Enoch Powell was 100% correct.Look at the unhappy state of this country thanks to mass immigration. It's killing our culture,and trying to pretend this country has always been "multicultural"which is utter rubbish.We aren't the USA.
@@ralphphillips3983 Hi Ralph - well it was the Remain/Left e.g. Labour Party that was found guilty of institutional Anti-Semitism (and therefor institutionally racist) and since October 7 some of what we've seen from the Left on this front has been truly shocking. Hence Will Self is 100% wrong.
The fact that she was surprised that Stoke is a very different place to London tells me that she, in fact, knew nothing about the rest of the country even as she berated Will Self for being a member of the metropolitan elite.
@nigelmorris3014 you’re right about his comments ageing well - The problem is it is still happening and the country is being further damaged by the same people. Same in the US.
He was spot on about the rise of extremism, particularly the alt right. I'd never heard of him until this video (I'm an Aussie) but I'll be watching a few more of talks.
Yes unfortunately it takes an education to understand what's going on and a lot of populist simply don't understand what's going on on the planet. So it's very easy to get them to vote for brexit or ttpip or whatever you want by pretending to understand them. Like forage who pretends to be working class... targets a scapegoat enemy and the populist has no idea how he's being moved as a pawn. Because he has not been to university he hasn't read history he isn't educated.
@logicus_mentis I mean everyone with a history education knows this is predictable. And some educated people have banked on the ignorance of the populist to mobilize all of this. To what end? Probably " clamping down on right wing extremism" which does exist. But also existing are the genuine peasantry who have genuine reasons to be rioting and resisting all of the elite educated arseholes who are fugging them in the ass. And the wonderful thing is now educated peopke will see all populist as racist all criticism of the eu as silly...the eu forced countries to bail out bankers. The eu forced ttpip through secretly... the eu works for the oligarchs but so do all the brexiteers and so do all the pawns in this little rioting populism albeit unbeknownst to themslves.
What did the EU have to do with people being poor in Sheffield?!?!? The EU was not our Government. The tories were. Dreda Mitchell has a big mouth but her 'logic' is utter nonsense.
Structural Funds allocations to Local Enterprise Partnership area 2014 to 2020. €m Black Country 176.6 Buckinghamshire Thames Valley 13.8 Cheshire and Warrington 141.6 Coast to Capital 67 Cornwall and the Isles of Scilly 590.4 Coventry and Warwickshire 135.5 Cumbria 91 Derby, Derbyshire, Nottingham and Nottinghamshire 244 Dorset 47.1 Enterprise M3 45.5 Gloucestershire 38.1 Greater Birmingham and Solihull 254.8 Greater Cambridge & Greater Peterborough 75.2 Greater Lincolnshire 133 Greater Manchester 413.8 Heart of the South West 117.8 Hertfordshire 69.2 Humber 102 Lancashire 265.2 Leeds City Region 389.5 Leicester and Leicestershire 125.7 Liverpool City Region 220.9 London 745.4 New Anglia 94.1 North Eastern 537.4 Northamptonshire 54.8 Oxfordshire 19.3 Sheffield City Region 207.2 Solent 42.9 South East 185.1 South East Midlands 87.9 Stoke-on-Trent and Staffordshire 160.9 Swindon and Wiltshire 43.4 Tees Valley 201.7 Thames Valley Berkshire 28.5 The Marches 113.3 West of England 68.3 Worcestershire 67.8 York and North Yorkshire 97.1 Source: University of Sheffield.
When Michael Gove said we had 'had enough of experts' it raised a red flag for me and so I stopped listening to politicians on either side and listened to experts instead, 99% of which said that Brexit was a bad idea.
When you want to feel you are the most intelligent person in the room, of course Gove is going to say this. I was lambasted recently for not quoting the full comment he made, however the full comment has the same effect.
It is people like will self and alistair Campbell who support mass immigration and hold conservative patriotic types in contempt who have created the conditions for social collapse
And a lesson to learn for some Brexiteers, especially in England, before asking us in the EU for concessions or to again join the Sweet Mighty EU: To get a friend - You first have to be a friend!
And when it comes to the question from Liz. "Will history show he was right?" - It already has, he was 100% correct then, just as he is now. Brexit is a complete failure in all aspects.
Of course he was right, the racists did vote leave. If these individuals bothered to vote, they would be the leavers. We do reap what we sow. We’ve left the E.U, but the racists among us have just been emboldened in looking for another fight. The thugs, the sociopaths, all there in plain sight, in our post Brexit Land.
@@keithhutchins8966 no, it was nonsense and impossible, unless you do really want no NHS, or pension, that is after all what Mogg wanted on that bonfire first.
Dreda Mitchell is talking all the time about democracy, but she has no knowledge about how to debate. Not letting someone finish his sentence, is not the democratic way of debate, it is the monologue style of the populists.
Looking at how Mark Pudding Francois tries to stare down Will Self tells you all you need to know about people like him, Farage, Gove, Jenkyns, Widdecome etc. And here we are.
If only it was that shallow. Farage, Trump, Brexit: Putin... it's all one giant co-ordinated effort in which they are willing idiots... well documented/investigated by Carole Cadwalladr - who they've desperately tried to silence (and succeeded in some respects).
Will Self is the sage of our time. 'Grubby opportunists' the best two words ever to describe a movement that will lead the whole country to the knackers yard.
Yes, at that time he looked rather lonely in his opinion but now we know that all the shit we are experiencing is of our own making and the EU nothing to do with it.
She's not very bright, but just bright enough to understand that if you make it all about yourself and shout over other people then that drowns out any opportunity for coherent, rational analysis.
I voted to leave the EU because I was never given my democratic right to join in the first place. What focused by vote was FCO 30/1048 and the nineteen forty Farben Patent.
@@nizvizExplain please? You didn't get a chance to vote? Why too young? And please explain the Farben aspect! Unless you explain yourself clearly, you expose yourself to use being pathetic! 😂
Your first part is complete bollox, or are all remainers Tory suck ups? As for your second part, it's not like remainers had any clue either. Let's not forget that it was the leader of the remain side who started and caused the whole thing, while having no plan in place. Then he quit one day after not getting his way, despite promising he wouldn't. That was the remain leader, he was the one who opened the door for May, Johnson and Truss to continue effing things up.
Absolutely. All the brexiteers I spoke to were basically Little Englanders who had faith in the fact that since, in their perspective, Britain is better than everywhere else - simply being 'unrestrained Britain', even in an unsympathetic world, was the path to glory and Empire again. Not one of them had a objective argument, they were all subjective and emotional. When pressed for any detail they would jump to their next dog-whistle sound-bite.
@@jeangenie5807 the two documents referenced are publically available and directly influenced my vote. How they are interpreted is an individual choice. People who are genuinely interested will willingly read them, others for whatever reason are quite happy with following the constant fear narrative. Some forget we had a global empire which we managed quite successfully. You don't need me to spell them out, just read them and interpret how the EU was conceived and why?
4:04. Social inequality in Britain pre-dates the EU and it was ridiculous to cite poverty as a reason to leave. In fact, it was the EU that invested in disadvantaged areas from the Highlands to northern England and the Midlands, to south Wales, places the Tories will never help because there are no votes in it for them. Deprivation in the UK is a home-grown phenomenon, huge wealth all in the hands of a small percentage who are connected throughout their lives from birth to school, the City, clubs and institutions and who use their influence to keep it that way.
Some people should be reminded that it wasnt just London that voted to remain. Most of the big cities voted remain. Im from Liverpool so I must be part of the metropolitan elite.😂
yeah - as a Londoner I remember looking at the map and thinking we ought to declare UDI - we not only had the Thames access, but there was an odd corridor of 'remain' towns that linked us to the south coast around Brighton to build a new deep-water port. With the other cities you mention, it was a bit scattered, but represented a large part of the international income-earning part of the country. Sadly it didn't include North Sea gas, our only natural resource!
Nobody who voted is at fault for any of this, whichever way they voted. Only one person is to blame and he was not only the leader of the remain party but of the country too. I bet he was laughing, he certainly whistled happily.
@@Elwaves2925Brexiteers are partly responsible. The racist fringe in this country has been increasingly enabled and assertive since the vote, populism has taken hold, rather than the referendum marginalising the swivel eyed Tory loons it has purged the Tory party of the centrist sane Tory and put the swivel eyed incompetences in charge. And the worsening economic situation, largely due to Brexit and Tory incompetence provides a fertile ground for the far right to plant their destructive seeds of racism/nationalism.
@@KevinSheedy10 I see what you're saying and agree with most of your points. However, it's still not leave voters who are even partly responsible as that paints all leavers as the same. As you point out, it's the racists and nationlists and while they likely voted leave, they do not equal all Brexiteers. I hope you'd agree with that. Even so, if leavers are partly responsible, then so are remainers. There's a whole load of them parroting the same crap that all leavers are racist, or only voted for nationalist reasons which is complete rubbish. I can see why people would react to that high and mighty attitude of stirring things up. If one side is partly responsible, the other side is equally responsible too. Ultimately though it still comes down to that one man. Neither leavers or remainers put the opportunity to vote for Brexit in place. One man and one party did that and they didn't have to. It was only given to us because cowardly Cameron was scared of a loudmouth like Farage. All done without any plan and even as the remain leader, he should have had a plan in place because he was PM. Let's never forget that this same coward promised to see it through, whatever the result, then he ran off day one, leaving the door open for all the incompetent, corrupt Tories to follow. It is 100% his and the Tories fault, both directly and indirectly. 🙂
Where we're now is a direct consequence of Brexit, the failure to realise the control of the borders which was a lie and an integral part of the Brexit manifesto is being manipulated by extreme factions to go more extreme and end up with a civil conflict. There are enough ingredients (anger, actors, stokers, lack of law enforcers) to turn this into a very nasty episode at the very least.
Hooray for Will Self. I proudly thanked him in person when I bumped into him in a tube station one day a couple of years ago. He modestly accepted. I said it then, and I repeat now, "thanks for what you do, keep going"
I found this difficult to watch. It brings back so many bad memories. I was just coming out of depression in 2016 and found the referendum too much. I remember being sick to the stomach at the sight of Nigel Farage crowing like a little bantum cock on a dung heap when the results came through. I'm going to have to go cleanse my mind now. 😔
I remember that night. I had a couple of free days and watched the election when I still had a telly. Jonathan Dimbleby was in shock at the results and could hardly believe what millions of us already knew. I live in Starmer's constituency and know these elite phonies. So much for Cameron's and Dimbleby's judgement.
Even John Snow parrots the “elite” line. Will Self couldn’t get a word in. Dreda speaks with the naive passion and emotion and lack of factual knowledge about the role of the EU that many people at the time felt. I would love to hear what she has to say today and whether she blames herself or the Brexiteers for committing the biggest act of economic self harm any country has inflicted on itself. Sad thing is I know people who are still lying to themselves about Brexit benefits rather than admit they made a massive mistake.
Wouldn’t it be good if British racists just said out loud. “I’m a racist and I voted for Brexit”. Instead they say I’m not racist and I voted for brexit to save Britain. Look around Brexiteers and see the Britain you saved. Also, let’s not forget Cameron and Johnson. Where are they now? The week after Brexit Covid hit the Uk and instead of EU help they had to survive with NHS grit, staffed by many people whom racists would probably want out of Britain.
Your beloved v*s were first given in Britain after the EU could not arrange them. In the end, of course, EU got that wrong, too. And the v protected nobody. Wake up and smell the coffee; we were Airstrip One of the EU Nation.
The brexiteers he engages with are often too simple to understand what he saying. ‘You should apologise’, ‘I’m not racist’….baffaling inability to listen.
The only working class and middle class people in the UK that voted to leave the European Union and continue to be happy with their decision are those who still have no idea what harm has been done to their own pockets. I think it was the Bank of England which said that the average family in the UK has seen a £2000 a year year - for - year deficit in their incomes ( 2 grand a year worse off ). When this was put to St Nigel his response was to laugh it off and quip something of the order of, " oh, let`s make it £20,000...." That, to me, is a scum in posh outfits. Many people in this country are unable to think critically. So they find someone to think for them ( or against them ) and trot behind them as sheep do.
Various predictions were made of Brexit. One from the Bank of England was that we would be worse off by a certain amount. The Bank will hardly admit to an error now, will it? And what does £2000 mean after Brexit enactment than before? Voted for it in 2016, got it in 2020 (itself an outrage against democracy). So £2000 at 2016 prices against £2500 at 2020 prices. Inflation was rampant after the Bank printed funny money to pay for lockdowns, furloughs etc. Someone made a fortune.
What a mess, and in 2024 we have a Labour government sort of £20b, and the OBR and Goldman Sachs saying we have lost £100b, but why won't Labour point this out... We are skint... and we are skint because of Brexit.
!4 years of Tory Austerity. It was austerity that set the conditions for BRexit. Many wanted change ANY change and plenty votes, as Snow said, as a protest.
@@lizwebstersbf Hi Liz - yes brilliant let's just hope a Brexiteer doesn't point out that the Labour Party was found guilty of systemic Anti-Semitism and their supporters attacked a Synagogue during the 'peace' marches.
"The EU paid for a by-pass, youth centres, rebuilt the town centre, financed business centres, paid to refurbish schools, they even paid for a statue for the town! Why are you angry?" "SEE, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, WASTING OUR MONEY ON STUPID STATUES." This really happened.
Als Nettozahler in der EU hat nicht die EU das alles bezahlt. Das alles wurde von britischem Geld (EU Mitgliedsbeitrag) bezahlt, das von der EU wieder an das UK zurückverteilt wurde. Dazu hat das UK 10-18 Milliarden Euro an Ungarn, Polen und alle armen Mitgliedsstaaten gegeben. Dafür hat das UK bekommen: Vergünstigungen im Waren- und Finanzdienstleistungs- Import und Export im Wert von 100 Milliarden Euro. Nach dem Brexit 2021 verliert das UK wegen Brexit ein Vielfaches des Mitgliedsbeitrages.
Because the Libertarian Far Right has no real interest in funding projects which benefit us little people. They want the freedom to suck the life blood out of our country.
Lionel Shriver - a Brexit-supporting American that now lives in...the EU. The banged the drum to get away from that horrible EU and eventually moved there herself. Dear Leavers - that's the people you put your trust in 😀
more didnt vote for it than did vote for it, the majority was way too small to act on when so many didnt vote at all and with russian bot and misinformation favouring one side. But the evil tories acted on it
I remember waking up after the referendum utterly shocked we had voted to leave. My personal fear was that we had allowed the conservatives to run us as they saw fit without the checks of the EU. The lies, the deceit, the backtracking. If I may misquote a platitude 'divided we stand, united we fall.' we all end up as handful of dust. Also have you seen the cartoon of the cookies on a plate...?
@@TheJohnsonseviltwin I know plenty of people that are better off out of the EU because the country isn't being flooded by cheap labour. The salary for my job went up between £12,000 and £15,000 ,a year on average. People who voted to remain did so because they would be financially better off .........you don't vote to make yourself poorer.....
@johnrice4191 instead of cheap EU labour you've got cheap Asian and African labour at a higher rate than at any point compared to EU workers. Also, inflation was at 7.5% and an average of 4.9% the last 6 years sp your mates wages are lower inflation adjusted. But of course don't expect you to understand any of that as clearly, you are dim.
Listening to Dreda Mitchell makes me want to pull my hair out. She represents everything that was stupid about Brexit. All those tired and flawed arguments. I used to find Will Self annoying but he was absolutely on the money here.
Will Self right about everything there, except, rather embarrassingly for a writer, he attributes a very famous quote by W B Yeats to W H Auden. Probably a slip of the brain because of the initials being similar. And not really important. It's a great quote. "The best lack all conviction, while the worst are full of passionate intensity" is from "The Second Coming" - Yeats' fearful vision of the apocalypse.The poem ends: "And what rough beast, his hour come round at last, Slouches towards Bethlehem to be born". Trump and Johnson both are rough beasts. Both slouch.
Intelligence over celebrity , he is right and still is, what a shame no one took time to hear this man . Just because im black im not racist, the answer to this is yes you can !.
Aw man I knew I shouldn’t have voted leave in my schools version of the Brexit referendum, now I’m stuck being a bigot forever I just thought Article 13 was a silly idea the EU were proposing, I never knew it meant I hate everyone who isn’t a white British male And it’s not like a bunch of terror attacks scared some people into voting the way they did or anything
She's saying she didn't know where the NYT got the idea of the Leave campaign was based on nostalgia, they wanted to bring back the empire. Where does she live? It's always been about that... Meanwhile, in the background all you can see is UKIP banners and the noise? Isn't that an air raid siren?
Will Self at 11:00 ‘I think there’s a perfectly good case for leaving the European Union but the problem is… it’s a vector that carries with it ethnic nationalism... If you go to the heartland and you talk to people… the ethnic nationalism comes up right away, immediately, so it’s there.’ Can’t say he didn’t warn us.
"Grubby little opportunists" spot on Will
Perhaps the defunct EDL has been replaced by the GLO
Same with these rioters.
'Grubby little Grifters' sounds better, would make a great teeshirt, then on the back, the names of Farage, Trump etc
@@JohnnyMotel99 This is a political debate, not a witch hunt. Calm down fella!
Enoch Powell was 100% correct.Look at the unhappy state of this country thanks to mass immigration.
It's killing our culture,and trying to pretend this country has always been "multicultural"which is utter rubbish.We aren't the USA.
I can watch Will Self staring down Mark Francois forever.
Yes but he made a claim about Anti-Semitism which didn't pan out did it?
@@stewie7338it did pan out because the great replacement theory is still out there.
@@ralphphillips3983 Hi Ralph - well it was the Remain/Left e.g. Labour Party that was found guilty of institutional Anti-Semitism (and therefor institutionally racist) and since October 7 some of what we've seen from the Left on this front has been truly shocking. Hence Will Self is 100% wrong.
@@ralphphillips3983Anyone with a brain cell knows that "great replacement theory" is complete bs.
Alternative facts stewie trolling its lies again, as always acting like a stroppy 7 year old
Mark François, One of the "Shining Lights" of the Tory Party !
Opps, sorry, predictive text, I meant "Lying Shites"
and sadly re-elected in 2024.😒
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Frank Mansior 😂
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Will Self is clearly a very inciteful, educated and literate person who speaks the truth and doesn't pull his punches
Inciteful? You mean insightful? 🤔 Admittedly, his death stare is pretty inciteful... 😄
@@tommymurphy459 😂 💀
Hahah I suppose that was an intentional pun
Why because you agree with him 😂.
Will selfish or selfish Will.
The stare of Will Self is absolutely withering! He's awesome.
Will Self has probably been in much more hairier situations than Mark Francois
Penfold shat himself
He can probably punch like starmer lol. All show and no go. 😂😂
He was spot on i am afraid. A nation on the decline and at war with itself.
A war driven by the grifters and chancers.
A decline that started more than 100 years ago with The Great War.
It is a world wide phenomenon, but it is heartening that the French pulled back at the last moment. Let us hope the US will do likewise.
I'm afraid? Don't apologise, just say it straight
@@roqsteady5290why is it worldwide, in all democratic nations? Because it’s a disinformation war, carried out by our enemies.
I’m from Stoke originally - I’m an ardent remainer. Dreda is talking shite!! Will Self’s words have aged rather well.
'From'. Those who remain are ardent Reformers pretty much.
The fact that she was surprised that Stoke is a very different place to London tells me that she, in fact, knew nothing about the rest of the country even as she berated Will Self for being a member of the metropolitan elite.
Lots of northern cities were remain voting.
@nigelmorris3014 you’re right about his comments ageing well - The problem is it is still happening and the country is being further damaged by the same people. Same in the US.
@@antog42 The media and social media are a huge part of the problem.
“Was Will Self right about Farage, Trump & Brexit?”
YES.
Stick Putin in there too he was a ardent brexiteer
No.
He was spot on about the rise of extremism, particularly the alt right.
I'd never heard of him until this video (I'm an Aussie) but I'll be watching a few more of talks.
Yes unfortunately it takes an education to understand what's going on and a lot of populist simply don't understand what's going on on the planet. So it's very easy to get them to vote for brexit or ttpip or whatever you want by pretending to understand them. Like forage who pretends to be working class... targets a scapegoat enemy and the populist has no idea how he's being moved as a pawn. Because he has not been to university he hasn't read history he isn't educated.
@logicus_mentis I mean everyone with a history education knows this is predictable. And some educated people have banked on the ignorance of the populist to mobilize all of this. To what end? Probably " clamping down on right wing extremism" which does exist. But also existing are the genuine peasantry who have genuine reasons to be rioting and resisting all of the elite educated arseholes who are fugging them in the ass. And the wonderful thing is now educated peopke will see all populist as racist all criticism of the eu as silly...the eu forced countries to bail out bankers. The eu forced ttpip through secretly... the eu works for the oligarchs but so do all the brexiteers and so do all the pawns in this little rioting populism albeit unbeknownst to themslves.
Strange that Will Self never seems to appear on discussion programmes any more. Farage and everyone else never off.
Yes truth is the enemy of main stream media.
What did the EU have to do with people being poor in Sheffield?!?!?
The EU was not our Government. The tories were.
Dreda Mitchell has a big mouth but her 'logic' is utter nonsense.
Agreed.
All the thickos came out for the referendum, people who hadn’t politically engaged before swallowing Leave lies hook line and sinker.
Poland is in EU and they doing fine :S
The eu caused poverty in the uk???
What a load o shit,
Structural Funds allocations to Local Enterprise Partnership area 2014
to 2020.
€m
Black Country 176.6
Buckinghamshire Thames Valley 13.8
Cheshire and Warrington 141.6
Coast to Capital 67
Cornwall and the Isles of Scilly 590.4
Coventry and Warwickshire 135.5
Cumbria 91
Derby, Derbyshire, Nottingham and
Nottinghamshire 244
Dorset 47.1
Enterprise M3 45.5
Gloucestershire 38.1
Greater Birmingham and Solihull 254.8
Greater Cambridge & Greater Peterborough 75.2
Greater Lincolnshire 133
Greater Manchester 413.8
Heart of the South West 117.8
Hertfordshire 69.2
Humber 102
Lancashire 265.2
Leeds City Region 389.5
Leicester and Leicestershire 125.7
Liverpool City Region 220.9
London 745.4
New Anglia 94.1
North Eastern 537.4
Northamptonshire 54.8
Oxfordshire 19.3
Sheffield City Region 207.2
Solent 42.9
South East 185.1
South East Midlands 87.9
Stoke-on-Trent and Staffordshire 160.9
Swindon and Wiltshire 43.4
Tees Valley 201.7
Thames Valley Berkshire 28.5
The Marches 113.3
West of England 68.3
Worcestershire 67.8
York and North Yorkshire 97.1
Source: University of Sheffield.
When Michael Gove said we had 'had enough of experts' it raised a red flag for me and so I stopped listening to politicians on either side and listened to experts instead, 99% of which said that Brexit was a bad idea.
It was a missunderstanding , he said we had 'had enough of exports'
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When you want to feel you are the most intelligent person in the room, of course Gove is going to say this.
I was lambasted recently for not quoting the full comment he made, however the full comment has the same effect.
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This woman has it spot on, just look at what is happening in Hull and Stoke today.
he meant; we have enough of facts!; Torries like Fact-free politics; so much easier
First guy trying to argue with Will Self was so far out of his depth it was embarrassing
Francois is a thug like many of the brexiteers
I've never seen a country fall apart before. It's mind-boggling. Intelligent people like Will Self simply weren't listened to.
So intelligent he was a heroin addict, yeah, I’ll be sure to listen to his words of wisdom. Have a day off you absolute plum
He was listened to and found to be unintelligent.
Intelligent............😅
It is people like will self and alistair Campbell who support mass immigration and hold conservative patriotic types in contempt who have created the conditions for social collapse
@@johnrice4191emoji user talking about intelligence, the irony
Brexiteers crapped in their beds, and instead of changing their sheets they now roll around in it.
How smart is that?
And a lesson to learn for some Brexiteers, especially in England, before asking us in the EU for concessions or to again join the Sweet Mighty EU: To get a friend - You first have to be a friend!
And when it comes to the question from Liz. "Will history show he was right?"
- It already has, he was 100% correct then, just as he is now. Brexit is a complete failure in all aspects.
Brilliant analogy!
Trouble is we're sharing the bed with them...
Of course he was right, the racists did vote leave. If these individuals bothered to vote, they would be the leavers. We do reap what we sow. We’ve left the E.U, but the racists among us have just been emboldened in looking for another fight. The thugs, the sociopaths, all there in plain sight, in our post Brexit Land.
Will Self hits the nail on the head every time. He is a National Treasure.
Brexiteers forgot that Britain actually did have a vote in every EU law passed. We used to be rule makers, by leaving we're now rule takers.
I seem to remember that we were to have a bonfire of regulations, I don't seem to remember it happening. Was it just a damp squib and I missed it?
@@keithhutchins8966 no, it was nonsense and impossible, unless you do really want no NHS, or pension, that is after all what Mogg wanted on that bonfire first.
@@keithhutchins8966 if we want to trade with Europe we still have to follow the rules, but now we don’t have a say in those rules…
@@kentonian Agreed. They are not necessarily OUR rules. If the EU don't want to trade with the UK because of their rules, then that is their decision.
@@keithhutchins8966 Yeah, let them keep their food that’s safe to eat. Meanwhile we can get poorer, too? Stuff that. Rejoin.
Dreda Mitchell is talking all the time about democracy, but she has no knowledge about how to debate. Not letting someone finish his sentence, is not the democratic way of debate, it is the monologue style of the populists.
Will Self is brilliant its probably why he's never on TV.
"Grubby little opportunists". That's too polite.
it hit a chord with the audience and that is heartening
Looking at how Mark Pudding Francois tries to stare down Will Self tells you all you need to know about people like him, Farage, Gove, Jenkyns, Widdecome etc. And here we are.
Captain Mainwaring without the comedy timing 😅
And Will self was absolutely not bothered by it 👍
what did Mark he say to him, when doing the hard man look thing? I think I heard it.
@@static-audioAre you kidding? Who started it? With a hooter like his, do you think that Self has been in a single fight in his life?
Excellent euphemism for slightly rotund
Trump and Farage birds of a feather ! Able to appeal to the lowest of the low. In Trumps own words "I love the poorly educated"
Vultures of a feather more like . I agree though.
If only it was that shallow. Farage, Trump, Brexit: Putin... it's all one giant co-ordinated effort in which they are willing idiots... well documented/investigated by Carole Cadwalladr - who they've desperately tried to silence (and succeeded in some respects).
Can we get an interview with her now ?! I’d be interested to hear how it’s helped all these working people ?!
Will Self was 100% correct.
Will Self is the sage of our time. 'Grubby opportunists' the best two words ever to describe a movement that will lead the whole country to the knackers yard.
Fissiparous -
inclined to cause or undergo division into separate parts or groups.
"the fissiparous tendencies innate in tribalism"
Not everybody that voted for Brexit was racist- but every racist definitely voted for Brexit.
Simply untrue...plenty of racists were in the "Remain" camp..
@@theghostofcar4621 Can you give some examples?
@@gabrielkemlo64 The Remainers who called Brexit voters racists.
@@gabrielkemlo64 anybody who is pro mass immigration is anti english/white.
A large percentage of blacks and Asians voted for it.
Wow...! Will Self got it right!
He gets a lot right
Yes, at that time he looked rather lonely in his opinion but now we know that all the shit we are experiencing is of our own making and the EU nothing to do with it.
Why the surprise.
Dreda Mitchell really has no thought process. She is all "passion" and emotion and bugger all rationality.
You have to wonder what's in it for people like Dreda Mitchell who pander to people wouldn't urinate on her if they discovered her on fire?
Dreda Mitchell needs to stop talking over anything she doesn't like or doesn't understand and try listening to what's being said by others.
She's not very bright, but just bright enough to understand that if you make it all about yourself and shout over other people then that drowns out any opportunity for coherent, rational analysis.
Talking? Shouting like a fish wife.
Its what they did and still do - discussing to them is cutting off and talk over to obsecure a counter point of view.
Brexit supporters voted for nationalistic reasons. The vast majority hadn't a clue what the issues were.
I voted to leave the EU because I was never given my democratic right to join in the first place. What focused by vote was FCO 30/1048 and the nineteen forty Farben Patent.
@@nizvizExplain please? You didn't get a chance to vote? Why too young? And please explain the Farben aspect! Unless you explain yourself clearly, you expose yourself to use being pathetic! 😂
Your first part is complete bollox, or are all remainers Tory suck ups? As for your second part, it's not like remainers had any clue either. Let's not forget that it was the leader of the remain side who started and caused the whole thing, while having no plan in place. Then he quit one day after not getting his way, despite promising he wouldn't. That was the remain leader, he was the one who opened the door for May, Johnson and Truss to continue effing things up.
Absolutely. All the brexiteers I spoke to were basically Little Englanders who had faith in the fact that since, in their perspective, Britain is better than everywhere else - simply being 'unrestrained Britain', even in an unsympathetic world, was the path to glory and Empire again. Not one of them had a objective argument, they were all subjective and emotional. When pressed for any detail they would jump to their next dog-whistle sound-bite.
@@jeangenie5807 the two documents referenced are publically available and directly influenced my vote. How they are interpreted is an individual choice. People who are genuinely interested will willingly read them, others for whatever reason are quite happy with following the constant fear narrative. Some forget we had a global empire which we managed quite successfully.
You don't need me to spell them out, just read them and interpret how the EU was conceived and why?
Will Self was spot on. Aged well.
4:04. Social inequality in Britain pre-dates the EU and it was ridiculous to cite poverty as a reason to leave. In fact, it was the EU that invested in disadvantaged areas from the Highlands to northern England and the Midlands, to south Wales, places the Tories will never help because there are no votes in it for them. Deprivation in the UK is a home-grown phenomenon, huge wealth all in the hands of a small percentage who are connected throughout their lives from birth to school, the City, clubs and institutions and who use their influence to keep it that way.
What do you mean ‘was he right’. History has documented he was right.
It’s not a question it’s a fact
Will Self .......fearless.
He really is, I share his views but if I were on that show at the start and I were to lock eyes with that bigot I would be shaking.
If that bigot was sat next to me his eyes wouldn't have been open long enough to create a stare 😉
Blame the EU for the Tories incompetence and shafting of the working class.
No, blame the TORIES for their incompetence and their shafting of the working class.
Blame the working class for being so gullible as to believe a Tory
Blame the EU for the Tories? What a load of cobblers!
@@Lynnefromlyn No, just sarcasm
I blame labour and tories
I saw the "Grubby Opportunists Riding On Coattails Of History" and thought, yep, sounds pretty accurate.
The delivery was epic.
I've always liked Will Self. Incisive intellect and not afraid to call out the frauds.
We love will self ❤
I'm not sure there is much doubt that a lot of people making a lot of noise in the UK at the moment would have felt totally at home in 1930s Germany.
Ever noticed how they always talk about Churchill and world war 2 but wear swastikas?
We need to see and hear from will self a lot more .
Some people should be reminded that it wasnt just London that voted to remain. Most of the big cities voted remain. Im from Liverpool so I must be part of the metropolitan elite.😂
yeah - as a Londoner I remember looking at the map and thinking we ought to declare UDI - we not only had the Thames access, but there was an odd corridor of 'remain' towns that linked us to the south coast around Brighton to build a new deep-water port. With the other cities you mention, it was a bit scattered, but represented a large part of the international income-earning part of the country. Sadly it didn't include North Sea gas, our only natural resource!
Liverpool, the metropolitan elite. I love it. 😊
@@johnclark2751erm, Scotland voted remain, basically all the oil and gas.
My mother’s manager was told to “Fuck off back to Leeds” when she moved to London for better economic opportunities. Nationalism is fairly pernicious
It's the countries wealthy, but previously townies, who moved to the villages then became born again villagers that voted leave.
They laughed when they voted leave, they are not laughing now
Nobody who voted is at fault for any of this, whichever way they voted. Only one person is to blame and he was not only the leader of the remain party but of the country too. I bet he was laughing, he certainly whistled happily.
@@Elwaves2925Brexiteers are partly responsible. The racist fringe in this country has been increasingly enabled and assertive since the vote, populism has taken hold, rather than the referendum marginalising the swivel eyed Tory loons it has purged the Tory party of the centrist sane Tory and put the swivel eyed incompetences in charge. And the worsening economic situation, largely due to Brexit and Tory incompetence provides a fertile ground for the far right to plant their destructive seeds of racism/nationalism.
@@KevinSheedy10 I see what you're saying and agree with most of your points. However, it's still not leave voters who are even partly responsible as that paints all leavers as the same. As you point out, it's the racists and nationlists and while they likely voted leave, they do not equal all Brexiteers. I hope you'd agree with that.
Even so, if leavers are partly responsible, then so are remainers. There's a whole load of them parroting the same crap that all leavers are racist, or only voted for nationalist reasons which is complete rubbish. I can see why people would react to that high and mighty attitude of stirring things up. If one side is partly responsible, the other side is equally responsible too.
Ultimately though it still comes down to that one man. Neither leavers or remainers put the opportunity to vote for Brexit in place. One man and one party did that and they didn't have to. It was only given to us because cowardly Cameron was scared of a loudmouth like Farage. All done without any plan and even as the remain leader, he should have had a plan in place because he was PM. Let's never forget that this same coward promised to see it through, whatever the result, then he ran off day one, leaving the door open for all the incompetent, corrupt Tories to follow.
It is 100% his and the Tories fault, both directly and indirectly. 🙂
Where we're now is a direct consequence of Brexit, the failure to realise the control of the borders which was a lie and an integral part of the Brexit manifesto is being manipulated by extreme factions to go more extreme and end up with a civil conflict.
There are enough ingredients (anger, actors, stokers, lack of law enforcers) to turn this into a very nasty episode at the very least.
@@Elwaves2925 The non-racist Brexit voters were warned this may happen. And they went ahead and voted in favour of it anyway.
As I knew then, he is and was totally correct on all points about Brexit.
Particularly saying how this will lead to further populism and extremism.
Totally bang on.
Hooray for Will Self. I proudly thanked him in person when I bumped into him in a tube station one day a couple of years ago. He modestly accepted. I said it then, and I repeat now, "thanks for what you do, keep going"
Well said Will nail on the head brother 👍🏿👍👍🏾
Always gotta love Will Self.
His books are excellent too.
I found this difficult to watch. It brings back so many bad memories. I was just coming out of depression in 2016 and found the referendum too much. I remember being sick to the stomach at the sight of Nigel Farage crowing like a little bantum cock on a dung heap when the results came through. I'm going to have to go cleanse my mind now. 😔
Don't go for a walk on Beachy Head to cleanse your mind. I've heard music be the food of love.
Black Sabbath perhaps.
@@pete212gwhat a stupid comment.
At least you weren’t forced to hear about it in school constantly. You chose to watch coverage
I remember that night. I had a couple of free days and watched the election when I still had a telly. Jonathan Dimbleby was in shock at the results and could hardly believe what millions of us already knew. I live in Starmer's constituency and know these elite phonies. So much for Cameron's and Dimbleby's judgement.
Brilliant selection of Self's comments. He struck me as an important voice that has remained absolutely relevant. Liked n subbed.
Confirmed that Remain was the intelligent choice, and I bet that,like today’s rioters, Brexiteers were making all that noise.
Always glad to see this again. Self should be on TV more, but we can't be having intelligent, well-reasoned and insightful commentary can we?
Even John Snow parrots the “elite” line. Will Self couldn’t get a word in. Dreda speaks with the naive passion and emotion and lack of factual knowledge about the role of the EU that many people at the time felt. I would love to hear what she has to say today and whether she blames herself or the Brexiteers for committing the biggest act of economic self harm any country has inflicted on itself. Sad thing is I know people who are still lying to themselves about Brexit benefits rather than admit they made a massive mistake.
Wouldn’t it be good if British racists just said out loud. “I’m a racist and I voted for Brexit”. Instead they say I’m not racist and I voted for brexit to save Britain. Look around Brexiteers and see the Britain you saved. Also, let’s not forget Cameron and Johnson. Where are they now? The week after Brexit Covid hit the Uk and instead of EU help they had to survive with NHS grit, staffed by many people whom racists would probably want out of Britain.
They'll play the victim card instead, they always do
Your beloved v*s were first given in Britain after the EU could not arrange them. In the end, of course, EU got that wrong, too. And the v protected nobody. Wake up and smell the coffee; we were Airstrip One of the EU Nation.
Will Self is the most honest and perceptive commentator. And I love his books too
The brexiteers he engages with are often too simple to understand what he saying. ‘You should apologise’, ‘I’m not racist’….baffaling inability to listen.
Great compilation - it's good to look back at what people were saying in 2016.
Will Self being the cleverest person in the room 👏🌈
Except he doesn't know his WH Auden from WB Yeats.
The only working class and middle class people in the UK that voted to leave the European Union and continue to be happy with their decision are those who still have no idea what harm has been done to their own pockets.
I think it was the Bank of England which said that the average family in the UK has seen a £2000 a year year - for - year deficit in their incomes ( 2 grand a year worse off ). When this was put to St Nigel his response was to laugh it off and quip something of the order of, " oh, let`s make it £20,000...."
That, to me, is a scum in posh outfits.
Many people in this country are unable to think critically. So they find someone to think for them ( or against them ) and trot behind them as sheep do.
I saw a comment that the EU was set to punish tax avoidance which made city bankers like Nigel desperate to foment opposition to it.
Various predictions were made of Brexit. One from the Bank of England was that we would be worse off by a certain amount. The Bank will hardly admit to an error now, will it? And what does £2000 mean after Brexit enactment than before? Voted for it in 2016, got it in 2020 (itself an outrage against democracy). So £2000 at 2016 prices against £2500 at 2020 prices. Inflation was rampant after the Bank printed funny money to pay for lockdowns, furloughs etc. Someone made a fortune.
Yes, in my opinion, he described him perfectly.
*Good ol' Will Self proven by history to be 100% correct Liz, **_as per_** usual. And what a terrific video - I shall share as widely as I can!* 👍😎💚☕🥃
Of course he was right.
nailed it . Will Smith
brilliant
He's gone a bit pale since The Fresh Prince of Bel Air...
@@michaelcope856 its his cousin from another mother
KEEP MY WIFE’S NAME
What a mess, and in 2024 we have a Labour government sort of £20b, and the OBR and Goldman Sachs saying we have lost £100b, but why won't Labour point this out... We are skint... and we are skint because of Brexit.
No, no, no, 😢 You are skint because of 14 years of Tories, Torying 😂
!4 years of Tory Austerity. It was austerity that set the conditions for BRexit. Many wanted change ANY change and plenty votes, as Snow said, as a protest.
@@brianferguson7840I feel a Venn Diagram coming on
Brexit and the incompetance of the previous 14 years of government and the showboating of clowns like Jonson and Farage
@@brianferguson7840On that l agree. The tories have ruined the Uk.
Scotland voted 62% to remain. Dragged out of the EU and now poorer economically and culturally. Shame on the right.
33% of Scots are thankful England backed them up!
More people in England voted to stay in the EU than the entire population of Scotland. England got dragged out too
snp how do 4 year old bairns 'swing'?
a majority gained through patrick harvies
IAN DUNN MEMORIAL AWARD eh
nicholas' legacy of failure lol
@@user-yh9sn1ye1jIan Dunn the Labour Party member
Can't wait for you Scots to get independents.
Will Self is a smart man.
But not as smart as he thinks he is.
Not that smart, he lost. .......
@@johnrice4191losing something does not mean you’re not smart, or not right.
Will Self is a national treasure. We need to hear from him more often!
Grubby little opportunists. Never a truer word spoken.
When Farage went on the stage with Trump, Trump introduced him as "The King of Europe" 😂 he stopped then ran on the stage and everyone clapped 😂😂😂
Who's he talking about,well off lefties
Not as pithy as a Wilde or a Churchill but not too bad for a Stormzy, I guess.
Love the way they stare each other down. 🤓 Will is the man.
He is so cool!
@@lizwebstersbf
As are his writings. Back in the day his novel 'Great Apes', traumatised me, in the best possible way. 😎😁
@@lizwebstersbf Hi Liz - yes brilliant let's just hope a Brexiteer doesn't point out that the Labour Party was found guilty of systemic Anti-Semitism and their supporters attacked a Synagogue during the 'peace' marches.
Mark FRANCois has The Physique of the Master Race
@@StratsRUs Mmmm. I refer you to Arno Breker mate. No worries, I get the irony. 😊
"The EU paid for a by-pass, youth centres, rebuilt the town centre, financed business centres, paid to refurbish schools, they even paid for a statue for the town! Why are you angry?"
"SEE, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, WASTING OUR MONEY ON STUPID STATUES."
This really happened.
Als Nettozahler in der EU hat nicht die EU das alles bezahlt. Das alles wurde von britischem Geld (EU Mitgliedsbeitrag) bezahlt, das von der EU wieder an das UK zurückverteilt wurde.
Dazu hat das UK 10-18 Milliarden Euro an Ungarn, Polen und alle armen Mitgliedsstaaten gegeben.
Dafür hat das UK bekommen:
Vergünstigungen im Waren- und Finanzdienstleistungs- Import und Export im Wert von 100 Milliarden Euro.
Nach dem Brexit 2021 verliert das UK wegen Brexit ein Vielfaches des Mitgliedsbeitrages.
Because the Libertarian Far Right has no real interest in funding projects which benefit us little people. They want the freedom to suck the life blood out of our country.
Lionel Shriver - a Brexit-supporting American that now lives in...the EU. The banged the drum to get away from that horrible EU and eventually moved there herself. Dear Leavers - that's the people you put your trust in 😀
Just like brillo head andrew Neil.
I'm not quite sure what you mean? You mean that she now lives in France or Germany or ...?
Mark Francois is like a caricature of a character from Animal Farm. Will Self is brilliant.
I would say that many in the UK.beieved that Brexit wasn't a good idea.
WOW ! Understatement Redefined. 😢😢
more didnt vote for it than did vote for it, the majority was way too small to act on when so many didnt vote at all and with russian bot and misinformation favouring one side. But the evil tories acted on it
Errr yes. The numbers in the referendum vote align with your view..
I would like to agree with you, so that's at least 2 of us
He was absolutely bang on.
Wow Liz! Great research! Really important comment on the current circumstances of anti-immigration riots.
Will Self brilliant.
Will was correct as always, it’s been a 💩 show since Brexit, and anyone who thought this through would have realised how Brexit would damage us.
Yes. It was obvious then and been conclusively proven now.
Hope she loves her complete democracy now
Will self is a genius and he's hit the nail on the head, you can tell by how flustered the tory is
I remember waking up after the referendum utterly shocked we had voted to leave. My personal fear was that we had allowed the conservatives to run us as they saw fit without the checks of the EU. The lies, the deceit, the backtracking. If I may misquote a platitude 'divided we stand, united we fall.' we all end up as handful of dust. Also have you seen the cartoon of the cookies on a plate...?
Hull and Stoke. Gosh. Riot towns. Turns out promising them Brexit as a cure to all their woes then failing to deliver has dangerous consequences.
Will Self is a treasure. Self put what I felt into words, cautioning folk to use head not heart. 2024....here we are.
I am a lot more financially well off since we left the EU......
@@johnrice4191 The country isnt, but it's all about you, right?
@@TheJohnsonseviltwin I know plenty of people that are better off out of the EU because the country isn't being flooded by cheap labour. The salary for my job went up between £12,000 and £15,000 ,a year on average. People who voted to remain did so because they would be financially better off .........you don't vote to make yourself poorer.....
@johnrice4191 instead of cheap EU labour you've got cheap Asian and African labour at a higher rate than at any point compared to EU workers.
Also, inflation was at 7.5% and an average of 4.9% the last 6 years sp your mates wages are lower inflation adjusted. But of course don't expect you to understand any of that as clearly, you are dim.
@@TheJohnsonseviltwin Asians and Africans don't want to do my job. Inflation changes all the time....
People mistook austerity and Tory failure for the fault of the eu
People also blame leave voters when the whole thing was the fault of a Tory and the ones that followed him.
Bet she shut her mouth now
He has been proven to be right, like myself and many millions of others.
Do you notice as well he's not allowed on the television anymore. Coincidence?
Will has been right Time proved him right
Mark whats his face is getting worked up because Will has just told him something troubling about himself.
Listening to Dreda Mitchell makes me want to pull my hair out. She represents everything that was stupid about Brexit. All those tired and flawed arguments. I used to find Will Self annoying but he was absolutely on the money here.
I wonder if Dreda watches this interview back and realises how wrong she was.
Will Self right about everything there, except, rather embarrassingly for a writer, he attributes a very famous quote by W B Yeats to W H Auden.
Probably a slip of the brain because of the initials being similar. And not really important. It's a great quote.
"The best lack all conviction, while the worst are full of passionate intensity" is from "The Second Coming" - Yeats' fearful vision of the apocalypse.The poem ends:
"And what rough beast, his hour come round at last,
Slouches towards Bethlehem to be born".
Trump and Johnson both are rough beasts. Both slouch.
She said - "I was in Stoke and was surprised at how different it is to London" complete ffs
Will Self is brilliant
Intelligence over celebrity , he is right and still is, what a shame no one took time to hear this man . Just because im black im not racist, the answer to this is yes you can !.
good old will. bang on the money and the most articulate man in the argument.
Oh yes, Will Self is spot on. As for the stare, it was classic.
He was on point. Bigots the lot of 'em.
Aw man I knew I shouldn’t have voted leave in my schools version of the Brexit referendum, now I’m stuck being a bigot forever
I just thought Article 13 was a silly idea the EU were proposing, I never knew it meant I hate everyone who isn’t a white British male
And it’s not like a bunch of terror attacks scared some people into voting the way they did or anything
She's saying she didn't know where the NYT got the idea of the Leave campaign was based on nostalgia, they wanted to bring back the empire. Where does she live? It's always been about that... Meanwhile, in the background all you can see is UKIP banners and the noise? Isn't that an air raid siren?
Will Self at 11:00 ‘I think there’s a perfectly good case for leaving the European Union but the problem is… it’s a vector that carries with it ethnic nationalism... If you go to the heartland and you talk to people… the ethnic nationalism comes up right away, immediately, so it’s there.’
Can’t say he didn’t warn us.
“Elites supported remain” - no. While industrial capital generally supported remain, finance capital favoured Brexit.
"Enjoy the ride" - classic words.