SOLD: The Land Under Mobile Homes
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- Even though mobile homes are one of the most affordable options in Colorado, it’s coming at a high cost. The land from underneath some homes is getting sold, pricing people out and forcing them to leave. Rocky Mountain PBS investigates the sale of three different parks, the impacts of the people who live there and the options people have to own both the home and land underneath them.
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Our park was bought a Chinese company. If China doesn’t allow anyone else to own their land why do we do it for foreigners!!
' cause it's all about money!!
💯% agree
MONEY!!!!!!!!!!
Because the USA is knee deep in debt.
Because we are America! You might as well start a movement taking the ode on the statue of liberty sanded off!
We do it because we are civilized and educated in matters
So sorry for these folks. I lived in a mobile home park 5 years. I knew that I had to get out so I now am on my own land so I can have a garden and animals and freedom.
Same
The key to owning any home nis making sure you own the land under it.
I agree, to add what you statement. you must also educate yourself about property. so many homeowners don't even realize they don't own the land their home sits on.
That and owning it outright with low taxes and having solar, a well, and septic so that way you actually own it rather than it owning you.
doesn't work for apartment/condo
@@hksp that's why you don't buy into there scheme..
And if you can't afford that?
I live in Florida and it has gotten so bad here with Parks being sold to big corporations and it doesn't go well for the mobile homeowners. Most of the time it ends up in lawsuits being filed by mobile homeowners because the new Park owners violate long-term lease agreements that were signed years ago. One of the largest parks in my area was sold to a corporation without the mobile homeowners knowing and after the sale was done everyone got a note placed on their saying they had to move within 31 days because the parks were being torn down. There were 200+ mobile homes all privately owned and all of them had long-term lease agreements as in at least 10+ years left. This park had two pools and two rec centers "55+ park". The new owners thought they had the right to do this because they thought they wanted to build a new housing devolvement on the land they didn't have to honor the lease the people had. the park owners lost the suit after two years of fighting. during this time they closed both pools and rec centers which were part of the lease everyone was paying. this caused a new lawsuit to be filed and it's been going on for almost two years now.
Only ones winning are the lawyers
The big Corp. are buying homes, mobile home parks, etc. so that individuals will not own their own home. They want control over everybody's life. It's called socialism/communism. Look @ China, Russia fir what your life will look like in the near future.
I hope the mobile home owners whip the snot out of the corporation in court! If the corporation did not do their due diligence before buying the park they have only themselves to blame.
Homes are for people to live in. Home are not real estate investments!!!!!👊🏾👊🏾👊🏾👊🏾👊🏾👊🏾👊🏾👊🏾👊🏾👊🏾👊🏾👊🏾
If you are sick and tired of China and Canada and any other greedy real estate investment companies buying up residential homes, please make your voice heard!
Real estate investment companies are the #1 cause of homelessness. The #1 cause!!!!!!! High rents!!!!!
You hate seeing homeless but you will be one of us one day if you don’t get aggressive about putting an end to homes as cash cows instead of places for people to live in!
I will never pay another dime of rent to greedy landlords.
Rents are tripling all over the USA.
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Florida like Las Vegas I’d the lost corrupt Republican State today! Every con man goes to Florida.
Who owns Harmony? Is it a foreign interest? I think that it’s important to stop foreign land investor and equity firms from buying property. They are wrecking America.
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I'm sure a lawyer would be able to draft any legal requirements to change a foreign company into a local one. There are always loopholes.
probably China! " most favored Nation" according to many lining their pockets.
Blackrock and Blackstone are buying up all the land and all the houses.
This is part of the one world government strategy, where you’ll have nothing but you’ll be happy. You’ll have no constitution or Bill of Rights and no property rights. Everybody will be dirt poor because that’s what the global elites want.
This is what CRT, social credit scores are all about. They want to control the population on every level.
It’s best to find a mobile home that’s small enough that you can transport yourself or perhaps buy a small piece of land in order to set it on.
Greedy Americans are also wrecking these communities…
I live in a resident owned over 55 mobile home park. I love it. It is a real community. A group of volunteers mow the grass, change the street light bulbs, trim trees etc. I pitched in painting the mail sheds. This has helped keep our rent low. When looking for my home, a friend told me about resident owned parks. I did not look at anything but resident owned communities.
where is your park? I found a couple parks in Arizona that the residents own their own lots.
@@eckankar7756 I live in Massachusetts
@@eckankar7756 We own the park. New residents pay $1000 and become members. When they leave, the $1000 is refunded. Our rent includes street snow plowing, trash pickup ( no having to pay for town trash bags), water, property taxes . The park is responsible for replacing driveways if needed. The park also pays for having septic systems pumped.
@@judimardula8685 So how much is the rent/payments?
@@judimardula8685 It's a cooperative.
This is truly a very sad problem that's been happening for years in mobile home parks. All across the nation. They're seriously needs to be legislation passed to protect the homeowners.
govt is behind it
James Conway..NICE TRY,are you a ... CIA/MOSSAD/MI6 Agent ? Using the corrupt broken scheme of ...CONTROL-MIND (government definition) to fix it...really ???
Community Land Trust are another way of preserving the affordability of the land.
Protect them? They don’t own the land? Who’s fault is that?
@@dcg590 so by using your logic. I guess you don't think that people that buy a condo deserve any kind of protection either. Because all those people in the condo building don't own the land that the building sits on. However they're not expecting the Builder or the owner of that property to just up and sell it to somebody else that forces a eviction for the whole building. Most people would consider that very wrong. One of the biggest misconceptions about mobile homes is people have this idea they can just up and move the mobile home because it's mobile. But in today's world with mobile homes that's not always the case. And even if the home can be moved it's extremely expensive. Often times the city or county or municipality will deny you permission to even do so in the first place. Just like a person can't have a condo picked up and move somewhere else. So the laws should not treat a mobile home park differently than a condominium building. That's why I say there should be government agencies to protect people that live in mobile homes or mobile home parks. Especially if there are pre-existing leases those leases should be honored. Without fear that the property will be sold out from underneath them. And literally taken away.
I have been a manufactured homeowner in a community park twice, and now I live in a manufactured home on a foundation on land that I own. This decision of the state to open the opportunity for manufactured homeowners to buy the property/community is brilliant. In the first manufactured home I bought, the "lot rents" increased to the point that it was all I could do to keep up with the lot rent and the mortgage on the home. I was an RN working for a well-paying union university medical center. I know that at least one of my neighbors was working for an automobile manufacturing plant like Chevy/Ford and other people in our community both the spouses had to work to keep up with things. This should not happen when you are living in a manufactured community. These are supposed to be starter homes and places to retire, but they literally are out-pricing their residents.
It’s all about price gouging. I’m an RN also and live in trailor park. Can’t afford land. No bank will finance it. Rent is getting high!
When (what we’re) middle class jobs can no longer provide the fundamentals to sustain your life, then society will collapse. Time will tell if anything changes in this situation.
Just heartbreaking & beyond maddening 🤬🤬
I bought my land first 23 years ago. 22 years ago I bought the mobile home to go on it. I paid for my well, septic, and electricity run to the property. After 2 years the house was declared affixed on the land. So I just have my mortgage and it is a fixed rate.
I can see renting a mobile home for a short time to build up some savings but never long time. MH depreciate rapidly. Even if you own the home you don't own the land and that makes you a renter for life. I was a hairdresser and bought a small house, now long paid off.
@@eckankar7756 There are the people who put their manufactured homes on land that they own. But other than that, I agree with you. The other thing about manufactured home living that also makes it like renting, is you are at the mercy of the management company when it comes to lot rent.
Happening here in South Carolina too! My Mom was forced out of her park last year. We had to help come up with about $5000 to pay for it. Everyone said just get a government apartment. For one thing, there's a 2-3 year waiting list. You don't just go get one. For another thing, you spend the rest of your life being owned by the government. You have to account for every cent you make and you usually can't have a pet. It becomes all about them and you're just a fly on their wall. That's not a fun way to live.
Unbelievable what’s Happening to this country! I fear people will become suicidal from the Entire Nightmare of it ALL 😐
These companies buying up these mom and pop, mobile home Parks, is getting out of hand! They found a legal way, to get rich, buying these low income parks. They raise the lot rent so high, people have to abandon their trailers, the company then takes ownership of the home and sells or rents it out. I wish everyone could afford to have their homes pulled out and relocate them. Leave the company with an empty park!
This is happening more and more, and purposely. The Govt (and other "elite" groups) are pushing people away from buying single family homes, and then, pushing renters toward a UBI - Universal Basic Income - a low type of "salary" (much like the govt checks that were sent out during the pandemic) that will be just enough to keep people parked in their tiny expensive apartments, with little possibility of purchasing a home, or even moving out of their apt. In most cities, you can see many boxy, 3-4-5-story apt complexes going up everywhere; those are part of the whole scheme. Thousands of these complexes are going up in cities, because in the end, shoe-horning people into these apartments will make them easier to track and control. And that is the ultimate goal (or one of them) of the elites: a small minority of the very rich controlling the rest of the population.
Well said.
FACTS!!
The key to owning any thing in real estate is owning the land under the home..If not, without it you are a glorified RENTER..This includes HOA'S, Condos, APT'S Farms and businesses..
But if you have a mortgage, high taxes, and high utility bills, then the home owns you thus making you a glorified renter.
Not really I made money on my 4 th condo only one condo I lost money in 2008, I can sell it if the condo fee goes up, you can not sell you your apartment or rental you walk with nothing I walk with money so not a glorified renter. These sell in one day or less thats how in demand mine is.
@@zoeyzed5127 It's still only a step above renting though the only advantage is you can make money off the property.
No one actually owns the land if they are paying property taxes. Any local government can rezone anything at any time.
@@zoeyzed5127 with a condo you are partial owner of the land with a MH home you just own the home.
I own the 1/2 acre that my mobile home sits on. In 28 years I have purchased 5 different trailers on my land. The house I live in now was manufactured in 1983. I have owned it since 2005, when I bought it from my neighbor. I paid $2,500 for it (earned income credit). It's about had it now, but I don't owe rent or have house payments. My property taxes are $5.00 per year because I am over 65. Before this one I had a 4 bedroom double wide, but the finance company raised my monthly payments from $350.00 a month to $625.00 a month. I told them to come and get it and they did while I cried.
That is pretty cool that you did that with the lot. I’m sorry that you had to go through that experience though.
What state has such cheap property tax?
Beautiful story, but the problem is not new. Thirty years ago mother and stepdad bought a mobile home in a park with a locally owned landlord east of Phoenix, then the park was sold to the proverbial "out of state investor." Soon the costs of rent and utilities skyrocketed. The folks and some of their friends in the park decided to get even, and remarkably had the skills and money to pull it off. They bought raw land nearby, subdivided it and created the first occupant owned park in the region. Plus they moved their mobile homes from the old park to their new park. An old park with vacant lots does not have curb appeal! I am so glad that now there is a push for creative ways for old parks to become occupant owned
aScienceGuy...The problem (Your name)...
The elderly, retired residents in all those mobile home parks in Apache Junction, Glendale and others will slowly be kicked off the property now that real estate prices make the land more valuable than the small pittance of rent received from residents on fixed incomes.
I'm thinking the older folks should set themselves up in vans and travel in caravans. Quartzsite is filling up with the forgotten people looking for a way to survive.
So they make home ownership unattainable raise the rents then when people have mobile trailers they say can’t be here…. Wow
This reminded me of the story of Pedder Bay MHP in BC, Canada from several years ago. The residents of the park, many of whom had lived there for thirty-five years and had made major investments in improving their homes, were given twelve months notice to vacate because the company was converting the property to a marina and hotel. The residents banded together and sued the corporation to stop the evictions, but the weak provincial legislation over manufactured homes meant they lost. Many of the homes could not be moved and there was nowhere to move them anyway. Homeowners lost everything. The tragedy was exemplified by a 91 year old resident who was laying the last piece of his new hardwood floor and died. After this horrible outcome I started work on what was ironically called the Colorado Model. The government would lease crown land for $99 a year to a property management company, essentially a Land Trust. The manufactured homes built locally would be transported to the site from the factory with a temporary permit. Once installed on the site a provincial inspector would confirm the installation and hookups to water, sewer and electrical and then the home would be certified as a permanent home with all the same requirements as a stick built home including payment of local property taxes and the need for permits for any additions. Because of this certification as a standard home CMHC guaranteed mortgage financing would be available from any bank. It was a win win for everyone. I got a major development company to do the site infrastructure like roads, sewers, water and electrical for a ten percent interest in the property company. I got a local manufactured home builder to agree to supply a model home for the site. I got the local Mayor plus the local Westbank Indian Band to agree to approve the project. I got the CMHC to agree to offer standard financing. The whole project fell apart when the provincial Minister of Housing failed to support the concept because he "didn't want to jeopardize the development of any home parks in BC". This despite the fact that there was not a single park planned anywhere in the entire province. The affordable housing crisis has only gotten much worse since then and this is still a viable option.
Wow you’re amazing for even trying implement a solution! Sorry things didn’t work out because of greed.
What an awesome job you did! Hopefully you will succeed if you try again.
Hi-way robbery
Inspired by your efforts.
Do you REALLY think they're trying to solve the housing problem?
Hint....the anwser isn't yes.
Land is so expensive and most zoning and ordinance laws restrict manufactured structures! Most land is stipulated that you stick build. It’s outrageous
Yes, the zoning is the big issue. Lots of land is relatively affordable, but it doesn't matter because the more affordable buildings are not allowed. It's as though the laws require people to spend more than they can afford. The rich get richer and the poor become homeless.
heck, even mfg homes are VERY expensive anymore. A new single wide will cost between $60K to $150K, most are nice inside, not "trailer trash" at all. Lots of videos on You Tube that feature walk thrus of new mfg homes. I would love one myself. Just my health and retirement income says "not affordable"
We need this in all states. We are being sold to the highest bidder. That is not US citizens buying it may seem like they are but not.
research BlackRock
This is how my grandfather became homeless and ended up living on the streets at the age of 70 Years old. He'd owned his home for 20 years in the same park. They gave him 30 days to get out of the park. No park would let him move it to there because his home was to old.
That's horrible! Was he able to get housing afterward?
So he had 2 decades to prepare. If you rent, this is the risk. And why did you let him live on the street?
Kudos to Sonia Gutierrez and the rest of the Rocky Mtn PBS team for presenting this story! Nice to see a sliver of hope in these dark times.
Thank you! I agree, I loved reporting on both of the communities who were able to buy the land for residents!
For me, this story is something which not only defines the present & future living conditions of "healthy communities," but reflects the success of my own family, growing up in a trailer in a trailer park in the heart of Los Angeles from 1947-1956! We were a family of 4 living in a one room trailer, with a public payphone, a trailer park bathroom with showers, a laundry room with clotheslines, and a central garden. Thankfully, the land owners recognized their responsibility to tenants, and conscientiously took care of maintenance, as well as kept the grounds clean & free of excess clutter. My parents often spoke of the necessity of home ownership, as well as making certain there was land that was "included," when buying a home. Apparently, during those years, there began "land speculation," where property was often used as investment opportunities for the future. It became increasingly clearer that this was a heartless "game," for many ppl, who had no concern for people, who often bought condos, which did not include the land underneath. I know in our Capitalist society, it is an unpopular idea, but I always felt that there should be limits on "profit" for housing, which to me is a necessity for living. Just as water, air, & food are part of our limited resources, so is land, And, truthfully, when contemplating other resources, like oil, metals, minerals, & such publicly sourced products like gas or electricity , our govt. assumes certain use as " part of the public's need," and taxes, funds, or regulates "public value," thus limiting the allowable profit. Property is in reality no different. The fact that most ALL US Land was either stolen or part of Land Grants based on "Discovery" by intruders, should rest as a heavy responsibility on those claiming "ownership." And, since Landlords of property have shown no conscious self regulation, even in the face of homelessness, Climate change, and problems with population density & displacement, it is high time that we place limits or create stable environments for future generations. Otherwise, we will soon find that "this Land is My Land," is no longer a "song" for the ages, but a Mantra for the Money Makers, who may be US investors or even more likely, investors from far away lands, who have bought the benefits of ownership, without ever having paid in Taxes or Military Service or generations of US Labor forces that served in the building of this Nation and the preservation of its strength as a sovereign Land!
@@dianamorris1647 speech speech👍
@@dianamorris1647 Thanks well said!
This video is extremely informative and relevant to other states as well!! There is no mobile home park rent control or ceiling in WA state. Our rent goes up every year. Fair market value is now $750 a month. Our homes are well maintained, but too old to travel on state highways. Even if they were newer, there are no lots available in other parks. We are, as this video states, trapped. On the other hand, brick and mortar rentals are twice as costly...with low to no availability in this area. We can only hope to approach our city council to permanently change our zoning to mobile home, as opposed to multiple dwellings. We are managed by a very large management company representing a foreign owner. These mobile home issues are happening in every state. Congratulations to those who have been able to purchase their own parks!!
I live in WA state and agree with you, been trying to get to a 55+ park, rents and the mfg homes are too expensive now. And apt rents keep going up 20% a year.
Not to mention that on the majority of mobile homes, the towing tongue has been cut off & the road axles removed & the road lighting wires & taillights removed, plus you have to have the trailer inspected to see if it's even still roadworthy. There's also the small matter of the mobile home still being licensed to be allowed on the road at all. Most people assume that their "mobile home" won't be going anywhere ever again & let their trailer license lapse or have the title converted so that the trailer is registered as a permanent structure.
This program was so informative and well done. I will look at these parks and the people who live in them in a different way from now on. Thank you.
Oh this makes me so happy! That was the point, to show these communities for what they are. Thank you for watching and thank you for being so open about this topic.
I get people like skiing but it’s decimating our state. These towns only want rich people who will spend hundreds or thousands for a night of lodging. We need to reduce our focus on skiing and realize we don’t need to decimate the state to have boutique ski towns for rich people.
I am very happy when things work out in favor of our lower income families❤️
Well the globalist's goal is feudalism. "It's 2030 and YOU OWN NOTHING...." They aren't kidding when they say that. And that means THEY OWN IT ALL. They can't control everyone unless everyone is destitute. Then you'll have to take your poison shot if you want to eat.
I am very happy when contracts are enforced and the law is followed. 🇺🇸
Me too, but not at the expense of the people who own things and the tax payers who pay their way.
If you buy a mobile home and have to rent the lot you're just throwing your money away you so you really don't own anything. What are you going to do when you can no longer afford the lot rent
My sister and her husband bought a mobile home here in Florida turnkey for $15,000. Now those homes are $125,000. Not kidding. I worry too about the land not being theirs. I would hate to see the rug pulled out from under them. It’s a gigantic park.
@@IrishAnnie ,
Have they considered selling that mobile home and buying something that is on owned ground
@@debbieframpton3857 What about property taxes? I have seen some people say that's the same thing as renting.
@@swallowedinthesea11 ,
With the senior discount my real estate taxes this year are $939 for the year much cheaper then lot rent. Not the same
Like "buying" a condominium
Far too many people fall through the cracks. Something has to give ! We need to call these businesses out and we also need legislation for our lower income tenents.
Mobile home parks are in a limite3d supply because of Government regulations that make it nearly impossible to build a new park.
No developer will build them anyway....
@@wayneroberts6642 Why not? They are economically viable.
A friend of mine bought a nice mid sized family home. He made payments on it for about 10 years and when he wanted to put an in ground pool in he was getting some estimates he learned from one of the contractors or an inspector from the city that he lived in that he did NOT own the ground his home was on. He is now trying to sue the company that he bought it from because when he inquired about the property after being told he didn't own it they wanted like 5 times market value for the lots that the home was on. he felt he was ripped off because nowhere in the home loan contract does it mention anything about land at all. this is what happens when you don't pay for an attorney to do a title search and examine your real estate contract.
That's why you ALWAYS buy title insurance to see if all is well and clear, obviously he didn't do this- now he's paying the price,sad to say
Your friend obviously assumed the land came with the home. Many people have no idea how it works. I'm sorry your friend found out the hard way. If he can't prove they told him the land came with the home, then he may not win. People can say anything, but if it's not recorded somehow, then there's no proof. : (
When you buy a house it should describe the lot of terrain where it is located and constructed on, its measure, the boundaries etc... and then the complete description of the house etc... To be sure about what you are buying you must go first to the appropriate governmental offices to check if the property has any debt with the government or any other compromise upon it. Once it’s officially cleared, you may buy it if you are still interested and from then on you pay your property taxes religiously and from time to time you ask for a clear again. Personally I don’t like to even having to think about that theme. I pay and I get a clear. Interests are high and will be higher until Gods know when. So no, having our house in the safe side is better if we could.
@@adyarym You Don't Get It...they are under NO OBLIGATION to give you any truthful answers...it's not in their "Job Description" ...really, I have been told to write letters to Florida Judges and found out later they throw them away as they are under no obligation to read any letters...so they don't ...not even required to log any letter received....CORRUPTION is not a strong enough word when describing the USA.
Should have read the small print
EXCELLENT job reporting 👏. Beware mobile home owners as huge corporate entities are big business who have deep pockets to acquire these parks and jack up the rents which are approaching $1,000 per month. Wake up people and remain informed about what is really going on out there !
Rents were already $1000 for the land under mobile homes in Virginia five years ago.
I grew up in multiple trailer parks as a child. My grandmother lived nearby in a nice trailer. It was seemed as a safe haven to fall back on when you couldn't afford a house.
Very sad. I lived in a manufactured home park and the owners raised the lot rent higher than what was legal. And they got away with it. In the end I sold the house and was able to get out and find a regular house. I liked my neighbors there, but I couldn't continue to pay the steadily rising price for the dirt under my home.
I do understand the problems people face there.
Happening here in Ohio as well. Our family owned Park, sold January 1st, of this year and lot rent has increased twice, so far. Our lot rent was $185.00 a month, including water and trash. Now it's $400.00 a month, includes nothing. Every six months, this company has been increasing, lot rent. We are in the process of having our mobile home moved. I feel so bad for the ones that cannot afford to move their homes. Lot rent will keep rising and people will be forced out!
Still a deal!
@@dcg590 Depends on what part of the country one lives in.
In the first week of 2019 I bought a 29 of an acre riverfront legal off-grid no building restrictions in Southern Colorado for $7,500 with the only requirement to install a septic system and having electricity 500 ft away. A few months ago a neighboring lot the same size sold for twice the price in less than a minute after being posted on the internet. The realtor I bought from was landio, I bought it sight unseen I have absolutely no problems and I was able to visit the property 10 months later.
I am currently buying 41.2 acres in Las animas county for $15k. Out in the middle of no where just the way I like it.
Buy your own land. That’s the ticket.
Most of these people can’t afford that. That’s why they are renting
@@Starfish2145 I paid $4,000 for my 1/2 acre 27 years ago. We paid for it with my husband's back pay when he qualified for disability. Here in Texas quite a few people use their earned income credit refund to get the land, like my daughter is doing. I purchased the home I live in now with the last earned income credit we qualified for, $2,500+.
@@jeanbaker2087 well goodie for you, but we are talking about the here and now, 2022. And in places that are not Texas, lot prices and housing prices are thru the roof.
Everyone deserves affordable housing. It disgusts me how large companies buy out these parks and try to take advantage of the less fortunate. Laws should be put in place to prevent this from happening.
That is SO wonderful to see the residents stand and work together to keep their communities!!
Mannnn don't put ur mobile home in a park,Buy ur own land
RHP bought our park (not in Colorado) last year from a private owner. Sure wish we would have been offered the chance to purchase our plots!! It was a big secret till the day they took over. RHP sent us all kinds of documents of impending new rules. So far the bark is worse than the bite. However financially the rent is higher and we do expect more expenses added on as time goes by, water, garbage, etc...... I have one of the original trailers in the park. Just turned 50. Not bad shape for a 50 year old trailer but there were some months that raised anxiety.... until I decided that I would just handle it as it came. So far it's better than they threatened.
I just watched a documentary about this happening in Phoenix Arizona. The heartbreaking part of that situation is that the company waited five years after the property was sold to tell the residents that they needed to move out quickly!
If the tornado doesn't get you the landlord will.
GREED OF A FEW--BRINGS HARDSHIPS TO THE MANY.
The average size of a home in 1950 was *983* square feet for 3.37 people. The average size of a house in 2022 is *2,392* square feet for 2.93 people.
After over 30 years of being called the best all-around mobile home park in our area, it was turned over free and clear to an inept relative.
In less that 12 years the park was mortgaged to over 60% of it's value in a failed effort to expand and upgrade, lost half of it's lot rent income and been placed under direct
state monitoring and stewardship for failing to maintain well water quality, sewer and water line integrity and polluting a nearby waterway with improperly treated sewage plant runoff.
That's NOTHING compared to what these real estate speculators are doing. When you are paying more to rent the lot than the price tag for the mortgage note, then the land is sold out from under you without any option but to move off of the land . . . This is Cruelty.
Or stupidity (on the part of the "home" owner)
@@MDAdams72668 Not necessarily. In the past real estate speculators didn't prey on them like these days. Wasn't always an issue.
@@yixnorb5971 My point is that hoping someone else does not increase your costs is foolish
I'm in California, and there has not been a Mobile home park built since like 1979 in this state.
I found several mobile home parks near Palm Springs that were condo-ized years ago and they own the land under their mobile or modular homes and pay a homeowners fee to keep up the pools, club and Gates
Probably due to earthquakes in your State, insurance would be too high for mobile home parks today.
@@sandrabentley8111I'm a 4th generation Californian and never felt a earthquake. It's due to the price of property now days more than likely
Sonia, thank you so much for all your dedication and hard work on this story . It was very informative and stories like this one help other communities know that there are resources and organizations that can support them in situations like these.
That’s the goal! Thank you Dulce! This means a lot to me.
I get people like skiing but it’s decimating our state. These towns only want rich people who will spend hundreds or thousands for a night of lodging. We need to reduce our focus on skiing and realize we don’t need to decimate the state to have boutique ski towns for rich people.
The same is happenning here in Georgia. Developers are using the land to build much needed shopping malls since people have so much to splurge.
There was one mobile home in Villa Rica for $130k.
I wonder how much federal housing money is being used by these big corporations under the guise of providing "affordable" housing? Plenty would be my bet. Venture capitalism at it's finest.
The Chinese are doubtless buying up the parks. Other countries have rules against foreigners buying land; we should, too.
@@spiritmatter1553 What Chinese companies, specifically? Is this based on actual information? Or just anti-Chinese propaganda?
This should be against the law.
Give people a chance to buy the land there home sets on...OR buy out there home so they are not homeless. After all the person has paid the rent for the land. And has probably already paid more than the land is worth.
I want to see more from this reporter! She did an incredible job!!! 👍
Thank you! I will definitely have more to come :)
My parents live in the park in Leadville CO! I grew up in that park, and they have been there for over 30 years!
Love how the community bought the place
In 2020 a mobile home park in Rifle, Colorado, Kings Crown, did not give its residents notice that it was in process of being sold. A letter was only sent out to inform that there was a new owner.. Right away within months the space rent was increased more than $100 in January of 2021 and in 2022 another increase of more than $100 was done. Its a shame how people are being taken advantage of while the new owner gets richer and richer.
Government not protecting the people, its always about the $$$ and humans suffer.
How is $100 a bad deal? My property taxes went up 1k last year? Try owning land.
@@dcg590 One hundred extra per month on top of the old monthly space rent. That would be 1,200 extra per year plus the rest of the space cost as before so about 8,400 per year now. Being a home owner is much better.
Rifle is a rural community with very few jobs and dial up internet. Try to make more money from nothing.
There is no class of tenant that has long term security.
@@Melinda_Ross My SSI is $904, that is why many expats live here in Costa Rica where they can survive.
Well, in the USA that may be the case. In other parts of the World, where tenants are protected by their country's laws, long term security for tenants is not only a possibility, but quite often a regularity.
@@Dahrenhorst Laws protect the tenants, but not the property owners, sounds like Communism to me.
@@davidking4779 Of course there also laws to protect property owners. They just can't rip off tenants or rob them from their home at will like in the US.
That this is claimed communism by a US citizen proofs the archetypal worldwide recognition of US people as to have no idea at all what communism (or socialism) actually is.
@@Dahrenhorst Please let me know what Communism really is, what I see of it I don't like. I was raised where there was a modicum of freedom on both sides of a contract, I see that freedom going away bit by bit. I am Libertarian who believes in free market Capitalism and personal freedom and responsibility on both sides of a contract are important to us.
Yep I live in a mobile home Iv owned for 21 years, I rent the lot, when I moved in it was $411 a mon it is now over $900 with rent, water and pass on tax. I'm on disability and don't even get enough to pay the rent so I have a 80 year old roommate that wont be around forever, have no clue what I will do after or if they sold the land.
Kingsley management based out of Utah has been awful from my experience
This is a proven model in assisting low income family's to own and create investment and be proud of their neighbors and themselves. One word "HOME".
Thanks Sonia and for all the team too, this was an excellent report about the situation on the Mobile homes parks.
I bought a mobile home in Florida for $12,000 .. it is in a prime area.. 4 miles from the beach, one mile from all shopping.. I put $20,000 into it, new roof, new central air plus other things.. I love it, all my neighbors are great, no crime. I am 50 yards away from the clubhouse.l huge pool, tennis courts skeetball, weight room. My rent for the lot is $639.00. It’s a great place to live..
When was this?
@@sandrabentley8111 last year
The primer the area the more risk you are of this happening to you making all of your upgrades worthless when the corporate entities come a calling. What city are you located in and does it have any mobile home protection in place?
This whole housing crisis needs to be addressed. It's insane. Left or right, it's no longer a political issue. These corporations are literally killing poor people with their money games. It's disgusting.
Really wish everyone could come together. This issue affects us all, no matter what skin color you are, no matter what gender you are , we all just want to live our lives.
Well the globalist's goal is feudalism. "It's 2030 and YOU OWN NOTHING...." They aren't kidding when they say that. And that means THEY OWN IT ALL. They can't control everyone unless everyone is destitute. Then you'll have to take your poison shot if you want to eat.
This is happening everywhere as the previous ROIs on Mobile Home Parks continue to drop. The parks are being sold.
15:00 I am so happy for that community that was able to come together to purchase the land. ❤️❤️❤️ It was a really bright spot in an otherwise very depressing story. Mobile home ownership isn't what it used to be. In fact I don't think it's a feasible idea any longer due to the instability of not owning the land.
they claim the average price for a mobile home is 125,000; BUT the average price for all the mobile homes they showed in the video was probably less than 50,000.
Greed is running rampant!
Causing homelessness.😡
We lived in a nice mobile home park in the Bay Area (Hayward, CA) . Buying the used but newer model home was nice and affordable but years after there were rent increases. After ten years (retirement) we moved out and were able to buy a house in another state.
If states could provide many affordable home/communities for citizens it would be helpful for struggling families. Multimillionaire companies buying lands or raising rents and forcing tenants out is cruel.
Well the globalist's goal is feudalism. "It's 2030 and YOU OWN NOTHING...." They aren't kidding when they say that. And that means THEY OWN IT ALL. They can't control everyone unless everyone is destitute. Then you'll have to take your poison shot if you want to eat.
I live in a cooperative Mobile home park in Utah one of three that I know of the monthly coop fee includes water sewer garbage snow removal and basic cable, I soon as i found out that one came up for sale I grabbed it. Best decision I've made.
Our states need to consider all the ways that will help homeowners keep their homes and the land. Also there should be more Apartments that would allow renters the ability to Purchase their apartments… we need to have safe homes for lower income and fixed income families without the FEAR of someone raising prices that put them in the streets. #1 thing for Colorado should be SAFE AFFORDABLE HOUSING for the citizens of the state!
Our MHP was all seniors then changed to all ages. Many moved out and who stayed sued the park for failure to maintain and won. Park used to put out once a year how its worth so much money and they could easily raise the rates to match the area. NOPE not after the lawsuit all of that stopped. they had to put in lighting, fencing, all new gym equip, new locks on the clubhouse, cameras, hire private security (mainly for the drugs) bc of the lawsuit, issues like bathtub backup filling with the dyed blue foundation water, BBQ and shuffleboard ct in disrepair, geese with droppings that contain salmonella.. not one upgrade not one cleanup , Park now barely keeps up with basic maintenance bc its a cash cow. To put any kind of add on example a porch must go through the planning and permit city process even though homes are well over 40 yrs old. I had no idea what to even expect when we moved in learned a hard hard lesson. MH's were originally marketed as no maintenance.. senior friendly with the notion of a community. community meetings, get togethers. None of that is the case! while we don't pay taxes (home in place before 1971) at the same time the land/home is worth nothing... zero bc its never been assessed. If and when our park puts the land up for sale we will take any offer by developer, etc..and get the heck out lickety split.
This is great news due to the fact I live in a mobile home park , and their constantly raising the rent and selling the property. It's had 3 owners since I moved here in 2007. I love my home but I do have concerns as to the security of knowing since my retirement that it will stay the home I had hoped to always be in.
Get together with some others and buy an acre of land, move your mobile homes there, the bottom line is you have to own the land not just the MH.
FANTASTIC miniDocumentary. A+ work PBS of the Rocky Mountains!
All the comments to "buy the land" are not helpful. If people could afford it, they would have done it... the state and/or local governments should adopt regulations to protect people from this.
One thought, people not owning their land is like people who own an apartment in a high rise are subject to monthly fees. Or even hoa which can get very expensive too.
This is a big problem. Where are the people who work lower paying jobs supposed to live? Think if every place we shop, eat, and have cars serviced, and then all the folks who work there. Not everyone can be married to a higher earning spouse. Some have kids and other forms of housing restrict the number of people who can live there, and we don't want 3 families per apartment anyway...
I'm lucky because I'm single, no kids, so I can rent a bedroom, but if I had a kid, this would be nearly impossible.
EXACTLY!!!
Question. I live on the east coast and have heard that west of the Mississippi, about 30% of the land is owned by the federal government, decreasing the available housing opportunities. True? If so… madness!
We need a nationwide rent control that lowers the rent where these corporations can't make profits that's all they're in for it is the money it's going to have to be done or going to have massive homeless people and starvation
The rent should go up. It's rent. That's one of the reasons prople get their own property. I dont get why people are surprised at increasing prices.
I am one of the Mfg homes and have lived in mobile home parks. In Washington state there are laws on the books that protect the renters to an extent. I bought one mobile home in park and it was a couple years when I was notified that I would have to move. I was able to find a space in another park and was provided the funds to do so. Some were not as lucky as I was and had to abandon their homes. I now have a mfg home that is 1350 sq ft and it is on my private land. I have to live out of town a little ways but it is my land and no one can tell me to move. This is the only way I can feel like I own my home and not have to worry about the land being sold out from under me.
Young farmers need a group too! Bill is buy a ng up all the farm land. Can you help them get a voice?
I don't understand, in all seriousness, how people buy into mobile home parks and think that the rent for the space their house is on will never go up...over and over and over again. That's how the park makes a profit. The land has probably BEEN paid for. I bought into a mobile home park (great community I have to say)...but I never intended to stay there. It was a stepping stone. I did exactly what my realtor told me to do and after 5 years I sold my mobile home (ironically to the park) and bought a stick home on land.
That's nice and all, but for some people a mobile home is all they will ever be able to afford. Did you notice the old lady in this video who was being priced out?
@@ColonelKlink100 yes I did, and what the people are doing ... pricing people out should be against the law. It's shocking and heart breaking that it's not. Particularly the way they are doing it. That being said, the land is being rented by the tenants. They don't own it. They need to realize that going in. If they are on a fixed income, a mobile home is not in their best interest. This isn't something to get into and then worry about the rent fees later...
@@grlygirl1264 So if one cannot afford rent, other than broken down, filthy, infested areas, they should not at least try to find something livable? One of our problems,is the inability for many to understand living on minimum wage, paycheck to paycheck, and chose to believe they are at fault. most do the best they can with what little they have. while being treated like 3rd class citizens or just plain worthless,.Being taken advantage of by greedy, already deep deep pockets. One can get up so many times, before just giving up. the weight of struggles for many do create the massive homeless situations this country now has> Laws, regulations, and greed. push people to the edge and over. add to that so many with medical issues, that are never addressed due to the medical care in this country being used as a weapon against those with little.Again the rules that come with help are used for control of the masses, and it is ignored, blown off, and the term "lazy" is a political buzz word.
I don't think people buy into a mfg home park and think their rents won't go up, but let's face it, rents going up $200+ a month once or twice a year is absurd! Where is the justification? Just greed doesn't cut it. Especially for an economic group of people who have no other places to go other than the streets. It wouldn't be so bad if these people had alternative places to live. But if you can't afford $1000 a month rent on top of a mortgage of $75K for your home, then you SURE can't afford a stick built house
@@elliecobb2734 Correct. Letting these companies to charge obscene rents will to cause a lot of homelessness. Colorado shouldn't allow it but people want to blame the poor people for being poor so nothing will be done.
The Colorado housing market is hostile to anyone with limited funds. I left the state to find a place where I could retire and buy a home. Buying a home was completely out of reach given the huge price increases. Renters keep facing increases that are unpredictable. Shall we talk about the homeless population?
Downtown Denver Colorado is beginning to look like San Francisco. Drug addict and mentally ill homeless. The California companies coming into Colorado to buy the land the trailer parks are built on is a problem.
Wasn’t Colorado the state that offered “welfare for millionaires” some years ago?
@@spiritmatter1553 I’m not familiar with that.
we lived in a double-wide for a year, you buy your trailer, you lease the space for it to sit. the land you sit your trailer on isn't yours, it belongs to the person leasing the land. affordable land space for trailer parks is being pushed out to the outskirts of urban developments. Mobile homes have that characteristic, they're Mobile.
Thanks for covering something that everyone has ignored
Living in the mountains, mobile home parks used to be the real affordable housing for working people. But, with the advent of "affordable housing" regulations, taxes, etc. Big Government made incentivized land owners to sell their mobile home parks for big bucks. All the mobile home parks were sold once "affordable housing" became a priority for mountain governments.
Now it's sad to see people who bought "affordable housing" watching their property values fall way behind those of people who bought housing outside the government marketplace.
Affordable housing initiatives are the biggest scam against low income / working families.
I would never pay $125,000,00 for mobile home, maybe with the land, that is a ripped off, for the buyer. The government owns the land and the buyer will be paying rent forever 🙄. Way to go bill gates.
who paid $125 million for a mobile home? I missed that in the video. There are some very very nice mfg homes in the 3000 sq ft range that cost over $250K.
Plus, you don’t always have to buy new.
The whole thing makes me sick to my stomach. Such greed.
Excellent presentation, TY!
I live in a mobile home. I agree its kind of a middle ground area. It's your home in a sense. But it's not at the same time.
I still think it's better than apartment living.
People need to get together and buy large lots that they can move their mobile homes to!
Insurance prohibits this...
It’s crazy that at one point company’s was not checking for mobile home. It was. Nice to have something to live in that was Affordable
Resident owned communities are the answer to this. Organize, people!
If you don't own the land then don't buy a mobile home.
I agree Mobile Home parks should give their tenants opportunity to put a portion of money down towards ownership of the lot their mobile home sits... By rights that should be offered to their tenants. And Be reasonable about it.
This happening all over the country. Rent and real-estate prices are going through the roof.
So inspiring! Thank you fir sharing!
Costs more than it's worth to move it.
Refreshing story, beautiful people.
Haven't watched yet just starting the video and saw it was by PBS , I know they're coming with the best of the best news !
Ok.
That's so Awesome!! I'm glad there are Kind and Considerate people out there. 🙏😁 my boss passed away 3 years ago and I'm left with his greedy son to work with. It's so sad how all he cares about is getting his money. Our mobile home park is in need of repairs but he just wants money. Thank goodness for The county mandates...rents have not gone up in almost 3 years
So happy for them!
No you’re not.
You can buy a mobile home but you are buying a declining asset. They devalue like a car. And most of the time you don't own the land so you are renting anyway.
They're selling 40-year-old mobile homes for $35,000
That doesn't sound like any car that I've ever heard of 😂
I always knew growing up I would need a place to live. When I was a senior in high School In 1980 I bought my mobile home for $1,250. I went driving around in the country looking for land for sale and I came across an empty lot. I went to the courthouse to find out who owned it. It belonged to a judge who forgot all about it. He said you look like nice people how does $2,500 sound 🙂? 😧😯😳 I said "SOLD! I went to the bank, got the money and bought it. I have lived here ever since 😂. I have kept up all the repairs and my trailer is still in great shape. 40 years of no rent, no landlords, no rules ☺️. I didn't have to worry when COVID-19 hit. If something needs repaired I fix or replace it. One acre of land is plenty for what I need. 😊
We bought a lovely manufactured home in a 55+ park --- It had a golf course, wonderful pools, incredible community center. When we bought we were verbally told that the park was going to install new sod and irrigation once we moved in.
Ha! Never happened.
After my husband passed I decided to sell because between the 'lot lease' and property taxes the monthly cost was approaching a $1,000 a month --- I sold, used the money for a down payment on a small home with an HOA - Even with the HOA fees, mortgage and property taxes, it was about $200 less a month than the the monthly cost of the 55+ park.
Buyer beware! After moving out I heard absolute horror stories about retirees who had lived there for 15 to 20 years and now were reaching the point where they couldn't afford the 'lot lease' and their manufactured home is now worth a fraction of what they paid, leaving them in a very bad situation.
Municipalities better start passing ordinance and laws discouraging absentee landlords. Neighbors generally treat people better than shareholders.
We can refund or pay off student loans but we can't keep people, some, that are one step away from homeless, in their homes.
I think Sandra’s example demonstrates why low rent cost are much more profitable for the area then high ones. Sandra spent her rent deduction on work for her house, meaning instead of sending that money to a corp she gave blue collar contractors in the community work. Putting in the regulatory effort to ensure that rents are low might be costly in the short term but will pay itself back many times over with the increased economic activity from the benefiting residents
This happened in Las Vegas about 15-20 yrs ago. Very sad, people had to just walk away from retirement mobiles as there was no where to move them to.