2023 BMW R1250R SE - FIRST RIDE REVIEW
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 22 มี.ค. 2023
- Hi Everyone!
Thanks very much for tuning in and viewing!
This is my next new bike review and this time I'm out on the - Brand New 2023 R1250R SE.
I was really looking forward to this one especially as I own the 2019 version of the R1250R.
I hope you enjoy the review and of course if you have any comments or questions or then please do let me know.
Big thanks to SYCAMORE MOTORRAD in WITHAM once again for letting me take this bike out.
If you are Essex based and interested in this bike make sure you get down to SYCAMORE MOTORRAD in WITHAM for a test ride.
www.bmw-motorrad.co.uk/sycamo...
Actual build of Bike I rode today - Copy and paste this link into your browser:-
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BMW official press release on the new R1250R
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Until next time... Ride Safe.
0:01 Intro
0:44 Good Morning Everybody!
1:55 Fast Road Riding
11:45 In Town Riding
13:40 Through The Traffic
19:24 Bike Walk Around
24:12 TFT Screen
30:41 Back On The Road
35:08 0-60
37:15 Quick Down The Lanes
43:50 Overtaking
44:20 Summary
50:05 Signoff
50:56 Credits
51:28 2019 R1250 V's 2023 R1250
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Thanks for this. I’ve just paid for a 2023 3k miles R In racing blue and I can’t wait for next week to collect it. Thanks again.
Hi Brian, great choice and low miles! Wishing you much joy and safe fun & adventures on your new machine!
Thanks for watching… Ride Safe…
Great review - really enjoyed it and very very informative, thank you 👍
Hi Rob,
Thanks for watching and for your kind comments. Hope you found it useful and of course, when you are out next please ride safe!
Great to see a current R1250R owner compare it against the new year’s model. Me, I plan to keep my ‘20 R1250R until the rumored R1300R appears.
Hey Buddy, good to hear from you, I hope your keeping well. Yes like I said, I won’t be changing mine as not enough reasons. For 1200 owners thinking of changing its worth it I think but if you already have a 1250, push pause I think for now, especially if a more changed motor is on the way.
All the best and keep safe out there!
Appreciate this vid immensely as it looks like I’ll be trading up to this bike from my current 1200R as I literally cannot find a bike I’d rather own. The Mandello being the latest challenger to disappoint. The subtle extras do make this final version just about perfect (for me!)
Cheers.
Hi Alan, that sounds like high praise indeed thanks very much! I suppose nothing is totally original and we are all products of the things we see ourselves. Thanks for watching and commenting and being a part of this community.
All the best best!
It's an interesting motorbike fully kitted out . Brilliant review 👏
Hi Gus,
Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment. The dealers always make sure the demo bikes have all the bells and whistles so when you buy one you want all the goodies on top! Your feedback is very much appreciated and I’m glad you enjoyed watching.
All the best and when you are out next … Ride Safe!
I completely agree. Rode it. It was on my list as my new machine in 2023. After I changed my mind and went with something else. :) Can check my test ride of the 2022 model and other videos. You may like them.
I test rode the same sports model at my local BMW dealers last week prior to placing my order for a R1250R. I had it for 3 1/2 hrs and did 60-70 miles. I agree with your comments about your wrists, I found exactly the same with my wrists and shoulders. They had began to ache so was glad to hand it back to the dealer. I've ordered the ice grey with higher bars so it will be more of an upright riding position & more comfy.
Hi Ian, That’s a proper test ride! When I got my first R1200R I took it out for literally 25 minutes and was straight back to the dealer to order one! All the best…
Thanks for the Chelmsford Tour, cannot believe how much it has changed since my Marconi aprentice days, I think only the original door remains for a plaque! Stayed during the week in 27 Primrose Hill, that is my uncles original 1960's garage about to fall down, the mk1 cortina long gone. Grandparents lived in new retirement bungalow in Writtle, walking distance to Chequers pub. Last time driving through my father 'new the home town roads' so well we went wrong way down a few one way streets!
I have had the older R1200R 2013 and since had 2 R1200RS, 2015/2017 and not sure if next will be the R1250R or RS but no heated seat for me. I prefer the taller 'sport seat' for added comfort, better leg angle and no toasty bits on a long trip.
(at 18:40 - my first crash! 1970/Yamaha Yas1 in sight of the railway bridge - new rider, teflon japanese tyres, poor brakes! I wonder if the original dealership still exists) so unable to travel from Benfleet, hence local family help. The Geaves factory (motorbikes & Invacars) at the end of the road also 'long gone' from thundersely.
Glad I swopped Ilsington and Dartford for Islington and Dartmouth, except when taking a tour to europe but plenty of space in south devon for a winter ride before all the holiday makers clog up some routes.
Hi Dave,
Thanks for your recollections and for watching.
Glad that the video took you down memory lane!
I loved my old R1200R and to be honest there is still not much between that bike and the 2023 model.
All the best and when you are out next… Ride Safe…
@@TheWrittleRider My 'old' R1200R was the first bike I took to Norway, and they say "you can't tour on a roadster?" It was my first trip that far north, arctic circle,Lofoten etc and was perfect. 3 other trips there on the RS and 65/70mpg with help of 50mph limits but still the R1200R was the one that made the memories. Even got a published tour report in MotorcycleSport&Leisure, shame that Covid screwed so many extra trips!
Thanks for the video, I’m actually interested in the fared version, the RS, but I think I’ll wait for the 1300 to be released (quite happy with a 1290 v3 for the time being) ✌️
Hi Giovanni,
Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment.yes the 1290 is an awesome engine, and of course I love KTM!
The RS is very similar only the steering and handling into corners is different and of course it’s faired.
Slightly more sporty riding position also .
Thanks again for taking the time to comment and when you’re out next, please do, ride safe!
Thanks for the review. You've saved me a test ride. I'll be holding onto my 2019 R1250R.
You were instrumental in my purchase. Cheers
Hi Diddy Dad,
Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment.
I’m glad the review was of use for you and I agree if you are on a 1250 already, unless you have money to burn sticking with what you have for now is probably the right decision for most.
Thanks again, glad to be of service.
All the best and when you are out next…. Ride Safe!
@@TheWrittleRider
I have a fully loaded bike like yourself. Does the 2019 model have Dynamic Brake Control (DBC) as the 2023 model?
Thanks
Hi DD, The 2019 model has a dynamic brake light but not DBC.
Cheers
Thanks for your reply.
Can DBC be added as a software update?
@@didaddy I’ll find out and let you know …
The more I see of this bike, the more I want it over my deposited 850 GSA hah… dangerous, as I need to carry a pillion and cargo on long commutes…. Thanks for sharing!
Hi APS,
Thanks for viewing and taking the time to comment.
The step up to the 1250 engine would be a joy for you I promise!
It’s probably the most user friendly +1000cc naked bike available today and the ride quality and assurance is second to none, other than perhaps a GS.
If money is not an issue go and grab a test ride and see for yourself.
All the best and when you are out next… Ride Safe.
The R1250R 2023 doesn't have a lot of changes. The lights, the option for the heated seat and some other minor changes... but, what it really matters is, that it is still a very good bike. For the 2023 it just needs a bit more lively colors I think. Great review. Enjoyed it a lot.
p.s. I agree... a very underrated bike also in my opinion. Got my like Writtle.
Hi RRR, thanks for your comments and for watching. All the best and of course when you are out next Ride Safe!
@@TheWrittleRider You are welcome. You to bro, ride safe.
I just rest road a R1250R , coming from a 10 year old Harley Davison I still thought the engine felt agricultural. You seemed to like the quick shifter but I thought it wasn’t very good as I test road a S1000R afterwards and it was miles better. I still think I will test it again for longer as I have always wanted a boxer twin. Cheers Chris
Hi Chris, thanks for watching and giving your own thoughts and feelings on this. The S1000R Quick Shifter would be smoother because it’s not a boxer engine. I also understand that the boxer could be thought of as agricultural especially when compared to other smoother engines. I’m not and have never been a sports bike rider and I know the shifters on those bikes are very smooth. What I would say is that if the demo bike did not have many miles on it then the shifter could have needed a few more miles to bed in. Earlier this year I rode a KTM Super Duke GT and the quick shifter literally didn’t work, so could be the set up. I love the ease of the ride and the fact that the bike is literally awesome no matter what type of ride I am out on. That said, it’s not a popular bike and people do often choose the S1000R instead. It’s overlooked as far as I can see, but we all have very specific likes and needs and maybe the lack of a beautiful engine tone is a deal breaker for you, it definitely is not the best sounding bike😁.
Would have been nice to see it out on the lanes but aside from location, the review was excellent. I'll be keeping my K1300R until the R1300R comes out then consider a switch.
Hi MTW, thanks for watching and for your comments. Apologies if I didn’t catch the lanes on this one. I did a longer review on my own 2019 R1250R which I’m sure has some lanes on that vid. The bike is pretty much the same as the 2019 model apart from a slight updated image. Good luck with the changeover once the 1300 comes out.
All the best and ride safe…
Cheers pal, you too. I'll give you the nod next time we meet, I'm sure 😉
Amazing bike. unfortunately very underestimated and underrated here in S Korea.
It’s also underestimated here also… this bike and lack of coverage was why I started my own channel! Thanks for viewing and for your comments, all the very best, Ride safe
Nydelig sykkel, men jeg er strålende fornøyd med min 2020 Hp utgave. Om BMW kommer med en R1300R eller noe råere, så skal jeg vurdere å bytte. Oppgradert min med komplett Akrapovic, looking good 😎
Fikk kjørt hele 20.000 km sist år. 4-6 uker til ny sesong, raring to go
Ps; kjører i dynamic pro hver gang
Hei Jan,
Takk for at du ser og kommenterer.
Så glad du er enig om denne fantastiske sykkelen.
Jeg håper den nye sesongen blir flott for deg.
Kjør trygt min venn!
th-cam.com/video/8FtytRl-cP0/w-d-xo.html hatt en mc tur på vestlandet… på min andre tur nå. Blir mer Lofoten og Vesterålen resten av sesongen. Blir ikke å bytte motorsykkel i år, denne er jo sykt rå 😎
had a 2020 1250r, traded it for a 22 s1000r and now going back to a new 1250r... no substitute for that bottom end grunt
Thinking of hopping of 2013 FJR1300 for one of these
Wait for the 1300 that will be towards the end of this year…
That truck was a scaffolding truck which has the right to park there and was not selfish just doing their job. Great review btw
Hi Simon, thanks for watching and your kind comments… yes I understand about the scaffolder’s lorry, but it did make the junction dangerous none the less.
All the best and Ride Safe!
Torn between this and the RS. Wondering if I need the faring. What made you choose the 1250 R over the RS?
Hi Michael,
Thanks for watching and for your question. So first things first the bikes are almost identical apart from.
1. Riding position - slightly more forward on the RS, more relaxed on the R.
2. RS corners better no question.
3. The fairing
Other than that they are the same as far as I am concerned.
The the question is really which seating position do you like more and do you need the screen?
If you ride all year in all conditions then the RS is the bike I think.
What I would do if your seriously considering both, is talk to BMW and ride the bikes back to back. Take your time, go for a couple of hours on each bike. BMW are going to make a sale so they won’t mind.
But, after the test rides if you are not convinced on either then walk away.
I didn’t even ride the RS until I owned the R so I didn’t chose the R over the RS, I just didn’t actually try the RS. That said, I do prefer the R.
I don’t ride all year so don’t need the fairing though and also I prefer a more upright riding position.
Hope this helps.
All the best and when you are out next Ride Safe…
@@TheWrittleRider thanks so much for the comprehensive reply. Your detailed review definitely helped me decide. I want a more straight up if not relaxed riding position to keep weight off of my wrists (a factor on long rides). That coupled with the fact that I do like the look of the R vs the sport bike look of the RS will lead me to the R. And I can always add a "minimalist" windscreen if need be.
Thx again!
Hi Michael, really glad I could be of some help for you, I hope you have many thousands of miles of fun on the new bike.
Great Choice!
All the best and Ride Safe!
Roadster, naked, hypernaked, underrated, blah blah. Forget all that old carp. The R1250R is just an excellent bike.
Yep…. Totally agree 👍
Left and right signals are not self cancelling are they?
Hi Philippe, yes they are self cancelling but I don’t ever wait for them to cancel just in case 😟… thanks for your comment and for watching. Take care and Ride Safe!
I'd remove that sat nav cradle. Get a phone mount and that would be that.
Hi Nick, thanks for watching and giving your comments. Yes the Nav cradle is a bit bulky and the Nav is very expensive. I’ve used it a few times on long journeys and it is nice to have it right in front of you but as you say a phone and mount will be fine & will save you a about £400-£500!
All the best and ride safe.
I have a 2021 but the only thing that bothers me, is the vibrations when going over 5.000rpm. Dealer says it's normal, but it's pretty easily felt in the bar, the seat, the pegs. Below 5.000rpm it's very creamy. Maybe it's a boxer-thing?
@lapinobel - I own the 2019 model and dont share the experience of the vibration over 5000rpm, that said I dont ride it very hard and at 6000 rpm you are breaking the law in any gear! I love mine and would not swap it for the 2023 model. Waiting for something else to catch my eye perhaps... but nothing by BMW, Triumph or KTM can beat it yet... in my humble opinion!
@@TheWrittleRider Yeah you're right, it's the perfect bike (kinda). I really can't fault it for anything, it just does anything SO SO well...except make my heart jump when I look at it, like my previous Z900RS, and Triumph Bobber did. So I'm selling it, and going to get a Speed Twin instead. Great looks, fun bike, more than fast enough and something that always catched my eye.
I am in the process of selling my GSA 1200. In all honesty, I don't know why I bought it. I fell for the trap on the GS group. It's too big, boring, and just unnecessary for road riding. I'm 27, bought the GS 4 months ago and have done 300 miles on it 😂.
I'm yet to ride the 1250R, but this will instantly be the replacement. I love the boxer. Just not the GS. I'm not to keen on the RS, as it comes across as an old man's sports bike.
I want sonething plenty quick enough, can still tour and has shaft drive whilst it won't be my out n out weekend toy. I'll still use this more than the 'toy'.
I want to get the 23 model with the updated light. However, I'm just wondering when the 1300R is released? Will it be the back end of the year or perhaps 2025?
Thanks for the fantastic review.
Hi @ Inked,
Thanks for viewing and sharing your experience and thoughts.
I would say you must be one of the youngest riders to have bought a GS and definitely in your age group the GS is possibly not that popular. image and Pricing possibly being the two main reasons.
I agree for road riding the GS is not a necessity but I do love them and the 1300 is totally different in almost every way (in case you have not been on one yet).
I still own my 2019 R1250R and I love it for all reasons ( commuting / Touring / Country Lanes ) and I know you will love the bike.
The 1300 will probably show up on the 2025 model I expect and I would say it’s worth waiting as the new 1250r is not really much of an upgrade to my 2019 model and, contrary to many reviews, the Jump between the 1200 and the 1250 is not really that much.
Wait for the 1300 and Enjoy!
Ride safe and all the best…
@TheWrittleRider Thank you for your reply. Yeah, I was indeed a young GS owner. Without sounding to disrespectful to GS owners, I personally think it's a retirement bike. Just my opinion. I think adventure bikes are a scam. The 1300GS was quick, but it was 22k, which is bloody ridiculous.
Whilst I could buy a R1250r 2019 for 8k, it doesn't come with a warranty, which is a big thing for me.
So could I get your thoughts please.
10k for a 2019 1250R Sport with all options 5k miles.
12.5k for a 2023 1250R, Triple black and 2k miles.
I'll be buying outright, so I won't be tied down when the 1300R comes out.
@inked-96 Your comments on the GS make me smile, also Yes they are very expensive and at £22k for the new one well… it’s insane!
Now as for the choices, I own a 2019 R1250R sport with all the bells and whistles and it rides exactly the same as the 2023 R1250R.
Questions to ask in order to decide (baring in mind both bikes will ride identically.
1. Do they both have quick shifters?
2. Does the 2019 bike come with a warranty (including the battery)
3. Is the Battery on the 2019 bike sound because they cost £180 fitted and this bike does need a perfect battery as it’s a big engine to start - mine died after 2.5 years)
4. Which one do you prefer the look of?
5. Do they both cost the same to insure & Service and run?
6. Do both bikes have ESA?
7. Do both bikes have same modes (road / rain / dynamic / dynamic pro)
If it was me and I preferred the look of the 2023 bike… I’d go for that one so long as the extras were what I wanted…
@TheWrittleRider The 2019 bike has every option ticked. Esa, quickshifter, etc. Comes with BMW approved used warranty(2 years) and is £10,000 wirh 5k mileages.
The 2023 is the SE, so all options, triple black, £12,500, 3k mileages, and again, 2 years approved used.
I'm just trying to justify the extra expense, especially when the 1300R is coming in 2025? I'd like to get your thoughts from someone who has more experience
Would I likely lose more on a 2019 model or the 2023 model?
Ok so you are asking all the right questions.
On the depreciation I would say there should not be too much in it.
Although potentially the 2023 model will be less desirable when the 1300 comes out at that point whereas the older 2019 model will be less affected by the new model release.
In general a new bike depreciates 20 - 25% in the first year, then by about 15% year two and the 10% each year after.
I’ll let you do the math for the two R1250Rs you’re looking at.
Here is a useful article I found for you to copy into your browser.
www.bennetts.co.uk/bikesocial/news-and-views/advice/buying-and-selling-a-bike/used-bike-depreciation-when-to-buy
There is also a part of me saying just hang onto you money and the GS for another season and then get the 1300.
Which ever bike you go for if you buy now you will lose money on in the short term, But if you hang onto the GS now, it wont depreciate much more over the 1 season and then you still have got plenty to put towards the 1300.
I know what it’s like to own a bike that you don’t like and want to get a new one so it’s very tough to be sensible. But buying another bike just for one season is only gonna end up losing you money.
Just my sensible thoughts for what it’s worth.
Good luck with your decision and whichever R1250 you go for (if you still do) you will love I am sure.
All the best
With the exception of the new headlight, colours and heated seat it is identical to the the 2019 model. You used the word similar so many times its misleading it's the same bike!!
Yeah, exactly. Not changed a lot. I agree. :)
Hi David, yes you are right, I did use that word about 100 times! It’s identical except for the facelift I make you right.
Hope you are keeping well, thanks for watching and commenting.
All the best
enjoyed except----guys guys guys why people use that word is beyond me
Hi Hawkslayers1, thanks for viewing and for giving your feedback.
I’ll try to use the phrase less 😃.
I don’t plan my dialogue it’s all just made up as I go along (apart from the bike walk around where I do have some stats in front of me) so I do know I may repeat myself a bit!
Thanks for viewing and please do Ride Safe when you are out next.
All the best…
"promosm" 💦
That's a stupid price but typical of BMW.
Hi Matt,
Thanks for viewing and giving your opinion. I suppose when you look at the direct competition they are not miles away from the monster, the Superduke or the triumph speed triple. If you are comparing to Japanese bikes then yes of course it’s over twice the price.
It’s always the base price is almost ok and then you add ESA and keyless ride and the luggage and then it’s the same as a deposit on a house!
Essentially it’s a dream bike, but if your willing to go for a low mileage 3 to 4 year old model the 10k might just do it… still not cheap but more possible.
All the best and Ride Safe.
@@TheWrittleRider The cost isn't the issue the competition is 16k gives you far better alternatives.
Hi Matt,
To be honest having been on almost all of the bikes in direct competition I prefer the 1250 over all of them (just my own opinion and preference here). When price is not the issue people choose what they prefer and there is lots of choice in almost all levels of motorbikes these days so that’s great. Just as in with cars, sometimes you get so much more in the car with a certain manufacturer than you would with another. A good example there is Skoda and Audi, the prestige is different but they are the same company, and slide gives way more for the price than Audi.