconsin
He lied about his reasons for leaving, he made up the illness story
This system is a complete dumpster fire and I fully support Wisconsin putting their foot down. If these guys want to get paid, grow up and learn that the contracts you sign have consequences.
I'm not arguing with you, but you can't say "heres the facts" followed by "allegedly" lol
@@TheBigTenHuddlePodcast ok fair. But at this point everything everyone is putting out is technically hearsay, the only confirmed fact is he signed to stay at UW. Otherwise it’s mostly slime bag attorney running his mouth in the press.
Nobody felt sorry for Miami when Alabama stole our top receiver.
when and who's going to get some regulation rules for college sports?
Not until the players and schools come together make some rules
Either conferences or an official commissioner who answers to the conferences like how Roger Goodell answers to the NFL owners.
It doesn't matter what the governing body is, it will have the same problem that the NCAA has...lose lawsuits. How will another governing body be difference from NCAA?
Enforcement and compliance with the government. They will essentially run the sport the way the NFL does with proper anti trusts and legal rulings.