Worst Air Crash in 30 Years | Crashing Seconds Before Landing (With Real Video)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 10 พ.ค. 2024
- An ATR 72 aircraft operating as Yeti Airlines Flight 691 crashed on final approach in excellent weather conditions, making this flight Nepal's worst air disaster in 30 years. Find out what really happened.
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Chapters
0:00 Intro
0:18 Pre-flight Preparation
1:15 Passengers and Crew
1:45 Captain Anju
3:37 Flight Attendants
4:03 Departure from Kathmandu
4:23 Approaching Pokhara
5:37 Deadly Error
6:28 Engine Feathering
7:37 Turning onto the Airport
9:10 Crash (Real Video)
10:48 Investigation - บันเทิง
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It’s hard to understand how a pilot for 6000 hours can mistake the flaps for the propellor and never even notice. RIP to all.
Distracted. Bored. Not giving the job his full attention. It happens all the time and everyone is familiar with it.
Doesn't the sound of the propellers change?
according to the transcript it seems like the PM was the one who presumably mistook the flaps for the conditions lever , also the PM as I know had close to if not more than 20000 hrs. he was the instructor Pilot or check airmen as you call it in the US . Also the PF who is on the Left seat is probably looking out the window during the turn to line up for the runway and failed to notice what had happened , if you read the report this whole accident sequence took under 60 sec which is not a lot of time to figure out what went wrong .
I will wait for the final report to confirm whether it was a mistake by the PM that caused this accident or not. It's an incredibly gross mistake. I know that sometimes because of the flight frequency fatigue a pilot can make a mistake, but this mistake was very gross.
@@FirstLast_Nba as potato said they didn't have much time. They knew there was a power problem whether from the instruments or flying characteristics or other ques. They didn't have time to figure out the why.
Anyone can make mistakes, but what is mind-boggling is that Anju told the PM at least THREE TIMES of the loss of power!
How in the world did he not check the prop lever!? So tragic!
She had eyes. They stayed in the turn even though she knew they were bleeding speed apparently. No mayday. Didn't try to avoid a populated area. Turning the controls over at the last minute wasn't a good plan either. Complete and utter mismanagement of that landing approach and crash.
Why is everyone blaming the Man when it’s clearly the Females thats at fault …
She could easily have glanced at the levers herself to confirm their positions, it would have taken less than a second. Stop only blaming the other captain, based on this video she wasn't without fault either.
Seems to me they both made mistakes..
@Lurch No 6000 hour pilot trainee is going to question a 20000 hour pilot. I suggest you check out the Tenarife air disaster to see exactly how MALE pilots with thousands of hours never even once questioned their senior pilot when he decided to take off without clearance. You simply want to blame a woman for a mans mistake.
The P.f. Anju Khatiwada was my aunt, losing her this early was deeply saddening, her determination to become a pilot was just out of the world R.I.P aunt and uncle
My condolences.
I’m so very sorry 😞
My prayers 🙏 go out to you for your loss God bless them and you my friend 🙏❤️🇨🇦
I’m so sorry for your families loss, especially her child, if it’s any consolation at least they are now together in whatever comes after this
Do you live in napel also
I was instantly saddened by the cruel twist of fate I knew was coming when I heard that her husband had died co-piloting, and that having been the spark to fly in the first place. I can't imagine how their daughter must feel. I wouldn't blame her if she never flies.
Same. The poor daughter is an orphan, how very sad for her.
I MEAN, ITàS KIND OF hard to fly when you are dead. Hhh h H
Both these pilots were MASS MURDERERS !!!
RIP all
The TSA made me never fly commercially again.
Charters with under 66 passengers and private flights are still 100% exempt.
I cannot imagine being so close to landing and facing a crash instead in your final moments of life.
Well, usually the crash is associated with your final moments, unless you survive.😆
Take off and landing are the two most dangerous points in flying. Most travelers think it’s in the air.
@SaraSays: The late part of takeoff all the way to the last part of landing is "in the air".
Watch the video of the guy streaming the whole thing as a passenger....
@@RickL_was_here Link??
Looks like it came down to the PM pulling the wrong lever. Anju was so close to achieving her dream of flying as a Captain! 😞
instructor pilot is also a human who can make mistake 😢😢😢
I’m also having suspicions that something really bad is going on within that airline. That was the fourth time in seven years that an incident has occurred and the second in the last six months.
@@Powerranger-le4up, to say that would involve the PM flying himself and all on board into the ground. Whether he had these kind of intentions, hopefully, the investigation will show. 😞😢
@@Powerranger-le4up Yeah, beginning with the name. Who was th genius who came up with "Yety Airways"?
@@Powerranger-le4up Yes, it seems even the "experienced" pilot wasn't very good. I do wish planes had some sort of system to alert "hey, this thing you just did, are you sure you really wanted to do that?"
How can a captain, an instructor pilot, performed such gross negligence?
Incompetence might be a better description.
Might have had something to do with the XX in the left seat.
I sure hope not, for the sake of all those innocent souls on board.
@@sammencia7945 Might want to hide your chauvinism a little better. Or not, if you want to die as a virgin. Or are you saying men lack the ability to perform their job when a woman is anywhere near them? If that's your argument, that would be a pretty harsh accusation against men.
Sometimes the computer makes the mistake
As a Class III pilot this terrible accident makes some sense. Like most accidents, be they in a car, or at a factory, or in an airplane, too many hours can be fatalistic. Especially if you are not pushed to meet the standards precisely from time to time by a neurotic instructor. Feeling like you can do this with your eyes closed is the worst possible level of confidence. For it is then that you will most likely make the mistake that will cost dearly.
Well said
Yes indeed. My husband has a A and P license and used to work on jets and said that being exhausted from being overworked was a contributing factor in maintenance neglect and mistakes
Routine is not a good skill to have in some jobs. Not allowing yourself to fall into routine is a skill.
Why didn't the Captain/Instructor take over and fix the problem. He took over at the end and crashed. Like they wanted too. I saw the movie Flight. Too bad Denzel wasn't on board because he would of landed it upside down.
Complacency kills look at all the accidents with class 1 instructors with thousands of hours, that and if you fly long enough you will meet the student with the skills to kill you.
I feel for their daughter. Now parentless. I’m glad some time passed so she’s an adult, but still horrible to know both your parents died in aviation. The odds are astounding of that happen and hopefully the daughter still knows aviation is extremely safe.
How is it extremely safe if they're both dead?
Surely safer now...
seeing as how the Pilot Flying killed everyone, I think she should be more embarrassed that BOTH of her Parents were not very good Aviators that killed a lot of People with their refusal/inability to do their Job properly...
I feel for their daughter. Now parentless. I’m glad some time passed so she’s an adult, but still horrible to know both your parents died in aviation. The odds are astounding of that happen and hopefully the daughter still knows aviation is extremely safe.
@@ligmasack9038 This statement is a complete misrepresentation of what happened.
Such a sad story. I don't usually get affected watching these type of video but I became truly choked up about this one. May all of the victims rest in peace. 😥
I was going to write pretty much the same thing.
Oh yes Lets all hope they rest in peace ......
Me likewise😢
How helpless each one feels strapped to their seats and crew as well knowing there's not a chances to survive while plummeting towards the ground at full speed.
How very sad.
It is a certain death. I imagine fear level is off the charts. Like a roller coasted ride from hell. I wonder what you think about in those last few forlorn seconds when you know your life is doomed and can do not a thing about it? That would truly suck. Disbelief I would imagine, maybe that you wasted your entire unlucky life on a ***** plane ride. Then the long dirt nap for all eternity. Only good thing, it prob isn't too physically painful. I should imagine the hundreds of bodies just disintegrate into small pieces in a fraction of a second. Prob no bodies even to recover. Of all the ways to die, covid, Russian window gravity death, plane crash are the top three crappy ones.
We need a coroner's full report on the mental and physical state of both pilots, including how well rested they were before flying. Tragic loss of life. RIP to all
Was there drinking involved?
And jab status...
How is an autopsy report going to determine somebody's mental/psychological status?🤔
Are you're mental?🤤
EDIT: Disregard this whole response,
I mistakenly saw 'autopsy report' instead of 'coroner's full report.
*I was mental this time.* 🤪🤯
@@skeetermcswagger0U812 Well, thanks for your smooth-brain comment. Can you tell me where I said anything about an autopsy report? I said "coroner's full report". Google is your friend, go and educate yourself.
@N Davies most likely the remains of those pilots were burned and destroyed beyond the ability to do the analysis you're talking about.
It's strange that they didn't immediately notice both the deceleration and change in engine sound.
It should be immediately noticeable to both pilots. Even the PF, who had over 6000 flight hours.
I don't think the sound of propeller pitch change will be noticeable while flying, but for sure they should have caught the master caution chime and light.
@@chris22capt You would surely feel the engines go into Feather mode, the sensation is similar jet engines going from takeoff power to idle instantly
@@lukethomas.125 that is for sure, but what is even more strange, how did nobody notice the master caution when the acw became offline on the featherinh. Even if the master caution chime somehow inop, you can't for sure missed that loud clack sound when the acw become offline. How can nobody noticed that...
@@chris22capt I know it's extremely bizarre. The PF had over 6000 hours and the Instructor (PM) likely had many more, how on earth did they miss the Master Caution warning?
A passenger named Sonu Jaiswal live-streamed a Facebook video on board this plane when it crashed. The video is absolutely heartbreaking
Saw it
Do you have the link?
th-cam.com/video/HHG_JDhodR4/w-d-xo.html
th-cam.com/video/0mu1bru4SfQ/w-d-xo.html
@@paulymac5513 it’s a hard watch. I wish I hadn’t seen it
Thanks for covering this accident, I have been a fan for a while.I am half Nepalese but I live in the other country I am from. My dad took the flight before this and I was very sad because I thought he was on this flight. He called me 2 days after. May the victims of the incident rest well and god bless their families.
Since feathering is used only in extremely rare cases, there should be some kind of safety lock or warning sounds to prevent such tragedies from happening.
Too much warn sound will confuse the pilot，it need to reserve for the situation which is dire
Can someone please explain what went wrong in layman’s terms? I’m so lost.
@@nigelstanford4 The pilot (we assume accidentally) pulled the lever that determines what angle the propeller blades are angled to near 0% (called feathering). This caused them to produce no thrust to power the plane. As a result, not enough air was passing over the wings to keep it airborne. The plane therefore stalled and crashed.
What the other two commenters are discussing is the idea that since a pilot would only ever lower the propeller angle like that on purpose in an emergency scenario, there should be a warning sound to tell pilots in case it is done accidentally. That likely would have saved the plane in this case.
@@JohnDoe-uu9gh thank you, did the flappers not rotating have anything to do with the crash?
@@nigelstanford4Probably not, flaps create more lift, but also more drag. (You can fly slower, but need more thrust input) With the props feathered it would’ve lost enough speed and energy anyway so it still would’ve stalled.
*She died in the same way her husband did (operating a plane). And 17 years apart. Wow. May they rest in peace and reunite in heaven* 😢🙏
Though her husband flew Twin Otters.
You think maybe their kids will avoid flying?
@Buckwheat Are you trying to be offended over nothing?
@Buckwheat bro what are you even trying to tell? You high af rn 😂
Women in the cockpit. Tik-Tok air hostesses. Wow! What could possibly go wrong?
Watching the video of the man smiling moments before the crash was heartbreaking.
Anju took a pretty bad rap across social media in the aftermath of the crash. Now it appears that it was the pilot monitoring who threw the wrong levers. To make matters worse, it seems he recognized later that the flaps were still at 15 and slipped them to 30 without saying anything. Too late by that time. So.many.times. we see the more “experienced” pilots become complacent and cause an accident.
And if the video is correct sounds like PM increased flaps when the PF was struggling with air speed... Worsening the problem.
but still, she was flying and didnt notice the engines were practically off
@@christiansvideos increasing flaps increases the stall speed, so that didn't worsen the problem. It would have stalled sooner if he hadn't increased the flaps. He screwed up probably because he was used to sitting in the left seat, and from there the flap levers were those on the far side of the feather levers. I don't understand how it's possible to feather two functioning propellers, there should be some kind of lock, as for thrust reversers on jets.
Both were responsible, as this flight was to complete her training to become captain. Neither of them identified multiple problems.
@@YZ2023-rh5le Yes, he, the pilot monitoring.
I remember someone posting on Twitter a video of a passenger doing a selfie in the final seconds of the flight. From happiness and glee to terror and flames within a moment. One of the most disturbing videos I have ever seen, considering that I swear that I heard screams and crying AFTER the crash, as if passengers actually briefly survived and died in tremendous suffering. The official word is that there were no survivors, but that was not the case until some time after impact.
those were thankfully not screams but the sounds of the engines. between the force of the initial impact, the pressure from the point blank explosion from the jet fuel igniting and the jet fuel itself it is extremely unlikely you would survive for more than a split second. It's not the fall that kills you, its the sudden stop
@@SAVarXX Hopefully so, but do remember that there have been survivors (at least for a while) during other crashes that had a much less controlled and intense drop. The 1985 JAL disaster, for example.
there is no such video.
Yes, there was, lol. It may well have been taken down now, since it was so disturbing. But it is something I will never forget seeing.@@sarahwentforalemonwedgeand8991
th-cam.com/video/0mu1bru4SfQ/w-d-xo.htmlsi=3UOXCX55g4VQasH2@@sarahwentforalemonwedgeand8991
during the final stage there was a passenger who filmed the crash on board, poor people, rest in peace all victims😣😓
I saw that.
The fire spread so quickly that was crazy
Link please
Saw that. That's about as close as it comes to experiencing what dying in a plane crash would be like without actually being in a plane crash. RIP buddy, and all others.
I also saw that horrific video shot by a passenger on that I'll fated plane, they crashed and burnt 🔥🥵 alive. RIP to all the 72 passengers and crew 💐💐💐.
The PM was not doing his job, if he had read the flap indicator on the instrument panel he would have seen they had not moved. A complete ant total incompetence by the PM
I now fully respect all pilots, they make it look so easy when you fly yet they have to do a lot more to get us home to our loved ones safely. This video was mind boggling the passengers were almost home. May God bless y’all pilots.
Like my son. I pray for him and is crew everyday I woke up in the morning and the last thing I say before heading to bed.
that is where you get wrong, most of the time pilots are basically passengers due to autopilot, but they are most active during takeoff and landing, so if the crashes are at takeoff and landing in a higher probability then you can understand, the other thing is that this incident is purely human error call it misjudgment or miscommunication or failure to know their own craft (like if you own a motorbike and you don't know how it works to quickly react when you feel something ain't right then please don't ride for the sake of others at least).
in this case whatever be the case but the pilot/copilot are responsible for the loss of their passengers who might have been better than them in terms of intelligence but could do nothing since they "trusted" the pilots
NOTE: I am not blaming the all the pilots, but just those incompetent people who are subservient to do their duty. if the pilot feels they are having a bad day (sleeplessness, stress, physical issues etc) then don't take the steering wheel better to get some loss of pay or action than risking others life
The worse aircraft accident was on November 10th 1970. The plane was carrying the whole team of 75 players, supporters and flight attendants of my home town in Huntington West Virginia, Marshall University. It was foggy and the pilot thought he was headed towards the landing. Instead it clipped into a mass of hillside trees, crashed and burned. There was no survivors.
A friend of mine his Mom was on that plane ,,
Not to minimize that accident, but there have been quite a few with higher death tolls.
I remember hearing about that crash. My condolences to all the surviving loved ones.
There was a movie made about it.
@@Zomby_Woof Yeah,but i think the fact they were all mostly from the same University causes this one to hit slightly different. That's a lot of deaths for one University to take in one go..
I am not a pilot but I find the technology and skills fascinating. Isn’t there a gauge that tells pilot the blades are feathered? Was this the warning that was initially shut off.
What a tragic unfortunate avoidable loss of life.
Yes, the torque gauges.
D.W. - Yes, the "cricket" sound of the warning caused one of them (PM I think) to reach over and shut it off.
people may think its the pilot's fault but its poor cockpit design by the engineers, those levers shouldn't be that close together
Yes. Gauges are most useful and practical when reading them ultimately saves lives -like a fuel gauge when gas is low. . .or when a the pilot inadvertently or intentionally engages the prop lever, feathering the propellers at such low altitude. Shouldn't doing so set off a litany of ear-busting alarms in the cockpit? Wouldn't such a gauge be a logical safeguard?
@@draco2xx No aircraft cockpits are designed Ergonomically, far from it. A 2000 dollar car has way better ergonomic design, a multimillion dollar aircraft, no!
Standard Operating Procedures for the movement of any vital controls usually require the PF flying to tell the PM to put his hand to the relevent control, to which the PF concurs verbally (if it's correct) then it is moved. 🙂
As soon as I saw the actual footage of this crash that was posted back in January. It immediately reminded me of the footage of TransAsia Airways Flight 235 back in 2015 where they shut down the wrong engine down...
My thoughts and sympathies goes out to all who lost there lives in this crash and to all of there family's.
There's a video of a passenger recording on this flight and it records the crash. Absolutely mind boggling. RIP to all of those on board.
How to find it?
where is it
Show us
where is it?
@@speedrace95 th-cam.com/video/Thls8xTV63Y/w-d-xo.html
It seems like a simple thing to have the computer announce something like "flap adjustment" or "propeller adjustment" when those controls are being used.
That’s pretty shocking considering there are TWO condition levers and ONE flap lever- How do you forget that? and more importantly not catch it? My heart goes out to the families.
They're human.
One must not forget that ego is always at play. Especially when a male is "monitoring" a female. More reluctant to give criticism/advice or even observations!
well he paid for his mistake in full, that's for sure
..divided attention can do that. Instructing can alter
routine/workload
Im not even sure "pilot error" is a proper term for such a prolonged egregious lack of skills that led to this unnecessary tragedy. It's truly hard to grasp.
@Karl with a K It's evident that you have no clue what you're talking about and that you're talking out of your @#$. On an ATR 72 you CAN feather both engines simultaneously. You can feather left (first setting), feather right (second setting) or feather both (3rd setting), depending on the lever position. And there is definitely no audible warning of the flaps setting either on ATR 72's. That is completely false. Literally 100% of the stuff you just said is false for that specific aircraft.
@@karlwithak.I already suspected you know nothing about ATR when i first read your comment and the last line of yours prove it. There is NO FCC in ATR. It's completely cable running from the cockpit to the control surface. No computers in between.
Another, yes, it's possible to feather both propeller at the same time, the eec have nothing to prevent dual feathering. Another one, there is no aural warning to indicate flaps 30. That's a total bs.
@@karlwithak.Ah, what you talk about flaps automatically is Flap Load Relief and that's Boeing's system. You even wrong on describing the system. It will retract the flaps automatically when the speed INCREASE, overshoting the flap limit speed, not the other way around. Imagine the speed decrease until near stall and then the flaps start retracting. That's a golden ticket to the Father in heaven.
I would attribute the crash to cranial-rectal inversion syndrome on the part of the instructor.
It is fake
The final report is important, but preliminarily, a couple of obvious things stand out. In the ATR-72, the flap position and condition levels are near each other, so a pilot (particularly an instructor!) should look at the levers before moving them. The instructor pilot is responsible for teaching the trainee about this before she ever steps on the airplane, and Anju should have been practicing on a simulator (I'm not saying she wasn't, but a simulator is where you look for the danger points and find out what happens if you don't do things right). Also, a turboprop includes trouble-shooting that's a little different than on a turbofan powered aircraft. Sure, you have to be cognizant of engine conditions on both, oil pressure, fuel state, etc., but one of the things that sets the turboprop apart is you have to pay attention to the propellers. When propeller speed and torque dropped, it was the training officer's responsibility to make sure Anju checked the propeller state (and had he looked, he would have found his mistake). It looks like there was sufficient time, between the initial error and the beginning of the stall, to correct the problem. When Anju advanced the throttles and nothing happened, a check on the propellers would have indicated the solution - unfeather the props immediately! The training Captain's responses were unacceptable; again this is preliminary, and the final report is important.
And no one looked at the speed indicators slowing prestall! Wow😮
For me, I think I'd make that mistake too... Until Anju told there was no thrust from the engines.
Then for me, it's straightforward. No need to try to figure out when the usual doesn't work.
Max power
Max propeller condition
Go around if appropriate
Automation, routine protocol driven lack of awareness. Commercial pilots are so disconnected from their aircraft now. When something happens that requires immediate attention and reactive troubleshooting, pilots used to being an almost redundant part of the plane hesitate and can't take in feedback from what the situation is much less initiate a response in a timely manner. Approaches and landings, where altitude is at critical and unforgiving levels demand an instinctive awareness that it's time to bail and abandon. There was almost catatonia on this flight deck until it was too far gone to save.
Final report just in: WOMEN ARE BAD PILOTS
This reminded me of the Colgan Air Flight 3407, where a couple of totally brain dead aviators, one idiot male pilot, and a female first officer desperate for hours and sleep, created perfect conditions for a stall, and then made all the wrong decisions in the 15 seconds that mattered. I remember this clearly as I was on the flight before it. The Colgan Air flight was the last scheduled flight of the day into Buffalo, and the American Air flight I was on was the second to last. I was the last passenger to get my bag as it was oversized. The baggage claim area was empty after that, and that felt strange. But what was worse is that when I got off the escalator, there were people standing there waiting for passengers. Passenger we would find out would later never would arrive. RIP
How could the monitoring pilot be so careless and overconfident...this is utterly sad that so many innocent lives were taken..
RIP🙏
well he paid for his mistake in full, that's for sure
Complacency
yw
Someone mentioned earlier that it may have simply been the reverse configuration of the levers to someone who is used to sitting in the pilot seat. In other words, it is usually the closest lever to the person in the pilot seat. In that second, a huge, consequential, but understandable, mistake was made.
Apparently pilot murder-suicide isn't an unknown thing. There have been at least 6 since 2013, not counting Malaysia Airlines Flight 370.
The video filmed by a passenger onboard, and the story of the pilot is truly heartbreaking. Still cannot believe it. 💔
ARE YOU BLIND ? TOTAL SIMULATION
@@sixtybelow573 The video by the passenger is real.
It has to be a simulation. What was the passenger doing in the cockpit?
There is another video taken by one of the passengers(not this video) that recorded the crash. Camera caught the fire as well. Its heartbreaking. I could only watch it the 1 time
@@lynnyhen What i mean is that there is a video (an actual video) by a passenger of this flight that filmed (as a facebook livestream) the crash as it happened.
It's out there somewhere, i saw it on reddit the day the accident happened.
I'm not normally one person to judge but when she called out the engines weren't producing power that should have been a clue for the instructor to check to make sure he didn't do nothing wrong very sad to say the least rest in peace to all the souls on board that flight
@karlwithak. Why are you spreading fake info everywhere? Almost none of this is true.
Absolutely, with no power they should be trained to scan their eyes on a basic no-power checklist, which of course includes making sure props are in the correct setting.
Power loss. Instant checklist to be followed surely....
@karlwithak. so you're saying that if the pilots did what the video claims, the auto pilot would have taken over control automatically and fixed the mistake? What do you think actually happened then?
It's just so eerie looking on the footage from the victim seconds before crash, in one moment they looked so happy and chit chat as usual but seconds later everything is covered by flame, i really hope it all happen in instant and they won't feel anything..
your videos give us rare visual clarity into otherwise complex air accident reports. thanks for educating
Its good but a little vague. The exact issues and the outcomes havent been explained in detail, like the mention of the engines not providing thrust in the ATC radio call. How did the pilots react to that, didn't they check all the probable causes?
She had lack of confidence because she was in the presence of an instructor. And the instructor had a lapse of alerness, which she was depending on.
It's such a tragedy, the perfect storm.
Yeah i like this realistic theory
Sad. But very likely
Something really bad is going on at Yeti Airlines. That was the fourth incident involving that airline in the last seven years and the second in the last six months.
Probably got investment from Blackrock.
@Karl with a K All of that safety equipment has to be working, though. Sounds like this airline has a recent history of incidents, so their maintenance probably isn't up to scratch.
There was an "impossible" train crash in the UK because the driver was distracted when it went through a red signal, and the automatic brakes were disabled that day. These things do happen
@@worldcomicsreview354 or maybe someone responsable is lying about what happened.
This is one of the most frustrating aircraft crashes in recent times.
Saw the one young man video at the end and it was so tragic to see. At least this explains what happened. Thank you as always
Wow. I work for an international organization and I have been traveling around the world for the last 14 years and I still get scared, anxious when flying. I am afraid of flying. When I fly I always think of crashes or other things. Scary.
Say a prayer before takeoff.. doesn't hurt.
I used to fly quite a bit during the pre-pandemic era, and never felt any fear. I hadn't seen all these videos. Now i don't travel, but if at all i will ever have to take a flight again in my life, i will be nervous as hell.
The part that infuriates me the most is that AFTER the PM pulled BOTH prop levers back to FEATHER, he then extends the flaps down to 30° as if nothing was wrong. WHAT KIND OF TRAINING DID THESE PILOTS GET????? WTF?
He was probably suffering from task saturation or channelized attention and finally noticed the flaps were not set properly, so he corrected the error. When you're that saturated you're unlikely to recall which other task distracted you from proper setting of the flaps in the first place. I doubt pulling the feather levers instead of the flap lever was covered in their training.
@@gort8203 That's a very plausible theory, but we cannot prove it until we get the final report
So is the position of the Prop levers not part of the pre-landing checklist? If not, it sounds like it perhaps ought to be.
@@lukethomas.125 Of course there is no proof. My point is that training does not cover every possible error a person could make. There is no way to train against an error that hasn't yet been conceived of. I'm sure operators of the ATR will now caution their pilots against confusing the prop lever with the flap lever, but they can't train against the next inconceivable mistake such as a pilot pulling a manual depress lever instead of the gear lever.
The checklist is irrelevant here. There were not referring to a checklist during these critical moments of the flight. Prop lever could be on the checklist and have already been verified and it wouldn't stop them from later being unintentionally pulled to the wrong position.
I would like to make an small correction for what I've seen in the video. It's that while landing on runway 12, approach is done by turning little bit to the right when plane is lined up to runway 30 but at higher altitude. Plane continues to fly in the direction until it is ready to make a sharp left hand turn and lineup for runway 12. (In the video the plane is coming from the hilly areas of opposite side.)
Since the crash, no plane is allowed to land on runway 12.
The quality of your video/graphics and presentation is amazing. Thank you for sharing this to us.
Thank you for the wonderful video. Hopefully pilots will be able to learn and avoid similar errors. Emotionally, this brought a pit in my stomach and literally tears to my eyes. - Retired MD-11 PIC
Not too long ago there is a video of a Taiwanese pilot who lost an engine on take off and then idled the good engine by mistake. There were casualties. Not someone good at handling stress.
Wow! So the instructor pilot didn't set the flaps when asked to and instead feathered the props. Wow.
Sounds like a suicide attempt
Makes me wonder just *how* these people get that way…. To have such confidence…?
he paid for his mistake in full, that's for sure
@@draco2xxUnfortunately 71 other people also had to pay for that mistake as well.
@@dennisyoung4631 Male Nepali. Lording it over female Nepali. What more needs to be said?
I've never flown a big turbo prop but I have flown multi engine planes with variable pitch props and you can definitely feel and hear the difference when the props are adjusted. Hard to believe you can't tell the difference?
I flew the ATR 72-212 and 212A and prior to landing the props are advanced to full forward. You can definitely tell the difference in noise level and the added drag also helps you slow down to approach speed.
@@Busdriver321 ploo
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Isn't that a good thing, if so? From their feedback, I would think this is educating in itself..
Good reporting. I hope this serves as a wakeup call to pilots everywhere, not just ATR 72 pilots. Attention to detail will save lives .
The man filming live inside the plane when it crashed is what haunts me. One moment he is smiling, and then you hear what sounds like him taking his final breaths. I wished I had never watched the video.
Thank you. I was debating whether to watch it but now I won't.
I flew Yeti from Kathmandu to Pokahra. When i arrived a plane i found out a plane taking off behind us crashed. The return was unreal flying through the mountains. Never felt the yaw before. So sad.... Nepal and its people are amazing.
I think the fact that there s some sort of Yeti Bigfoot involved, this might render a clue
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Don't know why they would call it the Yeti... there is so much folklore involving this elusive creature..
This one was sad to watch. I kept screaming in my own head "Cross check and verify Damnit".
Rest in peace to those souls aboard.
Many saw the video on the news or social media in January 2023. An ATR-72-500 stalls on approach to Pokhara International Airport, Nepal. The official investigation report is not yet ready. But the facts of this accident speak for themselves. Yeti Airlines Flight 691. The deadliest accident involving an ATR 72. This accident report was shot using Microsoft MSFS 2020.
Oh man, how tragic 😥 72 people, that's no small number.
This simulation with the background informations was well done, as always. Thanks.
Just ONE is too many, 72 is unimaginable 😔
The mistake was probably caused as the pilot sitting in the right seat was normally sitting in the left seat as they were an instructor captain training a new captain. The throttle is closest to the left seat than the flap lever is so perhaps the Pilot in the right seat reached over further to put down the flaps as if they were in the left seat like he or she usually was and ultimately put the throttles into the feather mode
That's a brilliant observation. I recon you're spot on.
@@skullsaintdead *reckon
@@minoozolala *Aussie (and people really do dislike a nitpicker, esp. when it's spelling, it's just cringe mate).
@@skullsaintdead Couldn't understand wtf you were trying to say, man.
@Karl with a K So HAL 9000 can wrestle the controls away from the human pilot and land the airplane? Wow, I never knew the ATR-72 was so 'advanced'.
The live stream of the man inside the plane and then everyone started screaming as it banked 100+ degrees then all of a sudden, "BOOM" Rest In Peace to all these pour souls 😢🙏❤
Man I have all kinds of Tv, both streaming of course and broadcast. You eat their shorts! I tell you unequivocally that this kept me fascinated and completely riveted. This was very very very well done!
Finally you cover this accident! I've been waiting for a while!!!! It was so unsettling watching the video the passengers took i wouldn't wish that on my worst enemy!😢
It seems that a courageous and determined trainee captain was let down by a complacent instructor who (a) if so qualified should never have made such a mistake, and (b) if so qualified should have realised that mistake almost immediately, especially when questioned on it by the PF. I await the outcome of the final report but presently it seems that complacency and misplaced self-confidence on the part of a senior officer doomed passengers and crew. My condolences to the families affected.
Very well stated
I would agree. What happened to check and double check? Don’t landings and takeoffs require constant vigilance? It doesn’t seem so here. 😢
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I emailed you about this incident immediately after the crash. Thank you for uploading this video. Eagerly waiting for the final report of the crash.
something doesnt make sense.
this was the position of the levers prior to the accident: 11:44
now at 8:43 you state that flaps were properly extended from 15 to 30 in the second attempt when the pilots noticed the plane wasnt behaving like it should.
this means that at 11:45 someone brought the flaps to 30.
did they do it from muscle memory? cause if they had looked down they would have seen the condition lever set to FTR.
Also, what I dont like is how the ATR gives no audible warning that the props have been feathered. Apparently, it happens in silence. This was also a manufacturer error, not just the Instructor's.
Whoever made this video did a good job. You made it look so real.
I am 64, and the only plane I have ever flown in my whole life was a short fight in a Cessna when I was 19. I have often thought it would have been an interesting and exciting job to be a commercial pilot. An enormous responsibility though. Instead.. I was a commercial poultry caretaker for 40 years (both feet firmly on the wood shavings)! I enjoy watching these flight simulation's. Extremely well done! In this instance.. shouldn't there be a warning or status light to indicate when the prop blades are in feather position? My sincere condolences to the families who lost loved ones. 💔🙏
There is an announciation in the Primary Flight DIsplay stating the engine is in feathered mode. They apparently both missed it.
Wow, how sad. Just shows again, no matter how much experience you have, never ever grow complacent. Everybody makes mistakes. Some just has a heck of a lot more consequences than others.
Murphy always shows up at the worst possible times. Gotta be prepared. Complacency kills.
Especiall, women where the do not belong!
OMG...neither pilot notices that both engines are FEATHERED! !???? With no other "emergencies" going on its hard to believe that experienced pilots can FATALLY screw up so badly......
..60 seconds, practically no altitude is very small recovery window. Why not "go around" at 1st mention of no power ? Maybe she was attempting to when applied full power.
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Watching this video was heartbreaking. What a horrible accident. Im very sorry for what happened & send condolences to all the families. R.I.P. to those who lost their lives that day.
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@@FinalFlash-xn4we What purpose does it serve to call me a brown nose when all I did was compliment a great channel that you obviously watch too?
Is it because nobody has given you a great compliment in your lifetime?
Brown nosing is done to get something you want and I’m not wanting anything but mean people like you to disappear.
They are a great channel and you must agree or you wouldn’t watch them.
If I were to say you are the greatest person on earth would you call me a brown nose then?
Jealous much?
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I hope someone will give you a great compliment so you can turn around and call them a brown nose.
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Life is so important, yet it can cease in an instant. There's too much sadness in the world.
So horrible that it seems avoidable (if feathering was a failure then another failure had to have prevented the flaps extending), I can only imagine what it's like to be the pilot under instruction flying towards total catastrophe second-guessing herself when she appears to have done everything right 😥
From what I understand of this theory, the flaps did extend to 30 degrees, shortly before the crash. The problem was that the second time the flaps were supposed to be adjusted (from 15 degrees to 30), someone moved the condition levers instead (causing the feathering and loss of torque). Neither pilot noticed the feathering but, at some point upon descent, the flaps were again manually adjusted to 30 degrees (perhaps thinking they were adjusting to 45 degrees). So this theory implies that, apparently, there was no human or mechanical failure of flap adjustment. However, this was pilot error. Of course I could be completely wrong about my interpretation. I'm not a pilot and have no idea how to fly a plane.
The report was tragic, but it was very cool to see what was actually happening when the props feather. Never seen that before.
The plane crashed in ravine, not on top of buildings as shown in the video.
Ah, I wondered if anyone was injured or killed on the ground.
This makes me angry, for a second not paying attention - such devastation.
Great videos, so well made !
Tom, Brussels.
Human error is the one thing that you cannot eliminate, by training or otherwise, from any flight. Familiarity breeds contempt, and the failure to verify flaps down or take action as the loss of power became acute are symptoms of an assumption that everything was actually alright, when it wasn't. This crew was not in control of their aircraft and failed to communicate effectively with each other when things started to go wrong. A terrible accident that could have been avoided with better cockpit discipline.
I always appreciate the format, graphics and analysis of this channel. Thank you 🙏 RIP to all souls lost. 💔
Why the aircraft doesn't have some sort of warning light & tone for "propeller feathered" is beyond me, but would have saved them. She knew that the engines weren't producing thrust, but couldn't figure out why.
It does, the aircraft was giving them a master warning/caution light that the video said was extinguished 2 times while they were in the turn to final. They ignored the warnings
@@mooshdaddy123 true. My wild guess is someone silenced the warning out of reflex. 😪
The plane tried to warn them with a master caution. Guess they thought it was the " low toilet paper in the restroom" alarm.
😢 I am so bummed out now. I want to try and save them, and I can't.
Thank for the professional update. My heart go out to all.
I enjoy watching the Mayday disaster on tv, I use enjoy hesitantly as obviously watching people die is never a good thing, it’s the afterwards where you see all the hard work put into discovering why anything went wrong in the first place.
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I don't normally like these simulated videos but this one is so well done
Just WOW. From the moment they mentioned her story and her husband and kids, I was literally in a trance watching this one. Kinda like the Alaska Airlines and the El Al High Rise. This is just so sad and terrible. Not one parent-but 2! This one's gonna stay with me for a long time. For real, how did the BOTH propellers feather?? Did you guys see the difference between the flap handle and the two feather handles? Can't wait for the update. I really hope a go fund me is set up for those kids. 😥
Their poor child must have been so nervous about mom flying after dad died in a crash...nightmare all around. God rest all souls involved.
Very sad. Seeing that flight attendant take that video of herself and knowing it would be the last photo of her young life really stays with you. R.I.P
Yeah..?
How long did it really stay with you tho?
Before you forgot about it?
Til the end if the next video.. lets be realistic
Even as a passenger it is easy to tell when flap settings are increased because there's a perceptible reduction in aircraft speed (and in the passenger cabin, noise). How does a pilot not notice that engine torque (and thus thrust) has gone to zero? Despite the proximity of the controls, is the motion required to extend the flaps by ten degrees really similar to that needed to fully feather both engines?
Engines still made torque and noise; they kept advancing the throttle. A little hard to hear and distinguish up front in tense moments. Also there are often alarms buzzing for non urgent situations so they may supress.
@@BoomVang still is there a system on the airplane to show the torque readings, and feathered condition. Thru reading they could have just brought the feathered props to the original position???
..another video shows differences between them- flaps is a single large WHITE sliding handle ; feather control is 2 black knobs you have to lift up from underneath before they will slide. Like,
nearly impossible
to feather unintentionally unless completely
distracted or multi tasking
Wondering same. Once you figure out there's zero torque from engines, first though would be "damn, are the engines feathered?". Then next step would be to look at the feather lever and think "yes, this lever is in feather position I need to undo". Extremely straight forward. I suspect the Captain was suicidal and did all these intentionally, no other way can explain this @@VivaanArora-bh7pn
I believe that flying an airplane is no different than operating other equipment in terms of "feeling or sensing an unusual change". When you change from thrust to no thrust you feel a change in the aircraft. When you add power, but yet feel nothing there's a problem. I've been on passenger planes where a change in power feels as if the plane if coming to a stop. You have to have instincts.
Yes, when it slows down for the first time it feels like it's hovering.
Is there a reason why it is possible to feather the propellers even when the engines aren't at idle?
Good question. How us that even possible, or necessary ?
One of the more tragic ones. Well done.
Wow, if this is confirmed by the final report, I would be really shocked. Such a mistake by the PM. Feel sorry for all the souls lost and their families..
I shall always remember the sheer terror that ran through me while flying from Pittsburgh, PA to Cincinnati. Upon approach, the pilot throttled the engines down so abruptly that I though we'd fall from the sky. Seriously, it felt as if we were floating in air. How was it that neither pilot felt the loss of thrust? It makes no sense to me that they were completely oblivious to what was happening.
Without context one cannot know. The way you describe it it was likely very different from the case in the video - and likely intentional.
If you were high enough above ground plus flying above the desired glide path it could've been an intential maneuver to get rid of some energy / altiude in a short time to get back down onto the glide path.
Sometimes airliners get short cuts to the airport with less track miles than the official approach path. Then you can accept but as a pilot you must be sure to get rid of the altitude in a shorter time.
However at 1000 feet above ground the approach must be stable; any maneuver like that below 1000 ft AGL would normally mean "approach not stable" == mandatory go-around. Whatever the actual situation of your flight was, we cannot know like that.
if you were flying on a Turboprop that sudden deceleration was likely the Condition levers being advanced forward or high rpm . Just the opposite of feathering or low RPM which is the sound you hear at parking or shutdown when we move them to Feather/ cutoff.
Pilot flying did and mentioned it twice...considering this was her flight test, she may have been timid to challenge her tester that everything was ok.
@@diambo4life yes, and the pilot monitoring (the check pilot) was a total failure in many ways obviously.
But the video narrator only mentioned master caution warnings that the pilots dealt with, (it seems the "continue landing" question, asked twice, referred to that).
No "low speed" or "low altitude" issues were ever mentioned nor noticed, so the pilot flying might not have been aware either.
Because pilots are sometimes stupid and full of themselves
I'm sitting here sobbing for the pilots, crew, passengers and the joy of flight now lost to the families and friends of those who are gone.
They have slipped the surly bonds of Earth and forever dance the skies on laughter-silvered wings...
Stop talking nonsense
@@kittyk.klandasions7008 You're saying not a single person on that plane was missed by friends and family? Nobody was sad because they died?
Uh... okay. I guess you'd know.
Hi new subscriber I just want to say your channel has amazing visuals..I have a question is that using drone footage? Not the visual effect like when the plane is in the air but when they were almost at the airport.. it looked extremely really..the airport,buildings, houses, just everything on the ground? I am so sorry for the lives that we lost that day and my heart goes out to all the family and friends 😢
The pilot being monitored seemed to know something was wrong well before the crash, but the instructor pilot seemed to dismiss concerns. Did he turn off the master caution alarms? That's what I took from this video
its amazing to me with all the redundancy on passenger variants, that there is no fail safe for this. im pretty familiar with the atr, and this is one of those things that you didnt think youd need a procedure in place for, until an incident happens.
My thoughts exactly, like the issues with reverse thrusters in decades past (though, admittedly, those buggers deploying mid-flight were worse). Surely, there needs to be a warning to pilots that the engines are feathering or some more obviously different lever/movement (another commenter astutely pointed out the PM was probably not used to sitting in the left seat, so subconsciously confused the 2 levers, thinking he was sitting on the right seat as you'd normally be if PM). Terrible tragedy, I hope these poor people didn't endure much pain.
If the manufacturer can't rely on the pilot being aware enough to pull the correct lever (unlike a five year old kid) then the cockpit would just be a mass of "fail-safes" and there'd be no room for seats.
@@austindarrenor It is a mass of fail safes, that's what makes flying so safe. This is such a strange attitude, a pilot did pull the wrong leaver (as has occurred in previous accidents) because people _make mistakes_ . I don't see how simply having contempt for an individual solves anything, indeed, it just allows more accidents to happen because we end up doing what sub-par airlines do and what manufacturers often used to do (and still do, on occasion): blame the pilot. It solves nothing, maybe makes you feel chuffed with yourself, looking down on someone who's erred...? I have no idea. Perplexing and counterproductive (and un-empathetic). Training is part of it, but so is design within the cockpit (e.g. making the feathering a more unusual movement, like reversing in a manual car) and these critically important fail-safe redundancies that you seem to detest. Baffling.
@@skullsaintdead Safety Improvements in Air Travel are based on the mistakes of others, some of whom paid with their lives.
@@austindarrenor it already is a mass of fail safes. why do you think theres three ways for them to do almost anything they need to ? as for this incident, human beings get complacent. probably done it a million times as an f.o, not to mention every time he lets his f/o fly the arrival.. mistakes happen. only difference between you or i hitting the wrong window switch in our cars is that were not gonna die after we do.
considering the levers are extremely close in proximity. he is trying to watch his trainee, probably thinking about every other scenario that could have happened, other than this one.
I flew on that exact aircraft from Kathmandu to Pokhara 8 weeks before it crashed.
Aviation is an excellent example of the highest levels of human endeavour. The expertise of pilots is the most outstanding and endearing part of this, the ability to work and think professionally, to analyse situations with multitudes of variables in short time frames is mind blowing.
Ironically commuter jets and myself are not friends, I have massive anxiety about them, but you'll always find me watching these videos in order to get insights on what went wrong.
I rather be slowly turned into a fly by going through a teleporter to be honest..Jeff Goldblum style...
Being a pilot always looks like a very hard job to me, so many things to check in a very short space of time, and if u miss just one of them u are dead with all the passengers. Another terrible loss 😢
@karlwithak. Yeah this isn't true at all.
@karlwithak. So why did it crash then?
Agree. I couldn't imagine consistently taking on that kind of stress as a career. Great pilots are a different breed.
Thats why next to the profession of dentists, pilots are number one in suicide rates due to the stress level.
the condition levers are much bigger and have longer detent range… and there are 2 condition levers… on the other hand, flaps lever is smaller and it is only single lever… that PM must have been very badly distracted if he pulled the wrong lever
Very badly indeed. I would like to know if the CVR indicates they were rushed and behind the airplane, or otherwise having trouble with the flight path or speed control for this approach. Perhaps the instructor was too focused on correcting errors by the PF and let aircraft state drop from his awareness.
Engine failure on a Turbo prop is frightening I've been on 1flt before considering i flew as Cabin crew for 36years i know what the Cockpit crew were feeling when going Down May they ALL Rest in peace,,
Was the instructor pilot careless or overconfident?? So tragic, when she knew something was going wrong and turned it over to her instructor it was too late and he STILL didn't double check to make sure everything was okay. It's actually incredible to souls were lost on the ground. RIP to all souls lost. Thank you for another great presentation!
Careless
It was her fault. Who let women fly planes?!