I have owned both, 2005 VMAX which I sold a couple years ago and bought a 2013 triumph rocket 3 roadster, both are great bikes and excel in the conditions they were designed for. The VMAX price tag killed it, which is why as far as I know they were discontinued, where the rocket 3 changed it's looks and evolved in a crotch rocket looking bike, the older rocket 3s that have a cruiser look are far better looking
I just saw this all these years later. I bought a 2018 VMax and only added a Corbin seat ( to lower it a bit. It does work), backrest and Denali Sound Bomb. Its awesome...
Enjoy your 2018 . I bought a 2016 new and love it. Yes the gas mileage sucks but there's plenty of gas stations around and after 90 miles I need a rest anyway.
A second gear take off on the R3 makes quite a difference. It's a comparison of sorts but it's apples and oranges really. I still prefer the Rocket. There's really nothing like it.
The biker media always puts the Rocket up against the Diavel & V-Max in tests. The Rocket 3 is a traditional cruiser. It weighs over 300 kilos, is covered in chrome, and can be purchased in full touring spec - it isn't a performance bike. It is about torque and that cruiser riding exoerience... so why not put it in a review against big Harleys & Indians? Is the Rocket so much better that comparisons are superfluous?
In short.. yes. There is no HD or Indian that are even in the same class as the stock Roadster for power, cornering, or braking of the showroom floor. The Roadster and Touring share the same motor, every single part, zero difference mechanically. The Touring is neutered from Triumph, but $10 cable and a free tune can fix that and give full power, 130hp/145lb-ft at the wheel with nothing but ECU changes. You wont find another touring cruiser on the market capable of the same speeds as the R3T, period. It may not be a sportbike, but don't get confused, it IS a performance bike when compared to the other bikes in the same class. A built motor R3 with suspension work done can reach just about 45 degrees lean + run 8.99 1/4@155mph, street ridden, street legal doing all that. No extended swing arm, no straps, no slicks, no drag suspension, no race fuel, no ram air, no quick shifter, no air shifter, no 2-step, all that crap other sub 9 second bikes tend to run. There is nothing on 2 wheels that's street legal that will beat it in the 1/4 or to 186mph.
Niidea1986 I'm considering buying a cruiser... the Diavel / V-max are for drag racing, hooning or posing - they don't have the range, pillion comfort or luggage capacity for 2 up touring... in the real world I suspect there are more people like me who are interested in how an R3 stacks up against Triumphs own Thunderbird models and the various big cruisers than against the Diavel & V-Max - yet I can hardly find any good quality comparisons from any point in its decade long production run. Owners of the R3 in the states report that it is a proper cruiser capable of carrying lots of luggage, a comfortable pillion ride and a capable tourer that they do ride in that manner - so why is it so rare to see it treated as such in the bike press?
Rob W probably because R3 was not designed with the character of your average cruiser; let's be real, there is a huge mismatch between R3's power plant and the limits in performance of a cruiser, but people feel atracted to the R3 precisely for that engine, it is the best marketing hook that it has. Now I don't want you to think I am an expert or anything near that, I am a city biker who learnt to ride while delivering fast food and both of this monsters go beyond my spending power, but just using logic tell me if you think a cruiser motorcycle with this monster engine at it's core would really be more comfortable than another one easier to tame... But I understand your point of course, I was also looking for a video talking about other aspects of this bike to satisfy my curiosity and found none.
I have ridden both and I really like them both and would choose either one over practically any other bike on the planet. I have to say though that even if the prices were similar I'd go for the Rocket 3- theres' some indefinable mystique about it that makes it both a classy and scarily quick ride but I am a Triumph fan.
Vmax should be reviewed against other bikes that fall within the power cruiser catorgory. Ducati's Diavel or KTM 1290 super Duke for example. The Rocket is more of a retro styled cruiser which just happens to make lots of Torque. Triumph quote 146 bhp and 163flbs torque. Dissapointing when review is not accurate. Triumph easily returns over 200 miles to a tank compared to 80 on the vmax when riding at 80mph+. Difficult to "cruise" when you're always filling up. I think the Triumph looks way cooler and at $7000 cheaper than the vmax its a good deal.
My brother had the vmax and loved the looks and presence but the fuel range killed it for him... me too as when we we were out for a ride he spent most of the time looking for filling stations. If your idea of fun is having crowds around your bike looking at it while you sit drinking coffee then go ahead... me I would sooner ride.
i've had my 2014 Rocket III Roadster (2 years now)and what many people forget when comparing this bike to others is how affordable this motorcycle is; for 16K not sure you will find a Goldwing certainly not HD. Corners excellent as well as braking is superb. Those on the fence need to pull the trigger soon as I believe the End of Life is soon due to the new Euro 4 emission standards.
Their both cool bikes. I bought a 2011 Triumph R3 Roadster, I LOVE IT...Went from So. Cal up 395 to Seattle, WA and back south on Hwy. 1 with my wife. Most fun I've ever had on a bike road trip. Thanks Triumph !!!
I've ridden the rocket iii touring and found it a bit too heavy and not very agile. Probably good for the highway riding but in town ridings a bitch. It's lower to the ground so not much for clearance rounding the corners. I did, however, buy a 2014 Triumph Rocket III Roadster and wow......what a difference. The weight of the bike still sits low however, the seat height and the frame in general is higher. A lot more stability and agility. I can lay this thing down pretty far while rounding corners without scraping the pegs. I have a performance kit on it as well as a new exhaust system. Brought the hp up to 195 and a nice increase in torque as well. At this point I'm pretty sure my roadster would kick the vmaxs ass now. But......we really shouldn't be comparing the two. These are two very different bikes. The vmaxs is designed for the track, yes it's upright seating position implies "cruiser" but this is more of a sport bike than anything. The rocket iii roadster is a muscle bike. It's a cruiser that's meant to pack a punch. This is designed for casual riding but gives you the power when you need it for overtaking on highways or when you get stuck behind a stinky truck on the back roads. When it all comes down to it......it's all about what you like. Motorcycling promotes and encourages individuality. Everyone is different, so what works for you might not work for someone else. Me personally, I love my triumph rocket.........but I wouldn't give someone the stink eye for riding a vmax.
Robert Vinson II I've been thinking about the Rocket but haven't got to sit on one yet so here is a question; I'm just under 5'8" and although it's a good while since I dropped a bike I heard if you can't get both feet completely flat on the ground, this is not a good choice, i.e. once it starts to go over, it will go over. From the riding position would you say that it's off limits for 5'7" - 5'8" riders?
No, I had a friend of mine who's around 5'6" sit on it and he could almost flat foot it. You can easily lean it on one leg at a stop sign/light. Once you roll the throttle it'll straighten out. It is a fairly heavy bike, however the rocket roadster is lighter and more nimble/agile than the touring and the classic rocket. You should be in shape....have strong legs, back and arms. If you're worried about possibly dumping it, then I'd recommend front a rear dresser bars to protect the bike as well as not letting it go too far down. If you have strong legs you can easily push against the bike with your back and lift with your legs. The bike is definitely not for inexperienced riders. You must have extensive experience with heavy bikes. The turning and braking confidence is a lot less than on a sport bike or a smaller cruiser. I would also recommend getting a windshield...........the torque is so insane that with the torque and wind combined it's hard to stay on the bike when quickly accelerating. It really forces the arms to stretch which is why upper body strength is key. I hope I answered your question. Any further questions are welcomed.
Robert Vinson II Many thanks for your feedback, that's the most useful practical advice I've read; Sounds like too big a step from my CB600F so I might wait another year or so, probably pick up a bigger heavier bike for the interim and try my buddy's V-Rod a few times before I go for it.
You should check out the Kawasaki Vulcan900 custom / Vulcan meanstreak or vaquero.......all really great bikes. The vaquero is a bagger but sits low and is perfect for people of average height. The meanstreak and 900custom are sportier bikes with great hp and torque.
Well......i need to retract some of my statement. after riding the roadster model for awhile i started getting pretty bad pain in my back and knees due to the seating position. I ended up trading it in for the touring model and upgraded the air filters and exhaust system. believe it or not but the touring has nearly the same power has the roadster after retuning it for the tors exhaust. After riding it for about three weeks now i realized that the touring is more agile due to the smaller tires and is better on the highway due to the longer rake. ive come to the conclusion the the roadster is good for a straight line but not ideal for much more. it is an insane bike and thrill seekers will definitely get their rush on it. but the touring seems more ideal for longer rides as well as commuter rides. fuel economy is way better than the roadster and the seating position alleviates knee and back pain. not to mention the windshield, and backrest/luggage rack are quickly detachable. the nice big and pretty hardbags are detachable as well with just a slight turn on each screw in the bag...two per bag.. also fog lights come standard on the touring as well as front and rear dresser bars. shocks are also 100xs better on the touring as well as the seats(touring dual gel seats come as standard) you definitely get more bang for your buck with the touring model. a couple issues with the touring model does not display what gear youre in nor does it have a tachometer. the speedometer is on the gas tank so you have to look down alot. the gas tank cover is not lockable however you can get one through the triumph store. putting fuel into the r3t is also pretty difficult and takes very slow and careful pumping in order to completely fill the tanks without splashing everywhere. id reccomend doing more research and also checking out the triumph promtional offers as they currently have some high value vouchers to customers. keep an eye out, ill be doing a review video of my 2014 r3t soon
Neither the Yamaha or the Ducati in my opinion fall under the cruiser classification, the Rocket is a classic and true bike that's a cruiser in all fazes with the exception its not a traditional V twin, so what! its a pure cruiser that can go 200 miles on a tank of gas and none of the other 2 can due to the Crotch rocket styling of them. yes they are fast and can go 0-60 in 2.8 seconds, but then you need to go get gas cause its empty. I do have to say and agree that the Rocket III is not for an average person in stature, its a VERY big bike and yes heavy, but fun! I own one and love it....
I would figure that it would work well as a single person cruiser for folks who have previously owned tour bikes and know how to handle and manuever the bigger boys.
Both are faster than a car that's what you need to get yourself out of a scary situation. You cant go wrong with neither one their both good capable bikes but if you like long distance and don't want to spend your time at the pump the triumph is probably the better choice.
How remarkable! Pitching a sports tourer against a hooligan muscle-bike and reaching the obvious conclusion. I am quite sure that if the Max was put up against a TTS turbo Triumph it would be a closer-run thing. (Two different power to weight ratios are almost bound to give different results)
and with the $6000 difference in the price point, you can send the rocket to Carpenter Racing...he will turn the rocket in to a beast making 245 rwhp and 195 rear ft/lbs of torque...as of recent these bikes are running low 9.2x at 152.x on pump gas.... his package is a drive in drive out and is 100% bullet proof.
Not sure where this guy gets his 132 ftlbs for the Rocket, mine has 144 ftlbs at the wheel as stock. triumph claim 163 at the crank. also very misleading to say the rocket is arm pulling but no match for the vmaxs "brute force", which spins the wheel in the 'lower' gears (1st 2nd & 3rd?).... my rocket spins the tyre in 3rd too (stock). the vmax has the advantage of lighter weight and higher hp, meaning it faster once it rolling, but the rocket definitely has the advantage off the line due to the ridiculous tq and fat tyre. in the end (imo) they do a 1/4 in approx the same time. this guy found it easier to get a better time on the vmax because of this difference in power delivery. he said it himself, it took a whole load of clutchwork on the rocket - read: he isnt skilled enough to launch a bike with that torque.
The problem is they were wrong about about the mighty max's power too. It makes in the 200 hp range. The track numbers prove it. The triumph may get the jump with a good rider, but I'd bet within 120' the max will be pulling away easy. That V4 isn't an in line 4 (no matter what the fake sound effects they threw in sounded like). It's really torquey too.
they do make a number of much more manageable bikes. The Rocket (as stated in many reviews) is not a novice bike. Scrambler and others, see Triumph web site, are more along that line.
vmax are without a doubt great bikes, but there is only so much you can do on roads with all the power etc, (within the law I mean) then it comes down to preference, mine was the Rocket, my triumph before it was the America it was also a sexy bike just not fast enough, the Rocket is a gorgeous bike and I like the cruiser style of riding but the rocket is not full cruiser riding the pegs are further back and leaning into the corners like a sports bike rider feels totally natural but so does sitting back like a cruiser ride, I think its awesome, cant wait for warm weather!!
Because it's a personal choice. I have been a V-Max owner, admittedly back in the 90's. They are right, it's a hooligans bike. Now I ride a Rocket. Would I go back to he V-Max? Simple answer is no. Sure the V-Max performs better when you want to race but, for me, it's not all about racing. Besides I have done quite a lot of after market stuff to her so between mine and a V-Max there isn't so much difference, also thinking of putting a supercharger on her. If I do then mine would leave a stock Busa in it's dust. There is nothing like riding the Rocket. You have to ride one to understand. Go test ride one and I bet it will be days before you can wipe the grin off your face:))))))
@@papatruss The new V-Max is a completely different beast. Stock ones have a limiter, but if it's removed it gets to 180mph scarily quickly. On top of that, there's a supercharger kit that'll push it to 300whp. It's an insane bike.
Absolutely agree, mate... America is top-heavy and completely unwieldy at low speed... both the Storm and the Roadster handle much better... have owned all three... regarding this video, these lads are completely switched off and not understanding the Roadster at all... best motorbike I’ve ever owned...
Good review. Ironically better than some biased british reviews. I have the Rocket. Its not fastest. Not the best handling. But.it is what it is. I like it. But like some british reviews comparing the ducati to it. They just arnt the same purpose, Or style. You would think they would have more support for it. But no.
Just found your video... Now, it's Yamaha for me as, I still have my 1998 V-MAX with 38k miles on it. I removed the old air filter system and 9000lbs factory exhaust pipes. I can tell you this, the Gen-1, hates corners. If you have ever ridden a motocross bike hard, pulling at the bars to hit that apex corner, that's petty much what the older MAX is. It will fight you in the turns and it wants to sit straight & center. Also it wants to go straight. Zero to bazillion point & shoot bike. As for the new MAX... I can't help you there.
On problem here. They are comparing the R lll Roadster to the V-max. They should be using the standard Rocket which has 142hp to the wheel which I own and have beat the V-max several times. I also owned at 1987 V-max which I liked.
The Roadster *is* the standard, more powerful, version vs. the touring. I just checked the website and it's 148ps vs. 106 on the touring. It's pretty silly though - these engines are so easy to push 200 hp at the wheels, but they come so derated from the factory.
0-62 mph in 2.5 seconds and there’s a recorded 2.1 bone stock. Just tell me where the Triumph will even get close to that?.. The Max has 168ft lbs and 197bhp restricted... Mine spins up at 120 mph if you hit it hard and that’s on good Bt-028’s ... The Vmax just needs a little feathering on take off to get the most, it rapes anything on takeoff, period when it comes to production bikes. It’s not too shabby on cornering, but I’ve seen the horizon spin a few times for sure on exiting corners... It’s one hell of an engine, and the Vmax is all about the torque for it makes all of the 197bhp fully useable... 😎
Prefer the Rocket III myself !!! Surely it should've been a VMax v V-Rod ?? !! But I feel that a 2015 Ducatti Diavel might be best of all as an all round Super Naked ?? !!
Im sure Im not the only person to see these bikes dont compare.they are not even closely related.why would anyone compare them.its different.they arent aimed at the same buyer.the one is a touring type cruiser and the one is like a UJM street fighter.stupid vids on thetube!
If you watched the end of the video you would have heard them state that there is no clear winner here, just big differences/variants from the style of bike.
I think it's because they're both technically called "power cruisers" but yea you're right. The Vmax kind of has a toe in both camps (sport bike and cruiser) where as the rocket is clearly pure cruiser with a massive engine shoehorned into it. Both are awesome bikes in my opinion, but yea they are definitely way different.
@cmtegaravello well that's just not fair! Yeah I agree I would love to have one also, damn yamaha. Any idea how well these actually sell? because I am yet to see one of the nwe ones over here
This is comparing a sports bike [albeit a big one} to a true tourer. There will be lots of machines that are quicker from a standing start than an 800 lb behemoth, so what? That's just basic physics. The actual point of lots of mass is stability at speed, something at which the big Triumph has no equals. If Triumph were ever to tune this engine and put it east/west in sports frame, it would kill everything.
liar liarliar Would it not ? Keep waiting for it; Brilliant! New Rocket is north / south but sooo very close. Probably better. Sideways, too fall over y ... north / south and bobbed ... probably perfect. We will see :-)
so you try to tell that rocket at 2,5 k rpm where it have 132 ft lb and 60 whp accelerate harder than at 5 k rpm where it have 110 ft lb and 110 whp at the same velocity ? www.r3owners.net/account/dismiss-notice = NO DUDE YOU ARE WRONG = do simple test if you have rocket 3 set up some velocity let say 100 km/h and use gear whcih allow w engine to spinn 2,5 k rpm average so i dont know like 4 or 5 gear at starting point ? how much gear this bike have 5 or 6 ? anyway something like 4 or 5 probably be god for engine spin 2,5 k at 100 km/h and 5 k rpm average so like 2 or 3 gear and measure time to let say 150 km/h or something like this = at rpm close to peak power 5 k rpm time be much shorter and you be feel much stronger acceleration .132 ft lbs with 60 whp at the wheel at the same velocity in fact produce LESS TORQUE AT DRIVE WHEEL AXIS than 110 ft lbs 110 whp at 5 k rpm at the same velocity do math and you see :x the diffrenc beewten both setup be like diffrenc in horsepower so 110 :60 almost 2 Times stronger acceleration at 5 k rpm at the same velocity in the same time what is offcorse corelate you have 2 Times almost more torq at drive wheel axis :) .. its not rocket science :x or maybe it is ;) ..
@@mociczyczki done 3 cluches on mine, one went within 200 miles. Dosent feel like there's any difference what rpm you pull away at but my bike isn't standard. Still won't beat a vmax until I get the supercharger fitted. 👍
CockatooDude I thought the rocket was much heavier, oh well they are both beasts, having said that I personally don't enjoy ridding at such high speeds, when I roll the dice I would rather go to a casino "LOL" Be Safe!
this review makes me angry. how can you possibly compare a cruiser to a vmax which is basically a heavy crotch rocket. They even say that the vmax is PURPOSE BUILT for the dragstrip. the triumph doesnt belong in the same category as a vmax. what they shouldve compared the vmax to is the harley vrod. triumph rocket 3 is a power cruiser not a heavy crotchrocket. meant for comfort AND torque not top speed
No....that's not correct. My Rocket is extremely easy to corner at very slow speeds and resists the urge to fall over due to its low center of gravity. Also, it's very stable on the highway regardless of speed. Its extra weight adds to this stability making it able to ignore wind gusts from the side. Being created for different results, both bikes are awesome and deliver the characteristics for which they were designed.
These bikes are muscle bikes to me. The Vmax is like a newer Mustang or Camaro and the Rocket is like a 60's era drag car. Just different styles/performance .
Hey I will take my Rocket over that way over priced Max any day. If I was so crazy about more power I would just let the Carpenter boys in NJ tweak her a little and say bye bye to everyone!
Another pointless comparison.Why not compare the Rocket against the Yamaha Roadliner or the Suzuki bagger or the Kawasaki vulcan or the Goldwing,or the Victory Crosscountry? Or why not test the Vmax's abilty to handle long distance trips,instead of a narrowlly defined power/acceleration test?
As an owner I can speak for the Valkyrie. The Valks motor is tuned down purposely. Hard throttle gives just a little wheel spin so all power goes to accelerating the bike. You'll get hundreds of thousands of km's, trouble free riding. It's the best engine put in a bike. Ride it hard, shut it off and it won't even tick or ping. It's accessibly priced, the build is sensible. Parts that will suffer wear and road damage are made of replaceable cosmetic plastic but still very tough. I can get over 400km's highway, on one tank of fuel. It's a genuine riders bike. No pretensions, no posing, just a total riding experience and very classy.
at least we all should be realistic. vmax beats rocket 3 in everything. I mean which one is faster in a straight line? which one is faster on twisties? which one handles better? which one is better equipped? which one has better built quality ( this one can be debatable )? the answer is vmax the only thing rocket has better than vmax is the fuel tank capacity
Javed faziljaved You wouldn't put 30 kilos of luggage & a pillion on a V-Max and ride it for 300 miles in a day though. You might as well say the CBR1000RR is better than the VFR1200 because it goes faster, when the comparison is pointless.
These two are not anywhere near - same class of machine... so for a cruiser - Rocket lll does pretty amazing against the wild Vmax - so then try a top gear 50 mph roll on - guess who wins in real world stomp and gut wrenching torque (yeah get your #'s correct here) This is a fun test - but also like comparing apples to pears !
What good is a lot of torque when even with allot more CCs it can't put it to the road like a smaller bike with less CCs the Triumph really seems like a novelty bike just big numbers and nothing and sub pat components.
both very cool bikes but i just dont see them as real races bikes i mean yea it can run a 10 second 1/4 but with its weight its not to practical. i think the triumph looks great with those headers though.
This is an extremely unfair comparison and no matter what you say at the end your objective was clear you took them to the drag track where the Vmax as you stated was specifically made to be and the rocket 3 was not the Rocket 3 is a power Cruiser it's meant for long rides and to be able to be doing 60 miles an hour on a freeway and have some semi start to lose control and you flip the throttle and boom you're gone all from torque why don't you try a roll-on test from 45 miles an hour and see what happens also take that five extra Grand you dump for the VMAX and put it into some Rocket 3 Performance Parts because the Rocket 3 is seriously injured buy both exhaust and air intake this was one of the crappiest and most single-sided comparisons I've ever seen and I have owned both bikes my opinion is not jaded it's a clear opinion on what they are
Vmax seems to be a brilliant ride, but I can't look at it. What a mess. Rocket III seems like a bike I can live with each day and any machine pulling 10's at the strip are fucking scary.
Triumph Rocket 3 all the way!!! Also, not an accurate test whatsoever. Comparing two motorcycles with a price tag separation of $6,000 is like comparing a Challenger Scat Pack with a Camaro ZL1. It's just not an honest comparison that ignores the separation of technology benefits the Triumph would gain if an additional $6,000 would be put into the machine. Nice drag strip shots though.
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I have owned both, 2005 VMAX which I sold a couple years ago and bought a 2013 triumph rocket 3 roadster, both are great bikes and excel in the conditions they were designed for. The VMAX price tag killed it, which is why as far as I know they were discontinued, where the rocket 3 changed it's looks and evolved in a crotch rocket looking bike, the older rocket 3s that have a cruiser look are far better looking
I just saw this all these years later. I bought a 2018 VMax and only added a Corbin seat ( to lower it a bit. It does work), backrest and Denali Sound Bomb. Its awesome...
Enjoy your 2018 . I bought a 2016 new and love it. Yes the gas mileage sucks but there's plenty of gas stations around and after 90 miles I need a rest anyway.
A second gear take off on the R3 makes quite a difference. It's a comparison of sorts but it's apples and oranges really. I still prefer the Rocket. There's really nothing like it.
The biker media always puts the Rocket up against the Diavel & V-Max in tests.
The Rocket 3 is a traditional cruiser. It weighs over 300 kilos, is covered in chrome, and can be purchased in full touring spec - it isn't a performance bike. It is about torque and that cruiser riding exoerience... so why not put it in a review against big Harleys & Indians?
Is the Rocket so much better that comparisons are superfluous?
Probably the closest thing to it is the Honda Goldwing Valkyrie.
In short.. yes. There is no HD or Indian that are even in the same class as the stock Roadster for power, cornering, or braking of the showroom floor. The Roadster and Touring share the same motor, every single part, zero difference mechanically. The Touring is neutered from Triumph, but $10 cable and a free tune can fix that and give full power, 130hp/145lb-ft at the wheel with nothing but ECU changes. You wont find another touring cruiser on the market capable of the same speeds as the R3T, period. It may not be a sportbike, but don't get confused, it IS a performance bike when compared to the other bikes in the same class.
A built motor R3 with suspension work done can reach just about 45 degrees lean + run 8.99 1/4@155mph, street ridden, street legal doing all that. No extended swing arm, no straps, no slicks, no drag suspension, no race fuel, no ram air, no quick shifter, no air shifter, no 2-step, all that crap other sub 9 second bikes tend to run. There is nothing on 2 wheels that's street legal that will beat it in the 1/4 or to 186mph.
Rob W that is why genius! the idea is seeing if this super cruiser can match the performance of those motorcycles traditionally build for speed.
Niidea1986 I'm considering buying a cruiser... the Diavel / V-max are for drag racing, hooning or posing - they don't have the range, pillion comfort or luggage capacity for 2 up touring... in the real world I suspect there are more people like me who are interested in how an R3 stacks up against Triumphs own Thunderbird models and the various big cruisers than against the Diavel & V-Max - yet I can hardly find any good quality comparisons from any point in its decade long production run.
Owners of the R3 in the states report that it is a proper cruiser capable of carrying lots of luggage, a comfortable pillion ride and a capable tourer that they do ride in that manner - so why is it so rare to see it treated as such in the bike press?
Rob W probably because R3 was not designed with the character of your average cruiser; let's be real, there is a huge mismatch between R3's power plant and the limits in performance of a cruiser, but people feel atracted to the R3 precisely for that engine, it is the best marketing hook that it has. Now I don't want you to think I am an expert or anything near that, I am a city biker who learnt to ride while delivering fast food and both of this monsters go beyond my spending power, but just using logic tell me if you think a cruiser motorcycle with this monster engine at it's core would really be more comfortable than another one easier to tame... But I understand your point of course, I was also looking for a video talking about other aspects of this bike to satisfy my curiosity and found none.
I have ridden both and I really like them both and would choose either one over practically any other bike on the planet. I have to say though that even if the prices were similar I'd go for the Rocket 3- theres' some indefinable mystique about it that makes it both a classy and scarily quick ride but I am a Triumph fan.
Vmax should be reviewed against other bikes that fall within the power cruiser catorgory. Ducati's Diavel or KTM 1290 super Duke for example. The Rocket is more of a retro styled cruiser which just happens to make lots of Torque. Triumph quote 146 bhp and 163flbs torque. Dissapointing when review is not accurate. Triumph easily returns over 200 miles to a tank compared to 80 on the vmax when riding at 80mph+. Difficult to "cruise" when you're always filling up. I think the Triumph looks way cooler and at $7000 cheaper than the vmax its a good deal.
Super duke isn't a power cruise at all. It's a naked super bike.
My brother had the vmax and loved the looks and presence but the fuel range killed it for him... me too as when we we were out for a ride he spent most of the time looking for filling stations. If your idea of fun is having crowds around your bike looking at it while you sit drinking coffee then go ahead... me I would sooner ride.
I get between 160 and 180 mpg, with such a big tank, can't ask for much more.
The VMax is really a street fighter.
i've had my 2014 Rocket III Roadster (2 years now)and what many people forget when comparing this bike to others is how affordable this motorcycle is; for 16K not sure you will find a Goldwing certainly not HD. Corners excellent as well as braking is superb. Those on the fence need to pull the trigger soon as I believe the End of Life is soon due to the new Euro 4 emission standards.
With Brexit I hope the U.K. won't have to follow any more stupid European directives.
Could you sound less enthusiast when reviewing Muscle Bikes dude? :-/
Their both cool bikes. I bought a 2011 Triumph R3 Roadster, I LOVE IT...Went from So. Cal up 395 to Seattle, WA and back south on Hwy. 1 with my wife. Most fun I've ever had on a bike road trip. Thanks Triumph !!!
I've ridden the rocket iii touring and found it a bit too heavy and not very agile. Probably good for the highway riding but in town ridings a bitch. It's lower to the ground so not much for clearance rounding the corners.
I did, however, buy a 2014 Triumph Rocket III Roadster and wow......what a difference. The weight of the bike still sits low however, the seat height and the frame in general is higher. A lot more stability and agility. I can lay this thing down pretty far while rounding corners without scraping the pegs. I have a performance kit on it as well as a new exhaust system. Brought the hp up to 195 and a nice increase in torque as well. At this point I'm pretty sure my roadster would kick the vmaxs ass now.
But......we really shouldn't be comparing the two. These are two very different bikes. The vmaxs is designed for the track, yes it's upright seating position implies "cruiser" but this is more of a sport bike than anything. The rocket iii roadster is a muscle bike. It's a cruiser that's meant to pack a punch. This is designed for casual riding but gives you the power when you need it for overtaking on highways or when you get stuck behind a stinky truck on the back roads.
When it all comes down to it......it's all about what you like. Motorcycling promotes and encourages individuality. Everyone is different, so what works for you might not work for someone else.
Me personally, I love my triumph rocket.........but I wouldn't give someone the stink eye for riding a vmax.
Robert Vinson II I've been thinking about the Rocket but haven't got to sit on one yet so here is a question; I'm just under 5'8" and although it's a good while since I dropped a bike I heard if you can't get both feet completely flat on the ground, this is not a good choice, i.e. once it starts to go over, it will go over. From the riding position would you say that it's off limits for 5'7" - 5'8" riders?
No, I had a friend of mine who's around 5'6" sit on it and he could almost flat foot it. You can easily lean it on one leg at a stop sign/light. Once you roll the throttle it'll straighten out. It is a fairly heavy bike, however the rocket roadster is lighter and more nimble/agile than the touring and the classic rocket. You should be in shape....have strong legs, back and arms. If you're worried about possibly dumping it, then I'd recommend front a rear dresser bars to protect the bike as well as not letting it go too far down. If you have strong legs you can easily push against the bike with your back and lift with your legs.
The bike is definitely not for inexperienced riders. You must have extensive experience with heavy bikes. The turning and braking confidence is a lot less than on a sport bike or a smaller cruiser.
I would also recommend getting a windshield...........the torque is so insane that with the torque and wind combined it's hard to stay on the bike when quickly accelerating. It really forces the arms to stretch which is why upper body strength is key.
I hope I answered your question. Any further questions are welcomed.
Robert Vinson II Many thanks for your feedback, that's the most useful practical advice I've read; Sounds like too big a step from my CB600F so I might wait another year or so, probably pick up a bigger heavier bike for the interim and try my buddy's V-Rod a few times before I go for it.
You should check out the Kawasaki Vulcan900 custom / Vulcan meanstreak or vaquero.......all really great bikes. The vaquero is a bagger but sits low and is perfect for people of average height. The meanstreak and 900custom are sportier bikes with great hp and torque.
Well......i need to retract some of my statement. after riding the roadster model for awhile i started getting pretty bad pain in my back and knees due to the seating position. I ended up trading it in for the touring model and upgraded the air filters and exhaust system. believe it or not but the touring has nearly the same power has the roadster after retuning it for the tors exhaust. After riding it for about three weeks now i realized that the touring is more agile due to the smaller tires and is better on the highway due to the longer rake. ive come to the conclusion the the roadster is good for a straight line but not ideal for much more. it is an insane bike and thrill seekers will definitely get their rush on it. but the touring seems more ideal for longer rides as well as commuter rides. fuel economy is way better than the roadster and the seating position alleviates knee and back pain. not to mention the windshield, and backrest/luggage rack are quickly detachable. the nice big and pretty hardbags are detachable as well with just a slight turn on each screw in the bag...two per bag.. also fog lights come standard on the touring as well as front and rear dresser bars. shocks are also 100xs better on the touring as well as the seats(touring dual gel seats come as standard) you definitely get more bang for your buck with the touring model.
a couple issues with the touring model does not display what gear youre in nor does it have a tachometer. the speedometer is on the gas tank so you have to look down alot. the gas tank cover is not lockable however you can get one through the triumph store. putting fuel into the r3t is also pretty difficult and takes very slow and careful pumping in order to completely fill the tanks without splashing everywhere.
id reccomend doing more research and also checking out the triumph promtional offers as they currently have some high value vouchers to customers.
keep an eye out, ill be doing a review video of my 2014 r3t soon
Neither the Yamaha or the Ducati in my opinion fall under the cruiser classification, the Rocket is a classic and true bike that's a cruiser in all fazes with the exception its not a traditional V twin, so what! its a pure cruiser that can go 200 miles on a tank of gas and none of the other 2 can due to the Crotch rocket styling of them. yes they are fast and can go 0-60 in 2.8 seconds, but then you need to go get gas cause its empty. I do have to say and agree that the Rocket III is not for an average person in stature, its a VERY big bike and yes heavy, but fun! I own one and love it....
"Very well said" (BE SAFE)
I would figure that it would work well as a single person cruiser for folks who have previously owned tour bikes and know how to handle and manuever the bigger boys.
Both are faster than a car that's what you need to get yourself out of a scary situation. You cant go wrong with neither one their both good capable bikes but if you like long distance and don't want to spend your time at the pump the triumph is probably the better choice.
How remarkable!
Pitching a sports tourer against a hooligan muscle-bike and reaching the obvious conclusion.
I am quite sure that if the Max was put up against a TTS turbo Triumph it would be a closer-run thing. (Two different power to weight ratios are almost bound to give different results)
and with the $6000 difference in the price point, you can send the rocket to Carpenter Racing...he will turn the rocket in to a beast making 245 rwhp and 195 rear ft/lbs of torque...as of recent these bikes are running low 9.2x at 152.x on pump gas....
his package is a drive in drive out and is 100% bullet proof.
Not sure where this guy gets his 132 ftlbs for the Rocket, mine has 144 ftlbs at the wheel as stock. triumph claim 163 at the crank.
also very misleading to say the rocket is arm pulling but no match for the vmaxs "brute force", which spins the wheel in the 'lower' gears (1st 2nd & 3rd?).... my rocket spins the tyre in 3rd too (stock).
the vmax has the advantage of lighter weight and higher hp, meaning it faster once it rolling, but the rocket definitely has the advantage off the line due to the ridiculous tq and fat tyre. in the end (imo) they do a 1/4 in approx the same time.
this guy found it easier to get a better time on the vmax because of this difference in power delivery. he said it himself, it took a whole load of clutchwork on the rocket - read: he isnt skilled enough to launch a bike with that torque.
Seriously? The rocket is absolutely no match for the Vmax at the strip. Even my Gen 1 Vmax can beat a rocket any day of the week.
haha nice try. my dad can beat your dad
Arto Del Funko There is no try. There is do, and there is do not.
#facepalm
The problem is they were wrong about about the mighty max's power too. It makes in the 200 hp range. The track numbers prove it. The triumph may get the jump with a good rider, but I'd bet within 120' the max will be pulling away easy. That V4 isn't an in line 4 (no matter what the fake sound effects they threw in sounded like). It's really torquey too.
they do make a number of much more manageable bikes. The Rocket (as stated in many reviews) is not a novice bike. Scrambler and others, see Triumph web site, are more along that line.
vmax are without a doubt great bikes, but there is only so much you can do on roads with all the power etc, (within the law I mean) then it comes down to preference, mine was the Rocket, my triumph before it was the America it was also a sexy bike just not fast enough, the Rocket is a gorgeous bike and I like the cruiser style of riding but the rocket is not full cruiser riding the pegs are further back and leaning into the corners like a sports bike rider feels totally natural but so does sitting back like a cruiser ride, I think its awesome, cant wait for warm weather!!
It sounds like the V-Max is the pretty clear winner here, so I don't know why he didn't say that
Carew Martin because there would be even more triumph owners offended in the comments xD
Because it's a personal choice. I have been a V-Max owner, admittedly back in the 90's. They are right, it's a hooligans bike. Now I ride a Rocket. Would I go back to he V-Max? Simple answer is no. Sure the V-Max performs better when you want to race but, for me, it's not all about racing. Besides I have done quite a lot of after market stuff to her so between mine and a V-Max there isn't so much difference, also thinking of putting a supercharger on her. If I do then mine would leave a stock Busa in it's dust. There is nothing like riding the Rocket. You have to ride one to understand. Go test ride one and I bet it will be days before you can wipe the grin off your face:))))))
@@Niidea1986 Arent you precious.
@@papatruss 'He's still mastering his scooter.
@@papatruss The new V-Max is a completely different beast. Stock ones have a limiter, but if it's removed it gets to 180mph scarily quickly.
On top of that, there's a supercharger kit that'll push it to 300whp. It's an insane bike.
They certainly do. The Triumph America and Speedmaster are excellent first choices.
Absolutely agree, mate... America is top-heavy and completely unwieldy at low speed... both the Storm and the Roadster handle much better... have owned all three... regarding this video, these lads are completely switched off and not understanding the Roadster at all... best motorbike I’ve ever owned...
I have had my rocket for a year its awesome!!! wouldent change it for anything.
very nice vmax , I ride mine all the time
Good review. Ironically better than some biased british reviews. I have the Rocket. Its not fastest. Not the best handling. But.it is what it is. I like it. But like some british reviews comparing the ducati to it. They just arnt the same purpose, Or style. You would think they would have more support for it. But no.
Wrong test v max is a drag bike while Triumph is pure touring joy with undisputed torque......
What speed was he doing at 1:13 before the front wheel jumped? 40mph?
@O7ROADKING The triumph is detuned not tuned hence the lower power
I also own a rocket roadster and it is AWSOME and i wouldent swap it for any other bike.
Just found your video... Now, it's Yamaha for me as, I still have my 1998 V-MAX with 38k miles on it. I removed the old air filter system and 9000lbs factory exhaust pipes. I can tell you this, the Gen-1, hates corners. If you have ever ridden a motocross bike hard, pulling at the bars to hit that apex corner, that's petty much what the older MAX is. It will fight you in the turns and it wants to sit straight & center. Also it wants to go straight. Zero to bazillion point & shoot bike. As for the new MAX... I can't help you there.
@lamilumag yeah but you'd have more torque if you tuned it a bit
Thank you! I thought I recognized some of my riding areas!
I own a rocket and it kick ass, its a great motorbike in all aspects
There is no comparing any bike to the VMAX!
Also the vmax never got over 100 miles to the tank so Im used to it.
On problem here. They are comparing the R lll Roadster to the V-max. They should be using the standard Rocket which has 142hp to the wheel which I own and have beat the V-max several times. I also owned at 1987 V-max which I liked.
The Roadster *is* the standard, more powerful, version vs. the touring. I just checked the website and it's 148ps vs. 106 on the touring. It's pretty silly though - these engines are so easy to push 200 hp at the wheels, but they come so derated from the factory.
0-62 mph in 2.5 seconds and there’s a recorded 2.1 bone stock. Just tell me where the Triumph will even get close to that?.. The Max has 168ft lbs and 197bhp restricted... Mine spins up at 120 mph if you hit it hard and that’s on good Bt-028’s ...
The Vmax just needs a little feathering on take off to get the most, it rapes anything on takeoff, period when it comes to production bikes. It’s not too shabby on cornering, but I’ve seen the horizon spin a few times for sure on exiting corners... It’s one hell of an engine, and the Vmax is all about the torque for it makes all of the 197bhp fully useable...
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Vmax all the way for me..since I bought my first one brand new in 1985👍👍👍
Prefer the Rocket III myself !!!
Surely it should've been a VMax v V-Rod ?? !!
But I feel that a 2015 Ducatti Diavel might be best of all as an all round Super Naked ?? !!
VRod is a joke compared to the VMax. Harleys make no power, they forgo that for a cool sounding engine timing.
My first gen 1 VMax 1986 is still the Torque Monster only 140 Hp.
Scrambler, Thruxton, Bonneville are all good smaller bikes for newer riders.
Im sure Im not the only person to see these bikes dont compare.they are not even closely related.why would anyone compare them.its different.they arent aimed at the same buyer.the one is a touring type cruiser and the one is like a UJM street fighter.stupid vids on thetube!
If you watched the end of the video you would have heard them state that there is no clear winner here, just big differences/variants from the style of bike.
I think it's because they're both technically called "power cruisers" but yea you're right. The Vmax kind of has a toe in both camps (sport bike and cruiser) where as the rocket is clearly pure cruiser with a massive engine shoehorned into it. Both are awesome bikes in my opinion, but yea they are definitely way different.
How about sounding like you're not about to fall asleep?
@cmtegaravello well that's just not fair! Yeah I agree I would love to have one also, damn yamaha. Any idea how well these actually sell? because I am yet to see one of the nwe ones over here
This is comparing a sports bike [albeit a big one} to a true tourer. There will be lots of machines that are quicker from a standing start than an 800 lb behemoth, so what? That's just basic physics. The actual point of lots of mass is stability at speed, something at which the big Triumph has no equals. If Triumph were ever to tune this engine and put it east/west in sports frame, it would kill everything.
liar liarliar Would it not ? Keep waiting for it; Brilliant! New Rocket is north / south but sooo very close. Probably better. Sideways, too fall over y ... north / south and bobbed ... probably perfect. We will see :-)
Was the narrator on ludes?
So the Vmax wins. OF COURSE!
You get to understand "tunnel vision" on the Vmax...
He's trying to pull away with too many revs on the rocket and not leaving the tourqe to do the job!
so you try to tell that rocket at 2,5 k rpm where it have 132 ft lb and 60 whp accelerate harder than at 5 k rpm where it have 110 ft lb and 110 whp at the same velocity ? www.r3owners.net/account/dismiss-notice = NO DUDE YOU ARE WRONG = do simple test if you have rocket 3 set up some velocity let say 100 km/h and use gear whcih allow w engine to spinn 2,5 k rpm average so i dont know like 4 or 5 gear at starting point ? how much gear this bike have 5 or 6 ? anyway something like 4 or 5 probably be god for engine spin 2,5 k at 100 km/h and 5 k rpm average so like 2 or 3 gear and measure time to let say 150 km/h or something like this = at rpm close to peak power 5 k rpm time be much shorter and you be feel much stronger acceleration .132 ft lbs with 60 whp at the wheel at the same velocity in fact produce LESS TORQUE AT DRIVE WHEEL AXIS than 110 ft lbs 110 whp at 5 k rpm at the same velocity do math and you see :x the diffrenc beewten both setup be like diffrenc in horsepower so 110 :60 almost 2 Times stronger acceleration at 5 k rpm at the same velocity in the same time what is offcorse corelate you have 2 Times almost more torq at drive wheel axis :) .. its not rocket science :x or maybe it is ;) ..
@@mociczyczki I'm not saying it would win just at them kind of revs the clutch slips as the plates are so weak for a big bike.
@@steveread3890hm dont know to muchaboutclutch setup but start from 4-5 k rpm be faster than from idle rpm on 99 %
@@mociczyczki done 3 cluches on mine, one went within 200 miles. Dosent feel like there's any difference what rpm you pull away at but my bike isn't standard. Still won't beat a vmax until I get the supercharger fitted. 👍
@ArtoDelFunko Good comment.
rocket 3 is god of torque
Look at the Triumph Scrambler. Everyday bike on or off road.
The rocket is a cruiser. The VMAX is really a hyper naked. Can't be compared
"Put an extra 250 lbs. on the Vmax and than race them"
Not really, the Rocket III is only 100 lbs heavier.
CockatooDude I thought the rocket was much heavier, oh well they are both beasts, having said that I personally don't enjoy ridding at such high speeds, when I roll the dice I would rather go to a casino "LOL" Be Safe!
Busa is the ugly bike on earth ! most people aint trying to go thousand mph
Why has the Vmax not had a current view?
I’m only good for about 100 miles at a time so my VMAX is my choice but I’d still love to ride a Rocket 🚀😎
this review makes me angry. how can you possibly compare a cruiser to a vmax which is basically a heavy crotch rocket. They even say that the vmax is PURPOSE BUILT for the dragstrip. the triumph doesnt belong in the same category as a vmax. what they shouldve compared the vmax to is the harley vrod. triumph rocket 3 is a power cruiser not a heavy crotchrocket. meant for comfort AND torque not top speed
No....that's not correct. My Rocket is extremely easy to corner at very slow speeds and resists the urge to fall over due to its low center of gravity. Also, it's very stable on the highway regardless of speed. Its extra weight adds to this stability making it able to ignore wind gusts from the side. Being created for different results, both bikes are awesome and deliver the characteristics for which they were designed.
Vmax has a speed limiter as well.
These bikes are muscle bikes to me. The Vmax is like a newer Mustang or Camaro and the Rocket is like a 60's era drag car. Just different styles/performance .
Hey I will take my Rocket over that way over priced Max any day.
If I was so crazy about more power I would just let the Carpenter boys in NJ tweak her a little and say bye bye to everyone!
The Maxxxo is IT !! We have to face this fact :)
Another pointless comparison.Why not compare the Rocket against the Yamaha Roadliner or the Suzuki bagger or the Kawasaki vulcan or the Goldwing,or the Victory Crosscountry?
Or why not test the Vmax's abilty to handle long distance trips,instead of a narrowlly defined power/acceleration test?
The rocket is for big guys who have trouble fitting the smaller bikes but want the smaller bike performance.
can someone do a comparison of rocket 3 roadster vs valkyrie or rocket touring vs a golding?
Here's an article:
ultimatemotorcycling.com/2014/08/13/honda-valkyrie-vs-triumph-rocket-iii-roadster-review/
As an owner I can speak for the Valkyrie. The Valks motor is tuned down purposely. Hard throttle gives just a little wheel spin so all power goes to accelerating the bike. You'll get hundreds of thousands of km's, trouble free riding. It's the best engine put in a bike. Ride it hard, shut it off and it won't even tick or ping.
It's accessibly priced, the build is sensible. Parts that will suffer wear and road damage are made of replaceable cosmetic plastic but still very tough.
I can get over 400km's highway, on one tank of fuel.
It's a genuine riders bike. No pretensions, no posing, just a total riding experience and very classy.
Not to mention the enormous price difference.
at least we all should be realistic. vmax beats rocket 3 in everything. I mean which one is faster in a straight line? which one is faster on twisties? which one handles better? which one is better equipped? which one has better built quality ( this one can be debatable )? the answer is vmax
the only thing rocket has better than vmax is the fuel tank capacity
Javed faziljaved You wouldn't put 30 kilos of luggage & a pillion on a V-Max and ride it for 300 miles in a day though. You might as well say the CBR1000RR is better than the VFR1200 because it goes faster, when the comparison is pointless.
Rob W trucks can do that job better. I think we should not be buying bikes cuz we want them to haul more and more weight.
it's 170 foot lb of torque on the rocket
Come on, guys. That's a review worth better than some sleep-talking voice-over!!!
vmax is the best!
How about comparing the Triumph to another cruiser which is what the Rocket is. Always a Vmax or Diavel ...
I dig that rocket III
Take the mufflers off. Vmax gang.
Yamaha vmax is my choice.
These two are not anywhere near - same class of machine... so for a cruiser - Rocket lll does pretty amazing against the wild Vmax - so then try a top gear 50 mph roll on - guess who wins in real world stomp and gut wrenching torque (yeah get your #'s correct here)
This is a fun test - but also like comparing apples to pears !
the difference of a second is negligible. I'd take the Rocket for its styling
What good is a lot of torque when even with allot more CCs it can't put it to the road like a smaller bike with less CCs the Triumph really seems like a novelty bike just big numbers and nothing and sub pat components.
That engine can handle quite a bit of tuning, though. They can easily be supercharged and even then it will cost the same as a stock vmax
Ive had many gen 1 vmax's, but cant afford a gen 2.. miff
One thing they didn't mention, my V-max could barely run an hour and a half on a tank of gas if pushed hard. Sold it for a lighter bike.
both very cool bikes but i just dont see them as real races bikes i mean yea it can run a 10 second 1/4 but with its weight its not to practical. i think the triumph looks great with those headers though.
VMAX ALL THE WAY.
The Vmax has a British motor?
Brutish motor.
Triumph is $6000 cheaper and nicer looking!
can vmax wheelie just as easily as rocket. ?
@ArtoDelFunko its about torque - he sais it 64. times
v-Max!
This is an extremely unfair comparison and no matter what you say at the end your objective was clear you took them to the drag track where the Vmax as you stated was specifically made to be and the rocket 3 was not the Rocket 3 is a power Cruiser it's meant for long rides and to be able to be doing 60 miles an hour on a freeway and have some semi start to lose control and you flip the throttle and boom you're gone all from torque why don't you try a roll-on test from 45 miles an hour and see what happens also take that five extra Grand you dump for the VMAX and put it into some Rocket 3 Performance Parts because the Rocket 3 is seriously injured buy both exhaust and air intake this was one of the crappiest and most single-sided comparisons I've ever seen and I have owned both bikes my opinion is not jaded it's a clear opinion on what they are
Saw the rocket dynoed at 97.7 HP at the wheel. (video on the tube)
Most of them dyno around 120-130whp bone stock. The Touring model and some of the older models are detuned
Did the commentator fall asleep towards the end there?
@ArtoDelFunko don't tell me 140hp and 221nm isn't enough for you ^^
Does Triumph make a beginner - immediate level bike? Everyday bike wanted.
I thought vmax is 200hp
they say about heel horsepower vmax have shaft so 15-20% power losses at specified speed v.
i wish triumph didnt down-tune the engine as much, 140hp is nothing out of a 2.3ltr engine.
Vmax seems to be a brilliant ride, but I can't look at it. What a mess.
Rocket III seems like a bike I can live with each day and any machine pulling 10's at the strip are fucking scary.
zac its taste and all but.... cmon the vmax ugly? the most beautiful bike for me.. kinda shocked someone considers the vmax ugly tbh xD
Triumph Rocket 3 all the way!!! Also, not an accurate test whatsoever. Comparing two motorcycles with a price tag separation of $6,000 is like comparing a Challenger Scat Pack with a Camaro ZL1. It's just not an honest comparison that ignores the separation of technology benefits the Triumph would gain if an additional $6,000 would be put into the machine. Nice drag strip shots though.
This commentator always sounds like he's reading.
i´ll buy the v-max... (if i will get the cash) and i haven´t seen the vid yet.... :) love that bike
i own both bikes pure fun
For the money, vmax all day
Anyone wanna trade a vmax for my rocket ?
***** you can find there's another chanel who made ducatti diavel vs Vmax , and it seems Vmax had better speed and topspeed
Put the v max against a Motus that would be interesting.