@Zabermoul Savage! - It will be good to finally see some Frost DK PVE Action - I have a 333 and I can't shake the feeling I'm not utilizing all the talents correctly. Looking forward to it!!
@WilliamCold I understand why Obliterate is bad for the runes, but I didnt know Frost Strike and the other spells ignored resilience, I thought resil reduced all damage done by a player, but I could be wrong
@Roxamification if u have ever been in an arena u would notice that diseases will do alot of dmg because sometimes u run into comps that give u long 10min arena matches and diseases help alot especially vs people that constantly kite u
Really good vid :) still, i wonder what rotation and/or macro(s) u use? cuz i often see like, let's say rogues, that uses macros and different rotations to like 1-hit u in bg... really annoying.
@Ruigeroel if you know a thing about dk's in pvp and dmg making you would just know things that unholy presence goes for all dps specs and pvp specs exept the blood cause running speed increase and you get runes off cd quicker and you get +++ haste so its really too well viable atm for every pvp spec all ways
@xUpRoar Now thats not true. Boosting your runes and making sure your diseases are up at any time means you have to have a certain rotation. If im up against a healer I spam NS as its the only thing you can do as Unholy...Situational of course.
Am I missing something, half of the comments say you dont use obliterate because of resilience cuts the damage in half, so you should use frost strike instead... BUT doesnt resilience lowers that damage as well? Seems like obliterate crits for so much more, and the runes are really not a problem unless your bad and PVP as frost presence. Help me understand, whats wrong with obliterate?
So i've been unholy for the longest time..but i keep hearing how frost is much better for dps..i wanted to know should i be more focused on 2h frost or the 2 one handed one??..or does it not matter because mop changes talents anyways..someone plz help >_
@dal00c18 Ok all apoligize's to the uploader i found out that it did not jsut turn a blood rune to a death rune, it activates one meaning it instantly refresh one My bad! :S
well.... obliterate is a main damage dealer as well same as frost strike and howling blast, just u need to know when is the best time using obliterate. i can make 14-35k dmg/crit yellow dmg in 2v2 while frost strike only make 10-24k on same target. and all that with trinket proc and pillar of frost. obliterate can make your opponent healer panic. depend on opponent class and gear. my current gear is using 3 vicious set bonus gear. so, if u well geared, probably more dmg - to cata 4.0.6 2h frost
@Zabermoul I saw your other video's and they were actually quite good and I think I can off a bit to /Nerdrage but you'll never get passed 20k on cho'gal being in unholy pres. or any other 25m for that matter. I've ran countless tests, rawr..etc Frost Pres on boss > unholy you dish out 5k% (Dw) ... As for Frost PvP .. Best way to explain it is to try it. you gain more RP which = More frost strike .. Thanks for the reply though
As much as I like these pvp guides, I feel like there needs to be more. Show some BG or arena clips. I'm not sure about openers and priorities. I just took my DK off the shelf and anything other than blood tanking is kind of foreign. Good video
when i play frost i dualweild and play in unholy because it may decrease damage given but increases the chance to use them so it basically make a freakin plated up rogue. fricken sweat
guys...really...I have tested it and FS, NS and HB is the way to go. Dueled with both plate and cloth armored players with aproximately the same amount of resilience and the damage output of obliterate is consistently lower. Obliterate is stil good as an execute indeed. The main problem with it is that it gets reduction from armor, being a phisical dmg ability. FS ignores armor totalu ( but not resilience). So really if you dont belive me try it out. The FS, NS and HB combination is better.
@nexusbird121 That doesn't make any sense, this video is ment to be informative and directed to new death knight players. If you are looking for pvp videos go to Zabermoul channel and watch his. This video is awesome, I watched the whole thing and learned quite a bit of things. My dk it's at lvl 83 by now, I already bought all the crafted plate pvp set and I'm planning to use the normal bg spec for when I get to 85, why? because it makes totally fucking sense. Cheers mate.
from lvl 68 up ive pvped as blood cause imo frost sucks im lvl 75 still pvp in blood cause imo, i prefer the heals from blood and its better against frost mages, ive almost never been beaten by a frost mage. one question at higher lvl has frost got more survivability?? and is 2h better than dw
true but u gain the stuff u need to use frost strike by usuing obliterate and it prcs alllllll the time so u need it. and for each hit u get on obliterate it procs and gets u runes for frost strike so obliterate is neccasery...... howling blast frost strike and leading dmg id obliterate for dks and tats pretty much your whole rotation
Are warriors still geting nerfed??? coz on the patch notes about there mortal strike and shit geting Reduced its gone !!!!!! could it be we are not geting nerfed no more ?
@Zabermoul ''This talent is really really awesome.....then this 1 is REALLY REALLY AWESOME and then THIS talent IS SO REALLY REALLY AWESOME ITS GREAT!'' lol ^^
@Zabermoul Savage! - It will be good to finally see some Frost DK PVE Action - I have a 333 and I can't shake the feeling I'm not utilizing all the talents correctly. Looking forward to it!!
Once again, a nice video from Zabermoul, I'm waiting for your next guide and some awesome frost pvp/bg video ;)
Great guide, look forward to the next one.
FINALLY A FROST DK PVP GUIDE THANK YOU!
keep up the good work bro, i see u have real good motion graphic skills nice
lol@ the ad.
They already tried "on live" years ago, it was called the Sega channel.
It failed miserably
@WilliamCold I understand why Obliterate is bad for the runes, but I didnt know Frost Strike and the other spells ignored resilience, I thought resil reduced all damage done by a player, but I could be wrong
QUESTION. duelwielding or 2hander for pvp
good fkn vid, best dk vid ive seen on tgn
Can someone tell me the name of the addon for the action bars? They look amazing. They are like the ones in Rift. Thank you in advance. :)
What do you prefere, dual wield frost, or frost with a 2h weapon?
DAMN I OWN IN BG'S WITH THIS SPEC DUDE KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK! forgot the cap:P
nice job man,keep the good work...
When does the next episode come?
Rime is also possible talents to drop, since the patch isnt soon...
@PolakInsignia it isent, that goes for both pvp and pve
What RuneForging do you suggest on 2H and Dual-Wielding?
@Roxamification if u have ever been in an arena u would notice that diseases will do alot of dmg because sometimes u run into comps that give u long 10min arena matches and diseases help alot especially vs people that constantly kite u
You are helping me out greatly. I have a question, how do you have so many talent points?
do u need glyphs or do they only make a little change?
now what does more damage. 2h or dual?
@doggiemex what are you def? I can understand him just fine.
@tgnworldofwarcraft ZaberMoll what Unitframes and Bar addons you got PLZ =D
Really good vid :) still, i wonder what rotation and/or macro(s) u use? cuz i often see like, let's say rogues, that uses macros and different rotations to like 1-hit u in bg... really annoying.
whats the dk tanking talent tree?
i ended up changing to frost dual wield they do ridic amount of damage..i might look into tanking too because blood spec is OP
Whats better better 2h or Dual Wielding?
What presence is best? unholy or frost?
name of add-ons used for ui ?
@Ruigeroel if you know a thing about dk's in pvp and dmg making you would just know things that unholy presence goes for all dps specs and pvp specs exept the blood cause running speed increase and you get runes off cd quicker and you get +++ haste so its really too well viable atm for every pvp spec all ways
@xUpRoar Now thats not true. Boosting your runes and making sure your diseases are up at any time means you have to have a certain rotation. If im up against a healer I spam NS as its the only thing you can do as Unholy...Situational of course.
Can you make one of these for PVE?
Am I missing something, half of the comments say you dont use obliterate because of resilience cuts the damage in half, so you should use frost strike instead... BUT doesnt resilience lowers that damage as well? Seems like obliterate crits for so much more, and the runes are really not a problem unless your bad and PVP as frost presence. Help me understand, whats wrong with obliterate?
What's the best PvP spec now ? The latest one. Please send me a message.
So i've been unholy for the longest time..but i keep hearing how frost is much better for dps..i wanted to know should i be more focused on 2h frost or the 2 one handed one??..or does it not matter because mop changes talents anyways..someone plz help >_
What you DANE !? awesome and nice vid bro!
great video thanks for the info
whats better dw or 2h
where is 2:59?
what addon is he using?
@dal00c18 Ok all apoligize's to the uploader i found out that it did not jsut turn a blood rune to a death rune, it activates one meaning it instantly refresh one
My bad! :S
Blade barrier is amazing, Frankly go 3/31/7 6% damage reduction is huge... Its like 500 resil or something..
well.... obliterate is a main damage dealer as well same as frost strike and howling blast, just u need to know when is the best time using obliterate. i can make 14-35k dmg/crit yellow dmg in 2v2 while frost strike only make 10-24k on same target. and all that with trinket proc and pillar of frost. obliterate can make your opponent healer panic. depend on opponent class and gear. my current gear is using 3 vicious set bonus gear. so, if u well geared, probably more dmg - to cata 4.0.6 2h frost
@Zabermoul I saw your other video's and they were actually quite good and I think I can off a bit to /Nerdrage but you'll never get passed 20k on cho'gal being in unholy pres. or any other 25m for that matter. I've ran countless tests, rawr..etc Frost Pres on boss > unholy you dish out 5k% (Dw) ... As for Frost PvP .. Best way to explain it is to try it. you gain more RP which = More frost strike .. Thanks for the reply though
old talent i miss you so much!...
dude where is the 2end part?
nice vid btw :p
Hey what addons you use, pls pm me
btw n1 videos...
Why "Nerves of Cold Steel" and "Threat of Thassarian" when u'r using a 2H weapon ?
what is your addons? :D
Jean Claude Van Dam joined TGN??! Awesome!!
Someone help plox
Two Hand or One Hand best?
As much as I like these pvp guides, I feel like there needs to be more. Show some BG or arena clips. I'm not sure about openers and priorities. I just took my DK off the shelf and anything other than blood tanking is kind of foreign. Good video
Improved Frost Presence + Might of The Frozen Wastes + Killing Machine + Glyph of Obliterate is what i use. MotFW in 4.2 is nerfed by 2%
FINALLY @@ I love it :p
NICE VID I LIKE IT!
thank you. very helpful :)
Threat of Thassarian??Howling Blast??MERCILESS COMBAT? Where's those talents men? Those are epic
when i play frost i dualweild and play in unholy because it may decrease damage given but increases the chance to use them so it basically make a freakin plated up rogue. fricken sweat
guys...really...I have tested it and FS, NS and HB is the way to go. Dueled with both plate and cloth armored players with aproximately the same amount of resilience and the damage output of obliterate is consistently lower. Obliterate is stil good as an execute indeed. The main problem with it is that it gets reduction from armor, being a phisical dmg ability. FS ignores armor totalu ( but not resilience). So really if you dont belive me try it out. The FS, NS and HB combination is better.
In bgs dw is beast in but 2h for arenas better burst and better rp generation for heals and utility
How many really's were there? :)
@nexusbird121 That doesn't make any sense, this video is ment to be informative and directed to new death knight players. If you are looking for pvp videos go to Zabermoul channel and watch his. This video is awesome, I watched the whole thing and learned quite a bit of things. My dk it's at lvl 83 by now, I already bought all the crafted plate pvp set and I'm planning to use the normal bg spec for when I get to 85, why? because it makes totally fucking sense. Cheers mate.
@RECONSECC Of course
Danish ftw! Nice video zaber ;)
@evil8675309 theres no rotation in PvP its always situational. I would have thought you knew if you have alreadyplayed Unholy PvP.
hm in PVP u dont use Oblit unless its on clothes
whooo star wars is coming in 3d!!?? best commercial evar:D
wow do more pls. :)
Oh man, it's Farengar Secret-Fire!
No spec/class officially "sucks" in duels, it all depends on the player.
How good is this in 2024?
from lvl 68 up ive pvped as blood cause imo frost sucks im lvl 75 still pvp in blood cause imo, i prefer the heals from blood and its better against frost mages, ive almost never been beaten by a frost mage. one question at higher lvl has frost got more survivability?? and is 2h better than dw
true but u gain the stuff u need to use frost strike by usuing obliterate and it prcs alllllll the time so u need it. and for each hit u get on obliterate it procs and gets u runes for frost strike so obliterate is neccasery...... howling blast frost strike and leading dmg id obliterate for dks and tats pretty much your whole rotation
@Miau1pt Just because he's not a 2200 rated player doesn't make him wrong.
@Lildeath55 That's what i'd like to know!
Just got my dk to 85 now making him my main he's insane lol
dude one thing, never take down the runic power increase
!
you need the runic power im alway at 100 all times during a fight
i can do this in 1 min to find out glyphs and spec for pvp.
Nice guide, tnx alot but it seems most "things" are really really really good could use some more nuances.
Still big thumbs up tho!
Are warriors still geting nerfed??? coz on the patch notes about there mortal strike and shit geting Reduced its gone !!!!!! could it be we are not geting nerfed no more ?
"Oh you have to do this or other whys your just really really bad" 15:54
HAHAHAHA Thats cracked me up!
You cant use Blade Barrier cuz u dont have any blood Runes
PVE for dk.....pleez
23 mins to show how to spec and glyph? :o
@Skaersholm96 You're*
@MeleeHuntard its his first episode cut him some slack
I LOVE YOU!
@Zabermoul ok sry im not that into DKs and my bud said that and i belived him.
someone needs to watch king's speech
"Awsome, Really Awsome... This is a must!"
"Nuke the shit out of people"
Lol thats all i heard.... Not hateing! Good Vid!
hey dude
are you danish ? :)
He sounds like Bam Margera
@TheCaptinhazmat "def"? That`s why you can understand him.^^
@TheToxiicgogglezz used to play that, and i love wow now, it is confusing but i find it very fun :)
if anyone want to see this guide in action check out my latest dk pvp video
@rjtoth1 Thanks a lot :D
@Xylar0811 lol
Still waiting for part 2. I'm unholy and kinda sick of it. Wanna try Frost but im pretty unsure about rotations and so on.
@Zabermoul ''This talent is really really awesome.....then this 1 is REALLY REALLY AWESOME and then THIS talent IS SO REALLY REALLY AWESOME ITS GREAT!'' lol ^^
Wtf i don't get those glyph things