@@DiMagnolia Just missing a warm dim light, vague cold cigarette smell and having to yell smart concepts because the shitty music is too loud, and it's like I'm already there 😌 Also, you seem cool! (I hope it doesn't sound creepy hahaha)
I think the issue for me as a disabled person is that disabled ppl are always expected to perform to this "supercrip" standard or become inspiration p*rn to get their needs met and mr beast just reinforces that paradigm
Can you imagine being someone who needs this exact eye surgery and still can't afford it? I'd be like "yeah that's cool but there's like 50,000 of us also in line, why don't we get to have eyesight"
There are a lot of people who were helped in the process of making that video that weren't included in it, and it's more than probable he asked for full consent before sharing any of their stories. Sure, he's making money off them in a way, but that money's gonna find its way somewhere else real fast the way his content works.
i’m about 3/4 into this so it’s entirely possible this is the conclusion y’all come to as well, but i think the issue is less that mr beast is being performative or using philanthropy for profit - if he didn’t have the profit he couldn’t be as philanthropic, it’s a cycle that has to continue for him to keep helping people the way he is. i think it’s more an issue of the fact that capitalism has pushed us into a world where access to needs is not a given, and that being lucky enough for someone wealthy to have the power and good will to help you is one of the only ways a lot of people can have access to things that they need or should be able to have. jordan nailed it, the focus here shouldn’t be a critique of jimmy, but a critique of capitalism and the fact that it’s given him this almost godlike power to hand out something paywalled for most people. that’s the dystopia of it, and why this whole cataracts thing feels so “demonic” because nobody should have to be in a position where the only reason they can get a relatively simple life-changing procedure is because of the monetized charity of someone lucky enough to have wealth and power
I disagree only a little bit, as there are huge content creators who aren't performative about their charity but still donate the same or similar levels of money to charities. Technoblade and Matpat are huge examples, donating over a million dollars to cancer research in an effective manner without being weird about cancer.
this is a fair point, but he's also effectively able to turn ppl's disabilities into entertainment, which is pretty immoral bc if ur gonna help ppl, the least u could do is be respectful about it, it just cheapens the act to turn life-saving surgery into clickbait (on top of which, it's entirely possible that he can also get tax write-offs out of this kind of thing bc he films all of this for his job as a youtuber, although i'm unsure of the specifics)
Another issue I've seen the blind community express is the referring of this as "curing blindness". Blindness is still a long way from being cured and referring to this as that can be harmful.
I've seen that as well. I'm not team Mr. Beast at all. I see the logic, I'm just not entirely following because cataracts does lead to blindness. People who may have gone blind from cataracts now won't. I guess it's a specific instance/technicality, but it's not an incorrect statement in itself.
@No I believe the issue is that with the lack of knowledge about blindness in the general public, phrasing it that way implies that this fixes all blindness, or basically just gives people false assumptions about where medical science is in relation to blindness. Also, from what I've seen at least, cataracts isn't typically referred to as blindness in humans (probably because it IS a simple cure, and is closer to being an affliction than being built in).
yeah blind guy pete made a video about this because of the video people have started assuming his blindness could be cured and thinking there's some kind of magic surgery to cure his blindness when as of right now that's virtually impossible
I've said it in a reply but: the main things ppl are criticising are: 1) the sheer dystopian nightmare we live in where as Disabled ppl we have to rely on these rich saviours for basic rights and healthcare, and 2) the fact that there is a VERY common problem of organisations and individuals forcing Disabled ppl to 'dance' for them, or they will refuse to fund our healthcare, even in life saving situations. The way around this, that still makes him money, is to say he will fund it either way, but did ppl want to be in his videos (Disabled ppl are humans, he's gonna get ppl saying Yes) but it shouldn't be a requirement to get healthcare, esp from someone calling himself a philanthropist. Equally, he also could have donated the money to mutual aid or (reputable) charities, and asked them for spokes people. I think most people were criticising in good faith, myself included, but his response saying everyone hates him, and says he's evil, just shut down the conversation. Especially when talking to Disabled ppl about our needs and issues. Naturally there's gonna be some wild ppl on both ends, don't get me wrong.
I do also wanna add that I do like that he did turn around and take back some of the claims and acknowledge some of the issues capitalism causes for Disabled ppl. I'm not gonna give him too much credit there because it was after telling a bunch of Disabled ppl they were wrong, but it's more than most would do so yh!
He does need to make videos and do this kind of performance to actually make the money he makes in the first place, the money HE gets is essentially donation being made by his millions of viewers
I agree with a lot of what you said but there is something you said that I want to touch on. Is the whole "did people want to be in his video" and "forcing disabled people to dance". If you actually watch his video there were only like 15 to 20 people in it, and most of the people he recorded he only recorded their reaction AFTER the surgery, and they were only on camera for like 2 secs. The countdown he had kept going even when he wasn't showing us new people MEANING there were people who DIDNT want to be filmed who he still paid for.
As a European, this is so dystopian for me. It's not like I don't pay anything or that I can get an appointment with a specialist in the next week, but I am not restricted to get one. Health care is a lot, after income tax the highest you pay, but you also get health care when you don't get paid anything. I've been not able to work for a year now (because of mental problems) and with all the fears that come along with unemployment, I never feared about not being able to afford a doctor visit or go to the hospital and be in debt for the rest of my life. So, I struggle with really grasping the outcome this situation has, but I think it's especially disturbing that, just because he has money, he automatically gains these special powers. To heal people. To give them what ever they want and now even make them see again. It just sounds so wrong.
Its dystopian to me that you aren't fearful of going to the doctor 🤣😂🤣 I just got insurance for the first time in years and I STILL can't afford going to the doctors. I can't afford to take the time off of work to make an appointment, and most of the things I want to go to are considered "specialists" and not covered under insurance. Its so backwards hahaha
I'd just like to add that in the US, we also can't get an immediate appointment with specialists... Most are booked out for over a month, if they're even taking new patients at all. Similar with primary care physicians. The only real difference I see between us and countries with socialized healthcare is that we have to have money if we want to see a doctor..... Most of us Americans would rather call a taxi than an ambulance to get to the emergency room due to cost. It's a nightmare.
@@Sleipnirseight Yeah, to add onto that, most people book their next doctor/dentist appointment in the middle of their current appointment. People will book a year in advance. You'll cancel anything and everything before you cancel a doctor's appointment. And don't even get me started on ambulances. I've heard stories of people breaking their legs or whatever, and the first thing they say to any people nearby is "call 911! But don't request an ambulance! I can't afford that!" People would rather nearly bleed out or risk death than have to deal with the hell that is good ol' American medical debt.
one of the weirdest parts of mr beast videos are the thumbnails. like i understand that those are exactly the type to catch the eye of his intended audience, but on charity videos? he looks like evil supervillain at best, posing with insane smile near orphans and homeless people
So orphans and homeless people have a depressing stench now? Is that what you are saying, that ppl can smile around them cause their existence is so depressive that everyone around them has to feel that way too?
@@yellowmesh7821 this is obviously not what i meant. have you seen his thumbnails? expression on his face looks so fake and manufactured that it fits into pics of explosions and pranks and whatever, but in context with people in struggling situations it all seems distopian and kind of humiliating
I think what sets me off a bit is Mr. beasts approach in the video he centers around people's reactions rather than focusing on the bigger issue behind it all. People are unable to afford eye surgery is a serious issue and while I'm happy with the outcome of the video I wish along with the video he made for "clout", he made a separate one focusing more on people's stories and their experience with healthcare.
@@stoopddrawings3853 yeah that's a good point. If he exposed the issues inherent in the healthcare system/capitalism, I'm sure he'd be accused of pushing socialism on children or something, which is probably a much more damaging criticism to what he's getting now.
Also I hate to say it but most kids and viewers probably wouldn't watch it. Humanity prefers to be entertained than informed. If he put full conversations in the first video people would get bored and click off
people aren’t watching his videos for that reason so pushing that full on would have a negative affect, putting it in the manner that he is would work better overall as the topic is still there it’s just not the vocal point
Mr. Beast tweeted his response 3 days after he posted the vid. He also ran a poll asking people if they would vote him for president (when he's eligible, he's only 24.) Obviously he does good things but the vibes are indeed off. His audience of mostly children shouldn't expect insanely wealthy philanthropists to fix systemic issues. Their charity does benefit their brand/can be a tax write off anyway. I'm not good at articulating my thoughts but Tiffanyferg made a great deep dive about him yesterday. TLDR; orphan crushing machine shouldn't even exist in the first place
@@CleetusBilly Basically it’s a hypothetical situation. Having surgery that costs 3-7 thousand dollars to allow other people to see shouldn’t exist. The “orphan crushing machine” in entirely hypothetical. It’s obviously not something that should exist in the first place, just like paying that much money just to see
@@CleetusBilly The orphan crushing machine thing is from a tweet thread that starts with: "Every heartwarming human interest story in america is like "he raised $20,000 to keep 200 orphans from being crushed in the orphan-crushing machine" and then never asks why an orphan-crushing machine exists or why you'd need to pay to prevent it from being used."
Fun fact: cataracts surgery is said to have been performed as early as 600 BC by an Indian doctor named Sushruta It was super primitive compared to modern surgery, but yeah. People survived it. Sushruta also developed a lot of other stuff in the medical field, really interesting stuff
It's a shame that we don't learn more in our history classes about Indian and Middle Eastern contributions to things like mathematics and medicine. The Greeks didn't invent everything. They were often just the first white people to learn about it, which makes sense, given their geographic location.
@@bananawitchcraft When we do learn about non-white people, too often it’s about the struggles they’ve endured at the hands of white people (colonization, war, racism). Even the woke ones can’t stop making the story about themselves.
There's evidence going back to ancient Egypt, e.g. a tomb illustration dated to 2630 BC. Pretty wild! Obviously not as effective as modern surgery, but it's neat that the eye is an area you could do ancient medicine and not cause sepsis 🤔
Even though I don't know Mr Beast personally, I still have apprehension for anyone who idolizes Elon Musk. That says a lot to me, and I think it's fair to hold things like that alongside assumptions - at least to a small degree. This was a great convo to listen to (I'm glad sad boyz is back I love you guys making stuff together ❤️)
yeah, that was a weird one. I dont think he was doing it maliciously, but the lack of left awareness was surprising. He put himself in the position of the people the show were criticizing. You dont need more than surface knowledge about the theme and message of the show to see that his video was.. peculiar
While I agree that it was tone deaf and squid game is excellent commentary on people being willing to throw their lives away to escape poverty, squid game as far as I know did nothing to help people living in poverty while Mr Beast has donated millions to food banks and done tons of charity. I think his videos are weird and performance but he's definitely doing good.
@@jacobkalbfleisch5431 yeah exactly, he has done good, charitable things. But his game-showy videos aren't charity, they're exploitative. People don't stand in a circle for days because they find it fun, it's because they need the money, and (in many of his videos) they have to suffer on camera to get it
The problem I have with people getting upset over the squid game video is it tells me you don't watch his channel. He has MULTIPLE videos on his channel are just like the squid game one, just not as big of a production as the squid game video. He has multiple videos where he brings in multiple strangers, have them complete random challenges and the winner gets a HUGE money prize. The people who lose those challenges walks away with a couple thousand dollars.
@@ciciamanda. you know that they can literally leave if they want to right? Like they don't need to suffer that much. They chose to stay there. He's not locking them in
One of my biggest critiques of Jimmy revolves around not him as a person but capitalism in general, but one critique I have that is directed at him is his partnering with companies that contribute or perpetuate to the issues he's attempting to combat. Just as an example, in his video about cleaning the ocean, he partnered with coca cola, one of the top five contributors to plastic pollution. And in an old thanksgiving video, where he gave away a bunch of turkeys to families in need, he partnered with a company whose parent company has been called out for price gouging food and buying out competitors, making the very families Jimmy was trying to help unable to afford food on average grocery trips. It's a brand of philanthropy that's existed since the gilded age; its not philanthropy for the sake of helping, it's Philanthropy for the sake of advertising. It costs way less to pay a TH-camr to promote your brand through their philanthropy stunts than it costs to fund a massive advertising campaign. That's not to mention that Jimmy's brand of philanthropy takes away all the humanity its supposed to have, because it cannot happen without being marketed. I know many argue that's how each stunt is funded, but it's also incredibly dehumanizing. Majority of these critiques can for sure be directed at the state of capitalism we exist under, but it can't be ignored that Jimmy is actively neglecting responsibility in his philanthropy and is benefiting from the positive press. He's a big proponent of capitalism and the Protestant work ethic, you can get that just from the way he talks about TH-cam. That doesn't make me feel like he's doing any of this to highlight the problems within capitalism, but that's he's more pro "let's just let the good rich people deal with poverty".
I think this video is tonedeaf at most on its own. but when you combine it with his openly exploitative content (like giving a homeless man money and then pressuring him to show very personal aspects of how he lives "for the viewers") and the way he talks about analyzing the algorithm to make videos that get as many views as possible, it just kind of feels weird and disingenuous and dystopian. tiffany ferg has a great video going into it all
I’m glad to see these comments discussing the implications the video had for disabled people - too often we are forgotten. Just wanted to add - on an individual level, I am so happy that the people in the video were able to get a surgery that would dramatically improve their life! But on the scale of media, I am so sick of inspiration porn of disabled people. Many many blind people live perfectly normal lives as blind people and don’t need a surgery to ‘fix’ them, I say this as a Deaf person who struggles with the way society treats me but has literally no issues with my health or being. But media about us tends to depict us as something to pity and only ever celebrates us when we become “normal” like them. It’s really disheartening to see idea continue to be pushed over and over, especially to a new generation….
at 11:20ish you mention how most people involved in capitalism are apolitical and I totes agree; I once had a heated argument with my ex's dad about universal basic income and he was like "Well people should work for money!" and I was like "But what if in 50 years we've automated basically everything, what then?" and I could literally see his brain catch fire. The hardest part about diving deep into socioeconomic topics with people who just wanna work go home and have a beer is finding a way to connect with them.
I personally think the fact that he started nfts is very telling, particularly after team trees and team seas. It's obvious he just does what sells, and doesn't do it for the good of it.
I wish this whole thing had drawn more focus to the general inaccessibility the entire world has if you’re blind. One of my close friends is and until I lived with her I never thought about grocery stores or media being accessible to blind people, even now new shows aren’t audio described. there’s also the general poverty within the blind community because schools and jobs are often so inaccessible
I think a lot of leftist critique comes from something he said himself. He only believes in healthcare for Return on Investment - so basically only investing in this for more billionaire payouts. For people to "get back to work" (making more capital) instead of doing it just for them to live their lives. I wonder under his system if people would still get help if they are permanently disabled and cannot work. He wants to run for president so taking this into consideration is important
My brother is severely disabled (profound learning disability, can't speak or write, can't understand most things, spends his days with carers going for walks and watching Mr bean). I can't tell you the number of times someone has said to me that he shouldn't be allowed to live because he's a drain on society and will never contribute anything to humanity. I ask them what they're contributing that's so amazingly important to the world. They usually shut up at that point. But honestly, ask people to draw a clear line under what counts as being a productive member of society, and they struggle. (What about retired people? Stay at home parents? Artists? Could society thrive without any of them?)
I'm a permanently disabled US citizen, never been able to work. I am able to get disability benefits (enough to live in toxic low-income housing), free (crappy) healthcare, free (crappy) therapy, and free (crappy) support services. I feel like most people can agree that cutting off all support to disabled people is morally wrong. However, the damage tends to happen more subtly, by cutting funding and denying services little by little. Which leaves people in situations where they are technically getting government support, but unable to have a decent quality of life.
Wait, that's not what he said. He said the government should be helping people, and EVEN IF all the government cared about was ROI, ... He doesn't only look at it from an ROI perspective, reread the tweet. He was commenting on how even from a financial standpoint if the government didn't care about helping people as they should, they would still have financial benefits, and it's true and that's something disability rights advocates talk about as well.
Yes he tends to focus more on capturing content and peoples reactions than spreading the word on big issues he tackles, like lack of accessibility for cataract surgery.
I always found MrBeast videos off-putting but I couldn't put my finger on what it was. I realised it was that most of his videos are game shows or competitions like wipeout, survival etc but people treat it as charity/altruism which is so weird to me. Like the video where they hunted 100 people in a mall is not charity or the guy that lived in a circle for 100 days, it's a game show with less regulations. And I did find the eye surgery video weird, but it was more when you put it into the perspective with his other videos. I am glad he is helping people and that those people got the chance to fix their temporary blindness. But with the rest of his videos, I can't help but view it like another game show where he used people in need to get views. I also do think he meant it as sincere but it did feel a bit off. Edit: fixed a typo
@@CleetusBilly I already explained why I felt that way. He usually never just gives it away it's a game show type thing. The contestants have to do something to get the money. That's not charity. Do you get what I mean? edit: don't get me wrong, I understand he helps people, like with the surgeries.
@Cleetus Billy he's not "giving away" he's using downtrodden people as content while they dance for his amusement and to the applause of millions of idiots kids
@@josefinarivia but he also gives to charity with food drives or run charity’s Ignoring that the “game show” stuff is just for the algorithm he makes way more money that way and it makes it more fun for the people also
especially as a poor disabled person, these comments have shocked me in the very best way. twitter was a damn nightmare about this. thank you so much for speaking up and making this. it means so much. and thanks to all your followers who reassured me listening and critical thinking aren't actually an extinct premise. also I'm TERRIBLY sorry for redoing this comment so many times, my tablet doesn't allow comment editing and... the typos.oh, the typos.
Mr. Beast content has always made me uncomfortable as a poor disabled person. I applied for government assistance in the US in 2020 when I was no longer able to work, we’re now in 2023 and it’s been crickets. Had it not been for the support of my family I’d be dead on the street. His and all other content like it absolutely exploits that. It comes across very squid games, black mirror, etc. if we had all our needs met, it could just be a fun game show. But these are real lives he’s profiting off of.
This. For me the worst thing is the gamification and sensationalisation of charity. Has he done it casually, without an exaggerated thumbnail, it would have been good. I've seen videos wear people do charity work and there's nothing wrong with that. But the way he did it feels really squid game-y and that's not okay.
@@spacetrashfallingdown I think it might be a bit because that's exactly how he gets the wealth he gives away though. I don't know too much about it so pardon me if I'm wrong. But I feel like he would give away money "for free" if he actually could do it effectively. It seems like a smaller piece of a bigger societal issue to me..
My perspective is that leading influencers are always doing performative SOMETHING and I would rather see that be sweeping acts of charity over it being pranks, or showing off things they bought, or exploiting their kids for clicks, etc.
This surgery fixes one specific type of blindness caused by cataracts, there are lots of other reasons for blindness. And it brings up the question of, if a complete cure for all blindness was truly available, would everyone want it? And then, would the people who chose not to still be treated with respect and care? Because disability is/can be an identity. I’m proud to be disabled, but if I had the option to limit some of my symptoms, I’d probably take it. And everyone should feel free to be able to make that decision for themselves, not just to feel forced into it because our capitalistic hellscape wants as many people back in the workforce as possible.
Nah I’m fine with personally attacking someone for being apolitical. I think the ability to be apolitical itself can only exist with privilege holding it up. It’s a privilege to not have to think about things critically. People actually being harmed by systems have to think about them. I don’t have any respect for people who don’t think critically about the world around them. I’m 22. I was thinking critically about the world around me in MIDDLE SCHOOL. His age isn’t an excuse.
I'm surprised this is the thing that has gotten the most criticism out of his philanthropic endeavors. IIRC, he's made videos where he goes through a drive-thru and just hands people money or makes people say "subscribe to Mr. Beast for $1,000." It feels, to me, much more "dance for my entertainment to survive" for something like that other than him paying for people's surgeries.
"He's not particularly political" the dude is friends with Gary Vee and shills cryptocurrency. He is a political actor whether he will acknowledge it or lie about it.
I don’t think you guys realize that he pretty much puts all the money he makes in his videos into another video, so that tax right off for business expenses would just go back to making another larger video or charity.
Who Mr. Beast is can best be summarized by a clip his team keeps trying to delete where he talks about doing a show where he has every age of person in a circle and last person to leave the circle wins the money. But they won’t have food or anything. And then he goes on to talk about, AND LAUGH, at the idea of elderly people dying for the money and how much that would get views. In collaboration with Donut media, when they went to “thank” Donut media for making a car, his entire team said, “people are going to love me for this” instead of thanking the team for all their work. Then later it cut to Mr. Beast saying thank you as a side remark. From the multiple failed businesses and bad reviews of the food Mr. beast has released. It’s clear that they don’t care about the message. This is all just a game to get more money and attention. So when it comes to helping differently abled or poor, what do we NEVER see with Mr. Beast? Follow up. Did he give people a free expensive car? Wow! Guarantee he didn’t help pay the registration or insurance. Did he plant lots of trees? Yeah. But didn’t do research to the areas they planted for if the ecosystem could handle the increased plant mass. Did they try to clean the ocean? Sure. But once that was done, the groups involved haven’t seen any more money. It’s turning charity and altruism into a business in the worst way. So when differently abled people need help. He’s not going to continue helping them when the screen is off. To me. That makes it all fake. Taking advantage of people in situations who CANT say no. And using them for profit. Think about it. If he hired them, he would have to pay them a salary and benefits. If he can just give 5 people $20000, it’s cheaper than hiring and training 5 actors. Think of it this way. If I “gave 10 random strangers $10000 to build a house in one week!!” It would be cheaper than buying the house. It’s outsourcing the labor as “giveaways”. But he’s targeting people who can’t say no. His “helping disabled people” is “I paid 100 people $10000 each to make a viral video they get no royalties in and they need the money so they have to do it!” Because if they said they didn’t want to be filmed, they would not have gotten the money…
! Tbf As far as I’m aware he does help with post video payments like taxes and whatnot. In addition team trees is run by professionals who know where to plant what trees safely.
He has talked about how he makes sure he pays the taxes for those that get the vehicles. He also offers to buy prizes so people can get the money. He makes sure not to bankrupt people. TeamTrees was done in mind with organizations that specialize in where to plant the trees. People in his North Carolina community say he constantly is doing things that aren't on camera for the community. He studied TH-cam for over 2 years, every single day, for hours a day with a group of people dedicated to studying the TH-cam algorithm. Raised by a single, military Mom, he worked his butt off to get what he has when he was diagnosed with Chron's Disease. He did a whole interview with the doctor to talk about how it's crazy that people don't have access to this surgery. We always want influencers to use their platforms for good, and yet when someone like Mr. Beast does, he gets criticized for...helping people? Like, most people don't even watch his Philanthropy channel. And on Twitter, lots of people were actually hating on him simply because he is rich. There were lots of tweets criticizing him as a person directly that he shouldn't be helping people at all. But no one was talking about cataracts surgery before this! And all of the people complaining, how many have used their own earned money to help someone else? Mr. Beast is a minimalist. He's not even out here like Jake Paul with huge expensive houses and cars, etc. He basically lives in his house. Anyone who works for him and then they stop working for him, he makes sure they're good. He found something he likes doing: helping people. And to be in a world where you're criticized for helping people is just bizarre when that's what everyone claims they want. And now if you're rich you shouldn't help people? Damn. He didn't say anything derogatory about people who need cataract surgery; he simply highlighted about 20 - 30 people, which means the vast majority in the video weren't even shown on camera. Even in his private jet video, he made sure he used a site to set off his carbon footprint that the private jet did make and would make.
I watched the video and one thing that really performative and over the to was when he bought a kid a Tesla. Basically he bought this kid the surgery so he could see then bought him a Tesla so he could learn to drive. If that happened to me I think I would be so overwhelmed thinking oh sh*t I really cant mess up driving bc I have this super expensive car. Also he essentially forced the kid and his family to pay a bunch of upkeep for this car and if they live in a bad area that car could get stolen
Why does that green jacket make Jarvis look so good!! Love this style of pod too, glad Jordan is here!! (Or not right now, but glad he’s able to come back more)
While I agree, but I don't think he was doing it for that reason. I just think he's doing it because the first philanthropy video did super well, and he wanted to keep doing it, but because of the titanic nature of those videos, and the fact that's his main income source, he's sort of forced to make content out of it, or turn it to a lower level, but he's known for crazy acts of charity, so lesser acts would make it seem like he's getting greedy, even if it's still a sizeable amount
I am suspicious of most “celebrities” who are publicly philanthropic. I don’t watch his videos, but I am of the opinion that if it was TRULY about charity, he’d donate quietly. Ex. Giselle from Aespa quietly donated to an animal charity and was only found out when the charity made it public. She didn’t go around bragging about donating that money. I can’t help but think celebs who document it are keeping it as “proof” for the IRS when they inevitably write it off on their taxes.
@@ecliiipsssse I think this is what more people need to understand. Whether it was performative and uncomfortable or not the video has almost 100 million views, that ad revenue has gotta go a long way to funding the next charity project
If Mr. Beast were to “donate quietly” he’d legitimately have no money left to donate. All the money he makes on his videos goes right back into making another video. He can’t make more money to donate if he doesn’t make it into a video. He has to keep upping the size of the content and making it entertaining to make more money to donate. While he does donate quietly, he won’t be able to ever donate nearly as much if he stops making them videos.
People kind of overplay the "Mr beast loses money on every video" at the end of the day he is making money. He has a bunch of buisnesses that are making money and growing, the main channel losing money is marketing spend, he's growing his brand filtering people into projects that do make money.
I guess the overall discomfort for me when it comes to philenthropic charity, is that the best thing Mr Beast could do to help these people out is just not be so fucking rich. Charity only exists inbetween the canyon of wealth disparity
sometimes i feel like people are too carried away being radicals who say "lets not criticize the individual, lets criticize the system instead! capitalism ooo" while ignoring any form of accountability. mr beast is complicit, individually, directly, to the exploitation of marginalized people. it is one thing to be a rich person pretending to give to charities to better your image, and being complicit by participating in an oppressive system. it is another thing to not only take advantage of your privilege, and making a business out of making a SPECTACLE out of those who are disenfranchised at the expense of your wealth, and claiming moral purity while doing so. if he really wants to give back for the sake of other's wellbeing and "just because", he wont make these people battle each other, have to be publicly exposed to millions (sometimes even their personal stories), etc. and become "super (insert marginalized identity)" among their peers to deserve help.
tldr; stop saying "the issue isnt mr beast, its the system that allowed this to happen". its both. no one was "forced by circumstances" to make a youtube career out of filming unconsenting orphans and making them do a humiliating "fun" game with their welfare on the line.
Also Jimmy is not a blind person. He is a white rich dude with a you tube channel in which he produces an entire video about him being the saviour. While he does say we are curing 1000 blindness. Infact even just saying the number feels like he’s showing off . Yes I’m happy for those who got their eyes fixed but seriously no 😅
my perspective on this is, good for mr beast for providing that access to the surgery for people who were previously unable to get it, but the fact that a third party had to come in to finance that procedure rather than the government just taking care of its citizens is shameful and dystopian. i'm also deeply uncomfortable with the narrative of "disabled people being fixed" that's been amplified by his video, because although the people in the video wanted that procedure, there are still plenty of blind and partially sighted people who may not want that surgery, and that's their business. the problem is that the option to have the procedure is not there for people who want it and can't afford it, not that blind and partially-sighted people are broken without it.
i have to say this iam watching jordan legs and my brain is just telling those legs are going to be so numb after this video i cant imagine sitting like that for long periods of time
I saw a blind creator talking about this (blind surfer if you're wondering), who critiqued more the misinformation such a click bait-y title gave. I do recommend looking him up to get his take on it.
Something truly dystopic about super rich people making these millionaire donations is that they essentially have the power to decide who lives or dies based on who is going to get their money. And after making these donations, many people (not necessarily MrBeast) will use them as a moral highground and justification for having their money. Because they use them for "good", they are "one of the good ones". But whether they are good or not, nobody should have so much money that they would never be able to spend it all and nobody should have to depend on some rich person to decide they're feeling generous to get access to such basic needs
I have more specific problems with Mr. Beast, but overall, I really hate the capitalist system that he's a symptom of. He makes money not because he's exceptionally "useful" to society, but because he can game the system and because he has money, that means he can choose people to essentially be worthy of living by giving them money or something they can't afford. And it's not like they can't afford it because they "deserve it" less than he does, but because capitalism is an inherently unfair system in which some people must "lose" by no fault of their own.
To be honest I was pleasantly surprised at Mr. Beast's statement. Like the Boyz say, I have patience for him if he didn't fully think about the implications of this, and intended it partly as a commentary but the idea wasn't full formed. I'm optimistic for him that he took feedback well and will hope that he continues to be more explicit about using his position of privilege to call out those systems. (Am disabled and trans but to be clear, I don't intend this to contradict folks who take issue with other aspects of this - Those are valid points too!)
He's a rich guy who's into capitalism and money almost exclusively. He helped these people for content not only because he wanted to. If he had helped them and not used it for content that's one thing. But he made a cheesy thumbnail and used it for views essentially encouraging others to do the same. It's similar to people filming themselves helping other communities for views. In order for the people in need to get help they have to be filmed in a vulnerable moment of their life and be used for views/clickbait.
Isn't there an argument to be made that it's somewhat justified because this is how he gets the revenue to be charitable, to raises awareness to the problem he's "fixing" *and* to the charities that help fix them? If he wasn't this clickbaity he would've never made the amount of money necessary this fast to cure the blindness of 1000 people
@@themysticwarriorgal9465He most likely made it to bring awareness to both the problem that people don’t have access to such a surgery and show that he is also helping people with the money he gets from videos.
@@ynam.2622 but there r multiple ways to do this without taking advantage of disabled people. I hope all the money he made from the video he donated it to people that need it. Judging by his thumbnail I don't get the feeling that it's something done from the heart
This came out the exact hour I found out Mr. Beast is coming to my work lol. Wish I was gonna be there to get a read on him, but I won't be in. We'll see how that goes!
As far as I saw he gave one of the ppl cured a Tesla, something unnecessary imo, especially since I think there’s this precedent of ppl getting slammed on their taxes if they suddenly come into possession of a very expensive item like that, not to mention that money could’ve been used to help more ppl get the surgery but of course, then the video couldn’t have an exciting Tesla racing scene… I think it’s sad how the state of our capitalist society puts people in these types of situations where they’re being exploited for content by people like mr beast under the guise of charity and commentators are hesitant to call out the situation like it is, trying hard not to step on anyone‘s toes because they’re technically „helping“ people…
Ok, so your critique is founded upon a misevaluation if how Mr. Beast actually gives away prizes. He gets those high value items like teslas and private jets because they are more engaging for the video, but when he actually gives them away he presents a choice. The winner can accept the prize as is (and suffer the tax implications) or they can have cash, equal to what the prize can be sold for. While both options are devalued by the taxes that come with them, Mr. Beast is aware of rhat and works around the system to ensure that the winner actually benefits from their prize. He doesn't use the system to screw people over with taxes or anything. He's just performative for the purposes of the video.
I agree with the words coming out of Jordan and Jarvis' mouths, but it's hard to take them seriously with smooth motion enabled on my TV and Jarvis' mouth looks like an angry orange video.
My dad got a cataract surgery to prevent blindness and he had to wait and pay extra because he had abnormally large eyes. Good thing is we’re Canadian so it didn’t cost much in the first place. It just took really long.
He has plenty of videos where he gives away money and prizes to friends (who I assume are now employees) who repeatedly appear in lots of videos. I’m assuming he isn’t actually giving away any money in those videos so he gets the money from monetization and sponsorships from those videos which gives him the ability to do more of the actual giveaway videos. I don’t think he’s lying when he says he loses money from those actual giveaway videos but I don’t think that’s true of all of his videos. I think that’s part of the overall structure that allows him to grow and profit while still giving away a lot of money and things. Obviously other parts of his brand also bring in money separate from the videos but those elements really didn’t exist in the same way even a couple years ago.
If you have to do “performative” charity to continue to do charity, I am fine with it. Not very many people with that kind of funding and platform are doing anything at all. I would support someone who robbed the rich and gave to the poor so why wouldn’t I support someone who used some people to get views, if the views are what it takes to help those people.
His videos have always made me uncomfortable. But in a sort of “this is where we are in the timeline huh?” way. Because it is capitalism and I think we’re all forced to dance for capitalism in one way or another. You may as well try to do something good if you can. But he could probably treat it with a little more respect and dignity.
i dont think mr beast truly understands the critiques he's getting. to me, he's just a boy who was born and raised under capitalism, but never bothered to dig into what capitalism is and how it harms people and that there are alternatives, and ways to change a system. it seems to me like he sees capitalism as just the way the world works and has always worked, an unshakable construct that's as sure and steady as life and death, so he's simply operating in the matrix of it like there's nothing outside of it and the only way to 'win' is to gather resources and grow your business infinitely. he's said in interviews that he basically lives to work, there's nothing else he does, and that's very sad to me. it appears to me like the way he sees life is like a game of monopoly. i think it's quite terrifying that this is the way some people are. just unaware, ignorant, misguided and so, so powerful at the same time. he has influence over so many people - i know i used to blindly believe in him without realizing what he represented. i'm glad i've been alerted to this. i've been naively holding him in high regard when, shock horror, he's not the second coming of jesus f-ing christ tl:dr - i am dissapointed in myself for not realizing mr beast wasn't gonna save us all
TH-camrs often grow up in bubbles that don’t require them to consider the world outside themselves until they get an audience. Just consume their content without deifying them.
Jarvis has only had a significant TH-cam following in the last four years or so, before that he was just a programmer making the odd techy video for not many people. If he 'grew up in a bubble' I don't think it had anything to do with TH-cam.
I don’t get that. You start thinking about the world around 10-12, when you’re reaching puberty. That’s how it was and is for me. It is INSANE when people say to me that teenagers don’t know anything or that early 20 year olds don’t know anything. I’m perplexed. But at the same time I get it. The teenagers and young adults I see are very weak, conformists, and lame
I think Mr. Beast did really well for the situation. He did a good thing but dropped the ball on clearly acknowledging how fucked up it is that he was the one who had to pay for this medical procedure. Then responded to the backlash a second time with understanding? AND 1000 PEOPLE GOT CATARACT SURGERY! Even him slightly dropping the ball has brought on alot of good conversation about the state of Healthcare in the US and the world, not that that was his intention. But overall a positive outcome situation in my eyes. If we critiqued our elected officials and they responded like Mr.beast maybe we'd actually get somewhere.
The guy is mostly desperate for views, he himself admitted in the Joe Rogan podcast that everything he does is made to optimize his view count. And honestly, that's fine, to each their own. My biggest problem is that he is clearly grabbing a very systemic problem caused by capitalism and exploiting it for capitalistic purposes, had he done his charity in a more private manner or a less exploitative way I wouldn't be so disappointed at him
I mean, I don't really see that much of a problem. Look at it this way: Would you rather a world where EVERY rich person occasionally does random acts of charity for their own benefit, or a world where NO rich person does acts of charity at all?
@@NieR042 like I said, to each their own, It doesn't change the fact that this very specific act of charity was done by a young kid whose sole brand relies on getting the most amount of clicks and watering down his own content to exploit it up to its maximum potential. And tbh, I'm glad those 1000 people got to see again, that's objectively a good thing, no one is denying that. And it's not even one of the worst charity acts ever either, it's not up the with Ellen DeGeneres, Harvey Weinstein, Bill Cosby, JK Rowling or the Live Aid concert. Regardless, it's still a problem that Jimmy is not self conscious enough to realize that his video is way too exploitative for its own good and that there are better ways to do it
@@eliasmg9144 Another way to look at it, is that, by publicizing his acts of charity, he gets back money that he'll back into another act of charity for content's sake. Plus, other rich guys will start doing similar stuff for clout, but it's still helping people, so we really shouldn't mind
I know people will think this is not nuanced, but coming from a trafficking survivor who has had a hell of a time getting people to care about ending trafficking or bettering the lives of survivors, I really don't care about the selfish intentions behind helping people like those who have gone through what I have. As long as people start doing it and the people who need it get the resources and voices they need. The bar IS that low for compassion towards certain groups of people. At this point, just help people. Just. Help. Each. Other.
For me, the big issue is that the selfish intentions behind helping people tend to take the focus off the issue and put it on the celebrity. Like, with Mr. Beast videos, people are talking about Mr. Beast doing a good thing but if we all _really_ helped each other, we wouldn't need to have one rich guy doing a good thing for some people because we would support each other more in general, socially. I know this is big picture, but I hope what I'm saying makes sense.
it's the fact mr beast never calls out the system that makes it so these blind people that can be cured can't get the help they need. because that's the system that gives him a platform
Me beast isn’t the problem. The institution is. I don’t particularly enjoy the man or his content but he’s helping a lot more people out than “thoughts and prayers” are. I have bigger issues with these ceos and creators of Amazon and Tesla and other powerhouse companies that make more than most small countries gdps asking their patrons to donate on their behalf to world disasters. That’s the real issue
Yea, but it is kind of weird to me, to use people with disabilities as a way to either make money or to use them to show how good of a person you are. And while I do realize that in the end it’s a net positive, it still feels weird.
@@crathion4960 the way I see it people with disabilities are paying their own surgeries by creating revenue thru him and his massive audience...he's using his platform to keep generating money to probably cover for future endeavours that included helping other disabled people and thay gain visibility to their cause and ppl are actually discussing the health care problems. Is a win.
That's the system of capitalism, not an institution. I agree that billionaires are bigger problems than millionaires, but they're all essentially symptoms of the same problem.
As much as I feel that mr beast’s content is a bit off putting, I still cannot help but support him as he does improve so many peoples life. It’s just so dystopian
Mr beast is so surreal because he's like the most ambitious least creative TH-camr. Luke a lot of his video premises are kind of just bad ideas for a video and yet he succeeds in executing those bad ideas on such a level that it's a marvel in or itself. Like the squid game video it's not a good gameshow, I don't care about the contestants, there is no real drama, the whole thing feels weird and rushed but it's interesting because I want to know how he pulled it off
this comment section has made me feel so good. lol nice to know im not tripping for having issues with him as a person and how he went about doing this
I also think it’s a bit troubling to me that the whole premise is curing a disability. This specific thing is one thing but the appeal is “curing blindness.” Which, on the one hand, is blindness always something to be cured, if it were possible? On the other, this obsession with curing, with making someone as much like an a abled person as possible, can be a real distraction from the ways that you can realistically improve people’s quality of life, uk. I’m just dreading the day we get “curing 1000 people’s deafness!” and of course the documentary length responses deaf people are going to have are going to completely go unseen by most
The issue is that Mr Beast shouldn't be able to choose who sees and who doesn't. Yes it's good for those people who did get the help, but you have to realise most people won't, and he's making money off the power to "save" people from something our society can afford for them not to be plagued by.
You're right! So, let's spin the wheel! DING DING DING Sorry, Little Billy. Guess God doesn't like you that much! Choosing people is always better than choosing nobody (least in my opinion) He could save way more people, but then the surgery would cost exponentially more in preparation for the next batch of lucky guys. It isn't really Mr. Beast's fault for being charitable, nor for being rich. Using the logic of "he shouldn't be able to choose," the best course of action for him would be to just splurge an incredible amount of money on himself, therefore throwing his cash back into circulation and now everyone has an equal chance of getting themselves a Mr. Beast buck!
@@NieR042 I understand your angle, this is better than nothing, what I was trying to express is that it's quite cruel that this is the only way that people some people can have sight. Something so profound to the human experience. Fundamental even. It's just sad to think about. That's all.
this angle makes me feel like i’m hanging out with my friends but i’m too stoned to add to the conversation so i just nod along
I feel like I don’t know anyone at the party and these guys seemed cool so I sat nearby but I’m too shy to insert myself into the conversation.
@@DiMagnolia Just missing a warm dim light, vague cold cigarette smell and having to yell smart concepts because the shitty music is too loud, and it's like I'm already there 😌
Also, you seem cool! (I hope it doesn't sound creepy hahaha)
This is wayyyyyy to accurate
this is me with most TH-cam videos I watch 😂
it makes it feel like that even more if u really are high
I think the issue for me as a disabled person is that disabled ppl are always expected to perform to this "supercrip" standard or become inspiration p*rn to get their needs met and mr beast just reinforces that paradigm
Can you imagine being someone who needs this exact eye surgery and still can't afford it? I'd be like "yeah that's cool but there's like 50,000 of us also in line, why don't we get to have eyesight"
Once you stop looking for the negative in positives. The next part of your life begins.
Hope your mental health improves.
@@bassetts1899 maybe stop taking it personal.
THIS
There are a lot of people who were helped in the process of making that video that weren't included in it, and it's more than probable he asked for full consent before sharing any of their stories. Sure, he's making money off them in a way, but that money's gonna find its way somewhere else real fast the way his content works.
i’m about 3/4 into this so it’s entirely possible this is the conclusion y’all come to as well, but i think the issue is less that mr beast is being performative or using philanthropy for profit - if he didn’t have the profit he couldn’t be as philanthropic, it’s a cycle that has to continue for him to keep helping people the way he is. i think it’s more an issue of the fact that capitalism has pushed us into a world where access to needs is not a given, and that being lucky enough for someone wealthy to have the power and good will to help you is one of the only ways a lot of people can have access to things that they need or should be able to have. jordan nailed it, the focus here shouldn’t be a critique of jimmy, but a critique of capitalism and the fact that it’s given him this almost godlike power to hand out something paywalled for most people. that’s the dystopia of it, and why this whole cataracts thing feels so “demonic” because nobody should have to be in a position where the only reason they can get a relatively simple life-changing procedure is because of the monetized charity of someone lucky enough to have wealth and power
I disagree only a little bit, as there are huge content creators who aren't performative about their charity but still donate the same or similar levels of money to charities. Technoblade and Matpat are huge examples, donating over a million dollars to cancer research in an effective manner without being weird about cancer.
@@demetriam2408 oh for sure, there’s ways to do it without monetizing it, jimmy’s specific model just requires it i think
this is a fair point, but he's also effectively able to turn ppl's disabilities into entertainment, which is pretty immoral bc if ur gonna help ppl, the least u could do is be respectful about it, it just cheapens the act to turn life-saving surgery into clickbait (on top of which, it's entirely possible that he can also get tax write-offs out of this kind of thing bc he films all of this for his job as a youtuber, although i'm unsure of the specifics)
"For profit" he loses money on most video
@@sirspoonkm. he has multiple channels and wouldn't be able to continue if he just always lost money
Another issue I've seen the blind community express is the referring of this as "curing blindness". Blindness is still a long way from being cured and referring to this as that can be harmful.
Allowing people to see again portrays the message better but as we all know mr beast cares more about getting views
I've seen that as well. I'm not team Mr. Beast at all. I see the logic, I'm just not entirely following because cataracts does lead to blindness. People who may have gone blind from cataracts now won't. I guess it's a specific instance/technicality, but it's not an incorrect statement in itself.
@No I believe the issue is that with the lack of knowledge about blindness in the general public, phrasing it that way implies that this fixes all blindness, or basically just gives people false assumptions about where medical science is in relation to blindness. Also, from what I've seen at least, cataracts isn't typically referred to as blindness in humans (probably because it IS a simple cure, and is closer to being an affliction than being built in).
My exact thoughts here.
yeah blind guy pete made a video about this because of the video people have started assuming his blindness could be cured and thinking there's some kind of magic surgery to cure his blindness when as of right now that's virtually impossible
I've said it in a reply but: the main things ppl are criticising are: 1) the sheer dystopian nightmare we live in where as Disabled ppl we have to rely on these rich saviours for basic rights and healthcare, and 2) the fact that there is a VERY common problem of organisations and individuals forcing Disabled ppl to 'dance' for them, or they will refuse to fund our healthcare, even in life saving situations. The way around this, that still makes him money, is to say he will fund it either way, but did ppl want to be in his videos (Disabled ppl are humans, he's gonna get ppl saying Yes) but it shouldn't be a requirement to get healthcare, esp from someone calling himself a philanthropist. Equally, he also could have donated the money to mutual aid or (reputable) charities, and asked them for spokes people. I think most people were criticising in good faith, myself included, but his response saying everyone hates him, and says he's evil, just shut down the conversation. Especially when talking to Disabled ppl about our needs and issues. Naturally there's gonna be some wild ppl on both ends, don't get me wrong.
I do also wanna add that I do like that he did turn around and take back some of the claims and acknowledge some of the issues capitalism causes for Disabled ppl. I'm not gonna give him too much credit there because it was after telling a bunch of Disabled ppl they were wrong, but it's more than most would do so yh!
He does need to make videos and do this kind of performance to actually make the money he makes in the first place, the money HE gets is essentially donation being made by his millions of viewers
@@kv3416 as someone w crohn's disease, i'd say being blind is like.. a lot fucking worse and more impactful on ur life than crohn's lol not to compare
Haven't followed that story, but sounds like he's reacting like Elon Musk when justifiably criticized lol. Same kind the both of them in my opinion.
I agree with a lot of what you said but there is something you said that I want to touch on. Is the whole "did people want to be in his video" and "forcing disabled people to dance". If you actually watch his video there were only like 15 to 20 people in it, and most of the people he recorded he only recorded their reaction AFTER the surgery, and they were only on camera for like 2 secs. The countdown he had kept going even when he wasn't showing us new people MEANING there were people who DIDNT want to be filmed who he still paid for.
As a European, this is so dystopian for me. It's not like I don't pay anything or that I can get an appointment with a specialist in the next week, but I am not restricted to get one. Health care is a lot, after income tax the highest you pay, but you also get health care when you don't get paid anything. I've been not able to work for a year now (because of mental problems) and with all the fears that come along with unemployment, I never feared about not being able to afford a doctor visit or go to the hospital and be in debt for the rest of my life. So, I struggle with really grasping the outcome this situation has, but I think it's especially disturbing that, just because he has money, he automatically gains these special powers. To heal people. To give them what ever they want and now even make them see again. It just sounds so wrong.
Its dystopian to me that you aren't fearful of going to the doctor 🤣😂🤣 I just got insurance for the first time in years and I STILL can't afford going to the doctors. I can't afford to take the time off of work to make an appointment, and most of the things I want to go to are considered "specialists" and not covered under insurance. Its so backwards hahaha
@@chronicallyclaire2279 Are you okay?
I'd just like to add that in the US, we also can't get an immediate appointment with specialists... Most are booked out for over a month, if they're even taking new patients at all. Similar with primary care physicians. The only real difference I see between us and countries with socialized healthcare is that we have to have money if we want to see a doctor..... Most of us Americans would rather call a taxi than an ambulance to get to the emergency room due to cost. It's a nightmare.
@@Sleipnirseight Yeah, to add onto that, most people book their next doctor/dentist appointment in the middle of their current appointment. People will book a year in advance. You'll cancel anything and everything before you cancel a doctor's appointment.
And don't even get me started on ambulances. I've heard stories of people breaking their legs or whatever, and the first thing they say to any people nearby is "call 911! But don't request an ambulance! I can't afford that!" People would rather nearly bleed out or risk death than have to deal with the hell that is good ol' American medical debt.
@@Sleipnirseight + don't you guys have to go work after having a baby?
one of the weirdest parts of mr beast videos are the thumbnails. like i understand that those are exactly the type to catch the eye of his intended audience, but on charity videos? he looks like evil supervillain at best, posing with insane smile near orphans and homeless people
So orphans and homeless people have a depressing stench now? Is that what you are saying, that ppl can smile around them cause their existence is so depressive that everyone around them has to feel that way too?
@@yellowmesh7821 this is obviously not what i meant. have you seen his thumbnails? expression on his face looks so fake and manufactured that it fits into pics of explosions and pranks and whatever, but in context with people in struggling situations it all seems distopian and kind of humiliating
I think what sets me off a bit is Mr. beasts approach in the video he centers around people's reactions rather than focusing on the bigger issue behind it all. People are unable to afford eye surgery is a serious issue and while I'm happy with the outcome of the video I wish along with the video he made for "clout", he made a separate one focusing more on people's stories and their experience with healthcare.
Well his videos are more toward kids, so giving a explanation of social issues probably wouldn’t fit with his content
@@stoopddrawings3853 yeah that's a good point. If he exposed the issues inherent in the healthcare system/capitalism, I'm sure he'd be accused of pushing socialism on children or something, which is probably a much more damaging criticism to what he's getting now.
Also I hate to say it but most kids and viewers probably wouldn't watch it. Humanity prefers to be entertained than informed. If he put full conversations in the first video people would get bored and click off
people aren’t watching his videos for that reason so pushing that full on would have a negative affect, putting it in the manner that he is would work better overall as the topic is still there it’s just not the vocal point
Thats not his content though?
Mr. Beast tweeted his response 3 days after he posted the vid. He also ran a poll asking people if they would vote him for president (when he's eligible, he's only 24.) Obviously he does good things but the vibes are indeed off. His audience of mostly children shouldn't expect insanely wealthy philanthropists to fix systemic issues. Their charity does benefit their brand/can be a tax write off anyway. I'm not good at articulating my thoughts but Tiffanyferg made a great deep dive about him yesterday. TLDR; orphan crushing machine shouldn't even exist in the first place
@@CleetusBilly Basically it’s a hypothetical situation. Having surgery that costs 3-7 thousand dollars to allow other people to see shouldn’t exist. The “orphan crushing machine” in entirely hypothetical. It’s obviously not something that should exist in the first place, just like paying that much money just to see
@@CleetusBilly The orphan crushing machine thing is from a tweet thread that starts with: "Every heartwarming human interest story in america is like "he raised $20,000 to keep 200 orphans from being crushed in the orphan-crushing machine" and then never asks why an orphan-crushing machine exists or why you'd need to pay to prevent it from being used."
Fun fact: cataracts surgery is said to have been performed as early as 600 BC by an Indian doctor named Sushruta
It was super primitive compared to modern surgery, but yeah. People survived it.
Sushruta also developed a lot of other stuff in the medical field, really interesting stuff
It's a shame that we don't learn more in our history classes about Indian and Middle Eastern contributions to things like mathematics and medicine. The Greeks didn't invent everything. They were often just the first white people to learn about it, which makes sense, given their geographic location.
@@bananawitchcraft When we do learn about non-white people, too often it’s about the struggles they’ve endured at the hands of white people (colonization, war, racism). Even the woke ones can’t stop making the story about themselves.
There's evidence going back to ancient Egypt, e.g. a tomb illustration dated to 2630 BC. Pretty wild!
Obviously not as effective as modern surgery, but it's neat that the eye is an area you could do ancient medicine and not cause sepsis 🤔
Even though I don't know Mr Beast personally, I still have apprehension for anyone who idolizes Elon Musk. That says a lot to me, and I think it's fair to hold things like that alongside assumptions - at least to a small degree. This was a great convo to listen to (I'm glad sad boyz is back I love you guys making stuff together ❤️)
Now, while on the large part I agree that the blindness video wasn’t “making people dance for healthcare”
He did recreate squid games
yeah, that was a weird one. I dont think he was doing it maliciously, but the lack of left awareness was surprising. He put himself in the position of the people the show were criticizing. You dont need more than surface knowledge about the theme and message of the show to see that his video was.. peculiar
While I agree that it was tone deaf and squid game is excellent commentary on people being willing to throw their lives away to escape poverty, squid game as far as I know did nothing to help people living in poverty while Mr Beast has donated millions to food banks and done tons of charity. I think his videos are weird and performance but he's definitely doing good.
@@jacobkalbfleisch5431 yeah exactly, he has done good, charitable things. But his game-showy videos aren't charity, they're exploitative. People don't stand in a circle for days because they find it fun, it's because they need the money, and (in many of his videos) they have to suffer on camera to get it
The problem I have with people getting upset over the squid game video is it tells me you don't watch his channel. He has MULTIPLE videos on his channel are just like the squid game one, just not as big of a production as the squid game video. He has multiple videos where he brings in multiple strangers, have them complete random challenges and the winner gets a HUGE money prize. The people who lose those challenges walks away with a couple thousand dollars.
@@ciciamanda. you know that they can literally leave if they want to right? Like they don't need to suffer that much. They chose to stay there. He's not locking them in
One of my biggest critiques of Jimmy revolves around not him as a person but capitalism in general, but one critique I have that is directed at him is his partnering with companies that contribute or perpetuate to the issues he's attempting to combat. Just as an example, in his video about cleaning the ocean, he partnered with coca cola, one of the top five contributors to plastic pollution. And in an old thanksgiving video, where he gave away a bunch of turkeys to families in need, he partnered with a company whose parent company has been called out for price gouging food and buying out competitors, making the very families Jimmy was trying to help unable to afford food on average grocery trips. It's a brand of philanthropy that's existed since the gilded age; its not philanthropy for the sake of helping, it's Philanthropy for the sake of advertising. It costs way less to pay a TH-camr to promote your brand through their philanthropy stunts than it costs to fund a massive advertising campaign. That's not to mention that Jimmy's brand of philanthropy takes away all the humanity its supposed to have, because it cannot happen without being marketed. I know many argue that's how each stunt is funded, but it's also incredibly dehumanizing. Majority of these critiques can for sure be directed at the state of capitalism we exist under, but it can't be ignored that Jimmy is actively neglecting responsibility in his philanthropy and is benefiting from the positive press. He's a big proponent of capitalism and the Protestant work ethic, you can get that just from the way he talks about TH-cam. That doesn't make me feel like he's doing any of this to highlight the problems within capitalism, but that's he's more pro "let's just let the good rich people deal with poverty".
I think this video is tonedeaf at most on its own. but when you combine it with his openly exploitative content (like giving a homeless man money and then pressuring him to show very personal aspects of how he lives "for the viewers") and the way he talks about analyzing the algorithm to make videos that get as many views as possible, it just kind of feels weird and disingenuous and dystopian. tiffany ferg has a great video going into it all
I’m glad to see these comments discussing the implications the video had for disabled people - too often we are forgotten. Just wanted to add - on an individual level, I am so happy that the people in the video were able to get a surgery that would dramatically improve their life! But on the scale of media, I am so sick of inspiration porn of disabled people. Many many blind people live perfectly normal lives as blind people and don’t need a surgery to ‘fix’ them, I say this as a Deaf person who struggles with the way society treats me but has literally no issues with my health or being. But media about us tends to depict us as something to pity and only ever celebrates us when we become “normal” like them. It’s really disheartening to see idea continue to be pushed over and over, especially to a new generation….
at 11:20ish you mention how most people involved in capitalism are apolitical and I totes agree; I once had a heated argument with my ex's dad about universal basic income and he was like "Well people should work for money!" and I was like "But what if in 50 years we've automated basically everything, what then?" and I could literally see his brain catch fire. The hardest part about diving deep into socioeconomic topics with people who just wanna work go home and have a beer is finding a way to connect with them.
I personally think the fact that he started nfts is very telling, particularly after team trees and team seas. It's obvious he just does what sells, and doesn't do it for the good of it.
I wish this whole thing had drawn more focus to the general inaccessibility the entire world has if you’re blind. One of my close friends is and until I lived with her I never thought about grocery stores or media being accessible to blind people, even now new shows aren’t audio described. there’s also the general poverty within the blind community because schools and jobs are often so inaccessible
I think a lot of leftist critique comes from something he said himself. He only believes in healthcare for Return on Investment - so basically only investing in this for more billionaire payouts. For people to "get back to work" (making more capital) instead of doing it just for them to live their lives. I wonder under his system if people would still get help if they are permanently disabled and cannot work. He wants to run for president so taking this into consideration is important
@@urheehoo yea i just want blind people to live fulfilling lives with the resources to do so :(
My brother is severely disabled (profound learning disability, can't speak or write, can't understand most things, spends his days with carers going for walks and watching Mr bean). I can't tell you the number of times someone has said to me that he shouldn't be allowed to live because he's a drain on society and will never contribute anything to humanity. I ask them what they're contributing that's so amazingly important to the world. They usually shut up at that point. But honestly, ask people to draw a clear line under what counts as being a productive member of society, and they struggle. (What about retired people? Stay at home parents? Artists? Could society thrive without any of them?)
@@bassetts1899 agreed!! im an artist and also disabled and I want to have the money to care for myself even though i can't cure myself
I'm a permanently disabled US citizen, never been able to work. I am able to get disability benefits (enough to live in toxic low-income housing), free (crappy) healthcare, free (crappy) therapy, and free (crappy) support services. I feel like most people can agree that cutting off all support to disabled people is morally wrong. However, the damage tends to happen more subtly, by cutting funding and denying services little by little. Which leaves people in situations where they are technically getting government support, but unable to have a decent quality of life.
Wait, that's not what he said. He said the government should be helping people, and EVEN IF all the government cared about was ROI, ... He doesn't only look at it from an ROI perspective, reread the tweet. He was commenting on how even from a financial standpoint if the government didn't care about helping people as they should, they would still have financial benefits, and it's true and that's something disability rights advocates talk about as well.
Yes he tends to focus more on capturing content and peoples reactions than spreading the word on big issues he tackles, like lack of accessibility for cataract surgery.
I always found MrBeast videos off-putting but I couldn't put my finger on what it was. I realised it was that most of his videos are game shows or competitions like wipeout, survival etc but people treat it as charity/altruism which is so weird to me. Like the video where they hunted 100 people in a mall is not charity or the guy that lived in a circle for 100 days, it's a game show with less regulations. And I did find the eye surgery video weird, but it was more when you put it into the perspective with his other videos. I am glad he is helping people and that those people got the chance to fix their temporary blindness. But with the rest of his videos, I can't help but view it like another game show where he used people in need to get views. I also do think he meant it as sincere but it did feel a bit off.
Edit: fixed a typo
So he makes entertaining videos and give away money? Why is that weird to you
@@CleetusBilly I already explained why I felt that way. He usually never just gives it away it's a game show type thing. The contestants have to do something to get the money. That's not charity. Do you get what I mean?
edit: don't get me wrong, I understand he helps people, like with the surgeries.
@Cleetus Billy he's not "giving away" he's using downtrodden people as content while they dance for his amusement and to the applause of millions of idiots kids
@@josefinarivia but he also gives to charity with food drives or run charity’s
Ignoring that the “game show” stuff is just for the algorithm he makes way more money that way and it makes it more fun for the people also
@@bervestormbottom3357 this was the dumbest comment I’ve ever seen actually
especially as a poor disabled
person, these comments have
shocked me in the very best way. twitter was a damn nightmare about this. thank you so much for speaking up and making this. it means so much. and thanks to all your followers who reassured me listening and critical thinking aren't actually an extinct premise.
also I'm TERRIBLY sorry for redoing this comment so many times, my tablet doesn't allow comment editing and... the typos.oh, the typos.
Mr. Beast content has always made me uncomfortable as a poor disabled person. I applied for government assistance in the US in 2020 when I was no longer able to work, we’re now in 2023 and it’s been crickets. Had it not been for the support of my family I’d be dead on the street. His and all other content like it absolutely exploits that. It comes across very squid games, black mirror, etc. if we had all our needs met, it could just be a fun game show. But these are real lives he’s profiting off of.
This. For me the worst thing is the gamification and sensationalisation of charity. Has he done it casually, without an exaggerated thumbnail, it would have been good. I've seen videos wear people do charity work and there's nothing wrong with that. But the way he did it feels really squid game-y and that's not okay.
@@spacetrashfallingdown I think it might be a bit because that's exactly how he gets the wealth he gives away though. I don't know too much about it so pardon me if I'm wrong. But I feel like he would give away money "for free" if he actually could do it effectively. It seems like a smaller piece of a bigger societal issue to me..
My perspective is that leading influencers are always doing performative SOMETHING and I would rather see that be sweeping acts of charity over it being pranks, or showing off things they bought, or exploiting their kids for clicks, etc.
Mr.Beast is about to take the eyesight back.
This surgery fixes one specific type of blindness caused by cataracts, there are lots of other reasons for blindness. And it brings up the question of, if a complete cure for all blindness was truly available, would everyone want it? And then, would the people who chose not to still be treated with respect and care? Because disability is/can be an identity.
I’m proud to be disabled, but if I had the option to limit some of my symptoms, I’d probably take it. And everyone should feel free to be able to make that decision for themselves, not just to feel forced into it because our capitalistic hellscape wants as many people back in the workforce as possible.
Nah I’m fine with personally attacking someone for being apolitical. I think the ability to be apolitical itself can only exist with privilege holding it up. It’s a privilege to not have to think about things critically. People actually being harmed by systems have to think about them. I don’t have any respect for people who don’t think critically about the world around them. I’m 22. I was thinking critically about the world around me in MIDDLE SCHOOL. His age isn’t an excuse.
I'm surprised this is the thing that has gotten the most criticism out of his philanthropic endeavors. IIRC, he's made videos where he goes through a drive-thru and just hands people money or makes people say "subscribe to Mr. Beast for $1,000." It feels, to me, much more "dance for my entertainment to survive" for something like that other than him paying for people's surgeries.
"He's not particularly political" the dude is friends with Gary Vee and shills cryptocurrency. He is a political actor whether he will acknowledge it or lie about it.
love how charitable (pun intended) yall are with this approach, very refreshing
While he probably loses money when he makes a video, he almost certainly makes it back from merch sales and the other things he sells
Not to mention he could write off a lot of the stuff he does as a business expense and get the money back easily
I don’t think you guys realize that he pretty much puts all the money he makes in his videos into another video, so that tax right off for business expenses would just go back to making another larger video or charity.
imagine we stop people from being able to see because money OH WAIT
Who Mr. Beast is can best be summarized by a clip his team keeps trying to delete where he talks about doing a show where he has every age of person in a circle and last person to leave the circle wins the money. But they won’t have food or anything. And then he goes on to talk about, AND LAUGH, at the idea of elderly people dying for the money and how much that would get views.
In collaboration with Donut media, when they went to “thank” Donut media for making a car, his entire team said, “people are going to love me for this” instead of thanking the team for all their work. Then later it cut to Mr. Beast saying thank you as a side remark.
From the multiple failed businesses and bad reviews of the food Mr. beast has released. It’s clear that they don’t care about the message. This is all just a game to get more money and attention.
So when it comes to helping differently abled or poor, what do we NEVER see with Mr. Beast?
Follow up.
Did he give people a free expensive car? Wow! Guarantee he didn’t help pay the registration or insurance.
Did he plant lots of trees? Yeah. But didn’t do research to the areas they planted for if the ecosystem could handle the increased plant mass.
Did they try to clean the ocean?
Sure.
But once that was done, the groups involved haven’t seen any more money.
It’s turning charity and altruism into a business in the worst way.
So when differently abled people need help. He’s not going to continue helping them when the screen is off.
To me. That makes it all fake.
Taking advantage of people in situations who CANT say no. And using them for profit.
Think about it.
If he hired them, he would have to pay them a salary and benefits.
If he can just give 5 people $20000, it’s cheaper than hiring and training 5 actors.
Think of it this way.
If I “gave 10 random strangers $10000 to build a house in one week!!” It would be cheaper than buying the house.
It’s outsourcing the labor as “giveaways”.
But he’s targeting people who can’t say no.
His “helping disabled people” is “I paid 100 people $10000 each to make a viral video they get no royalties in and they need the money so they have to do it!” Because if they said they didn’t want to be filmed, they would not have gotten the money…
this should be the top comment lmao. you're completely right.
! Tbf As far as I’m aware he does help with post video payments like taxes and whatnot. In addition team trees is run by professionals who know where to plant what trees safely.
this comment puts it perfectly tbh
Wasnt the team tree thing done with an organization that knew what they were doing?? Other than that yeah great comment
He has talked about how he makes sure he pays the taxes for those that get the vehicles. He also offers to buy prizes so people can get the money. He makes sure not to bankrupt people.
TeamTrees was done in mind with organizations that specialize in where to plant the trees.
People in his North Carolina community say he constantly is doing things that aren't on camera for the community.
He studied TH-cam for over 2 years, every single day, for hours a day with a group of people dedicated to studying the TH-cam algorithm. Raised by a single, military Mom, he worked his butt off to get what he has when he was diagnosed with Chron's Disease.
He did a whole interview with the doctor to talk about how it's crazy that people don't have access to this surgery. We always want influencers to use their platforms for good, and yet when someone like Mr. Beast does, he gets criticized for...helping people? Like, most people don't even watch his Philanthropy channel.
And on Twitter, lots of people were actually hating on him simply because he is rich. There were lots of tweets criticizing him as a person directly that he shouldn't be helping people at all. But no one was talking about cataracts surgery before this! And all of the people complaining, how many have used their own earned money to help someone else?
Mr. Beast is a minimalist. He's not even out here like Jake Paul with huge expensive houses and cars, etc. He basically lives in his house. Anyone who works for him and then they stop working for him, he makes sure they're good. He found something he likes doing: helping people.
And to be in a world where you're criticized for helping people is just bizarre when that's what everyone claims they want. And now if you're rich you shouldn't help people? Damn. He didn't say anything derogatory about people who need cataract surgery; he simply highlighted about 20 - 30 people, which means the vast majority in the video weren't even shown on camera.
Even in his private jet video, he made sure he used a site to set off his carbon footprint that the private jet did make and would make.
I watched the video and one thing that really performative and over the to
was when he bought a kid a Tesla. Basically he bought this kid the surgery so he could see then bought him a Tesla so he could learn to drive. If that happened to me I think I would be so overwhelmed thinking oh sh*t I really cant mess up driving bc I have this super expensive car. Also he essentially forced the kid and his family to pay a bunch of upkeep for this car and if they live in a bad area that car could get stolen
Why does that green jacket make Jarvis look so good!! Love this style of pod too, glad Jordan is here!! (Or not right now, but glad he’s able to come back more)
charity is best done quietly, and if its reported on, its by others who notice, not by the individual broadcasting how great they are to everyone
While I agree, but I don't think he was doing it for that reason.
I just think he's doing it because the first philanthropy video did super well, and he wanted to keep doing it, but because of the titanic nature of those videos, and the fact that's his main income source, he's sort of forced to make content out of it, or turn it to a lower level, but he's known for crazy acts of charity, so lesser acts would make it seem like he's getting greedy, even if it's still a sizeable amount
@@ecliiipsssse yeah, i reduced him too much to make my point, I agree with most of that 👍
I am suspicious of most “celebrities” who are publicly philanthropic. I don’t watch his videos, but I am of the opinion that if it was TRULY about charity, he’d donate quietly. Ex. Giselle from Aespa quietly donated to an animal charity and was only found out when the charity made it public. She didn’t go around bragging about donating that money. I can’t help but think celebs who document it are keeping it as “proof” for the IRS when they inevitably write it off on their taxes.
@@ecliiipsssse I think this is what more people need to understand. Whether it was performative and uncomfortable or not the video has almost 100 million views, that ad revenue has gotta go a long way to funding the next charity project
If Mr. Beast were to “donate quietly” he’d legitimately have no money left to donate. All the money he makes on his videos goes right back into making another video. He can’t make more money to donate if he doesn’t make it into a video. He has to keep upping the size of the content and making it entertaining to make more money to donate. While he does donate quietly, he won’t be able to ever donate nearly as much if he stops making them videos.
That blanket looks like ramen
People kind of overplay the "Mr beast loses money on every video" at the end of the day he is making money. He has a bunch of buisnesses that are making money and growing, the main channel losing money is marketing spend, he's growing his brand filtering people into projects that do make money.
Be charitable to people without filming it challenge! *IMPOSSIBLE*
Truly appreciate this as a thoughtful, intentional conversation first video I’ve watched through in a while
Not y’all specifically but TH-cam as whole, I forgot this kind of content was out there
I guess the overall discomfort for me when it comes to philenthropic charity, is that the best thing Mr Beast could do to help these people out is just not be so fucking rich. Charity only exists inbetween the canyon of wealth disparity
sometimes i feel like people are too carried away being radicals who say "lets not criticize the individual, lets criticize the system instead! capitalism ooo" while ignoring any form of accountability.
mr beast is complicit, individually, directly, to the exploitation of marginalized people. it is one thing to be a rich person pretending to give to charities to better your image, and being complicit by participating in an oppressive system. it is another thing to not only take advantage of your privilege, and making a business out of making a SPECTACLE out of those who are disenfranchised at the expense of your wealth, and claiming moral purity while doing so. if he really wants to give back for the sake of other's wellbeing and "just because", he wont make these people battle each other, have to be publicly exposed to millions (sometimes even their personal stories), etc. and become "super (insert marginalized identity)" among their peers to deserve help.
tldr; stop saying "the issue isnt mr beast, its the system that allowed this to happen". its both. no one was "forced by circumstances" to make a youtube career out of filming unconsenting orphans and making them do a humiliating "fun" game with their welfare on the line.
something about seeing that y'all have legs is so disturbing
😂
This comment is so funny 😂
jarvy boy dripped tf out in this one
Even if I've already watched the full episode I watch the highlights
Also Jimmy is not a blind person. He is a white rich dude with a you tube channel in which he produces an entire video about him being the saviour. While he does say we are curing 1000 blindness. Infact even just saying the number feels like he’s showing off .
Yes I’m happy for those who got their eyes fixed but seriously no 😅
Never realized how much Jordan sits like a proper English kindergartener
i have never seen jordan in such crisp high quality, hes a whole new guy. this looks like a commercial
my perspective on this is, good for mr beast for providing that access to the surgery for people who were previously unable to get it, but the fact that a third party had to come in to finance that procedure rather than the government just taking care of its citizens is shameful and dystopian. i'm also deeply uncomfortable with the narrative of "disabled people being fixed" that's been amplified by his video, because although the people in the video wanted that procedure, there are still plenty of blind and partially sighted people who may not want that surgery, and that's their business. the problem is that the option to have the procedure is not there for people who want it and can't afford it, not that blind and partially-sighted people are broken without it.
i have to say this iam watching jordan legs and my brain is just telling those legs are going to be so numb after this video i cant imagine sitting like that for long periods of time
I saw a blind creator talking about this (blind surfer if you're wondering), who critiqued more the misinformation such a click bait-y title gave. I do recommend looking him up to get his take on it.
Something truly dystopic about super rich people making these millionaire donations is that they essentially have the power to decide who lives or dies based on who is going to get their money. And after making these donations, many people (not necessarily MrBeast) will use them as a moral highground and justification for having their money. Because they use them for "good", they are "one of the good ones". But whether they are good or not, nobody should have so much money that they would never be able to spend it all and nobody should have to depend on some rich person to decide they're feeling generous to get access to such basic needs
JARVIS YOUR HAIR LOOKS IMMACULATE
I have more specific problems with Mr. Beast, but overall, I really hate the capitalist system that he's a symptom of. He makes money not because he's exceptionally "useful" to society, but because he can game the system and because he has money, that means he can choose people to essentially be worthy of living by giving them money or something they can't afford. And it's not like they can't afford it because they "deserve it" less than he does, but because capitalism is an inherently unfair system in which some people must "lose" by no fault of their own.
I would’ve sworn Mr.Beast was like.. 30. 28 minimum. This is crazy
To be honest I was pleasantly surprised at Mr. Beast's statement. Like the Boyz say, I have patience for him if he didn't fully think about the implications of this, and intended it partly as a commentary but the idea wasn't full formed. I'm optimistic for him that he took feedback well and will hope that he continues to be more explicit about using his position of privilege to call out those systems. (Am disabled and trans but to be clear, I don't intend this to contradict folks who take issue with other aspects of this - Those are valid points too!)
He's a rich guy who's into capitalism and money almost exclusively. He helped these people for content not only because he wanted to. If he had helped them and not used it for content that's one thing. But he made a cheesy thumbnail and used it for views essentially encouraging others to do the same. It's similar to people filming themselves helping other communities for views. In order for the people in need to get help they have to be filmed in a vulnerable moment of their life and be used for views/clickbait.
Isn't there an argument to be made that it's somewhat justified because this is how he gets the revenue to be charitable, to raises awareness to the problem he's "fixing" *and* to the charities that help fix them? If he wasn't this clickbaity he would've never made the amount of money necessary this fast to cure the blindness of 1000 people
This describes every charity ever
@@albinofrog5175 but he can make other types of videos and help these people at the side. He doesn't make money from contents only like this
@@themysticwarriorgal9465He most likely made it to bring awareness to both the problem that people don’t have access to such a surgery and show that he is also helping people with the money he gets from videos.
@@ynam.2622 but there r multiple ways to do this without taking advantage of disabled people. I hope all the money he made from the video he donated it to people that need it. Judging by his thumbnail I don't get the feeling that it's something done from the heart
i haven’t even watched the video yet but jarvis looks amazing
This came out the exact hour I found out Mr. Beast is coming to my work lol. Wish I was gonna be there to get a read on him, but I won't be in. We'll see how that goes!
what the heck :o i wanna know what happened
As far as I saw he gave one of the ppl cured a Tesla, something unnecessary imo, especially since I think there’s this precedent of ppl getting slammed on their taxes if they suddenly come into possession of a very expensive item like that, not to mention that money could’ve been used to help more ppl get the surgery but of course, then the video couldn’t have an exciting Tesla racing scene…
I think it’s sad how the state of our capitalist society puts people in these types of situations where they’re being exploited for content by people like mr beast under the guise of charity and commentators are hesitant to call out the situation like it is, trying hard not to step on anyone‘s toes because they’re technically „helping“ people…
Ok, so your critique is founded upon a misevaluation if how Mr. Beast actually gives away prizes.
He gets those high value items like teslas and private jets because they are more engaging for the video, but when he actually gives them away he presents a choice. The winner can accept the prize as is (and suffer the tax implications) or they can have cash, equal to what the prize can be sold for. While both options are devalued by the taxes that come with them, Mr. Beast is aware of rhat and works around the system to ensure that the winner actually benefits from their prize.
He doesn't use the system to screw people over with taxes or anything. He's just performative for the purposes of the video.
I agree with the words coming out of Jordan and Jarvis' mouths, but it's hard to take them seriously with smooth motion enabled on my TV and Jarvis' mouth looks like an angry orange video.
The only reason why me beast can do these things is because he makes content
I got a mr.beast shopify ad before the video started.
I looked into the surgery and its free where i live
My dad got a cataract surgery to prevent blindness and he had to wait and pay extra because he had abnormally large eyes. Good thing is we’re Canadian so it didn’t cost much in the first place. It just took really long.
He has plenty of videos where he gives away money and prizes to friends (who I assume are now employees) who repeatedly appear in lots of videos. I’m assuming he isn’t actually giving away any money in those videos so he gets the money from monetization and sponsorships from those videos which gives him the ability to do more of the actual giveaway videos. I don’t think he’s lying when he says he loses money from those actual giveaway videos but I don’t think that’s true of all of his videos. I think that’s part of the overall structure that allows him to grow and profit while still giving away a lot of money and things. Obviously other parts of his brand also bring in money separate from the videos but those elements really didn’t exist in the same way even a couple years ago.
There is no way MrBeast is the same age as me I literally refuse to believe that what the FUCK
ramen noodle blanket distracting me
If you have to do “performative” charity to continue to do charity, I am fine with it. Not very many people with that kind of funding and platform are doing anything at all. I would support someone who robbed the rich and gave to the poor so why wouldn’t I support someone who used some people to get views, if the views are what it takes to help those people.
I like your jacket
Mr beast seems to be like an effective altruism dude.
Actually didn’t know y’all had a podcast loading that shot up to listen at work tomorrow
I’m so sorry I needed to say this. The blanket looks like Ramen! I’m sorry!
thatts what im saying
yummy
His videos have always made me uncomfortable. But in a sort of “this is where we are in the timeline huh?” way. Because it is capitalism and I think we’re all forced to dance for capitalism in one way or another. You may as well try to do something good if you can. But he could probably treat it with a little more respect and dignity.
i dont think mr beast truly understands the critiques he's getting. to me, he's just a boy who was born and raised under capitalism, but never bothered to dig into what capitalism is and how it harms people and that there are alternatives, and ways to change a system. it seems to me like he sees capitalism as just the way the world works and has always worked, an unshakable construct that's as sure and steady as life and death, so he's simply operating in the matrix of it like there's nothing outside of it and the only way to 'win' is to gather resources and grow your business infinitely. he's said in interviews that he basically lives to work, there's nothing else he does, and that's very sad to me. it appears to me like the way he sees life is like a game of monopoly.
i think it's quite terrifying that this is the way some people are. just unaware, ignorant, misguided and so, so powerful at the same time. he has influence over so many people - i know i used to blindly believe in him without realizing what he represented. i'm glad i've been alerted to this. i've been naively holding him in high regard when, shock horror, he's not the second coming of jesus f-ing christ
tl:dr - i am dissapointed in myself for not realizing mr beast wasn't gonna save us all
i sound so pretentious in this comment. i realize i'm not the most brilliant myself, nor the most educated, i just want to acknowledge that
Jarvis didn’t think about the world until he was 25?
Jarvis is like 24, just like me, right? Jordan and Jarvis are in their MID-20s, right?
TH-camrs often grow up in bubbles that don’t require them to consider the world outside themselves until they get an audience. Just consume their content without deifying them.
Jarvis has only had a significant TH-cam following in the last four years or so, before that he was just a programmer making the odd techy video for not many people. If he 'grew up in a bubble' I don't think it had anything to do with TH-cam.
Jarvis is 30.
I don’t get that. You start thinking about the world around 10-12, when you’re reaching puberty. That’s how it was and is for me. It is INSANE when people say to me that teenagers don’t know anything or that early 20 year olds don’t know anything. I’m perplexed. But at the same time I get it. The teenagers and young adults I see are very weak, conformists, and lame
I think Mr. Beast did really well for the situation. He did a good thing but dropped the ball on clearly acknowledging how fucked up it is that he was the one who had to pay for this medical procedure. Then responded to the backlash a second time with understanding? AND 1000 PEOPLE GOT CATARACT SURGERY! Even him slightly dropping the ball has brought on alot of good conversation about the state of Healthcare in the US and the world, not that that was his intention. But overall a positive outcome situation in my eyes. If we critiqued our elected officials and they responded like Mr.beast maybe we'd actually get somewhere.
The guy is mostly desperate for views, he himself admitted in the Joe Rogan podcast that everything he does is made to optimize his view count. And honestly, that's fine, to each their own. My biggest problem is that he is clearly grabbing a very systemic problem caused by capitalism and exploiting it for capitalistic purposes, had he done his charity in a more private manner or a less exploitative way I wouldn't be so disappointed at him
I mean, I don't really see that much of a problem.
Look at it this way: Would you rather a world where EVERY rich person occasionally does random acts of charity for their own benefit, or a world where NO rich person does acts of charity at all?
@@NieR042 a world where charity doesn't have to rely on rich people's goodwill, thank you very much
@@eliasmg9144 The thing is, it doesn't. You can spend all your goodwill money on a charity, rich people just do it better!
@@NieR042 like I said, to each their own, It doesn't change the fact that this very specific act of charity was done by a young kid whose sole brand relies on getting the most amount of clicks and watering down his own content to exploit it up to its maximum potential.
And tbh, I'm glad those 1000 people got to see again, that's objectively a good thing, no one is denying that. And it's not even one of the worst charity acts ever either, it's not up the with Ellen DeGeneres, Harvey Weinstein, Bill Cosby, JK Rowling or the Live Aid concert. Regardless, it's still a problem that Jimmy is not self conscious enough to realize that his video is way too exploitative for its own good and that there are better ways to do it
@@eliasmg9144 Another way to look at it, is that, by publicizing his acts of charity, he gets back money that he'll back into another act of charity for content's sake. Plus, other rich guys will start doing similar stuff for clout, but it's still helping people, so we really shouldn't mind
Jarvis looks so freaking cute here
I know people will think this is not nuanced, but coming from a trafficking survivor who has had a hell of a time getting people to care about ending trafficking or bettering the lives of survivors, I really don't care about the selfish intentions behind helping people like those who have gone through what I have. As long as people start doing it and the people who need it get the resources and voices they need. The bar IS that low for compassion towards certain groups of people. At this point, just help people. Just. Help. Each. Other.
For me, the big issue is that the selfish intentions behind helping people tend to take the focus off the issue and put it on the celebrity. Like, with Mr. Beast videos, people are talking about Mr. Beast doing a good thing but if we all _really_ helped each other, we wouldn't need to have one rich guy doing a good thing for some people because we would support each other more in general, socially.
I know this is big picture, but I hope what I'm saying makes sense.
i know he's done a lot of good things but i just don't trust the guy
more policital videos plz i love when y’all talk abt capitalism and it’s failings
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it's the fact mr beast never calls out the system that makes it so these blind people that can be cured can't get the help they need. because that's the system that gives him a platform
But he did call out the system. In his video and in his tweet
Me beast isn’t the problem. The institution is. I don’t particularly enjoy the man or his content but he’s helping a lot more people out than “thoughts and prayers” are. I have bigger issues with these ceos and creators of Amazon and Tesla and other powerhouse companies that make more than most small countries gdps asking their patrons to donate on their behalf to world disasters. That’s the real issue
Yea, but it is kind of weird to me, to use people with disabilities as a way to either make money or to use them to show how good of a person you are. And while I do realize that in the end it’s a net positive, it still feels weird.
@@crathion4960 the way I see it people with disabilities are paying their own surgeries by creating revenue thru him and his massive audience...he's using his platform to keep generating money to probably cover for future endeavours that included helping other disabled people and thay gain visibility to their cause and ppl are actually discussing the health care problems. Is a win.
That's the system of capitalism, not an institution. I agree that billionaires are bigger problems than millionaires, but they're all essentially symptoms of the same problem.
As much as I feel that mr beast’s content is a bit off putting, I still cannot help but support him as he does improve so many peoples life. It’s just so dystopian
I don't really care for the angle of blind people or people with disabilities "can't live life to the fullest" so "Jesus Beast is saving them"
3.05 he breaks the 4th wall but it’s not actually the 4th wall cuz it’s TH-cam so like he breaks the fifth wall in 3D chess
I love you guys
Can’t say I really like the new setup. I don’t really like seeing the whole leg thing. Just some constructive criticism! Good vid tho.
He exploits people in need and I don't like it.
is this it?? the best take??
Mr beast is so surreal because he's like the most ambitious least creative TH-camr. Luke a lot of his video premises are kind of just bad ideas for a video and yet he succeeds in executing those bad ideas on such a level that it's a marvel in or itself. Like the squid game video it's not a good gameshow, I don't care about the contestants, there is no real drama, the whole thing feels weird and rushed but it's interesting because I want to know how he pulled it off
this comment section has made me feel so good. lol nice to know im not tripping for having issues with him as a person and how he went about doing this
I also think it’s a bit troubling to me that the whole premise is curing a disability. This specific thing is one thing but the appeal is “curing blindness.” Which, on the one hand, is blindness always something to be cured, if it were possible? On the other, this obsession with curing, with making someone as much like an a abled person as possible, can be a real distraction from the ways that you can realistically improve people’s quality of life, uk.
I’m just dreading the day we get “curing 1000 people’s deafness!” and of course the documentary length responses deaf people are going to have are going to completely go unseen by most
Today I learned that Mr. Beast is 24 and I, a 28 year old, now feel older than I ever have
I thought he was on his mid 30's or 40's 💀
Let’s petition Mr Beast to pay for 100 SRS procedures 🥰✨
pretty fucked that some people can't afford to see...
okay i haven’t seen this yet but i thought jarvis and mr beast were friends?
The issue is that Mr Beast shouldn't be able to choose who sees and who doesn't. Yes it's good for those people who did get the help, but you have to realise most people won't, and he's making money off the power to "save" people from something our society can afford for them not to be plagued by.
You're right!
So, let's spin the wheel!
DING DING DING
Sorry, Little Billy. Guess God doesn't like you that much!
Choosing people is always better than choosing nobody (least in my opinion) He could save way more people, but then the surgery would cost exponentially more in preparation for the next batch of lucky guys. It isn't really Mr. Beast's fault for being charitable, nor for being rich.
Using the logic of "he shouldn't be able to choose," the best course of action for him would be to just splurge an incredible amount of money on himself, therefore throwing his cash back into circulation and now everyone has an equal chance of getting themselves a Mr. Beast buck!
@@NieR042 I understand your angle, this is better than nothing, what I was trying to express is that it's quite cruel that this is the only way that people some people can have sight. Something so profound to the human experience. Fundamental even. It's just sad to think about. That's all.