My Tronnor heart is broken. I'm sad for Con and happy for Troye in the same time, these feelings are horrible.. but I hope Con found his peace and happiness, and I kind of hope that they will interact again someday..
to anyone who ever said tronnor isnt real listen to this interview and then go listen to the good side...connor had it rough these past couple of years any fan of his would know...put two and two together...
Alice Maya connor references being "broken" and "destroyed" beyond repair in note to self, and that he feels completely alone and drained, as well as struggling with depression and being "broken after being broken up with", the direct quotes are really heartbreaking honestly.
As soon as I got to the lyric "and catch up on everything" when I first listened to this song, I immediately thought about Connor. Tronnor was my otp, back when it was a thing, and felt so heartbroken and sorry for Connor, whenever he mentioned the words "breakup" and "depression", in all the videos revolving around his book, note to self (which is one of my favorite books I've ever read). At the same time though, I'm proud of Troye for still being able to live the life he wanted to live, and was able to find someone new. At this point in time, I still love, and look up to, both Troye and Connor equally and immensely; the only difference is that instead of shipping them, I've been looking up to them as individuals. I do hope though, that if Connor does end up listening to this song, and listens to what Troye has to say, that he would accept Troye's apology. Not only that, but maybe one day, the two would be able to meet up, talk things out, and maybe even go back to being friends, like they were before they were dating... or at least, maybe the both of them would be able to finally move on from the things that happened between them.
Andrés Zamora in the beginning of one of the chapters, he says these 2 things: "on this very day, my heart was ripped out, thrown on the ground, jumped on, smooshed, trampled, and smudged into the earth." "My two-year relationship ended right before my eyes, and there was nothing, I repeat, NOTHING I could do about it; it was like being a witness to a car crash played out in slow-motion."
if it wasn't Connor though, all these comments about connor everywhere surrounding The Good Side would be really awkward for every one involved, Troye, Connor, the actual ex, and Jacob too...
D if you look at the sushi photo in Connor’s book you’ll understand. The hand in that pic is Troye’s (see Connor insta 2015 dec 2) and the poem next to the photo literally says they were tgt and then they broke up but Connor was troye’s “first everything”
Aliza Acas no if i had to take a good guess, considering he talked about it like it was a long relationship, I’d say he’d be referring to Connor Franta
tronnor shippers are still questioning around even tho there's sum proofs. tbh can tro or con just answer our question omfg. we just wanna know if it's true or nah. jesos.
He once said that the song "for him" was meant as a gift to someone, IS A LOVE LETTER ONLY FOR THAT ONE. In the end he put it on an album, toured around the world, sang it for someone else, the whole world didn't need to understand what happened and sang along with him. AWESOME, Mr. TROYE SIVAN!
my little tronner heart. i kind of thought that this was about connor, but also i thought that it was me making that scenario up in my head to help my ship seem more real. the reason why i think it's about connor is because it does make some sounds that sound 'technology like' and it made me think of like youtube, then correlating with connor. i could be delusional but agh just let me cry in peace.
Ugh if it’s that hard for us to imagine how hard it is for both of them how hard it was for Troye to write and sing it and how hard for Connor to listen to it love is a bitch 😭💔
Peter The Bloxer it’s not ever been confirmed (and most likely never will) but connor and troye used to be together all the time and then one day it just... stopped. and the way troye described the breakup in this video and in “the good side” is pretty much exactly what connor described the break up as (but from the other perspective) in his book. hope that helped!
Also they were both in relationships at that time in their lives and they weren't pictured (like from paps) with anyone else, plus the way Troye's family used to interact with Connor is similar to the way they interact with Jacob
Peter The Bloxer In the begining of their friendship(relationship) they were always together. When I say always, I really mean always. They were traveling together, going out together collabing with other youtubers when they were together. But they never made a video of just them too, idk maybe they thought that it will be weird. When Connor droped "a work in progress" book, Troye was so proud and he was always telling about it. Also when Troye droped the album, he wrote "thank you to my beautiful boyfriend" and Connor used to express how much he likes bnbhd.. and also he was always quoting song lyrics in his videos.. etc.. and then all of that stopped. They stopped hanging out, going out together, speaking and when people ask troye about connor he changes his subjects, the same with connor. He stopped talking about troyes songs, etc.. absolutely everything stoped. And then Connor droped trailers for Note To self, his book, and we can see how he was strugling in the past.. also in his book he explains "a break up" that he went through.. and a break up that was very painful abd horrible for him. Also we know that troye had a boyfriend in the same time like connor, but they didn't talk about it.. there is so much more, but the words from the recent song say it all(if you are a fan of connor and troye for years)
I think they never really made it public because atbthat time Connor was still in the closet or just came out and also don't think they wanted the drama/press if they did make it public.
Yeah, the breakup really hit Connor very badly it seems and it took him some years to get over it. Maybe he never really will get over it completely, but instead will (or already has done) come to terms with it. It was obvious at the time that Connor was very much in love with Troye so the breakup must have been quite traumatic for Connor. I noticed some years ago that Connor had blocked any messages that people had left underneath his TH-cam videos whenever the word 'Troye' was used in the comments.
Victoria Gallegos because its too hard to deny that they were a couple. theres too much evidence pointing towards the fact that they were a couple and basically nothing saying they werent.
updatingtroye im not hating or anything on tronnor their cute but im just saying like what if he is talking about someone in his personal life who isn't well known.
Victoria Gallegos bc in 2015 when Wild came out he mention in a letter his beautiful boyfriend then went on tour with Connor so if Connor wasn’t said boyfriend why did he bring him instead of the boyfriend. Also when the supposed break up happened in beginning of 2016 Connor stayed back in LA and they haven’t spoken online since. We don’t know for sure but all evidence points to it. Also Connor wrote about a break up in early 2016 in his book
Kimily D'Kim search connor Franta on TH-cam and watch a few of his videos. There’s tons of proof they were together but I don’t feel like explaining all of it so you could search tronnor proof or something
Because their sudden lack of interaction at the beginning of 2016 points to a break up. They were inseparable in 2015 and you can all scratch that to platonic relationship but Tyler is also friends with them at that time but he is still close to Troye (and Tyler is back to being friendly with Connor now) even now, so what's up with the silence between Troye and Connor? Most of their shared friends also unfollowed/avoided Troye at the beginning of 2016. Remember that Troye and Jacob later admitted how they started going out in early months of 2016. And listening to Troye's Plum and Good Side songs, it talked about a break up with a very special person in your life. Connor himself talked about how shitty 2016 because of a break up. Seriously, it's not that hard to connect these events. Based on Plum, it's Troye who fell out of love and broke the relationship, thus the apology.
Aww, but it's all ok, Troye. Now you sing "For Him" to a guy that it wasn't even written for. A song that you quote: "specifically" wrote to another person as a gift. Wow, isn't that sleazy?
SAME! But at this point I just really want the friendship back and it kinda is but I never shipped tronnor, I was always and still am a troyler oops haha
saying like no offence meaning but... haha but that's what I thought. A very happy bean, a spoiled child and he... just... ya, has a pure soul (?) so he got rid off all things he thought annoying, unnecessary and after that, he turned to the next chapter of his life. Yay. Cool. Great.
After hearing the song and knowing it’s about Connor makes it even sadder
So true
I just want to hug Connor
How do you know its about connor? Like was it confirmed?
+Lara Zrinski that's who he dated around that time. so it makes sense. it was not ever confirmed but it was basically confirmed.
Ryland said they dated.
My Tronnor heart is broken. I'm sad for Con and happy for Troye in the same time, these feelings are horrible.. but I hope Con found his peace and happiness, and I kind of hope that they will interact again someday..
omg my tronnor heart cant take this
Awww, he's writing a song dedicated to connor. I can't take it! ("For him" was about con too, I apologize)
Asia Lorine insert "bitch me too, the fuck" meme
and put jacob on the cover?
cuddleswithtroye It's not Jacob, it's Troye
for him. was about connor
Yea but that was before they broke up :(
connor's let me explain vid was next in my recommendations I FEEL ATTACKED
literally same holy shit im-
Same thing happened to me, i feel broken inside.
SAME
am sø dun with life ME TOO
mE TOO
to anyone who ever said tronnor isnt real listen to this interview and then go listen to the good side...connor had it rough these past couple of years any fan of his would know...put two and two together...
Ellie It makes 4 amar8 ?
My heart, it is about Connor :,(
Where can I find this full interview?
Thanks! Xoxo
Kim O. if i were to take an educated guess i would say yes its about connor, and the full interview is only up as an audio on apple music
There's a reason why those two suddenly stop communicating and meeting. im feeling bad for connor but at the same time im happy for troye.
i felt so bad while reading note to self and now this song :(
suga D will u please quote some lines from note to self coz i am not able to get that book...
Alice Maya connor references being "broken" and "destroyed" beyond repair in note to self, and that he feels completely alone and drained, as well as struggling with depression and being "broken after being broken up with", the direct quotes are really heartbreaking honestly.
bieberxhemmo Thank u a lot ♥
@@bella-je5yc "desTROYEd" :(
God I hope no one ever makes a hit song trying to apologize for having a better life than me after a breakup.
John Davies but it’s actually so sweet of troye :((( he has a pure soul
ohmygod i never realised how cruel this would be to connor despite knowing troye wrote it with good intentions
My exact feelings
"I met someone new" that's the hardest part!!!
As soon as I got to the lyric "and catch up on everything" when I first listened to this song, I immediately thought about Connor. Tronnor was my otp, back when it was a thing, and felt so heartbroken and sorry for Connor, whenever he mentioned the words "breakup" and "depression", in all the videos revolving around his book, note to self (which is one of my favorite books I've ever read). At the same time though, I'm proud of Troye for still being able to live the life he wanted to live, and was able to find someone new. At this point in time, I still love, and look up to, both Troye and Connor equally and immensely; the only difference is that instead of shipping them, I've been looking up to them as individuals. I do hope though, that if Connor does end up listening to this song, and listens to what Troye has to say, that he would accept Troye's apology. Not only that, but maybe one day, the two would be able to meet up, talk things out, and maybe even go back to being friends, like they were before they were dating... or at least, maybe the both of them would be able to finally move on from the things that happened between them.
what does Connor talk about the break up on his book? i dont have money to buy it but I desperately want to know what he wrote about it1
Andrés Zamora in the beginning of one of the chapters, he says these 2 things:
"on this very day, my heart was ripped out, thrown on the ground, jumped on, smooshed, trampled, and smudged into the earth."
"My two-year relationship ended right before my eyes, and there was nothing, I repeat, NOTHING I could do about it; it was like being a witness to a car crash played out in slow-motion."
Troye obviously has moved on.. I just hope this song is not going to remind connor about the past that he tried damnnn hard to forget
I just wish all the best for Conner after listening this song!
@@Zoejo Hearing these words, I couldn't hold back my tears.
from "for him" to "the good side" i wanna cry
ok im sorry but i still think his ex is connor FigHT ME
PhanAtTwentyOneDiscoLorens honestly that's about as controversial as saying puppies are cute
truthfully
He confirmed it in today’s video (con)
@@DaisyCalzada really? omg where can I watch it?
@@chelyn5019 th-cam.com/video/FJNlArObd9k/w-d-xo.html
"i got to meet someone soon after" *ahem jacob*
like i was a troyler shipper but i think this was about connor tbh.
Well in Connor's book trailer he said that he fell in bad depression and it could have maybe been his break up so it must be troye
I feel stupid asking this but how is connor? I mean wasn't Jacob his first boyfriend??
@@hekarituan3859 I wrote this 3 years ago sksks I don’t even remember what this was about anymore lol
Okay I'm late to this...
are y'all talking about CONNOR FRANTA?
It’s like a sequel to swimming pools
Connor?
Yessss and I am bawling my eyes out!
Patrick Fresno Connor, as in Connor Franta?
Patrick Fresno yup :(
CONNOR IM SO SORRY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
tronnor :(
Now that read connors book and listened to this song I am so emotionally invested in this:(
I just felt all my 2014 tronnor theories die
the good side is such a good song i love it so much but also this song genuinely makes me so upset bc of how painful the process was for connor
he said.. met someone soon after the breakup. That someone is jacob? 😃
Axl bn sounds like it
Yes, Troye & Jacob met in early 2016 I think, so it makes sense
Yeah veryyyyyy soon like not troye soon but soon soon
Yes I think so
It's even cruel to be an apology after a long time and u got someone new.
How does Conner really feel? :(
oh i see a connor video in recommended section of this video and the title is "let me explain" tell me what kind of sorcery is this?
Aw they followed each other on social media again (Troye and Connor)
I THOUGHT WE WERE DONE WITH THIS SHIT TOO MANY EMOTIONS. COMING. BACK.
if it wasn't Connor though, all these comments about connor everywhere surrounding The Good Side would be really awkward for every one involved, Troye, Connor, the actual ex, and Jacob too...
D if you look at the sushi photo in Connor’s book you’ll understand. The hand in that pic is Troye’s (see Connor insta 2015 dec 2) and the poem next to the photo literally says they were tgt and then they broke up but Connor was troye’s “first everything”
Me, after reading Note to Self and then listening to The Good Side: don't talk to me I am nOT OKAY
He's not talking about Jacob right? Because they're still together right now.
Aliza Acas no if i had to take a good guess, considering he talked about it like it was a long relationship, I’d say he’d be referring to Connor Franta
+updatingtroye oh right, yes I think so.
Aliza Acas I almost had a heart attack for a second
+Amando Pando yeah same here lol but it's impossible because Jacob just posted a photo of Troye few days ago. so yeah, he might really meant Connor.
same here
omg connor:,(
gemmablissful is it Connor franta?
Nickolas Smith probably
tronnor shippers are still questioning around even tho there's sum proofs. tbh can tro or con just answer our question omfg. we just wanna know if it's true or nah. jesos.
Why is connors video ‘let me explain’ in my recommendations...
same
Same wtf
All these tronnor stans in the comments 😂
Daniella de Kok lol you're me😂
😂
Caption: “his most recent break up”
First words out of Troye’s mouth: “it’s about a break I went through *a while ago*
Don’t scare me like that!
FanOf ManyThings same. I thought the recent break refer to him and Jacob noo
Omg this is about Connor franta and I am dying
IM CRYING HE WROTE SONGS ABOUT CONNOR.
the good side, for him. and tronnor really went fast from being lovey dovey into AJHSAJHSJWHS mess
Litterally crying just because I know Tronnor is now officially completely and utterly dead....
😭
My tronnor heart wasnt ready for this
Maybe you're listening. So here's one last song for you.
He once said that the song "for him" was meant as a gift to someone, IS A LOVE LETTER ONLY FOR THAT ONE. In the end he put it on an album, toured around the world, sang it for someone else, the whole world didn't need to understand what happened and sang along with him.
AWESOME, Mr. TROYE SIVAN!
CONNOR CONNOR CONNOR IM SO FUCKING SAD NOW WOWOWOWOOWWO
my little tronner heart. i kind of thought that this was about connor, but also i thought that it was me making that scenario up in my head to help my ship seem more real. the reason why i think it's about connor is because it does make some sounds that sound 'technology like' and it made me think of like youtube, then correlating with connor. i could be delusional but agh just let me cry in peace.
I honestly thought Jacob is his boyfriend liek wtf. I thought Tronnor isn't real. **chokes** I'm hating myself rn.
I started tearing up knowing he was talking about Connor omg
wow.. this song is really abt connor....
I love how my next recommended video is from conner saying "let me explain". TH-cam confirmed it guys❤
But it's not like we didn't know it all along lol
my tronnor heart
My tornnor 💓
do u know anything about where i can listen to it?
Brayan Ramírez comes out at 8:30am PT
but it already came out, didnt it?
Brayan Ramírez no his song My My My! came out a week ago, but he just recently announced, earlier today, the new song The Good Side
It just dropped
On his yt channel
I still feel sad. but also it's good to know that he knew what Connor have gone through. If only😢
Ugh if it’s that hard for us to imagine how hard it is for both of them how hard it was for Troye to write and sing it and how hard for Connor to listen to it love is a bitch 😭💔
How does everyone know it’s about Connor ?
Peter The Bloxer it’s not ever been confirmed (and most likely never will) but connor and troye used to be together all the time and then one day it just... stopped. and the way troye described the breakup in this video and in “the good side” is pretty much exactly what connor described the break up as (but from the other perspective) in his book. hope that helped!
Also they were both in relationships at that time in their lives and they weren't pictured (like from paps) with anyone else, plus the way Troye's family used to interact with Connor is similar to the way they interact with Jacob
there are lots of vids on youtube that show more evidence of it and stuff too
Peter The Bloxer In the begining of their friendship(relationship) they were always together. When I say always, I really mean always. They were traveling together, going out together collabing with other youtubers when they were together. But they never made a video of just them too, idk maybe they thought that it will be weird. When Connor droped "a work in progress" book, Troye was so proud and he was always telling about it. Also when Troye droped the album, he wrote "thank you to my beautiful boyfriend" and Connor used to express how much he likes bnbhd.. and also he was always quoting song lyrics in his videos.. etc.. and then all of that stopped. They stopped hanging out, going out together, speaking and when people ask troye about connor he changes his subjects, the same with connor. He stopped talking about troyes songs, etc.. absolutely everything stoped. And then Connor droped trailers for Note To self, his book, and we can see how he was strugling in the past.. also in his book he explains "a break up" that he went through.. and a break up that was very painful abd horrible for him. Also we know that troye had a boyfriend in the same time like connor, but they didn't talk about it.. there is so much more, but the words from the recent song say it all(if you are a fan of connor and troye for years)
I think they never really made it public because atbthat time Connor was still in the closet or just came out and also don't think they wanted the drama/press if they did make it public.
Yeah, the breakup really hit Connor very badly it seems and it took him some years to get over it. Maybe he never really will get over it completely, but instead will (or already has done) come to terms with it. It was obvious at the time that Connor was very much in love with Troye so the breakup must have been quite traumatic for Connor. I noticed some years ago that Connor had blocked any messages that people had left underneath his TH-cam videos whenever the word 'Troye' was used in the comments.
great now im crying
HE'S TALKING ABOUT CONNOR I'M CRYING!!!!
Is it a coincidence that the guy in the single cover art looks a little similar to Connor ?
Luis Felipe Duarte thats troye in the cover art hahaha
For anyone that watches this, yes Connor is his ex th-cam.com/video/FJNlArObd9k/w-d-xo.html Connor talks about it in a qna video he posted 6mths ago
I was in math class emailing my friend about my research about this song and TRONNOR and then we met at lunch and I just cried
Omg I’m crying
how come everyone saying tronnor when it was never even confirmed
Victoria Gallegos because its too hard to deny that they were a couple. theres too much evidence pointing towards the fact that they were a couple and basically nothing saying they werent.
updatingtroye im not hating or anything on tronnor their cute but im just saying like what if he is talking about someone in his personal life who isn't well known.
Victoria Gallegos he could be! we dont know, just telling you why most people thought it was tronnor
Victoria Gallegos bc in 2015 when Wild came out he mention in a letter his beautiful boyfriend then went on tour with Connor so if Connor wasn’t said boyfriend why did he bring him instead of the boyfriend. Also when the supposed break up happened in beginning of 2016 Connor stayed back in LA and they haven’t spoken online since. We don’t know for sure but all evidence points to it. Also Connor wrote about a break up in early 2016 in his book
Ryland Adams said Troye and Connor dated.
Awww....Connor. ❤️❤️
I'm a new fan... who's Connor? :'3 uh... Is his boyfriend or his ex bf?
connor franta is a youtuber and most likely troyes ex-boyfriend. neither of the boys confirmed it but its hard to deny it
Kimily D'Kim search connor Franta on TH-cam and watch a few of his videos. There’s tons of proof they were together but I don’t feel like explaining all of it so you could search tronnor proof or something
I’m crying
Oh Troye.
there are actual tears rolling down my cheeks rn rip
and I’m crying
im crying
My heart breaks for Connor. 💔
Same! I hope this song doesn't reopen an old wound.
Tronnor😭😭
I am sorry... but he refers to his ex as “she”... 0:04
Y CP haha he said ‘the sheer nature...’
I am sorry lol
oh my god. I love this so much
This makes me so sad ):
THANKS FOR UPLOADING THIS VIDEO I'M SO HAPPY TO SEE THIS ONEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
How much i loved their friendship ♥
Wait how does everyone know this is about Connor?
Because their sudden lack of interaction at the beginning of 2016 points to a break up. They were inseparable in 2015 and you can all scratch that to platonic relationship but Tyler is also friends with them at that time but he is still close to Troye (and Tyler is back to being friendly with Connor now) even now, so what's up with the silence between Troye and Connor? Most of their shared friends also unfollowed/avoided Troye at the beginning of 2016. Remember that Troye and Jacob later admitted how they started going out in early months of 2016. And listening to Troye's Plum and Good Side songs, it talked about a break up with a very special person in your life. Connor himself talked about how shitty 2016 because of a break up. Seriously, it's not that hard to connect these events. Based on Plum, it's Troye who fell out of love and broke the relationship, thus the apology.
Sorry Idk the whole story but what happened to Connor and Troye ? Or why did they break up ?
Connor?
Aww, but it's all ok, Troye. Now you sing "For Him" to a guy that it wasn't even written for. A song that you quote: "specifically" wrote to another person as a gift. Wow, isn't that sleazy?
youtube recommended connor's video to me in this video
I know it’s a connor... is it Connor Franta?? bcus my little heart will melt if it is...
lottie VC it is
oh my my my my my my my can't help it :(
Good for him. I'd wish to be on the good side of things.
Once beautiful
damn this hurts my heart
im not crying u are
yo solo quiero que Troye sea feliz =) ame la cancion!
tronnor
cryingggggg
Ngl I'm still hoping this is Tyler
nah i doubt it. they still tweet to each other a lot.
SAME! But at this point I just really want the friendship back and it kinda is but I never shipped tronnor, I was always and still am a troyler oops haha
troyler was never ever real.
ᴀᴅʀɪᴀɴɴᴀ I don’t recall asking for your opinion🤷🏼♀️
they probably messed around like no strings attached, I'm positive =)
he has a spoiled child attitude
What do you mean?
saying like no offence meaning but... haha but that's what I thought. A very happy bean, a spoiled child and he... just... ya, has a pure soul (?) so he got rid off all things he thought annoying, unnecessary and after that, he turned to the next chapter of his life. Yay. Cool. Great.