Dual Universe: Recalled to Life (Patch 0.23 fixes)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 9 ก.พ. 2025
- CORRECTION: Element destruction in PvE and recycling is to be removed soon, but for now is still in the game.
I had misread the dev blog on the recovery which can be found here:
board.dualtheg...
Dual Universe entered update 0.23 amidst concern, with part of the community worried that, amongst other issues, space for the solo player was eroded, that some players had an unfair chance to prepare for the upcoming changes, and that their most fun ships were grounded due to the risk of permanent loss in PvE.
Following JC Baillie's tweet stating that NQ had heard the Dual Universe community, NQ, in a staggeringly quick release, have addressed most of the issues and have, to quote Charles Dickens, Recalled to Life, their game.
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Thanks for watching!
CORRECTION: Element destruction in PvE and recycling is to be removed soon, but for now is still in the game
I do apologise, I misread the dev blog on the recovery which can be found here:
board.dualthegame.com/index.php?/topic/21715-weve-heard-you/
It seems we are all still grounded. Hopefully they will restore ships after they remove PvE element destruction.
Sorry to hear about your cat Shamsie. Really sad to hear, but great to see you back and creating awesome content as always. Really looking forward to the Christmas specials, hoping it becomes a regular yearly slot to replace the queens speech 😂❤️
Thank you so much, mate. I appreciate it.
My condolences for your cat. My cat is family to me and i know what it feels like to loose family. Hope you manage to have a good holiday despite the sad circumstances you're experiencing and thanks for the update!
Thanks, Justin. I appreciate it. He is terribly missed.
Sorry to hear about your cat. Thank you for the videos. You've made my life in DU a lot better.
Glad to hear that the videos are helping you! Thank you for your kind words about my cat.
You do great videos! Finally getting my feet back on the ground as a solo/2-3 player. Building out the XL base for when more of my friends get convinced to play. Lmao.
Great to hear that! I hope your friends join you and that you all enjoy your time in the game!
My cat died 3 months ago. He was by my side for over 20 years. I still cry almost every day when I think of him.
Feel with you
Narkaja, I'm sorry to hear of your loss. They really are part of the family, little things. I'll remember this little man for the rest of my life for sure, even though he came to us unwell and with not much life left, he certainly lived it to the fullest.
I'm so sorry about your loss, Shamsy. Hang in there. That said, I love this video. You are top notch. Keep doing what you do! In game I am PendingOperation. See you around.
Thank you, I do really appreciate the kind words.
So sorry for your loss Shams.
Thanks, Mike.
You have a realy relaxing voice
Thank you! That's kind of you to say.
It takes about a week for someone to break an MMO habit, especially in cases where they have other games to go to (cyberpunk and steam sale currently). The fact that lightening the changes took over a week, means quite a few players aren't coming back. Especially in smaller groups where they won't have the resources to get their industry back up in under an additional week of time.
RIP Shams Cat
thank you.
I'm am very sorry to hear about the passing of your cat.
Thank you, Jeremiah. I appreciate that.
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Tree's in the shape of a Christmas tree.
Hah! I didn't notice.
Sorry to hear about your cat Shamsy. I stuck it out through the patch. I've spent about 50 mil for schematics so far. They did pull back some of the changes, and fixed some things. See you sometime in game.
I'm glad to hear that, Mark! I hope you're still having fun in game. See you there, some time!
@@ShamsTales Stop by and say hello sometime. ::pos{0,2,-37.7510,-38.9638,116.8136}
also big hugs for the ole kitty
thank you!
Sorry to hear about your cat, I am sure he is playing with all of the other kitties in heaven. I have been waiting for your opinion on this, thank you for breaking it down.
Thank you so much! I appreciate the kind words
sorry about your cat Shams, that is super tough
Thank you, buddy. I appreciate it.
Glad I saw this cause I was done with the game.
I'm glad if you've found it useful!
been saying it since day 1 about a test server. i almost rage quit the game, gave it another chance and im hooked again.
I'm glad you're back, buddy.
Sorry about the cat 😢 They are such a big part of your family.
Thank you, and yes, they leave such a void when they pass on.
I stopped playing after that last patch, it destroyed me as a solo player.
Hey, I'm sorry to hear that. I hope you're enjoying your game time, wherever you're spending it buddy. You're always welcome here, and I'll be trying to add more content other than DU in this channel at some point soon.
Sorry to hear about your cat, it can be very hard losing a pet.
Thank you.
I'm glad everyone likes how NQ updated update. Hope more people join the game. And I hope NQ will do their best to deliver more playable content, new ways to earn money
I feel the long term survival of the game will depend on that, Vasilii, new content is vital. I hope they can keep improving the current content and add more.
sorry to hear about your cat mate :(
Thanks, Darren.
My condolenses for the loss of your family pet.
Thank you, Mike.
Sham do you sell your warp capable mining ship? Would love to buy one
The Zamburak? I give the blueprints out for free matey.
"Recovery".... nice way of putting it.
They certainly are trying very hard to recover. Bad patches happen (hopefully lessons are learnt from this) but they are working hard and listening to feedback. I try to give credit where it's due, but I do hear you. I can understand your sentiment.
I just wonder how this could have happened in the first place. Nothing in this patch adds up, and really for someone with some insight this was obvious to see. I must say I have lost what little faith in NQs judgement I had left.
I hear what you are saying, basically they answered very quick to the backlash they recieved. However (and yes the test server will help with that in the future) are we not allowed to slam them for not having thought this through entirely before releasing? This is not a regular beta, they made it into a beta which we have to pay for to play. So I can expect a bit of professionalism in their releases.
I'm already looking past the fact that this beta is a misnomer, as a beta is feature complete and is undergoing stability changes and performance improvements. this is very much an alpha in that sense. Yet I'm willing to look past that, but still expect them to test their releases, I don't pay to test the game for them. I pay to play.
The feeling i have with NQ in the past 4 months that i'm with them is that they are making things up as they go along... they want the game to go in a direction so they push it there. Not really thinking about the impact they release that within 1 day after telling us about the massive changes. Then they see problems with it and work on fixes for that. instead of thinking ahead. A small example where they do stuff and not think about consequences: they introduce the big industry change, see some backlash about people investing talents in crafting and now unable to use those talents because they are not going to invest in factorybuilding. So NQ thinks, ok, lets wipe talents. boom,. done. Without thinking of impact, litterally everyone has to start spending 12 million talentpoints clicking talents one by one. They could have thought of a better way. an consumable item, given to everyone. consumed on use, but resets talent points if you want to. Way less friction than the reactive development and quick releasing they do now.
I look at the coming of this test server with reserved positiveness
At the one hand it will help them push out changes, make us find all the problems, and then have them release fixes.
But I also fear they will just let us do the testing and put out releases on that test server that are ridden with bugs for us to find. Most studio's with test servers have downsized QA teams. So i fear it will not make them work more professionally... they will just let the test server do the testing.
we'll have to see in the future i guess.
edit: i do not agree we have a shared responsability to test the game on the test server though. I don't pay to test the stuff i'm later gonna play, i pay to play it. NQ has full responsability to test their product.
We do get to slam them, naturally, and many players have. Some that have remained positive and have chosen not to slam them are equally aggrieved but are trying to stay positive. We can continue to provide feedback, knowing that at least they are in fact listening, and hope that they improve their systems moving forward.
Hopefully, with expanding the test server, the amount of information available to them about systems and features will increase. I also hear what you're saying about responsibility, and I accept the point. You don't have any responsibility, but the option will be there should you want to.
The talent point reset should have been an opt-in system, yes, reinvesting was a chore. Even if there was a way to invest in, say, a level 4 or 5 skill with all of the prerequisites in one click, it would have been less tedious, but, I was excited about the clean slate as well so I spent the hour or so fixing the talents again carefully.
@@ShamsTales you are right man, staying positive is always more fun than being negative, for both parties ;) but it is too easy to take a negative stance in all this. they are above all taking our money to make this game, so we ask a little thinking before they act. whether it's putting out a patch or reacting quickly to backlash. They have to take everything into account. And the history has not been on their side on this one. (removing constructs with a quick query on the DB cost us weeks of missing constructs all over the place) This should be a think they can test. It will be easier to see the outcome of such a change on a test server, but that doesn't mean they could have already tested that query on a copy of the live servers without the need to spin up an entire server for that. they could just do it on a copy of that database. And that's where my fears lay ... a test server will be super helpful, yet NQ will not learn to test before they put stuff out, they will use the test server for it.
but again, i remain a player, and I will have to see in the next 2 months if they learn from the current mistakes or just keep repeating them and fixing them quickly.
the latter is nice for once, but you have to learn from them too!
All they did was make a bad idea less bad by making it cheaper. They should have left basic items producible and made schematics and skill points needed for higher tiered items. It would have still stung but it wouldn't have locked out all industry at once. I'm still playing but seriously considered leaving. Hard to get behind a game developer who thinks it's okay to destroy months of work their players put into the game. Now they are talking about nerfing mining with the linked container nerf in the works.
Hey Dan. The mining linked container nefs they've said are meant to apply for very deep mining, as in, over a kilometer away from your container, and they've talked about systems to manage that, like mining drones and other active means of managing the ore you mine.
I agree that the very basic, tier 1 ore, refined products, and produced elements should have been free or even cheaper than this, but I hear what they're saying about it being something that needed to be worked for more than it was before. They were always intending to make industry this way, but due to time (and I think also money) constraints, had to implement things in this order. It wasn't ideal, and this is not the end form of industry, they're going to be making more changes too farther down the production pipeline.
@@ShamsTales Is anyone really calling for this nerf is there a real outcry from the player/payer base? There is only 3 main things in the game to do mining, crafting/industry and PvP instead of trying to add to the game through subtraction they need to put the devs time to better use and add more to the game. And if they are going to come up with a "solution" to manage it anyway then just leave what really isnt broke alone because it will only cause issues, like needing another skill point reset.
This is just like the maneuver tool nerf someone wasted their time and moved their ship some distance JC got so offended and thought it was so game breaking that he wasted a devs time on a nerf, do you really think it was happening to such an extent that it needed to be nerfed?
One good thing about 0.23 is they got that insanely game breaking Bonsai tree market under control with the 37,000,000 Schematic price. LOL
Sorry for ure loss mate. Im a big fan of u as u know however I am this time forced to disagree. I crashed my AGG ship last night same day this vid was released the core blew and cascaded every element was destroyed. Its all fixed now BUT my AGG is now on 2 lives as is every part of that ship. Saying we are no longer grounded is wrong.
Hi rogue trooper, thank you for your kind words. You can try to remove the agg and replace it, hopefully that'll return it to three lives? If not, perhaps a support ticket? I'll ask for more clarification from NQ on this. I've not had sn issue with element repair lives lost in pve yet, but you and others have.
@@ShamsTales tried that no change put in a ticket but told long delay. Thanks for suggestion though.
Well damn, the pve damage system is being tested now, it's not quite in yet. We're both grounded :( Hopefully it'll be fixed soon. I'll make a correction tomorrow.
@@ShamsTales Thanks mate
A lot of NQ issues are that they dont listen to players and allow discord moderators abuse power.
Oh no, I hadn't heard anything about discord mod power issues. As for listening, their community team is being invested in right now, there's a lot of new faces, new hires, hopefully that situation will be greatly improved to your experience moving forward.
My elements are still losing lives in PVE. just crashed.
Hi Dan, yeap, I need to issue a correction on that, I'm having it too and so are a lot of others who have commented.
I think another thing they should do whilst some is on a tile even though it has not been claimed it should remain un claimable whilst they are still on it Why? well the other day, some one was mining a tile some one apparently turned up & buried his ship! He could dig it out because they claimed it! Now this guy was pissed & almost left the game, me & others told him to submit a ticket & also name & shame who did this, he got support from all of us persuading him not to give the game up! When PvP come more in to the game i.e. Territorial warfare outside the safe zone then you could simply fight for the tile or destroy the other ship e.g. kill the other player before you can claim, this could work like if your mining as soon as you see some else appearing on the same tile, you either force re spawn & get back to your ship to defend it or dig your way back to the surface to defend it! This would mean before you log off you would have either move your ship to safety or put down your claim! How attacks on owned tiles will work if some one is not online to defend in the future will be interesting! I suspect there will be a similar system to Eve? Force field protecting your hex goes into reinforcement like eve counts down depend on how much energy is supplying it etc or some other system giving the defender & attacking forces the opportunity to be online at the same time to cross weapons! lol
Horrible patch that leads to killing the game. After wasted in-game millions & still F'd the game. Kinda late to fix it. Have fun with the lack of returning players. If they had listened to players when there was all kinds of input that they really did ignore & wait till people were basically yelling at them how so horribly bad they broke it, it would probably be worth playing still. Plus they broke some great scripts by players they drove away prior to the patch. RIP
Hi Charles, I hear what you're saying, particularly about the script makers leaving the game, that was a tough blow. I'm hopeful that a public test server, moving forward, will mitigate situation like this, but I do still feel that the speed with which they fixed things (even though not everyone agrees with how they did it) was impressive. Perhaps, a long time from now, this will all be a distant memory in a thriving game.
Did your cat die of shock when they read 0.23 patchnotes ? RIP 🐱😔
No, he was unwell when he came to us, I'd hoped he'd have more life than this, but, it was not the case.
so wait, now ships in PVE won't ever need maintenance?
Yes they will, you'll have to repair anything you break amd it costs scrap materials to do so, but given server issues and so on, permanent loss of elements through PvE is disabled for now. It'll be re-enabled when the game is in a more stable build, I believe.
@@ShamsTales ah okay!!! thank you for clarifying! That had worried me a bit but now i feel better. I still want a reason to have to fix things :)
No worries!
Yea stopped playing nothing for a solo player
No worries mate, hopefully somewhere down the production line the game can spark your interest again with new content.
Too many bugs that causes crashes, element repair in pve has not been fixed, rdms is a mess, the ppl with heads up still have mega factories after patch. And the replacing core is silly but by all means keep praising them.
I have seen other complaints about pve element damage, I'm asking about that. I've praised their quick turnaroud, it was incredibly fast. The patch wasn't well tested at all, but I'm hoping for great improvements there moving forward. I stick by what I said, they're trying to fix things quickly, even if those things shouldn't have been broken in the first place.
@@ShamsTales Who watches the watchmen Shams?
I love that book
From what I've seen though, their community team is growing fast, and from what I've seen, the newly hired team are really competent. I hope NQ will increase in quality as a company moving forward. I may be wrong but there's enough to be down about in the world already, I'm gonna try and remain upbeat about this game, for now at least.
@@ShamsTales I wish I could share the same feeling but yesterday I found out the took the fetch feature out. A much needed feature at this stage of the game. Make me believe that they're in denial and that they're game has no bugs to need such a feature. Another worrying trend is ppl saying their dev team and customer support is growing and clearing tickets as to make it sound they're helping ppl but when you actually to talk to ppl that have made(me included) support tickets they all have gotten the same answer more or less..."this game is beta and we cannot reimburse for your loss". That's not good customer support or moving the right way forward if you ask me.
Sorry to hear about your cat dying. With that said,
Come on Shams... you went from being a nice guy to a wealthy shil for the game. They didn't 'fix' the game because they are attentive or community driven. They do NOT want solo/small groups in the game. But they need that beta money and population count. Massive drop in population count + massive drop in renewals + Panic, is what burnt the midnight oil, not NQ's good will...
"we understand that it’s too soon to press for intense specialized gameplay considering the lack of sources to earn money."
What this really means: when there is more ways to make money they will pull industry out of reach, again, for non-corporation gameplay.
Without a wipe the PTS is moot. They gave big corps another heads up on the schematics refund and how it will work and griefers and dickheads were all over it, making a TON of money, again... How far ahead do these dicks have to be??
The game, devs, griefers, big corporations are just kicking around the new/solo/small group players.
Hey Joe, I don't disagree with the main sentiment of what you're saying, but it's important to give credit when it's earned. They did listen, carefully, to conversations that took place on reddit, in forums, in Discords, and they implemented sweeping changes very quickly. It's still reasonable to be angry about the narrowing of scope for solo-play, and it's definitely reasonable to be angry at the unfair advantage taken by a proportion of the player base, including those who turned massive profits through the schematic price roll-back, I know that I am. But, even with the limited game systems in place at the moment, given the new price of schematics, and the fact that those prices will be tied to average market prices, meaning large orgs can drive down the price of items, but, that would also in turn drive down the price of schematics, solo/small group players are still able to compete. It was always an uphill fight for market share against enormous groups of dozens of players, but with these fixes, there is now some room to compete. I do hear what you're saying, but I gave my honest opinion in this video, which you're perfectly free to disagree with. I've never been called a shill before though! So, that's a first. If I'm wealthy now in game it's because I spent 2 days straight mining out all my super nodes, that was tough!
Thanks for your comments about my cat.
A wipe would be an idea though, maybe keep our talent training but reset all else? Hopefully they'll do something to address this imbalance.