The 6.5 Grendel turned out to be a perfect round for my circumstances. Before a full shoulder replacement I hunted deer in Michigan with a .308 most recently having some 150-200 yd shots across fields. After the shoulder however I was not able to handle the kick of my AR-10, which I sold. Using a 5.56 is illegal for Whitetail deer hunting in my state,a bummer seeing I already had 2 5.56 AR-15's. Then I found the 6.5 Grendel upper could be used with my already owned AR-15 lower. The Grendel has plenty of punch to drop a deer at 200 yd with ballistics I am used to. It also barely kicks more than a 5.56 and MUCH less than the AR-10. A perfect gap fill between the 5.56 and the 7.62 x 51.
6.5 grendel, with 140 rdf and 28 grains AA 2520 from my 18 inch match barrel runs 2300 fps at the muzzle 1644 energy and 1211 at 1000yds with 457 energy. No pressure signs. Love it in my small package AR 15
I hunt with both a CZ 527 and a Howa Mini in 6.5 Grendel. My load is H335 behind a Nosler ABLR 129 grain bullet. The velocity is 2580 in the CZ and 2500 in the Howa. Last year I shot a medium sized 8 point Coues whitetail at 505 yards on the Mexican border in AZ. The deer was facing me at an angle and the bullet went in the shoulder and exited the off side around the kidneys. The deer walked 15 yards and fell over. The terminal damage was extreme. I shot a very large 8 point the year before at 485 yards with the 6.5 Creedmoor in a Ruger American Predator. That deer went down immediately. Both have their place but I do love these extremely lightweight Grendel mini rifles when humping around rugged mountains at 6000-8000 feet.
I enjoy the 6.5 Grendel. It isn't Zeus's lightning bolt do-all, but works well on light game to 400 with proper ammo and shot placement. I am a big fan of 168gr+ 7mm Rem Mag for heavy critters. I use a 26" 168gr 308 for distance. That's simply because I learned long range with in the USN.
I have a Grendel in an AR took an antelope with it with one shot this year. Love the 6.5 Grendel. Two years ago I took an antelope with my 6.5 Creedmoor with one shot.
Good review. I have both uppers for AR15 and LR308. I have CM in a bolt gun. The CM upper is 24 in and makes the LR308 platform a heavy beast. I would not want to lug it around and offhand shooting is tough. The Grendel is very mild to shoot and I may try it at one spot I hunt where the distances are not much past 200 yards. I will say I put three good shots on deer last year and they all ran a little. I’ve heard of people anchoring deer with the CM but I’ve not had that experience. There was devastation in the chest so there just must not have been enough of a power dump. I was using 143 ELDx hand loads at about 2700.
Good video explaining the differences and characteristics of both. I just bought a Bear Creek fluted 18" and then found out two other guys at church have Grendels too. Have read about some break-in on the mags. Everyone of us that use the Grendel should be taking 5 minutes to call AND email service of the ammunition companies and SCREAM for ammo. It's the only way the ammo is gonna get back on the shelves any time soon. Lots of us are reloading, but to get it to the masses the producers have to feel the same pressure they felt over the common calibers!
I ignored the initial reports of feeding and weak bolt face issues that plagued the 6.5G in ar-15 platforms. Bought one, immediately had mag feeding issued even when using the Alexander mags. Still an Excellent round, just wish I’d done bolt action
I've been thinking about the 6.5 Grendel in the past few weeks. Know enough about the 6.5 Creed but actually turned away from the Grendel round about 10 years ago when everyone thought that the 6.8 spc was going to take off as the leading AR based round. Thx.
Great timing I just had a discussion about this yesterday and was going to ask your thoughts on the Grendel. Awesome as always my friend. Still have a lot of the custom loads in the 7.08 but always hunting for something fun.
@@Thebiggamehuntingblog I think it’s a neat round and may be something in the future I tinker with once there is a little more of the grendel ammo available to play with. In an AR platform I am still enjoying my 300blk and in no hurry to over spend on another gun or ammo. Sent you a FB message as well. 👍
I like my Grendel. I like my 308. I like my 30-30. Just follow the basic rule for most game is 1,000 ft/lbs of terminal force and expanding bullets for maximum energy transfer.
Thanks for all the info. I've decided Grendel first, creedmore later. I'm in Florida and the whitetail are fairly small on average compared to other states. I think Grendel will do the trick!
I want a creedmoor but just can’t justify it until I get invited on an elk hunt. Where I hunt, a long shot is 200 and an average shot is +/-50, which makes the grendel plenty for the job. That’s all before we talk about how, as a left handed shooter, I like semi autos and lever actions better or that you can just have the upper shipped to your door to slap onto another lower. I’m wanting a savage impulse in creedmoor, but need a reason… or more disposable income.
I have both and left hand shooter. I have both left and right handed bolt guns but never had an issue using right hand guns. I personally like being able to see the chamber. Regarding you comment about elk hunting, 6.5 creedmoor would not be on my list of choices. I would take my 270 or buy a larger rifle.
For me the winner can only be 6.5 Grendel, as necessitated by shoulder surgery. And that’s with a semi-auto. A few years after that experiment I tried to help my son get ready for deer season so I got his 6.5CM “on paper”. I was done after 6 shots. Ouch! Anyway, last year I decided to put together an AR308 in 6.5CM and that worked out much better as long as I put the recoil pad more on my chest than on my shoulder. I’ll never be a precision shooter with it but I could manage. Post surgery I’ve had to adjust my priorities but I don’t really feel very undergunned, Grendel is a pretty slick round that I load to the highest velocity.
Hello John and I have to give credit where credit is most certainly due. If I want to learn as much as I can about any hunting platform, your channel is where I first look. Although not my favorite cartridge, the 6.5 mm Creedmoor has to be the most efficient and forgiving for load development that I have ever owned. My daughter loves to shoot this gun and she is really enjoying experimenting in her own load development. Well I have a chance to purchase an AR-15 Grendel and it really looks as though it is quite forgiving as well as long as you keep it in it's distance bracket. This one will probably go to another daughter. But I greatly appreciate this channel and thank you very much!
Thanks Jeff! Glad to hear from you as always. I'd say to get that 6.5 Grendel. It's good for deer sized game and smaller at reasonable range and I think it's the best all-around hunting cartridge for the AR-15 platform.
Thank you again, John. I like that both rifles are recoil-forgiving. We want to avoid the girls developing a flinch. I think she'll be happy with the rifle!
By the way, are you on my email list? If you like these videos, you'll probably love my emails. Send me an email at john@thebiggamehuntingblog.com and I'll add you if you haven't already joined
I have them all including .260 Rem, 6.5 Creedmoor, and many 6.5 Grendels. What I found with the same bullet, same barrel length, the .260 Rem and 6.5CM hit the Grendel's mv at anywhere from 175-225yds. The question you have to answer is, does the added weight/bulk/recoil, muzzle climb off-target, and reduced brass life justify the additional performance. Sometimes the answer for me is yes, especially when I'm shooting farther and want higher hit probability from 800-1200yds. You can bite the heels of the Creedmoor with a 28" barrel and Extended Length Gas System, even shooting 140s.
I prefer my grendel over my creedmoor. Grendel in fusion msr ammo has dropped deer and hogs. Creedmoor I've shot horndady Whitetail and they have run with perfect lung/heart shots. First half of blood trails non existent until the chest filled with blood then easy to follow. Just never had to track with grendel.
I use both in semi automatic platforms the AR-15 and 10 my Grendel is awesome out to around 800 maybe 1000 haven't had a chance yet but my creedmoor shot a 3/4 inch group at 200 yards such and easy rifle to stack rounds on top of each other
I've been a fan of 6.5 sweed since the 80tsy but since then I have a prc and a Grendel they are great but there l think the killing power is from the 6.5 diameter
Thank you for providing a reference sorce for explaining to my friends that even though these cartridges have similar names they are not very much alike.
I disagree that the 6.5G “slightly” narrows the gap between 223 and 308. It’s really right in the middle between the 223 in terms of caliber, wounding capability, and downrange energy/wind drift. It’s not a “slight” improvement over the 223. It’s a remarkable one
I really like my 6.5 Grendel AR and it sure has been an improvement overall in the AR15 as a battle rifle, the mags have a 25 round capacity and even though you lose 5 rnds of capacity the performance is worth it. If I were to hunt deer the Grendel would work but would feel a .243, 6.5 Creed or better would be more suited and for anything bigger such as Elk or Aoudad you really cant beat a 28 Nosler...
i own both and have hunted white tail and wild hogs with both. I much prefer the 6.5 Grendel i really don't know why but i have found with the grendel everything i shoot drops in it's tracks and with the 6.5 Creedmore we usually have to track the animal. With that being said i have never lost an animal with the Creedmore they usually drop within 100 yards. My longest kill was with the grendel at 408 yards on a 190 lb buck and he dropped right where he stood. Another big advantage to the grendel i find is recoil i hunt with an AR and my son is a small kid so having the versatility of a adjustable stock is great and the low recoil allows us to hunt together with only one rifle.
The 6.5 grendel is king. It's can do everything hunt. Defense. Longer range. Light recoil. 6.5creed is great also. I love both as much as my 30 06 or 35remington.
Any thoughts on 6.5 grendel and 6mm arc? 6mm arc looks good on paper but ive heard accuracy is struggling out of the ar-15 platform which it was touted to be designed for. biggest thing holding me back on grendel is lack of velocity when shooting 123 gr pills. anything smaller than 123 gr the BC seems to suffer.
Go grendel. Highest bc 6arc is 108gr Hornady a tip.velocity 2670fps. Bc .536. 6.5grendel has Federal Gold Medal Match Berger with a bc of .560 130grn at 2550fps. A Much better hevier higher bc bullet moving just as fast. And wolf and ppu makes cheep ammo for 6.5. grendel it's better to use the heavy bullets. They perform better on target at range than any 6arc. 6arc is just a Hornady hype cartridge that does nothing better. But Hornady hypes it like it's some new majic.
Also grendel has over 30 companies making it 6arc has 1. Grendel is a better 556 308 replacement. 6atc is small game cartridge in my opinion. It also isn't popular in Europe like PPUammo and Sellior and bellot ammo. Serbia adopted it militarily. Russia makes arms and ammo for it. Psa is going to continue steel cased ammo production on 6.5grendrl.
Love my 6.5 Grendel AR15, by CMMG. They use a robust BCG to account for the robust power of the round. I've had zero issues with mine. Word to the wise, use a heavier buffer weight and stiffer spring in your buffer tube or the recoil/kick will do a number on your shoulder and follow up shots will be difficult.
I have a( SaberDefence )mid length 6.5 grendel with 16in chrome lined barrel. Wanted a 18in. It's mil spec upper with dry film in the upper pinned gas block with bayonet lug. Fail zero 6.5grendel nickel boron BCG with (Lantac Dome Cam pin installed) It was a little gassy. So i Contacted (Cozad Manufacturing LLC)and i bought a( Cozad)recoil buffer. It's like a hydraulic buffer but uses no oil. Is mil spec weights h-h4 uses 3springs and a tungsten weight instead of hydraulic fluid. Like kynhot recoil reducing ar15buffer. Cozad Helped my recoil by 25%.it was bad It's been 100% reliable with 26rd(c products). 24rd (ASC) magazines. And Ross defense( uni mag)- now defunct. I think it (Cozad)slows cycling down. And helps recoil. I envy ur cmmg but I have less than 1000$ in my grendel. It's lightweight. It's bcg is 60rockwell. But it's definitely not a power bolt of cmmg. But I'm poor and have to piece together guns. But look up Cozad they are a small veteran business e With good product. And I put my Frankenstein build against any Daniel defense
I wouldn’t get the grendal I built 2 now 1 with a 20 inch bear creek up and 1 with a palmetto state I can’t get anything better than a 2 inch group at 100 yards out of either 1 loading everything from 85 to 129 grain and every powder in the Hornsby manual
That is great information. Been looking at 6.5 grendel but also the 6mm arc. I would enjoy your input on a 6mm arc vs 6.5 creed or 6 creed and or 308. I'm leaning towards the 6mm arc for both my grandsons at ages 5 n 7 since I know they handle my 224 valkyrie well.
Only problem is finding components for 6mm arc. Either way if you go with 6.5 grendel the 115 barnes ttsx is fantastic out of 18 inch barrel gas gun. I do hope howa mini actions do allow for 6mm arc they are only weigh 5.7 pounds and come 20 inch barrel with heavy barrel for longer strings of fire when varmint hunting. They also make a thin barrel option that comes with 22inch barrel. The 95 vmax in grendel is also great for little varmints and coyotes
My 6.5 creedmoor kicks about the same as my 243 but 6.5 is a slightly heavier rifle. If i wanted a deer killer with lowest possible recoil anything in 6mm is good. 6.5 only slightly more kick
Anyone have insight on the pricing of the cartridges listed above? I know 6.5 creedmore is usually $1-$2 per round online. Anyone have local prices? I'm trying to decide what caliber to choose either ar10 or ar15 platform
I consider the 6.5 Grendel the perfect replacement for the 30-30. A solid 300 yard white tail round. HOWA has a new 4.4 lbs bolt action in 6.5 Grendel.
Neither. 6.5 x 55 because it is accompanied by a fantastically crafted rifle. The Swedish Mauser M 1896. Not this trash that modern shooters use like cheap AR 15's.
The best way I found to resolve this question was to get both. Have been using the grendel for hog hunting. I like it on the AR platform.
That's a good way of looking at things!
The 6.5 Grendel turned out to be a perfect round for my circumstances. Before a full shoulder replacement I hunted deer in Michigan with a .308 most recently having some 150-200 yd shots across fields. After the shoulder however I was not able to handle the kick of my AR-10, which I sold. Using a 5.56 is illegal for Whitetail deer hunting in my state,a bummer seeing I already had 2 5.56 AR-15's. Then I found the 6.5 Grendel upper could be used with my already owned AR-15 lower. The Grendel has plenty of punch to drop a deer at 200 yd with ballistics I am used to. It also barely kicks more than a 5.56 and MUCH less than the AR-10. A perfect gap fill between the 5.56 and the 7.62 x 51.
Do you feel comfortable taking down wild boar with it? I'm about to go hunting for wild boar with the Grendel
6.5 grendel, with 140 rdf and 28 grains AA 2520 from my 18 inch match barrel runs 2300 fps at the muzzle 1644 energy and 1211 at 1000yds with 457 energy. No pressure signs. Love it in my small package AR 15
Nice
I hunt with both a CZ 527 and a Howa Mini in 6.5 Grendel. My load is H335 behind a Nosler ABLR 129 grain bullet. The velocity is 2580 in the CZ and 2500 in the Howa. Last year I shot a medium sized 8 point Coues whitetail at 505 yards on the Mexican border in AZ. The deer was facing me at an angle and the bullet went in the shoulder and exited the off side around the kidneys. The deer walked 15 yards and fell over. The terminal damage was extreme. I shot a very large 8 point the year before at 485 yards with the 6.5 Creedmoor in a Ruger American Predator. That deer went down immediately. Both have their place but I do love these extremely lightweight Grendel mini rifles when humping around rugged mountains at 6000-8000 feet.
This is pretty much a no brainer. Grendel in an AR, Creedmoor in a bolt.
I would rather use creedmoor in an AR for the higher velocity
You can get the grendel in a bolt and a Creedmoor in an ar10
I couldn't agree more
My thoughts exactly 💯
You are absolutely right sir its a scary combo
I enjoy the 6.5 Grendel. It isn't Zeus's lightning bolt do-all, but works well on light game to 400 with proper ammo and shot placement.
I am a big fan of 168gr+ 7mm Rem Mag for heavy critters.
I use a 26" 168gr 308 for distance. That's simply because I learned long range with in the USN.
Bingo no more that 500 yards with grendel
The go with what you know is a wise walk.
I have a Grendel in an AR took an antelope with it with one shot this year. Love the 6.5 Grendel. Two years ago I took an antelope with my 6.5 Creedmoor with one shot.
What ammo did you use in each case?
I have dropped hogs and deer with my Grendel bolt action Howa , using hornady 123 sst. No issues all dropped where they stood.
Good review. I have both uppers for AR15 and LR308. I have CM in a bolt gun. The CM upper is 24 in and makes the LR308 platform a heavy beast. I would not want to lug it around and offhand shooting is tough. The Grendel is very mild to shoot and I may try it at one spot I hunt where the distances are not much past 200 yards. I will say I put three good shots on deer last year and they all ran a little. I’ve heard of people anchoring deer with the CM but I’ve not had that experience. There was devastation in the chest so there just must not have been enough of a power dump. I was using 143 ELDx hand loads at about 2700.
Good video explaining the differences and characteristics of both. I just bought a Bear Creek fluted 18" and then found out two other guys at church have Grendels too. Have read about some break-in on the mags. Everyone of us that use the Grendel should be taking 5 minutes to call AND email service of the ammunition companies and SCREAM for ammo. It's the only way the ammo is gonna get back on the shelves any time soon. Lots of us are reloading, but to get it to the masses the producers have to feel the same pressure they felt over the common calibers!
I have e mailed all companies. Sellior and bellot just e mailed me back. They are making 6.5grendel now. Just hasn't made it to the USA yet.
Update Sellior and bellot are bringing in 6.5grendel. It's small rifle primer. Ppu is also flooded in.
I love my Grendel 🦌
I ignored the initial reports of feeding and weak bolt face issues that plagued the 6.5G in ar-15 platforms.
Bought one, immediately had mag feeding issued even when using the Alexander mags. Still an Excellent round, just wish I’d done bolt action
I've been thinking about the 6.5 Grendel in the past few weeks. Know enough about the 6.5 Creed but actually turned away from the Grendel round about 10 years ago when everyone thought that the 6.8 spc was going to take off as the leading AR based round. Thx.
What are you thinking with regards to the 6.5 Grendel after watching the video?
@@Thebiggamehuntingblog I love the round, it has plenty of knockdown out to 800 yards. Ammo is cheaper for the 6.5 Grendel.
Good explanation
Great timing I just had a discussion about this yesterday and was going to ask your thoughts on the Grendel. Awesome as always my friend. Still have a lot of the custom loads in the 7.08 but always hunting for something fun.
Thanks Stan! What are you thinking about the Grendel after watching the video?
@@Thebiggamehuntingblog I think it’s a neat round and may be something in the future I tinker with once there is a little more of the grendel ammo available to play with. In an AR platform I am still enjoying my 300blk and in no hurry to over spend on another gun or ammo. Sent you a FB message as well. 👍
Great info! Very helpful overview
Glad it was helpful!
Very well explained. Excellent work. Thank you.
Glad you enjoyed it!
I like my Grendel. I like my 308. I like my 30-30. Just follow the basic rule for most game is 1,000 ft/lbs of terminal force and expanding bullets for maximum energy transfer.
Nothing wrong with that!
Thanks for all the info. I've decided Grendel first, creedmore later. I'm in Florida and the whitetail are fairly small on average compared to other states. I think Grendel will do the trick!
Well done review, big 6.5G fan.
Glad you enjoyed it!
I want a creedmoor but just can’t justify it until I get invited on an elk hunt. Where I hunt, a long shot is 200 and an average shot is +/-50, which makes the grendel plenty for the job. That’s all before we talk about how, as a left handed shooter, I like semi autos and lever actions better or that you can just have the upper shipped to your door to slap onto another lower. I’m wanting a savage impulse in creedmoor, but need a reason… or more disposable income.
I have both and left hand shooter. I have both left and right handed bolt guns but never had an issue using right hand guns. I personally like being able to see the chamber. Regarding you comment about elk hunting, 6.5 creedmoor would not be on my list of choices. I would take my 270 or buy a larger rifle.
@@acort10 would you use a 30.06 for elk? I have a 30.06, but only have hunted deer with it
For me the winner can only be 6.5 Grendel, as necessitated by shoulder surgery. And that’s with a semi-auto. A few years after that experiment I tried to help my son get ready for deer season so I got his 6.5CM “on paper”. I was done after 6 shots. Ouch! Anyway, last year I decided to put together an AR308 in 6.5CM and that worked out much better as long as I put the recoil pad more on my chest than on my shoulder. I’ll never be a precision shooter with it but I could manage. Post surgery I’ve had to adjust my priorities but I don’t really feel very undergunned, Grendel is a pretty slick round that I load to the highest velocity.
Hello John and I have to give credit where credit is most certainly due. If I want to learn as much as I can about any hunting platform, your channel is where I first look. Although not my favorite cartridge, the 6.5 mm Creedmoor has to be the most efficient and forgiving for load development that I have ever owned. My daughter loves to shoot this gun and she is really enjoying experimenting in her own load development. Well I have a chance to purchase an AR-15 Grendel and it really looks as though it is quite forgiving as well as long as you keep it in it's distance bracket. This one will probably go to another daughter. But I greatly appreciate this channel and thank you very much!
Thanks Jeff! Glad to hear from you as always. I'd say to get that 6.5 Grendel. It's good for deer sized game and smaller at reasonable range and I think it's the best all-around hunting cartridge for the AR-15 platform.
Thank you again, John. I like that both rifles are recoil-forgiving. We want to avoid the girls developing a flinch. I think she'll be happy with the rifle!
By the way, are you on my email list? If you like these videos, you'll probably love my emails. Send me an email at john@thebiggamehuntingblog.com and I'll add you if you haven't already joined
I have them all including .260 Rem, 6.5 Creedmoor, and many 6.5 Grendels.
What I found with the same bullet, same barrel length, the .260 Rem and 6.5CM hit the Grendel's mv at anywhere from 175-225yds.
The question you have to answer is, does the added weight/bulk/recoil, muzzle climb off-target, and reduced brass life justify the additional performance.
Sometimes the answer for me is yes, especially when I'm shooting farther and want higher hit probability from 800-1200yds.
You can bite the heels of the Creedmoor with a 28" barrel and Extended Length Gas System, even shooting 140s.
I prefer my grendel over my creedmoor. Grendel in fusion msr ammo has dropped deer and hogs. Creedmoor I've shot horndady Whitetail and they have run with perfect lung/heart shots. First half of blood trails non existent until the chest filled with blood then easy to follow. Just never had to track with grendel.
I use both in semi automatic platforms the AR-15 and 10 my Grendel is awesome out to around 800 maybe 1000 haven't had a chance yet but my creedmoor shot a 3/4 inch group at 200 yards such and easy rifle to stack rounds on top of each other
Awesome!
I've been a fan of 6.5 sweed since the 80tsy but since then I have a prc and a Grendel they are great but there l think the killing power is from the 6.5 diameter
Thank you for providing a reference sorce for explaining to my friends that even though these cartridges have similar names they are not very much alike.
Glad to help!
I disagree that the 6.5G “slightly” narrows the gap between 223 and 308. It’s really right in the middle between the 223 in terms of caliber, wounding capability, and downrange energy/wind drift. It’s not a “slight” improvement over the 223. It’s a remarkable one
You make a good point, I could have phrased that better
I really like my 6.5 Grendel AR and it sure has been an improvement overall in the AR15 as a battle rifle, the mags have a 25 round capacity and even though you lose 5 rnds of capacity the performance is worth it. If I were to hunt deer the Grendel would work but would feel a .243, 6.5 Creed or better would be more suited and for anything bigger such as Elk or Aoudad you really cant beat a 28 Nosler...
I like my AR-10 6.5 creedmore holds up to 20round magazine. My first choice 🦌
rifle 🤔 the extra 2.5 lbs extra then the AR-15 rifle
Great video! Lots of factual information without being overwhelming. Subbed.
Thanks for the sub!
I have both. The AR 10 creedmore is a beast to carry hunting
Yeah, that's a good point about the AR-10 vs the AR-15
i own both and have hunted white tail and wild hogs with both. I much prefer the 6.5 Grendel i really don't know why but i have found with the grendel everything i shoot drops in it's tracks and with the 6.5 Creedmore we usually have to track the animal. With that being said i have never lost an animal with the Creedmore they usually drop within 100 yards. My longest kill was with the grendel at 408 yards on a 190 lb buck and he dropped right where he stood. Another big advantage to the grendel i find is recoil i hunt with an AR and my son is a small kid so having the versatility of a adjustable stock is great and the low recoil allows us to hunt together with only one rifle.
What ammo have you used most for hunting with your Grendel and Creedmoor?
I love my creedmore
Bought a creedmoor, waiting on my useless government to approve the license. So I'll probs only be able to tell you if I like it next blooming year.
Do one on the .50 Beowulf and .458 Socom or 450 Bushmaster.
Excellent idea! That's in the pipeline!
@@Thebiggamehuntingblog You can borrow my Alexander Arms Tactical complete rifle if you want. I have all the upgrades on it including the tank brake.
How much less recoil does the Grendel have? I the difference significant?
I used 90 gr. Noslers for deer on my 1915 Swede at accuracy load .
What type of Noslers?
Great video. Thanks for the breakdown. 6.5 creedmoor in an ar10 platform for me.
Right on!
The 6.5 grendel is king. It's can do everything hunt. Defense. Longer range. Light recoil. 6.5creed is great also. I love both as much as my 30 06 or 35remington.
100%!
Thank you 😊
You're welcome!
Very good video
Thanks!
Thinking about a short barrel 6.5 Grendel
Any thoughts on 6.5 grendel and 6mm arc? 6mm arc looks good on paper but ive heard accuracy is struggling out of the ar-15 platform which it was touted to be designed for. biggest thing holding me back on grendel is lack of velocity when shooting 123 gr pills. anything smaller than 123 gr the BC seems to suffer.
Go grendel. Highest bc 6arc is 108gr Hornady a tip.velocity 2670fps. Bc .536. 6.5grendel has Federal Gold Medal Match Berger with a bc of .560 130grn at 2550fps. A Much better hevier higher bc bullet moving just as fast. And wolf and ppu makes cheep ammo for 6.5. grendel it's better to use the heavy bullets. They perform better on target at range than any 6arc. 6arc is just a Hornady hype cartridge that does nothing better. But Hornady hypes it like it's some new majic.
Also grendel has over 30 companies making it 6arc has 1. Grendel is a better 556 308 replacement. 6atc is small game cartridge in my opinion. It also isn't popular in Europe like PPUammo and Sellior and bellot ammo. Serbia adopted it militarily. Russia makes arms and ammo for it. Psa is going to continue steel cased ammo production on 6.5grendrl.
Love my 6.5 Grendel AR15, by CMMG. They use a robust BCG to account for the robust power of the round. I've had zero issues with mine.
Word to the wise, use a heavier buffer weight and stiffer spring in your buffer tube or the recoil/kick will do a number on your shoulder and follow up shots will be difficult.
I have a( SaberDefence )mid length 6.5 grendel with 16in chrome lined barrel. Wanted a 18in. It's mil spec upper with dry film in the upper pinned gas block with bayonet lug. Fail zero 6.5grendel nickel boron BCG with (Lantac Dome Cam pin installed) It was a little gassy. So i Contacted (Cozad Manufacturing LLC)and i bought a( Cozad)recoil buffer. It's like a hydraulic buffer but uses no oil. Is mil spec weights h-h4 uses 3springs and a tungsten weight instead of hydraulic fluid. Like kynhot recoil reducing ar15buffer. Cozad Helped my recoil by 25%.it was bad It's been 100% reliable with 26rd(c products). 24rd (ASC) magazines. And Ross defense( uni mag)- now defunct. I think it (Cozad)slows cycling down. And helps recoil. I envy ur cmmg but I have less than 1000$ in my grendel. It's lightweight. It's bcg is 60rockwell. But it's definitely not a power bolt of cmmg. But I'm poor and have to piece together guns. But look up Cozad they are a small veteran business e
With good product. And I put my Frankenstein build against any Daniel defense
I wouldn’t get the grendal I built 2 now 1 with a 20 inch bear creek up and 1 with a palmetto state I can’t get anything better than a 2 inch group at 100 yards out of either 1 loading everything from 85 to 129 grain and every powder in the Hornsby manual
Maybe try a different trigger?
Mini -medium -large -magnum 264wm
I like theme all.
Fair enough
Neither for my hunting and shooting, I love my Swedish M38 Mauser which uses 6.5x55 Swiss
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Which should you use? 6.5x55 handloaded.
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I love my grendal
That is great information. Been looking at 6.5 grendel but also the 6mm arc. I would enjoy your input on a 6mm arc vs 6.5 creed or 6 creed and or 308.
I'm leaning towards the 6mm arc for both my grandsons at ages 5 n 7 since I know they handle my 224 valkyrie well.
Only problem is finding components for 6mm arc. Either way if you go with 6.5 grendel the 115 barnes ttsx is fantastic out of 18 inch barrel gas gun. I do hope howa mini actions do allow for 6mm arc they are only weigh 5.7 pounds and come 20 inch barrel with heavy barrel for longer strings of fire when varmint hunting. They also make a thin barrel option that comes with 22inch barrel. The 95 vmax in grendel is also great for little varmints and coyotes
My 6.5 creedmoor kicks about the same as my 243 but 6.5 is a slightly heavier rifle. If i wanted a deer killer with lowest possible recoil anything in 6mm is good. 6.5 only slightly more kick
I said that backwards. My 243 is a little heavier than my 6.5 creed. Making the recoil almost equal
Anyone have insight on the pricing of the cartridges listed above? I know 6.5 creedmore is usually $1-$2 per round online. Anyone have local prices? I'm trying to decide what caliber to choose either ar10 or ar15 platform
I consider the 6.5 Grendel the perfect replacement for the 30-30. A solid 300 yard white tail round. HOWA has a new 4.4 lbs bolt action in 6.5 Grendel.
You are captivating
Thanks!
6.5 gr vs 243 next
No no no man 6.5 grendel vs 6mm arc.
8mm rem mag vs 325wsm!!
Thanks for the suggestion!
Got the grandel can't fit a creedmore in a AR 15 frame
100% true!
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Neither use 7mm 08
The 7mm08 is my favourite round cheers Yogi Australia 🇦🇺🤟🤟
@@brettstewart5186 very popular in New Zealand, as well.
None I'll use a 458 Socom
6.5 Grendel is unavailable here and probably more expensive. so that is an easy choice
Fair enough
6.5 x55 swed
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6.5 Grendel rocks. Especially now that the government is going away from the 5.56.
100%
Which one should you use ? Answer : BOTH ! . LOL
Nothing wrong with that!
Between these 2 ? Neither. No need to go smaller than 7mm. I mea n the Grendal lags the 243. Makes it a non-starter.
Yes, but the 243 also won't function in an AR-15, which is the whole point of the 6.5 Grendel...
Greath Mister Sir: i agree sub ita and others. Thank you Mister.
You're welcome, thanks for the comment!
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6.5x55 swede
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Grendel will take deer at 400 yds any day
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Neither of those! 6.5x55 trumps both
Does it really?
yes it does@@Thebiggamehuntingblog
Neither. 6.5 x 55 because it is accompanied by a fantastically crafted rifle. The Swedish Mauser M 1896. Not this trash that modern shooters use like cheap AR 15's.
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