I made a follow-up video comparing the English vs Japanese versions of this product: the results might surprise you! th-cam.com/video/yqmyHWmvL9k/w-d-xo.htmlsi=TEbN7KwJJ3d4fde8
Imho, the sad thing about the TCG Classic Collection is that, while the Box itself, the Damage Counters etc. are OBVIOUSLY targeted to players, I feel like the price is targeted to collectors only. It's just too expensive to just buy to use it for playing with friends etc. I'm currently trying to get a reasonably priced box just without the cards now instead.
Dude the only classic set worth getting is the japanese. Metal counters. Wood board and leather deck sleeves. Plus the cards look amazing. And what 250 msrp compared to the plastic counter part worth 400.. but yes tell me
Whooooa I honestly didn’t realize all the improvements for the Japanese version of the product, that’s WILD! And I’m usually pretty on top of the Japanese news 😅 Thanks for pointing this out!
@tcgbuyersclub yea not a fan of the English at all. Thought it was over priced and very cheesy. The japanese is the most beautiful product pokemon has released in a very very long time. Suck the English didn't follow
@tcgbuyersclub yea I do alot of Japanese now adays. So that and the other ex game box that came out with squirtle bulba and charmander promos was another amazing product this year from Japan. English needs to step up
The fact is for players over collectors, well that's exactly why I am thinking about getting it. The original cards were made for players, not collectors, and lolk at the market for them. These will fall into that same market eventually because the players who buy them will scuff all the cards.
The problem with your argument is that the set was literally designed to be played. Even the original reveal talked about it (I suppose even the ones who created the product are wrong about who they created the product for according to you though). It is supposed to be and designed to be a timeless set that you play with your kids and grandkids. That is why it is more expensive and made with higher quality materials, it is meant to be a high end product built to be played for decades. The price point is set to target whales. Aka now rich adult casual players that use to love Pokémon as a kid to give or play with there kids (aka exploiting nostalgia). They have so much money they do not care about the price or are so impulsive they do not know how to have self-control. That is why the old starter cards are included and focused on, but many cards are not from the original sets. It is not designed to appeal to collectors wanting old cards, but decks that are balanced to be played against each other. The set does not even contain the original Mewtwo, but a version that is stronger for this purpose. It is also why people are so annoyed with the price, because it is not designed for collectors. If it was, nobody would care about the price. A set for collectors would just be a holo reprint of the old set (or portion of it), include posters, mats, figurines, etc. It would not be a set built and focused on being played. You see, the Pokémon company is not that stupid. They are trying an experiment here, how much are people willing to buy for a premium set? If people say no, they will lower there prices. If yes, they will raise them. The Japanese set (which is made with more premium materials overall) was retailed for under $250 USD, which is closer to what the price of the product actually is. But the Pokémon Company does not have that much respect for western audiences (never did), we always get the short end of the stick. At 200-250, this set would be perfectly priced for what it is (which is why the Japanese set is in that price range), a high end play set aimed at people who use to play Pokémon that want a casual experience to appeal to there nostalgia and share it with there children. It is also why the price of the product is below 400 now and ebay listings are losing money on selling it now. There is even a chance that it will not be worth anything at all in a decade, especially if economic times get hard or something like that. There is nothing really collectorish about this set at all. The only reason it will have value as a collector item is because of the Pokémon branding and it's scarcity. Like how the Wii U is expensive because it was a financial failure while the Wii is cheap because it sold well. In conclusion, people are not "wrong" about the set at all. The set is $199.99 to $249.99 (or else Japan's MSRP would not put it in that price range) and because it isn't, people feel it is overpriced because it is.
I appreciate the detailed response and I agree with everything you’ve said, except that I was seeing a lot of these being opened and the singles resold, which suggests to me that a lot of collectors were going after the cards. I think your analysis is on point though and maybe I misread the market reaction to the product. I can tell you as someone who has played with it, the decks are a lot of fun 😊 I also plan to take a closer look at quality of the Japanese product too because it’s a tragedy if we paid more for worse quality 😩 Thanks again for watching!
Curious which site was used to find the price for the charizard UPC. Obviously the price is now irrelevant but doesn't look like anything I have used to find the best deals lol.
If you’re referring to the $95 price I shared in this video it was from Hill’s Wholesale Gaming at the time and I definitely should have included that information in the video 🙏 Editing to add that I’m not sponsored by them and have never ordered from them.
If I get it I am playing with it. Not only that, but people already go out of their way to buy the black star promo cards which have almost zero to no difference from the regular rare same for the uncommons. If it was up to Pokemon they would never do reprints, but it's what the fans want, so that is what they do. Buy it because you want it. Oh, yeah the card sellers even if they wanted to aren't buying up the English versions just to sell the cards themselves it's not financially possible, and even if they could they wouldn't buy them up as the item is jeopardized. The only places buying them other than stores are card or hobby stores and they aren't opening them up just to sell the cards individually. Another thing to note is that those cards don't have the 25-year anniversary stamp on them and while the English ones aren't the most desired right now is still have their own special rarity also WITHOUT the stamp and in ENGLISH still.
I want it. I'd buy it. If I didn't get laid off then I would have it... It certainly has its flaws it's not perfect, but it's not bad. If someone wants it bad enough they will buy it. Too expensive = I don't want it and will spend the 400 dollars on something else that costs the same. It doesn't matter what what you splice it... At the end of the day, it's Pokemon and the cards will always and forever hold their value and Pokemon will always and forever be a thing. Today it's worth 10 dollars and in 5 to 10 years will be worth 1,000 dollars. If the English version is already jeopardized then the item itself is gonna either hold its value or go up in value, especially since everyone who does want this product is getting the Japanese version. There is always a buyer, especially for Pokemon cards. You already cannot get those cards anywhere else in that COLLECTION BOX and if you could those cards in that Classic Collection set would still go up or hold their value, and when Pokemon does so happen do its reprints (which is still almost never) the cards are completely different. None of them are the same. Totally different card and a totally different item. It's not like Yugioh where they do a 1:1 reprint. I will eventually buy it and for the Japanese version I will just get the card packs themselves they are 50 to 100 dollars each it seems.
I like it, but the price is just ridiculous. I've been keeping an eye on it for months but the price is still sticking around $530, the cheapest I can find, it WAS $800 originally but even $530 is too much for me.
Did I say it’s reasonable? I definitely said it was premium. A lot of folks have expressed that they don’t like that it’s more expensive in English than it was in Japanese and that the quality is less, and I definitely agree that the price hike for a worse product is terrible! I’m going to be investigating the quality of the Japanese vs English product more for sure 😊 Thx for watching and for the comment!
A lot of folks have been saying that! And apparently the box, sleeves and other content is much higher quality AND the price is better at $250 USD 😤 I signed up for the raffle to buy the Japanese version but when I didn’t win I couldn’t justify buying a box on the secondary market, but now I wish I had 😭
@@sofypi7493 Most of the stores in Japan you have to be a member and on wait lists so foreigners can't come over and just buy up stuff to resell which allows their citizens to do all the reselling. Keeps the $ in the country.
You got blessed with the QC gods with that Chansey 1:37. 1:50 - 1:55 well said. Also, the Lugia card cools like a fun card to use plus he is resistant towards fighting types and I fucking hate fighting types.g
@@tcgbuyersclub Lol, yeah np. You got a good angle of the cards now that I think about it. Picking up another one doesn't seem like a bad move. You should totally use that Lugia in a deck since no one is gonna know what the fuck it does and it's a special energy card too, haha.
Ow but the vlaue is there, for those who think that that is important. Its simpel, you get 180 VERY nice cards. Sell em individually (IF you care about money) and you will get your money back and make profit even. The cards are beautiful, like you said. But: i agree with some. This is made to be played with, and that will not happen a lot. Maybe in Dubai :). Cant blame the comapny for trying tho. They will sell out eventually, no doubt. Personally i prefer the english version over the japanese one. The japanese cards are just a bit too much, imo. Great product!
While I love this product, the value just isn’t there. I will get one eventually but that’ll be when people are clearly tired of it sitting o their shelves and businesses needing room for inventory
Yeah, I’ll admit if I could do it again I would have waited to buy. I wanted this product so badly to play with friends and was worried it would sell out so I jumped on the pre-order at Pokémon Center. Now I feel like a fool for overpaying 😭 I’m sure there will be more deals to come on this! I’m seeing some much better prices already start showing up in different places 🤞
ditto, the value isn't there. I'm hoping to get enough for the japanese version because it looks so much better anyway. But y'know, we're also in a cost of living crisis - I think a lot of people have to be a lot more choosey about what they can buy at the moment which makes the value of this seem even more unreasonable for a lot of people who might have previously splurged on premium products. Curious to see what happens with these, I love the cards personally (japanese with the full holo around the border) so hopefully I can get my hands on them but I'm also realistic enough with my money situation to know I may have to give this one a skip.
This product didnt totally appear to be player based in mind given the price tag and well youd be 20 years out of date lol. Totally screams hardcore or wealthy fan. I really like this personally but of course it probably cost them $15 to create
It’s definitely not an accessible player product - I agree with that! The hardcore or wealthy player might make more sense and a couple folks have pointed out that if this was really for players they wouldn’t have jacked up the price even more over the Japanese pricing while reducing the quality of the product. I’m definitely going to be investigating more after learning a ton from the comments here!! Thx so much for watching and commenting 🙏
I have the orignal charizard blastiose and vensaur 2 of each Dont need to pay for this, im a real OG player and fan. not these fakes buying these classics ;)
I’m a fan of the reprints but I mainly like this box for its intended use: playing the game! The reprinted cards all play an interesting role within their decks. Thanks for watching 🙏
I made a follow-up video comparing the English vs Japanese versions of this product: the results might surprise you!
th-cam.com/video/yqmyHWmvL9k/w-d-xo.htmlsi=TEbN7KwJJ3d4fde8
Imho, the sad thing about the TCG Classic Collection is that, while the Box itself, the Damage Counters etc. are OBVIOUSLY targeted to players, I feel like the price is targeted to collectors only. It's just too expensive to just buy to use it for playing with friends etc. I'm currently trying to get a reasonably priced box just without the cards now instead.
This is a really good point! And the price has been jacked up even higher above the Japanese price for the English release 😅
Dude the only classic set worth getting is the japanese. Metal counters. Wood board and leather deck sleeves. Plus the cards look amazing. And what 250 msrp compared to the plastic counter part worth 400.. but yes tell me
Whooooa I honestly didn’t realize all the improvements for the Japanese version of the product, that’s WILD! And I’m usually pretty on top of the Japanese news 😅 Thanks for pointing this out!
@tcgbuyersclub yea not a fan of the English at all. Thought it was over priced and very cheesy. The japanese is the most beautiful product pokemon has released in a very very long time. Suck the English didn't follow
@Berriesncream1 Very fair and now I wish I sucked it up and paid for a Japanese box too 😭
@tcgbuyersclub yea I do alot of Japanese now adays. So that and the other ex game box that came out with squirtle bulba and charmander promos was another amazing product this year from Japan. English needs to step up
no the japanese one is the same.
The fact is for players over collectors, well that's exactly why I am thinking about getting it. The original cards were made for players, not collectors, and lolk at the market for them. These will fall into that same market eventually because the players who buy them will scuff all the cards.
Maybe! My guess is the majority of copies of these cards are not being playing with but I can assure you mine are 😂 Thanks for watching!!
The problem with your argument is that the set was literally designed to be played. Even the original reveal talked about it (I suppose even the ones who created the product are wrong about who they created the product for according to you though). It is supposed to be and designed to be a timeless set that you play with your kids and grandkids.
That is why it is more expensive and made with higher quality materials, it is meant to be a high end product built to be played for decades.
The price point is set to target whales. Aka now rich adult casual players that use to love Pokémon as a kid to give or play with there kids (aka exploiting nostalgia). They have so much money they do not care about the price or are so impulsive they do not know how to have self-control.
That is why the old starter cards are included and focused on, but many cards are not from the original sets. It is not designed to appeal to collectors wanting old cards, but decks that are balanced to be played against each other. The set does not even contain the original Mewtwo, but a version that is stronger for this purpose.
It is also why people are so annoyed with the price, because it is not designed for collectors. If it was, nobody would care about the price.
A set for collectors would just be a holo reprint of the old set (or portion of it), include posters, mats, figurines, etc. It would not be a set built and focused on being played.
You see, the Pokémon company is not that stupid. They are trying an experiment here, how much are people willing to buy for a premium set? If people say no, they will lower there prices. If yes, they will raise them.
The Japanese set (which is made with more premium materials overall) was retailed for under $250 USD, which is closer to what the price of the product actually is. But the Pokémon Company does not have that much respect for western audiences (never did), we always get the short end of the stick.
At 200-250, this set would be perfectly priced for what it is (which is why the Japanese set is in that price range), a high end play set aimed at people who use to play Pokémon that want a casual experience to appeal to there nostalgia and share it with there children.
It is also why the price of the product is below 400 now and ebay listings are losing money on selling it now. There is even a chance that it will not be worth anything at all in a decade, especially if economic times get hard or something like that.
There is nothing really collectorish about this set at all. The only reason it will have value as a collector item is because of the Pokémon branding and it's scarcity. Like how the Wii U is expensive because it was a financial failure while the Wii is cheap because it sold well.
In conclusion, people are not "wrong" about the set at all. The set is $199.99 to $249.99 (or else Japan's MSRP would not put it in that price range) and because it isn't, people feel it is overpriced because it is.
I appreciate the detailed response and I agree with everything you’ve said, except that I was seeing a lot of these being opened and the singles resold, which suggests to me that a lot of collectors were going after the cards.
I think your analysis is on point though and maybe I misread the market reaction to the product. I can tell you as someone who has played with it, the decks are a lot of fun 😊
I also plan to take a closer look at quality of the Japanese product too because it’s a tragedy if we paid more for worse quality 😩
Thanks again for watching!
Curious which site was used to find the price for the charizard UPC. Obviously the price is now irrelevant but doesn't look like anything I have used to find the best deals lol.
If you’re referring to the $95 price I shared in this video it was from Hill’s Wholesale Gaming at the time and I definitely should have included that information in the video 🙏
Editing to add that I’m not sponsored by them and have never ordered from them.
If I get it I am playing with it. Not only that, but people already go out of their way to buy the black star promo cards which have almost zero to no difference from the regular rare same for the uncommons. If it was up to Pokemon they would never do reprints, but it's what the fans want, so that is what they do. Buy it because you want it. Oh, yeah the card sellers even if they wanted to aren't buying up the English versions just to sell the cards themselves it's not financially possible, and even if they could they wouldn't buy them up as the item is jeopardized. The only places buying them other than stores are card or hobby stores and they aren't opening them up just to sell the cards individually. Another thing to note is that those cards don't have the 25-year anniversary stamp on them and while the English ones aren't the most desired right now is still have their own special rarity also WITHOUT the stamp and in ENGLISH still.
Just picked this up for $180 - I would be so pissed if I bought this at $400 a year ago
That’s me 😭 I’m glad you got it for a great price! It really is a special product but goodness the retail price was atrocious 😭 Thanks for watching!!
180 where lol I just bought it on samsclub for 200
151 premiums are sitting in shelves in my town, nature is healing
It’s true! It’s honestly so nice to not be constantly fighting FOMO and scrambling to catch product in stock just to participate in the hobby 😅
I want it. I'd buy it. If I didn't get laid off then I would have it... It certainly has its flaws it's not perfect, but it's not bad. If someone wants it bad enough they will buy it. Too expensive = I don't want it and will spend the 400 dollars on something else that costs the same. It doesn't matter what what you splice it... At the end of the day, it's Pokemon and the cards will always and forever hold their value and Pokemon will always and forever be a thing. Today it's worth 10 dollars and in 5 to 10 years will be worth 1,000 dollars.
If the English version is already jeopardized then the item itself is gonna either hold its value or go up in value, especially since everyone who does want this product is getting the Japanese version. There is always a buyer, especially for Pokemon cards. You already cannot get those cards anywhere else in that COLLECTION BOX and if you could those cards in that Classic Collection set would still go up or hold their value, and when Pokemon does so happen do its reprints (which is still almost never) the cards are completely different. None of them are the same. Totally different card and a totally different item. It's not like Yugioh where they do a 1:1 reprint. I will eventually buy it and for the Japanese version I will just get the card packs themselves they are 50 to 100 dollars each it seems.
I like it, but the price is just ridiculous. I've been keeping an eye on it for months but the price is still sticking around $530, the cheapest I can find, it WAS $800 originally but even $530 is too much for me.
The price is ridiculous, you’re not wrong 🥲 Thanks for watching!!
Best Buy has it right now for $299 bro!
That’s still so expensive! (But I still like the product and am glad I own it 😊)
@@tcgbuyersclub I agree. I almost pulled the trigger but I need a new engine. Priorities! 😂
@@MagicalFishy I respect anyone who can make sure to prioritize other expenses over their Pokémon purchases 💪
Just got it delivered by Sam’s club for $200
That’s perfect 😊
how can you call this price reasonable
Did I say it’s reasonable? I definitely said it was premium. A lot of folks have expressed that they don’t like that it’s more expensive in English than it was in Japanese and that the quality is less, and I definitely agree that the price hike for a worse product is terrible!
I’m going to be investigating the quality of the Japanese vs English product more for sure 😊
Thx for watching and for the comment!
@@tcgbuyersclub thought you said people can find it at a reasonable price at retail
The Japanese box is the better buy, imo. I saw the cards that come in the English box and was immediately turned off.
A lot of folks have been saying that! And apparently the box, sleeves and other content is much higher quality AND the price is better at $250 USD 😤
I signed up for the raffle to buy the Japanese version but when I didn’t win I couldn’t justify buying a box on the secondary market, but now I wish I had 😭
lets be honest here... Japanese companies hate resellers and people making money off their IP.
In jo they have store dedicated to reselling so no they knew for a loooooong time
@@sofypi7493 Most of the stores in Japan you have to be a member and on wait lists so foreigners can't come over and just buy up stuff to resell which allows their citizens to do all the reselling. Keeps the $ in the country.
Yeah my understanding is they’re really harsh about that. Japan serves Japan first 🤷
You got blessed with the QC gods with that Chansey 1:37. 1:50 - 1:55 well said. Also, the Lugia card cools like a fun card to use plus he is resistant towards fighting types and I fucking hate fighting types.g
Ahaha, maybe I should buy another copy of that Chansey and stop playing with it 👀 Thanks for watching!! 💪
@@tcgbuyersclub Lol, yeah np. You got a good angle of the cards now that I think about it. Picking up another one doesn't seem like a bad move. You should totally use that Lugia in a deck since no one is gonna know what the fuck it does and it's a special energy card too, haha.
The price is absolutely ridiculous no matter how you spin it 😂
Yeah it is 😅 It’s very fun to play though!!
buying some for xmas to play with my brothers.
english to play and japanese box for grading or keep sealed lol.
That’s great 😃 It’s so fun to play with 🙌
You've seen the Japanese one?
Not yet but I plan to take a look at it soon 😊
Ow but the vlaue is there, for those who think that that is important. Its simpel, you get 180 VERY nice cards. Sell em individually (IF you care about money) and you will get your money back and make profit even. The cards are beautiful, like you said. But: i agree with some. This is made to be played with, and that will not happen a lot. Maybe in Dubai :). Cant blame the comapny for trying tho. They will sell out eventually, no doubt. Personally i prefer the english version over the japanese one. The japanese cards are just a bit too much, imo. Great product!
Yeah it’ll be interesting to see what happens with this product over time. Thanks for watching and for the comment!
While I love this product, the value just isn’t there. I will get one eventually but that’ll be when people are clearly tired of it sitting o their shelves and businesses needing room for inventory
Yeah, I’ll admit if I could do it again I would have waited to buy. I wanted this product so badly to play with friends and was worried it would sell out so I jumped on the pre-order at Pokémon Center. Now I feel like a fool for overpaying 😭
I’m sure there will be more deals to come on this! I’m seeing some much better prices already start showing up in different places 🤞
@@tcgbuyersclub no way bro, don’t feel like a fool, you clearly love it as a player and probably a collector too. That’s money well spent.
This seriously makes me feel better, thank you 🙏
@@tcgbuyersclub I honestly hope it did, monetary value and sentimental value both have their place in our world
ditto, the value isn't there. I'm hoping to get enough for the japanese version because it looks so much better anyway. But y'know, we're also in a cost of living crisis - I think a lot of people have to be a lot more choosey about what they can buy at the moment which makes the value of this seem even more unreasonable for a lot of people who might have previously splurged on premium products. Curious to see what happens with these, I love the cards personally (japanese with the full holo around the border) so hopefully I can get my hands on them but I'm also realistic enough with my money situation to know I may have to give this one a skip.
Great video ❤
Thanks so much for watching 🙏
I just can’t bring myself to buy this after seen the Japanese version.
I’m planning to take a closer look at the Japanese version soon! For what it’s worth, I can confirm that playing the decks is fun 😊
Thanks for the info. I was wondering what the deal was with this thing. Im not a player, so Im out.
I’m glad it was helpful! It’s an odd product for sure but I love it 😍
@@tcgbuyersclub You should get hooked up with the boys over at Critical Hit Podcast. I think you’d make a great addition. IMO.
Ps, I put a good word in for you to Roc and Metri.
@coreymccarthy6130 that’s very kind, thank you for the support 🙏
i love the japanese classic collection.
The cards are beautiful 😍 I still need to take a look at the board and other included pieces but I will absolutely get there!!
This product didnt totally appear to be player based in mind given the price tag and well youd be 20 years out of date lol. Totally screams hardcore or wealthy fan.
I really like this personally but of course it probably cost them $15 to create
It’s definitely not an accessible player product - I agree with that! The hardcore or wealthy player might make more sense and a couple folks have pointed out that if this was really for players they wouldn’t have jacked up the price even more over the Japanese pricing while reducing the quality of the product.
I’m definitely going to be investigating more after learning a ton from the comments here!!
Thx so much for watching and commenting 🙏
im buy 2 xd
Go for it my friend, they are cool 😊
I have the orignal charizard blastiose and vensaur 2 of each Dont need to pay for this, im a real OG player and fan. not these fakes buying these classics ;)
I’m a fan of the reprints but I mainly like this box for its intended use: playing the game! The reprinted cards all play an interesting role within their decks. Thanks for watching 🙏
I ordered one. I don’t care about the price, $400.00 is peanuts now anyways
I ordered one too and am very happy about it, but I understand why others are upset about it. Congrats on your purchase and I hope you enjoy it 😊
“$400 is peanuts”.. tell me you’re privileged without telling me you’re privileged.
@@depressedkermit5337 work hard, you’ll get there