I’m sold. I’ve been replacing a lot of my tools with grizzly. I just bought their 40th anniversary 2hp 17” bandsaw for my shop. Every time I use it I have a smile on my face….lol
Hi Mike, I'm someone much like you that loves his vintage tools ... especially my planes, chisels and perfect handle screwdrivers, and have perfected my routines to make them beautiful and useful again. Also like you, I have tried every manual way to try and create a new primary bevel in all of them, and the time it requires is insane. I have to admit, the fitness of my arms and hands has increased substantially, but at our age, that may be a finite resource. Thanks much for doing this review and being candid about how well it does for your uses. It just so happens that there are a lot of us out there with the same requirements that you have and this just saved me a lot of time and money to correct the problem that I've fought for years. Thanks for taking the time to do this video, it really is worth your efforts to us ... cheers and good health to you and yours. Cheers, Dave
I am most impressed with the fact that you have quality tools, but you care for them in the manner in which they deserve. Life lesson when you have something special...take care of it.
Sir, you are a pleasure to watch. Coming from me, who I am giving a real hard time to most you-tubers for how the talk, and act, means a lot; trust me! Also, I love the fact that you're not asking for subscribing and liking, even before the person knows if he/she will like it or not... Thank you for that and know that I did like it and I subscribed. I'm a tool nerd myself and I appreciate 100% your way of treating tools, which is very similar to mine. Enjoy your retirement for as long as you wish and don't stop making enjoyable videos.
Hi Mike I'm Canadian and have owned a Tormek for many years. Bought it when they first came out. It has served me well. The only disadvantage was the price. At the time, as an introductory special they included all the attachments Tormek made, so I bought. Let me say this to you and your watchers. From what I just observed you doing on your Grizzly, it should grind just as well as my Tormek and for a great deal less expensive... 1/3 the price! I'm sure your 'You Tube' presentation will benefit many people. Nicely done!
Great review!! I am retired like you so $ budget also. I have an older version of the Grizzly 10" also & here's what I found vs Tormack. 1. Support rod/tooling guide rod O.D. is the same as Tormack -- 12 m/m so all Tormack tooling will work on the Grizzzly ---- better quality, more choices, ex. your plane holder guide bushings --- check Tormack's --- note the difference. 2. Stone O.D. surface finish 225 vs Tormack 220(?)/1000. Is gotten by using Tormack Grading stone. Again will work on Grizzly stone also. 3. Guide Adjustment Nut --- CAN'T SWAP GUIDE RODS FOR TORMACK'S !!! CENTERLINE SPACING BETWEEN RODS IS DIFFERENT!!!!!!!!!! BUT INSIDE ROD CAN BE THREADED FOR A NUT TO DO THE SAME THING. It also can be tapped on the end for end stop with a 6 m/m bolt to act as end stop for tooling so you don't go off the end. 4. I think shaft O.D.. 's for the stone is the same -- so you could use replacement Tormack stones if you wanted to ---- again more choices BUT MORE $. 5. All Tormack Angle Gages, hone paste, will also work. This also includes Tormack truing diamond tool. Like you said its a good tool for the $ and can be used even more with the above items just for your info. Again like your maint. program for your planes --- trying to do same to mine especially your finish on them. Mike
Thanks for the extensive review - which is so much better than Grizzly's own infomercials on youtube. I am very interested in this wet grinder and after watching your video I will probably buy one.
SmooveBeeze Smoove. I like mine and use it a lot; especially when truing a damaged edge. For me well worth the buck and a half. The $700 for the top shelf is way out of my budget range. I just don't sharpen that much. Thanks again and good luck
Mike's DIY Projects & More Thanks, Mike, for stopping by and leaving the nice comment. For the price, I hope you like yours as well as I like mine. Good luck
Nice nice video just what I needed to see and hear.I was wondering in what should a get but you cleared my mind and definitely I'll buy a Grizzly.Thank you for a great video. (3C Woodturning)
just bought a scheppach tiger 250 with a 10 inch wheel. fixed a trashed chizel in about 15 minutes, very important to make sure the chizel is square in the guide and the correct angle is set. once setup is done its easy. Tormak has some nice addition's and fine adjustment and better quality guides, but I dont think the double of the price. Tormak is a quality tool but in Australia your looking at just over $1000 plus guides, schappech $450 with a 4 guide set.
Well Done Young Man.A very balanced and concise view of your opnion of both machines.By balanced I mean MONEY Lol..If it does the job,Let the people who can afford it buy one,simple.Unlike me,I am in the same boat as you,Besides which is does Grate to spend monies I really cannot justify for what little I will be using it.. One little nicety I did observe was the two pronged REST,Does have a STOP on it, Basicly it is threaded with a hieght nut.. When I get mine,Which incidently will be another machine,The SCEHPPAC 2000s. I will be threading mine on one side,so it doesn't drop quickly to the bottom of the steel legs..Well adjusted ,,,carefulll BUTTON DIE Should do the trick..I was a Tool Maker anyway by Trade,Now Retired like you.. Anyway Thank you gor your interesting view of the modern era catching us both up.lol.
Thanks Mike... Originally I wasn't considering this machine based on those flimsy bushings & a not very well machined main shaft assy that spins in those cheap bushings. On the other hand, the Tormak starts around $419 I believe and is a bit pricey for the amount of use I would get out of it. I am still doing my research on wet grinders & I will reconsider the Grizzly after watching your thoughtful video on this unit. Thanks, Bill on the Hill... :-)
Trying to decide between this machine and the WEN version. WEN seems to have a better machine but the grinding wheel on this one as I've seen in other videos also seems to be better.
nice video,my budget is even less than yours,hence i just got the 8" version yesterday, i made the mistake of trusting the stops on the tool guide,now i have a slight skew on bevel,the wheel wore alot for 1 sharpening,when i washex the water tray out i got a whole handful of blue residue, i found it easy to flatten the wheel using an old sharpening stone that used to come with survival knives in the 80's. does your wheel wear that quickly. i really enjoyed using a properly sharp chisel for the first time. thought i was good hand sharpening,this definitely humbled me a bit.
there is a stone grader for grizzly as well and also I bought the scheppach tiger 2000s and I had the same wobble message and they also have a stone grader I think it is the same product but in a different suite
Lezlie Brian I'm not familiar with the Scheppach. Might be the exact same thing. The Grizzly has a lot of German words on the gauge. Not sure that's a clue on where it was built. Thanks for stopping by and leaving a comment
Hello, Broncort1. It's not bad. Since it grinds at a very low grit, I use it mostly for damaged blades or grinding a different angle. Norton stones and Veritas guide is how I get them real sharp. Thanks for stopping by and taking time to leave the comment. All the best
nice video,my budget is even less than yours,hence i just got the 8" version yesterday, i made the mistake of trusting the stops on the tool guide,now i have a slight skew on bevel,the wheel wore alot for 1 sharpening,when i washex the water tray out i got a whole handful of blue residue, i found it easy to flatten the wheel using an old sharpening stone that used to come with survival knives in the 80's. does your wheel wear that quickly. i really enjoyed using a properly sharp chisel for the first time. thought i was good hand sharpening,this definitely humbled me
Hey, Chad. Every time I use the Grizzly I too get sludge in the water tray. I've used the machine for many hours and the wheel Is only 1/4 inch less. At that rate this wheel should last for decades. The wheel on mine grinds to only 250 grit. I use it mainly to grind badly abused bevels and to make sure all is square. Afterwards I like to increase the sharpness by using a 1000 & 4000 water stone to really put an edge on. The grinder really works well and I hope you like yours as much as I do mine. Thanks for stopping by and leaving the comment. All the best
I’m sold. I’ve been replacing a lot of my tools with grizzly. I just bought their 40th anniversary 2hp 17” bandsaw for my shop. Every time I use it I have a smile on my face….lol
Love your passion for not only collecting but your attention to detail and precision.
Hey, Charlie. I appreciate you stopping by and taking time to leave the kind words. All the best to you...
Hi Mike,
I'm someone much like you that loves his vintage tools ... especially my planes, chisels and perfect handle screwdrivers, and have perfected my routines to make them beautiful and useful again. Also like you, I have tried every manual way to try and create a new primary bevel in all of them, and the time it requires is insane. I have to admit, the fitness of my arms and hands has increased substantially, but at our age, that may be a finite resource.
Thanks much for doing this review and being candid about how well it does for your uses. It just so happens that there are a lot of us out there with the same requirements that you have and this just saved me a lot of time and money to correct the problem that I've fought for years. Thanks for taking the time to do this video, it really is worth your efforts to us ... cheers and good health to you and yours. Cheers, Dave
I am most impressed with the fact that you have quality tools, but you care for them in the manner in which they deserve. Life lesson when you have something special...take care of it.
Sir, you are a pleasure to watch. Coming from me, who I am giving a real hard time to most you-tubers for how the talk, and act, means a lot; trust me! Also, I love the fact that you're not asking for subscribing and liking, even before the person knows if he/she will like it or not... Thank you for that and know that I did like it and I subscribed. I'm a tool nerd myself and I appreciate 100% your way of treating tools, which is very similar to mine. Enjoy your retirement for as long as you wish and don't stop making enjoyable videos.
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Hi Mike
I'm Canadian and have owned a Tormek for many years. Bought it when they first came out. It has served me well. The only disadvantage was the price. At the time, as an introductory special they included all the attachments Tormek made, so I bought. Let me say this to you and your watchers. From what I just observed you doing on your Grizzly, it should grind just as well as my Tormek and for a great deal less expensive... 1/3 the price! I'm sure your 'You Tube' presentation will benefit many people. Nicely done!
Hey, Bruce. Thanks for taking time to leave a comment. To you, all the best.
Hi Mike, there's plenty of us poor folks out there. Thanks for showing us this budget-priced grinder. Love your planes by the way.
Great review!! I am retired like you so $ budget also. I have an older version of the Grizzly 10" also & here's what I found vs Tormack. 1. Support rod/tooling guide rod O.D. is the same as Tormack -- 12 m/m so all Tormack tooling will work on the Grizzzly ---- better quality, more choices, ex. your plane holder guide bushings --- check Tormack's --- note the difference. 2. Stone O.D. surface finish 225 vs Tormack 220(?)/1000. Is gotten by using Tormack Grading stone. Again will work on Grizzly stone also. 3. Guide Adjustment Nut --- CAN'T SWAP GUIDE RODS FOR TORMACK'S !!! CENTERLINE SPACING BETWEEN RODS IS DIFFERENT!!!!!!!!!! BUT INSIDE ROD CAN BE THREADED FOR A NUT TO DO THE SAME THING. It also can be tapped on the end for end stop with a 6 m/m bolt to act as end stop for tooling so you don't go off the end. 4. I think shaft O.D.. 's for the stone is the same -- so you could use replacement Tormack stones if you wanted to ---- again more choices BUT MORE $. 5. All Tormack Angle Gages, hone paste, will also work. This also includes Tormack truing diamond tool.
Like you said its a good tool for the $ and can be used even more with the above items just for your info.
Again like your maint. program for your planes --- trying to do same to mine especially your finish on them. Mike
Hey, Mike, I appreciate you taking time to leave all this great info for improvement. Thanks again and all the best to you...
Thanks for the review-good stuff
Thanks for the extensive review - which is so much better than Grizzly's own infomercials on youtube. I am very interested in this wet grinder and after watching your video I will probably buy one.
SmooveBeeze Smoove. I like mine and use it a lot; especially when truing a damaged edge. For me well worth the buck and a half. The $700 for the top shelf is way out of my budget range. I just don't sharpen that much. Thanks again and good luck
Great video Mike, Im probably going to pick me up one as well, especially having watched your nice video.
Mike's DIY Projects & More Thanks, Mike, for stopping by and leaving the nice comment. For the price, I hope you like yours as well as I like mine. Good luck
Its a no brainer ! Thanks for showing it !!! Now i have to make the decision weather or not to get one .
Nice nice video just what I needed to see and hear.I was wondering in what should a get but you cleared my mind and definitely I'll buy a Grizzly.Thank you for a great video. (3C Woodturning)
+Carlos Berrios Hey, Carlos, I hope you're as happy with yours as I am with mine. thanks for stopping by and leaving the comment
just bought a scheppach tiger 250 with a 10 inch wheel.
fixed a trashed chizel in about 15 minutes, very important to make sure the chizel is square in the guide and the correct angle is set. once setup is done its easy.
Tormak has some nice addition's and fine adjustment and better quality guides, but I dont think the double of the price. Tormak is a quality tool but in Australia your looking at just over $1000 plus guides, schappech $450 with a 4 guide set.
Well Done Young Man.A very balanced and concise view of your opnion of both machines.By balanced I mean MONEY Lol..If it does the job,Let the people who can afford it buy one,simple.Unlike me,I am in the same boat as you,Besides which is does Grate to spend monies I really cannot justify for what little I will be using it.. One little nicety I did observe was the two pronged REST,Does have a STOP on it, Basicly it is threaded with a hieght nut.. When I get mine,Which incidently will be another machine,The SCEHPPAC 2000s. I will be threading mine on one side,so it doesn't drop quickly to the bottom of the steel legs..Well adjusted ,,,carefulll BUTTON DIE Should do the trick..I was a Tool Maker anyway by Trade,Now Retired like you.. Anyway Thank you gor your interesting view of the modern era catching us both up.lol.
Great video Mike, thanks for sharing it.
Thanks Mike... Originally I wasn't considering this machine based on those flimsy bushings & a not very well machined main shaft assy that spins in those cheap bushings.
On the other hand, the Tormak starts around $419 I believe and is a bit pricey for the amount of use I would get out of it. I am still doing my research on wet grinders & I will reconsider the Grizzly after watching your thoughtful video on this unit.
Thanks, Bill on the Hill... :-)
I appreciate your video. I ordered one last night. I also ordered the truing tool to true and round the stone with.
Hey, Warren. Thanks for the comment. I hope you like yours as much as I like mine. Good luck
Mike enjoyed video. A question. Have you heard of anyone sharpening drill bits on the outside face of the stone? cr
just got mine and playing with and so far I love it.great video
Thanks, John. For the money, I think it works pretty darn well. Thanks again for taking time to leave a comment
I oil up my plains with gun oil, after putting them away. They never rust, & I live in East Texas, which on average is between 40%-60% humidity.
Trying to decide between this machine and the WEN version. WEN seems to have a better machine but the grinding wheel on this one as I've seen in other videos also seems to be better.
nice video,my budget is even less than yours,hence i just got the 8" version yesterday, i made the mistake of trusting the stops on the tool guide,now i have a slight skew on bevel,the wheel wore alot for 1 sharpening,when i washex the water tray out i got a whole handful of blue residue, i found it easy to flatten the wheel using an old sharpening stone that used to come with survival knives in the 80's. does your wheel wear that quickly. i really enjoyed using a properly sharp chisel for the first time. thought i was good hand sharpening,this definitely humbled me a bit.
I woulda slipped into a coma if it hadn't have been for the saucy trollop on the calender.
thank you l lean a thing or two
I have one of these and the flanged bearings are junk. I will be installing new oilite bearings soon.
there is a stone grader for grizzly as well and also I bought the scheppach tiger 2000s and I had the same wobble message and they also have a stone grader I think it is the same product but in a different suite
Lezlie Brian I'm not familiar with the Scheppach. Might be the exact same thing. The Grizzly has a lot of German words on the gauge. Not sure that's a clue on where it was built. Thanks for stopping by and leaving a comment
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Well, at least it sounds as quiet as a Tormek.
Hello, Broncort1. It's not bad. Since it grinds at a very low grit, I use it mostly for damaged blades or grinding a different angle. Norton stones and Veritas guide is how I get them real sharp. Thanks for stopping by and taking time to leave the comment. All the best
That's a good price for a 10 inch whetstone.
UreaSmith And it works darn good for the price. Thanks for the comment.
no edit, my machine came with grizzly guides.
if you are interested I have 200 worksmith magazines I want to give away. I live in palmdale. if you want the mags come get them. let me know
Wtf this guy has way to much time on his hands😅
Too much fkn rambling babble. Later
nice video,my budget is even less than yours,hence i just got the 8" version yesterday, i made the mistake of trusting the stops on the tool guide,now i have a slight skew on bevel,the wheel wore alot for 1 sharpening,when i washex the water tray out i got a whole handful of blue residue, i found it easy to flatten the wheel using an old sharpening stone that used to come with survival knives in the 80's. does your wheel wear that quickly. i really enjoyed using a properly sharp chisel for the first time. thought i was good hand sharpening,this definitely humbled me
Hey, Chad. Every time I use the Grizzly I too get sludge in the water tray. I've used the machine for many hours and the wheel Is only 1/4 inch less. At that rate this wheel should last for decades. The wheel on mine grinds to only 250 grit. I use it mainly to grind badly abused bevels and to make sure all is square. Afterwards I like to increase the sharpness by using a 1000 & 4000 water stone to really put an edge on. The grinder really works well and I hope you like yours as much as I do mine. Thanks for stopping by and leaving the comment. All the best