“I Was Excited The Police Prosecuted Someone!” Julia Hartley-Brewer Fumes At Police
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- A shoplifter who made £500,000 in an “industrial scale” nationwide crime spree has been warned she can expect a substantial jail sentence.
TalkTV’s Julia Hartley-Brewer is joined by former Met detective Peter Bleksley to discuss Narinder Kaur’s shoplifting case and the state of policing.
Julia tells Peter: “When I read this story I was just excited to see that a shoplifter has been prosecuted!”
Peter then criticises the police for the failure to prosecute many forms of low level crime: “It’s not low level if you are that shopkeeper, it’s anything but!”
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Do the police do enough to prosecute 'low level crime?'
Obviously not 🙈
They no longer deal with antisocial behaviour so the perpetrators will just move onto to committing ever more serious crimes...the answer is therefore a resounding NO!....
They don't bother with any crime unless it's a thought or hurty words.
Tories hadn’t invested in the police force at all
No they do not , any thief should be procecuted even if its £1 worth of goods, the amount of thefts is another reason prices rise. The woke Police are too busy putting on rainbow suits and arresting people for silent prayer
They are clearly too busy prosecuting thought crimes to do anything about this
They must spend time criminalising schoolkids who scuff books... And to add insult to injury the books contain nothing but nonsense anyway...
And far too busy painting rainbows on their cars! 😏
That's offensive to people who identify as law abiding.
If you still allow yourself to believe this kind of nonsense - you’re all part of the problem. Almost zero police time is spent on this kind of thing, and it had no bearing whatsoever on normal crime - yet you allow yourself sheep-like to believe it because of media and social media.
@@desres2281 because part of the job of a police officer is to paint cars. Of course it is. Well done. Maybe they also paint buildings or install double glazing.
A "pretty Severe" sentence, probably 100 days community service and no recovery of costs
I find it depressing to keep witnessing it and how security staff are unable to do anything about it.
THE TROUBLE IS THE CUSTOMERS PAY THE BILL IN HIGHER PRICES. I THINK THIS IS THE TIP OF THE ICEBERG .
Lost the receipt? hahah. Goodness me. I couldn't work out how they gave her a refund without proof of purchase. Insane.
Totally agree - never seen any store here in Australia that would refund without a receipt- I find this all ludicrous 😤🇦🇺
Agreed, I know people who have lost their receipts and refused any refund
Tiara's ruse exploited a weakness in the system. She'd walk into a shop with a branded carrier bag prominently in hand, then, when no one was looking, slip something into it, like a throw for example.
Without leaving the store, Tiara would then continue browsing and select something for a similar amount of money to the throw - say, a shirt - which she wanted to 'buy'.
She'd then approach the till, produce the carrier bag with the throw inside and claim she'd bought it some time ago and wanted to return it, but had lost the receipt (she'd sometimes go through a performance, digging through her purse for the mislaid piece of paper).
She'd ask if she could exchange the throw for the shirt, carefully choosing another small item - let's say a pair of socks - to push the total over the value of the throw.
The switch would be made, and the new items would end up on the same receipt. Then, at a later date, she'd drive to another town and go to a branch of the same store with her 'legitimate' till receipt and claim a full cash refund for the shirt and socks. Performed again and again, it proved a highly lucrative scam.
@@nknpunnukhel8506 The shop assistant should have refused the exchange. No receipt. No swap, no exchange, nothing without proof of purchase or some other confirmation. You either produce a "proof" of purchase or it's just tough luck am afraid
I believe "pretty severe" means 18 months suspended these days, for a woman?
They are too busy rehearsing their dance routines for the Pride festival. The UK police, by their own actions, have lost the respect normally given by the citizens. They will never, never, never get it back.
I worked in a large store, and of course, we had our regular visitors most would become abusive and threaten staff members, but they knew the police would not always attend, what we had to do was to bar them from the store so the next time they entered we would call the police and state their where now trespassing as it was a greater offence than shoplifting and they had to attend.
They turn round now and tell you trespass is a civil offence and do nothing
Just remember. Every woman is an amazing and powerful person, and some are just thieves. ✌️
It’s not up2 the police who to charge , their job is to arrest anyone who commits a crime , then leave it up2 the courts, just lazy policing yet again 🙈
Of course the police charge, if they didn`t charge it wouldn`t go to court you nit
Every sun morn i shop at my tescos express a man not always the same man comes in with a big bag and takes all the cold meats and strolls out the staff say theres no point doing anything mean while tesco expect me to spend my hard earned money on my shopping full price so i can cover the losses i got so enraged and in a moment of madness told them to drop the bags or else they thought about it and left without the goods it was wrong but it made me feel better it still happens
Those low level crimes the police talk about are the training ground for larger crimes.
I was quite naughty as a teenager, it started small by pinching penny sweets from the corner shop, which then elevated to pinching milk from doorsteps, to stealing mail that wasn’t pushed through the letterbox properly, to shoplifting larger and more valuable things from large stores. Finally in 1979 my friend and I broke into somebody’s flat with intent to steal money. Thankfully we were caught red handed and ended up in Juvenile Court at age 14, we were each given a 12 month conditional discharge, so were dealt with leniently, it was the upset it caused to my parents that hurt me the most as I was always taught to be honest and had a good upbringing. I still don’t understand why I did such a thing and for many years had deep regrets about it.
My point is I was dealt with swiftly at the lower end of crime which taught me to work hard and earn my money honestly, letting people think they have got away with crime only usually goes in one direction, and that is escalation.
Sentences need to be tougher for what the police see as low level which by experience I know will effect escalation in a positive way.
Let’s face it, there are many shoplifters that have been caught hundreds of times yet face NO consequences. What is the point of being honest or working for a living?
Isnt Narinder Kaur the lady who was in Big Brother and a big advocate for Shamima Begum??
the shoplifter person is aged 53 ,I do not think that the Big Brother Narinder is that old .Also B B Kaur lives in Leicester and the other in Wiltshire .Just coincidental name
@@normanleighton6526 thank you 😂👍.
But I thought the very same thing
The Narinder from BB is now making a living as a gobby, left wing pundit on various channels. She's Shouty Shola 2.0. 🙄🙄
@@desres2281 lol. 😉👍
Shoplifters will not be deterred, the law encourages them.
She will make an excellent MP
When I started in the Criminal Justice World in the early 1980s Taking and driving away of a motor vehicle was an indictable offence with a max of 2 years imprisonment. The "Tough on crime "Tories downgraded it to purely summary and 6 months max in the mid 1990s and the police lost what scant interest they ever had in protecting the motorist, preferring to persecute them as they paid their fines and never caused trouble. Even when there were Home Office Labs the police refused to take finger-prints or DNA from recovered cars because it was too expensive, (too much trouble more like). No wonder the public neither trust nor support the police. To have some thief take your car or bike and thrash it and trash it, the most expensive thing in your life and Plod yawning and telling you to claim on the insurance. It's too much trouble to catch the perp. I am surprised that anyone supports the police at all and that they aren't constantly booed from the sidelines..
Its only a peace of metal mate
@@michaelegan6037 When your pride and joy gets nicked and you have to walk home in the rain after running up and down the multi-storey carpark looking in vain for where you parked your car and then being without personal transport for a month while still paying road tax and insurance, will you be saying Oh , well, its only metal! Especially when you pay Income tax and Rates to fund the useless police force .... let's not dignify it with the title "Service"
@@johnmarsh2078 get a life freak
He's great that guy. I watch him on all the detective shows.
Yeah, she’ll get community service as per usual, sentence never fits the crime.
I bet she was on benefits too.
I went to buy some bread, butter, milk and some coffee at the supermarket the other day, didn’t see much change from a tenner. Who’s robbing who?
Unless she was going to different shops, it would get to be a repetitive excuse more than two times from the same person.
What sort of message are we sending as a supposedly civilised society, when the police are basically saying it's okay to steal, as long as you take less than £200 worth of goods each time; theft is theft! 🙌
I wouldn't be surprised if that convicted prolific thief got sentenced to 2 weeks, or something lame like that.
I worked in a food shop years ago we were always getting hit with shoplifter gangs in the evenings when there was not many staff on duty. I worked in a city these gangs moved around they would probably steal £40 or £50 of meat, batteries, coffee, cheese, booze anything that was relatively high value most of it they swapped for drugs. But they didn't stop at one shop in the city there could be 10 food shops in a few miles they would visit every one so they propbably would steal £500 in a night then do exactly the same night after night.
@@ancietman Something needs to be done about this before things get worse, and shops are struggling as it is, with the virus, the growth of online shopping, and now the cost of living.
I'm in the wrong business...
The thief just made the threshold to be prosecuted 🤣🤣😂😂😂😂
This country has gone to the dogs, Lawlessness is here and it’s going to get worse, Crime today unfortunately does pay.
Hallelujah
Must be a network of them throughout the country, doing the the same thing, in addition to your everyday petty shoplifter.
Almost as good a grift as being a Match of The Day presenter.
The hours are better and he gets weekends off....No, like the guy, hes ok for a copper.
police compaird to other countries are an absolute joke in the UK ..
@@Peterbrendanalbert it only mater's to the people who really think they are above others.
so you go on holiday and try the language it's not perfect but you get understood even if it's just with your hands
The 52 year old from Wiltshire 😆 I didn't know Wiltshire was in India.
Diversity is our strength don't you know.
People want a pay rise but the company's are unable to give them one because of this shoplifting it needs to. look into it a shop only has 1theif stealing everyday now can they afford a payrise?
pretty severe...?.....100 pound fine ?
I’m very surprised that the shoplifter was charged ,the police don’t even turn up some times ,ESPECIALLY WHEN THEY FIND OUT ITS A NON WHITE PERSON 😂😂😂😂😂
Crime is crime. Shoplifting is big business, the total cost is millions, this so called low level crime is always paid for by ordinary people, the rule of law must be upheld,
Used to get people doing this in ASDA when I worked there in the 2000s. Most of the time it was the same people but we couldn’t do a thing about it.
Hope they took all the profits off her that she made.
But HOW?
But I thought they were law abiding citizens!
Better the Stasi focus on high level crime such as praying and thinking.
Get out of jail free card!
Yes this is the career for me! But rather than £500k I want to make £1M.
Knew Narinda Kaur was a wrong un. Didn't realise she was a tea leaf
This is not shoplifting. This is a confidence scam.
Probably community service
Import
so if i steal 180 pounds worth of good a day, sell it at 100, that s 3000 per month without any risk, nice job.
what do you mean julia... and thats not a good thing ?..at 5.50 ?
Not right but tough times now (energy bills).... Wonder how many doing it because they are skint.?
No excuse ...People need to take responsibility...Not use excuses....
Have the police returned to policing actual crime instead of spending all their time trying to stitch up people on social media, or is this just a one-off? Remember when the cops actually DID something?
Half a million, peanuts compared to how much Tories have stolen from nation´s poorest.
Neither are right though.
@@vinparaffin6082 Of course neither are right, but you are missing the main point. Would she raise this issue if the thief´s name was John Smith or Jane Taylor ? She is showing her bigotry, just as she did with Lineker´s comment. Did she mention 800,000 "loan" for Boris Johnson ?
I had to close my small fashion shop because of shop lifters there were more of them than customers , The thief's knew they couldn't be touched and laughed at me when I threatened them with getting the police
So if we are now paying the private sector for policing, why are we paying the councils increasing high rates to cover policing?
When I was working for a supermarket chain in the late 80s early 90s we did stop shoplifters and we were actually good at doing so and they were prosecuted even if it was for a pound or two . Remember every item stolen means less profit the actual store has made and could mean the store has to close , company wide shop lifting runs into tens of millions a year so industry wide it is probably billions a year . All this BS about shop lifters suing that was never heard of in my day .
I live in an area of very low crime------ until now. Next door neighbour advertised his Merc for sale a couple of men from distant parts came to look at it. They said they would come back next day, they did not wait that long, they returned at 2200hrs same day and took it. The police came to deliver the 'crime number' 3 days later and said that 8 quality cars had been stolen locally in the last 24 hrs. They said they do not now investigate car theft. They do react quickly to online thought crimes though. My neighbour had door cameras in his entrance and was a nervous about showing them to the police in case they made him remove his racist cameras.
Good wages in THEFT. Bet she’ll have probation or suspended sentence. So nice to hear a REAL POLICEMAN.
If this woman had been THINKING about shop lifting then she would be in prison the next day...
Ha ha, very good.
i knew a man who used by a bottle of cider drink half then piss in it then take it back to the shop say it had s funny smell and get a refund and often an apologgy he never got cought
Yes he did, but he never realised the shop keeper was selling him the same bottle every time..
Don't get too excited Julia, they were probably just waiting for their policing team collegues to assemble before they started policing your tweets again.
She was only caught when she made an antisocial tweet
Got that tweet?
@@run2cat4run no I passed it to the police
@@robinburn4974 ah so it’s BS
😂😂
@@run2cat4run 😂😂 you must be a copper
I worked in retail up until 20 years ago the police didn't want to know about shoplifters then so its bound to be worse now.
Every single crime, no matter how small should be investigated and the perpetrators punished accordingly. I have no idea what the percentage of the population commit crime, but it is growing and causing decent people to loose their businesses and or jobs.
Ring the police and say someone has offended you on line and 2 or 3 squad cars will arrive under blue lights.
Nice British name 🙄
Peter Bleksley s book " Manhunt" , seen over his left shoulder, is a great read.
Nah!! The police don't arrest anybody that actually committed a real crime. That means hard work. No they will just issue an official crime number, dump it in the recycle bin on the computer and go back to the country club golf course, in time for lunch.
Dealing with shoplifters the past 10 years I guarantee she is far from alone. There are shoplifters who have been doing this for over 20years. Lots of theft doesn't get tell because staff don't have time to report, don't believe the police will do anything
Security gard asalted a man and he's till working in shopping centre.
Narinder Kaur, the namesake of the annoying woman 'social commentator' on that other channel.
It's evidence that as to be enough to prosecute via CPS so while in custody ohh on bail the police need to gather all evidence possible to charge, if their to attend ppls homes & businesses when they report a crime its then not possible for evidence to be destroyed like Prints, Dna ohh CCTV oh even flea to another place, every criminal will starts low then the ppl go big if their getting away with the low crime offences.
Plus it's a massive signal to others if more is dne on all offences, so if your to try prevent our younger generation early you hopefully stop them been influenced by older adults who will encourage our youth for self gain...cause we also have vulnerable children here who are targeted to, although the left like to think we don't.
Total JOKE THE POLICE FARCE
A police officer may spend more than 40 hours preparing a case for prosecution. That's a whole week's work It's boring and tedious and when they are found guilty their mummy didn't love them, they are on the spectrum etc and they don't get punished.
Now if someone phones in and says their neighbour has a toy gun they can get to play with their toys. A nice bit of excitement and maybe the chance to shoot someone. Much more interesting than a smelly drug addicted burglar or shoplifter.
Andddd…we shall see more and more as the cost of living increases🤷🏻♂️🤦♂️
🤔Don't worry, my council tax for the police has gone up 6.5%, for "better policing". Problem solved. Smh.
JULIET you are a great news correspondent. More stories on deliberately caused madness. You make life better Julia with your courageous new and opinions. Thank you.
If u aunt Whyte they won't prosecute u ,if they try they just go bak ome !!?!?!!;:':;":;
No doubt it will be all down to poverty,rascism , not enough benefits, bullying at school ,waiting for an nhs appointment,.yes any thing like greed,dishonesty,or just being a criminal.
The police aren't doing any thing as they've been instructed not to.
The questions is why??
The answer is that all the high street shops are disappearing!.
Who benefits from this👍
another US (California) import.
Anyone else getting sick of this ex detective Peter bleksley appearing everywhere on tele? Surely there are other people that could give different views...
Don't hold your breath she might go to prison theres thousands like her shoplifting every day.
This ex -copper was on that contrived TV show where they try to catch fugitives running around country with a camera crew. no one is supposed to notice
Another valid point is that she is a migrant, behaving criminally in Britain!
And the police care? I doubt if that ex copper did anything whilst he was one
Pity they don't take same attitude to some other Summery only offences, hmmmm, ex Met 😮
Female going to prison?
3 years max, out in 14 months.
The customer is always right......
This is no longer low level crime. The impact to the business and
You talk to much , give your guest a chance.
Is that the same Narinder who comes onto GB news
What that person and others do can never be re couped
I bet she gets no more than 5 years out in 2.
Ghastly
Julia - do you realise that for all but the least serious offences, it is not a police decision to prosecute? To say you’re happy that police have “decided” to do so is a complete misread of how it actually works in practice. For anything more serious than low level petty theft (which this isn’t) or a very minor assault with no injury (pushing someone or jabbing them with a finger) the police do not decide whether to prosecute- it would be the CPS who will only do so if given overwhelming evidence - which is often an impossible bar to reach and requires enormous amounts of time and resources which are often not available.
Traditional english nane . . .