Nikola Jokic a TOP-10 player of ALL-TIME!? 🚨 Perk says Jokic is 'coming for the greats' | NBA Today
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 14 พ.ค. 2024
- On NBA Today, Kendrick Perkins, Zach Lowe, Austin Rivers and Udonis Haslem join Malika Andrews to discuss the gravity of what Denver Nuggets All-Star and 3x NBA MVP, Nikola Jokic, is doing having come back from down 2-0 to leading the Western Conference Semifinals, 3-2, in the 2024 NBA Playoffs.
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This is the same guy who said Wolves would sweep. Please go away.
These guys have become so dramatic with these takes.
lol
He said what 2 years ago? Stats padder? This guy is clown 😂🇷🇸
Yea the whole media was disrespectful towards Denver 😒 they are so toxic smh Denver winning this series either in 6 or 7 so it don't matter 💥 they figured out Minnesota! Antman gonna be desperate lol sure let him score his points lmao but.. Denver know they got a deeper roster than the wolves= its over for the wolves!!
He can't be wrong? Everyone commits error. Look at him praising Nikola. No hate, please.
Perk: “I need clips of me praising Jokic so I don’t look like a clown in the future.”😂
Lmao
Srsly. He doesn’t understand there’s no cover
HAhahahhhah literally !
Lol yeah doing the subtle reversal so he wont look like a complete hater. Just wait when Denver or Jokic slides a bit and you ‘ll see this guy diss him immediately 😂
he also said jokic is stat padding xD
They need to stop saying that his game is not attractive. Quickly becoming the most tired statement. Whoever loves ball knows Jokic plays one of the most pure brands of basketball ever - he gets his, makes his teammates better and is HUMBLE. They’re just mad he clears their favourite player by miles.
bro his passing is so insane idk how tf u could call this guy boring.
He is boring
@@Tutsicentalnah
He's the only guy in the league who plays this brand of basketball! I'm tired of this iso ball crap! KD,Bron,Luka,Harden,Russ,Lillard.. it's been 2 decades of iso ball, these mofo haven't gotten tired of this???
That’s bcuz most fans are casuals. True basketball fans see the beauty in his game
Do people really think jokic is boring to watch? I love watching this guy play
Jokic era has begun, and it's more towards team basketball than just ISO scorers from the past few decades.
Casuals and haters say he's boring. But yeah, I don't know how the best passer and scorer in the game can possibly be boring. Every single game he does something that blows my mind, and I've been watching basketball for 30+ years.
Most exciting player to watch since Larry Bird.
I like watching him play too
He has redefined passing from the center position. Russell, Walton and now Joker has taken it to a New level.
it's funny when people say Jokic 'doesn't care'. As we all know, actions speak (much) louder than words.
Jokić cares for the game, he doesnt care for individual records and rewards. He doesn't care for "legacy".
You and rational people might know that, NBA fans are mostly the byproduct of the Lebron mentality era
He cares for the game and his team and winning. He just doesn’t care about the drama that the media creates.
Its ok keast they not bashing him . . His game is sexy to watch thoese back passes that stuff.is gold
Jokic is trolling everyone, he let's his play speak for him , absolutely
Perkins is basing his opinion solely on the most recent game he watched. Next time Jokic has a bad game, Perkins will say he isn't even top 5 right now... smh
Aww these JoFlop fans are so sensitive to other people’s opinions it’s pathetic🤡🤡🤡
@@NotawarriorsfanReguritating the lamest and most tired troll responses ever. Bro still think it's 2020 on Twitter. Mickey mouse ring last year (and about to go back to back), amirite? 🤡
Malika is such a hater, look how she responds to thee word Magnum Opus! she cant believe the compliment. hate on Jokic cus he doesnt speak ebonics and pounds his chest.
Malika is such a hater, look how she responds to thee word Magnum Opus! she cant believe the compliment. hate on Jokic cus he doesnt speak ebonics and pounds his chest.
@@Notawarriorsfan go touch grass
Shaq and Perk about to start beefing 😭
perk knows what he is doing. media personalities just have to move the needle... not necessarily always give great analysis
I agree with Perkins. GOATic is the most skilled center of all time. And he'll likely end up as the greatest center and easily a Top 10 player of all time when he hangs up his shoes.
@@Maver1ck101why do you think people forget about Kareem? Look at his resume lol im just asking because no one talks about him
@BroJ3221 Well, most skilled is different from most accomplished. Skill-wise, Jokic has the complete set compared to Kareem.
Uh oh.. Shaq's ego hurt once more 😂
People don't like him because he's not flashy and in the media! He's an MVP on and off the court, it's just who he is.
And the liberal media doesn't like him because he's white. Theyll never admit it but It's very obvious..
I’m a huge fan of Nikola Jokić but he’s not the greatest Center of all time
he IS flashy, though. some of these passes from him are insane. actual magic/bird stuff.
@@dasher920he will be if he wins 2 more titles and another mvp
@@abel6962He could win 5 championships and still wouldn't be the greatest center of all time!! He is a very skilled center but no where near the greatest!!
Perkins robbed Jokic of his mvp last year.
Facts...yes he did lol
Who would have thought that one of the crappiest players in NBA history would be such an influential TV face? Terrible
Perkins doesn't have a vote though.
Konjina obična.Rasista.
@chitweak18 doesn't matter he lied on national TV and made it about race with false facts put it in the voters heads that its about race if he wins so they voted for Joel instead when joker had better stats then Joel pretty much all the way around and I like embid and wanted him to win mvp but not that way lost so much respect for perk especially cause he doubled and tripled down never apologized then when jj called him out on it stephen a defended perk
It must hurt Perk so much to compliment Jokic
Why would it hurt someone to tell the truth?
@@chitweak18 cause man has hated Jokic forever and cost him mvp last year
@@fluxie11 Embiid's game cost Jokic. Embiid was better
@@quagmir3Jokic won the Finals MVP so Emiid can have that pity trophy
😅😊😊😊😊😊😊😊@@fluxie11
Jokic= Tim Duncan of this era💥 he so humble and he let his game do the talking💯
Aight u smoke a big one right there bruh
He is better then duncan..
I don't really think their games are all that similar.
Humble=lmaooooooo
@@cesartrujillo8813
Offensively yes but defensively not even Close. TD >>>>>>>>>> JK
“Jokic is the face of the league”- Antman
If 3 games takes a guy from “not as good as we thought” “gonna get swept” to “top 10 all time” you’re a prisoner of the moment and shouldn’t be a professional commentator, ridiculous.
I get this argument, the reaction to game 2 was stupid. But three games lebron played against the warriors are the only thing keeping him anywhere close to the goat debate. If he loses any one of those games he’s 0-4 against Steph and the warriors in the finals and only has 3 rings. Playoff series matter, and 3 straight wins can be the difference between greatness and failure.
Wow thank you. First off…I’ve never even heard that concept before: prisoner of the moment.
You just added a real thing to my mainframe. Thank you.
@@thesecondhalfshow9903that’s the same with every great player. The difference between failure and success in the NBA is tiny. Not just unique to Lebron.
They all are
@@Redbrick2424 that was his point..
A lot of people don’t understand what they’re watching. This guy does everything at such a high level. A lot of those who discredit him do so because he looks goofy, isn’t super flashy, and doesn’t have a 40 inch vertical. It doesn’t matter. He’s doing things we’ve never seen before.
No I think most people expect a 7 footer to have a couple of NBA all-defensive selections or at least one DPOY award.
And he does it each and every night
They only familiar to how Curry, LeBron, KD, Harden played.
They don't know what Jokic is doing is higher level than those guys
@@nor-in5kj 😂 Nice try 😂
@@focuz4899
You build the team around Jokic to win championships. Or even more championships.
Curry came close to that.
But to build team around LeBron, KD, Harden is a waste of oxygen.
Hero ball is dead buddy.
Only team basketball will win your team multiple chips
What an absolute masterpiece by jokic. Complete and total domination. An all time great performance. The dude is simply amazing.
🗑
As a warriors fan we do not claim @Notawarriorsfan
As a LAL fan, I can’t stand DEN. But you gotta give them credit. Everyone knows their role and they stay within the job description. Joker is no joke. He sees the game in slow motion. Respect.
You remember when Kobe got Melo in those conference finals. Don’t fret my boy!
A Lakers fan can't stand Den after 1 championship win 😂😂😂😂😂
If you're a LAL fan, then you can't stand LeBron either.
Look at this way. when Denver win the Championship, you would have been beaten out by the best. You should be rooting for the Nuggets. If Nuggets had been swept, what would have that said about Lakers?
@@andytarot I stopped rooting for Lakers once he joined
Jokic makes everyone around him great, he's a great leader along with being a phenomenal player. I think that's what puts him in a category away from guys like Shaq.
Russell and Walton did as well. Though in the latter's case, not for long. Due to injuries.
The media doesn’t like him because he plays the game and beats people guarding him with his footwork, postgame and basketball IQ.
He 🗑
An anomaly in today's game.
@@jblaze1336 He 💩on your favorite player
It’s because of his skin color
LBJ WAS BEST PLAYER ON PLANET 10 YRS AND DIDNT SNIFF 3 MVPS IN A ROW AND JOKE DOES GTFOH, PERK WAS CORRECT
Same guy who said if Jokic won MVP, the award is racist. Gonna need a neck brace from that whiplash.
Now tell me in which episode he said that. You probably cant even tell
Watching Jokic inflict his will was a thing of beauty. There was no way he was going to let his team lose, and Gordon also brought the fury. Hats off to Denver.
I think his game IS attractive, sexy and appealing. I'm a casual, only the last 2 years followed NBA because I'm Irish, but I think Jokic is a genius and phenomenal viewing. He's so intelligent and difficult to guard, has so many levels to his game and is so cerebral on the floor
What about who said he does not deserve a 3rd MVP ?????
Jokic did yesterday a masterclass against a 4-time DPOY.
Legend!
Jokic that was one of the most impressive performances ive ever seen in the playoffs. Haslem is fantastic btw.
Malika is such a hater, look how she responds to thee word Magnum Opus! she cant believe the compliment. hate on Jokic cus he doesnt speak ebonics and pounds his chest.
Shaq diss track incoming.
What about Shaq? Big boy could dunk. But, what else could he do? Not even close to Top 5 center...
@charlesplymail1721 u don't get it lol
Shaq- "I hate the way you walk, the way you talk...."
Joker/perk- "get some therapy"
Charles coming with a song called let's just get along :)
@@charlesplymail1721 Shaq had a really good hook shot and great footwork. He's definitely a top 5 center, to say he's not close is absurd.
Perkins' career average 5pts 5reb 1ast, how did this dude have ANYTHING to say about Jokic MVP last year? They both played the same sport, but they were in totally different leagues.
And both have 1 championship
Jokic is my favorite player. He's like Roger Federer, he turns basketball into an art. His run over the last 4-5 years is GOAT level stuff. The historic efficiency, cerebral play, the impact off ball and the title run last year cemented him as a top 15 player. If the Nuggets pull off the comeback and win this series, I think they're favorites to win the championship. I'm iffy on the Celtics in big games
You mean, he's like Novak Djoković 😂😂😂
💪🏀👑🃏
💪🎾👑🃏
Like Novak of course
Worst comparison I’ve ever heard
@@jrh7741 Which one?
I don't understand how people can love basketball and say his game is not the most exciting to watch. Heck, it's such a joy. His fundamentals, vision, touch, savvy, variety of moves and scoring options and on top of this his humility, he's such a breath of fresh air.
They're just hating. Any one of them would LOVE to have him on their team.
Its crazy that Jokic, as a center, runs the offense and can dominate from anywhere on the floor.
and yet Perk still has Minnesota coming back… make it make sense
Easy math. Perk is just not so bright
if they win game 6 then they will gloat
That is so refreshing to watch.Passing moving without the ball getting teammates involved. It's great to watch.Then the other side of the coin is watching someone dribble dribble and more dribbling and teammates just standing around and watching.
I'm writing up a petition to get perk off of TV smh
I agree. Jokic is the BEST CENTER TO HAVE EVER PLAYED THE GAME!!!! Best big man in passing,shooting, post moves, best center as a ball handler, excellent rebounder and underrated defender.
Best EVER!!!
Kareem ,Wilt Russell,Olajuwon,Shaq this media is a tripping right now
@@emerysutton5430 He's better than all of them. He has way more tools in his toolbox than all of those centers you just mentioned combined. The only advantage that the centers you mentioned have might be more athleticism and better defenders. Other than that Joker would cook all of those guys. Joker is basically a point guard in a centers body with the footwork of a shooting guard and small forward with shooting ability if a stretch 4. Oh...btw...He can cook on the block too. There's no weakpoint in his game. Those other centers you mentioned had limitations.
Free-throw shooting Joker kills all the centers you mentioned. 3-point shooting as well.
@literarypharaoh1117 you can make an argument that Jokic is the most (Offensively) Skilled Center ever
Hakeem Olajuwon is the most Skilled center Ever having no weakness on both sides of the ball
Kareem, Russell, Wilt and Shaq have other reasons that Jokic got more work to do before he passes any of the Top 5
@literarypharaoh1117 how many first team all defense selections has he made. Basketball is both ends...and Jokic is no where near a better defensive player than Olajuwon.
What I am convinced 100% is he is the most intelligen player ever. He understands the game and passes like he knows the future. A center with his vision and passing ability is insane. 2 players come to mind when talking about basketball intelligence. Larry bird and Chris mullin. I am sure there are others but those two had genius level iq. Jokic beats them both.
The thing about Jokic is that when you look at his move it's not the most electrifying. Kareem has better hook shots, Olajuwon has quicker foot work, Shaq is stronger, Yao Ming's jumper has softer touch, and Tim Duncan uses glass more effectively.
But when you guard him, guarding a guy that can use the glass, can go left go right, can shoot mid range can shoot 3, can post up and cut in. You are facing a monster, cuz you cant predict his move, that's the scariest thing about Jokic, he might have no signature move, but he has no weakness he can just do all the fundamental moves efficiently.
He also plays ZERO defense and is going against no other all time greats in this era.
@@Q.B.2.L.B. lebron, antman, who else?
His game is deeper than it looks. He sees through everything. He uses fakes normal people don't even see.
@@Q.B.2.L.B.
2023-24 player defensive rating
1. Gobert 104.4
2. Wemby 105.8
3. Jokić 108.0
4. Nurkic 108.2
5. Holmgren 108.4
6. Adebayo 108.5….
What exactly were you thinking with that claim?
@@Q.B.2.L.B. he is third in defensive rating, what you talking about son? Don’t be dumb
He make our little country so proud. ❤
Also i just wanna say i don’t agree with the narrative that Gobert is doing bad. I really dont even know what you do against Jok rn this dude Rudy is being physical, not biting at fakes and contesting every. Single. Shot. This man is just torching him
Joker is not a true Center. He is more of an orbital player. This is what makes him great. He can rotate into any position on the floor.
no
now suddenly everyone flip flopping again this is so pathetic i cant believe how you can be so late to the party
It’s dumb but he corrected his mistake. He’s giving Jockic flowers.
80% of fans had wolves Winning after gane 2. That's not pathetic lol
@@hintssabbat lmfao then 80% are casuals brother jokic murray mpj were part of one of the most legendary things done in the playoffs in 2020 the only team in NBA history to come back not once but twice from down 1:3 in one playoff run if you really thought it was over at 0:2 not even god can help you its been done 5 times and ill be damned if the greatest offensive weapon isnt able to replicate that when hes done way more unthinkable things
Exactly dudes thought the defending champs would quit like there supposed “GOAT” LBJs
Is it flip flopping when a defending champ hasn't made it past the second round in the past 4 or 5 yrs?
The best part is whether they’re praising him or hating on him, Jokic doesn’t even care.
First time I’ve ever heard Perkins utter anything intelligent.
Joker feeds off the contact. If you foul him, he makes the free throws. If you double team, he makes the perfect kickout or even down to the box. I don’t think you can afford to double team and you can’t play him heads-up. What a game that man has put together
there is no way to stop him, only if his teammates are missing, so it is better to double him
How does Kendrick Perkins get paid to talk Basketball?
He has good takes in specific areas
Cause he actually played it
The only real privilege there is to speak of......
I know. I mean, there has just GOT to be some other former player they can get that's better. They could get a middle schooler who'd do better if they were a ball fan. Even on the rare occasion that he is correct on something, he still manages to blather long enough to still sound stupid despite being right.
@@fidgettx lol anybody can say that if we get specific enough and just look it good takes
I think Perkins is taking a shot at Shaq. He did that on purpose.lol
Shaq will forever be the most dominant center ever
Not only the greatest center but the greatest player ever. He is head and shouder above all player past and present.
MJ is goat
If Jokic played against Wilt you would not be saying he is the greatest. Wilt would dominate him. Jokic is too slow. I love Jokic but he is not in the same league as Wilt.
So dope hearing UD talk about the game
It’s nice to hear all of them saying good things about Jokic. He deserves the praise. 👏🏻
"Witnessing Nikola Jokić's game is a testament to his unique talent. He may not be Kobe or Jordan, but the way he effortlessly dominates the court makes greatness look easy. #JokićMagic #NBA" 🏆🔥💰
jokic is like the messi of basketball- a genius- how can u say its not attractive just because its not above the rim
Messi was a magician. Jokic is not
I’m serious this man is no joke !!!!…NEVER SEEN A CENTER LIKE THIS PERIOD!!!!!
Prisoners of r the moment. There are at least 5 centers better. Kareem, Wilt, Russell, Shaq, Olajuwon. Let Jokic win his second title before stating dumb premature opinions
@@alexandermarquez2177They’re not better lol. They just have better careers than Jokic for now.
@@alexandermarquez2177I'm not sure he said that he's better, he just said he's never seen a center like him. Neither have i. Nonetheless, I can't put him as the best yet, either. His defense doesn't compare to most of the other great C's.
That said, his passing is on another level. As is his shooting range.
@@Amick44 I agree. He is impressive. Let’s just not get ahead of ourselves. I don’t think he has better footwork or moves than the dream. Honestly in my life Hakeem is the greatest center I’ve ever seen. Jokic is on his way for sure.
@@alexandermarquez2177 …your dumb …I HAVE NEVER SEEN A CENTER LIKE HIM is all I said you dummy…GET OUT YOUR HEAD AND YOUR MOTHERS BASEMENT YOU DUMMY…never said he was the greatest …but if anyone said he was I WOULD NOT ARGUE!..so STFU cornball
Its funny how its never about how the Nuggets dominate, its how the other team falls apart.
Christian Braun played great against ANT last night, they're going to play each other a lot over the next decade.
bro we are really about to enter the era of the point centers. The next 20 years of basketball is in good hands.
Finally respect from these podcasters
Jokic for me is the most skilled Center oat. His playmaking/passing ability closes the gap on Hakeem's defense or maybe even greater imo. And he plays decent D also
Kendrick should be the ESPN mascot. He’s a perfect example of the entertainment that is ESPN.
Kendrick Perkins: the only reason Jokic is MVP is because he’s white
Kendrick Perkins: the wolves are going to sweep the nuggets
Also Kendrick: Jokic is the best center EVER 😂😂
Perk covering ALL the bases!
To be fair, sports IS entertainment.
NGL pretty hard listening to Draymond talk about discipline and belief. Them dubs portray as the most strong self belief and they sitting at home like us.
Jokic is so fun to watch because he can wear all the hats in a flash. He likes to involve his teammates and his decision making offensively is a big reason their offensive maneuvers are so effective. He can pivot from directing traffic to taking point and making it happen himself at the drop of a hat. Top 10 player all time. His personal achievements show that. His team is benefiting from his team-first approach.
Like you guys work, just repeat something we already know, and trying to compliment it so hard to another level
Shaq and Perk are going to have a WWE Smackdown 😂
Jokic out here whoopin feet 👣👣
Full court light walk to a slam dunk was gold!!!!
Talk about how Jokic is literally one of the greatest offensive players we have seen instead of about how Rudy could have played better defense on Jokic.
Jokic' will be the GOAT when it's all said and done
lol 😂 no way
Euroclown🤮
What’s unattractive About Jokic’s game? He’s a center with Lebron’s passing, Dirk’s shooting, Hakeem’s footwork, and a zero athleticism. Yet nobody can guard him.
“Lebron passing” is an insult he’s a far superior passer than LeTurnover
These guys change tune like the London weather 😂 😂😂
The way the Nuggets and Jokic play is the key on how you win international games right now like FIBA world cup
udonis killed me policiaa!! hahahahahah
Jokic is a top 10 center
He's definitely the most skilled center ever. I'd say top 5 and pushing to be top 3 imo.
Edit: made this comment before watching the video lol Perk just said exactly this
@@mauroercole6045is defense a skill
ye
@@mauroercole6045 Pushing to be TOP 3 center of all-time after 5 good seasons????
@@KiNGMe21 3x MVP and should have been 4 in a row. Better than Shaq. It's Wilt, Kareem, maybe Hakeem, then Jokic.
Udonis seems like a great addition to the show. Kind of impressive.
Wilt Chamberlain's dominance is safe and sound.
BS
Kareem is not only the greatest Center ever, but hes also the GOAT period!
Jokic would make kareem look like a joke, 50 year gap is a big deal the skill gap would be so clear
Oh you put out a period😂 it’s been Jordan since 1990 and that will never change, and it’s (he is or he’s)
@@jamilnadour7486 I mean at one point it will in 100 years kids will see him as some man from the past and they will have a new goat
@versacepythonz243 but if kareem played in today's game you have to evolutionize his game, and if joker played in kareems time then u gotta take away from his skillset.. can't just plug somebody into an era without evoutionizing how they played, it don't work like that
Kareem best player but play on stack team magic worthy Cooper etc who again jokic play with that all star like tha I just name nobody n Shaq as well who he play with kobe etc both had great coaches n market they play at way better jokic putting the nuggets on the map by himself still get no respect
Shaq: How many rings Chuck?
0
I dont see how ppl say he's not fun to watch do ppl see the shots he's making i mean 50% of his shots shouldn't be going in but some how they do and its so amazing
I miss the 90s
'Policia!' 😂😂
If Jokic wins another ring, he’s arguably 11th-13th all time, next to Steph and Dream.
I like that. And if he wins three he’ll inch closer to top ten. Too many ignoring Bill Russell, Wilt, Shaq, and Kareem in lifting. Jokic too soon-he’s on his way to exaltation though. We’ll see, Murray can be fragile and this can decrease number of rings.
@@22tango79joker 1000x better than bill russel
Steph is in the top 10
@@22tango79 Naw, if we wins 3, he’s top ten without a argument. Even if he wins this year, there’s a legit case he could be ahead of Steph and Hakeem.
@@acegohard4731 I have Steph 12th all time. I’m curious on who you took out the top ten to put Steph in.
More Udonis please 🙏
These are the same people who said last year “you have to make Jokic a scorer”, they were advocating NOT doubling him and guarding the other 4 on the court.
The thing about Jordan is he never had a bad performance that costs his team that series. He didn’t play so poorly that his team lost. He didn’t have a meltdown. I’m looking at Jordan’s 3-pt% when he lost to the Pistons for three straight years.
1988: 1-3
1989: 4-17
1990: 6-21
11-41 = 26.8%
You can’t say, well, Bulls lost because MJ’s 3-pt% sucked. First off, that wasn’t a shot they took frequently at 5-10+ per game from one player. And I’m looking at Isiah and Aguirre’s % in 1989 and they didn’t shoot the three well either at 16.7%. Isiah was a career 29% from three.
Dumars went 0% but only had 5 attempts. The year the Bulls swept the Pistons in 1991, MJ hit 3 out of 5 threes in 4 games. Do you really think that was the winning difference? A 60% from deep after 5 attempts? Surprisingly, Penny Hardaway was never a great 3-pt shooter either. Neither was Grant Hill.
Penny: 31.6%
Grant: 31.4%
The 95-97 had the shorter line and Penny and Grant still had poor 3-pt% while MJ went up to 43% and Tim Legler had over 52% twice. Who knew Legler who was essentially a scrub in the 90s became one of the best people to ever work for ESPN?
John Stockton was a career 38.4% 3-pt shooter. Came from the same draft class as Jordan. He had 6 seasons where he shot the three over 40%. Did you know in his first three seasons, he shot the three at 18.2%, 13.3%, and 17.9%? He only attempted less than 40 per season. Had a higher career 3-pt% than Kobe and LeBron but he’s considered a plumber. 🤣
With LeBron, his poor performance costs his team that 2011 championship. Let’s compare their worst string of runs….
MJ losing 3 straight to Detroit
LeBron losing from 2009-2011
^ I’ll exclude their first three years. Neither one had enough help. MJ went 1-9 in the playoffs those years getting swept twice by Boston but LeBron missed the playoffs during his first two years.
MJ losing to Orlando doesn’t count because MJ still averaged 31 PPG in that series while shooting 47%. It wasn’t like LeBron’s 2007 Finals going 22 PPG, 36% FG, and 6 turnovers. And MJ only had 17 regular season games to go from minor league baseball shape to top class basketball shape. And didn’t MJ avenge Orlando in 1996 🧹? But let’s ignore that and only look at 1995, right Nick Wrong?
I thought Cleveland losing to Orlando in 2009 was worse than LeBron losing in 2010. C’mon, Orlando? The Lakers handled them in 5. I can understand losing to Boston because they had 3 HoFers and already won in 2008. But Orlando? But the bigger letdown was in 2011. LeBron scored 8 points in Game 4. He went Draymond with his triple singles: 8-9-7. Heat only lost by 3. DWade lost the ball at the end.
I don’t understand the MJ-LeBron comparisons? LeBron has so many flaws in his game and in his career and people just look the other way while MJ’s blemishes gets magnified and has double standards held against him. Just admit Jordan was better. LeBron has as many craters to his career as the moon. MJ never lost when a championship was on the line but he’s inferior to LeBron? 🤣
Trust me, nobody will be searching for the next LeBron. It won’t be from his sons either. He’s just a manufactured lie from the media used for clickbait. Such a shame that ESPN betrayed Jordan after he carried SportsCenter for so many years. ESPN put MJ at No. 1 back in 1999 as the greatest athlete of the 20th century. Betrayed him for this Chosen One. I wish Stuart Scott was still alive to school these Bronsexuals. Boo-yah!
Everyone had bad series in thier career. The thing in a 10 year prime mj had the least.
i aint reading all that but happy for u
This is a jokic video my guy
@@spottius666 it was actually insightful. You would listen to a 9:51 long video but can't read a few paragraphs that would take less than 2 mins to read lol.... smh
잊지말아야지 조던 릅 커리 그들은 미국흑인이라는거 사무국의 보호를 받았고 받고 있다는거 그점에서 요키치는 유럽백인의 불리함을 앉고 싸운다는걸
Most skilled center of all time. I didn’t know Kareem existed with 6 MVPS and 6 rings, 2x FMVP, 2nd all time scorer, 2 scoring titles, #3 all time in blocks and rebounds, and arguably the greatest resume in nba history.
Jokic has to accomplish that to be the most talented center of all time
The argument for Jokic is he's doing what he's doing surrounded by 0 all stars or HOF players. Same can't be said for Kareem
to be fair though Kareem got all those stast in the 70's when there were no centers. Jokic would've won 4 MVP's in the 70's and Kareem 3.
No centers in the 70s?????????
Lanier, Moses, Unseld, Chamberlain, Walton, Cowens, Reed?
There was a lot of good centers in the 70s. And all of those are Hall of Famers.
And there was also Gilmore.
Mcadoo averaging 32+ points a game, Dawkins, Sikma. There was a lot of centers in that decade and there was a lot of MVP caliber players like Barry, Erving, West, and a lot more. So 4 MVPS in the 70s is a over statement
Nice to see my boy UD on ESPN!
1,000! Go Jokic!
#DHarderThanO (Imagine if they ejected for missing 6 shots, lol). #GOAT Center? See vid of Dream picking up Kobe 3/4 court & ripping him.
Kareem is the best center ever, he was a student of legendary kung fu master Bruce Lee. Bruce helped him perfect his patented sky hook shooting motion with fluidity like flowing water.
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Jokic will surpass Kareem.
@Maver1ck101 Kareem never surpassed Bill or Wilt. Only that more people saw him play that are still alive.
Thanks God, Perk finally came trough
the way and the outcome of his play.
if he wins a back to back with this team
one of the greatest!!!
NBA Media: SGA deserves the MVP over Jokic
*a few moments later*
NBA Media: Jokic is one of the top-10 centers of all time.
Media is crazy man 😂😂😂
Call a guy 29 years old the greatest center ever is crazy disrespectful with Kareem, Rusell, Shaq and Wilt.
Jokic bag is a bottomless pit. people have been disrespecting how good he is, and the man is ice cold.
i think that was stephan A. Smith lol. Never saw Jordon lose 3 playoffs games in a row nailed that comparision
so he better then Shaq in his prime? Kareem? Olajuwan? naaaw buddy is great but the best ever is wild
I like Wilt, but in case of the level of skill, Joker is far ahead of every center. Wilt was a beast and most dominant presence by far, Shaq was a wrecking ball and the Dream was the smoothest big ever. Don't be biased. Don't compare apples vs pineapples.
Will you opinion change if the nugs 2peat?
@@Astabasta69Olajuwon alone would take him to school
He way better than Shaq
@@nitsujneal Thanks for the laugh 😂 Shaq would manhandle Joker but you are funny. I’ll give you that. It seems you never saw Shaq when he won 3 titles straight. Dude was an unstoppable force.
Stop it. Shaq won 3 chips in a row. ESPN needs to slow down. Let his career play out bfo you make that type of claim.
Forget about Shaq. Kareem has 6 MVPs and 6 rings. In ten years when Joker has 30k points and 15 All Star appearances, a dozen All NBA nods, and a couple more rings, we can talk about the GOAT center. You don't get to put on the crown before you do the work.
In today's salary cap that Lakers team wouldn't have stayed together and they maybe win 2. Maybe. Nuggets win a title, lose Bruce Brown immediately.
Shaq winning 3 in a row isn’t as impressive as jokic if he wins 2 in a row
@@mjwbulichlongevity stats don’t tell who’s better
Perk has come a long way, he starting to make sense ! nice to see him grasping reality.
If he wins 3 finals mvps then maybe we can start having that convo.
If he wins 3 finals MVPs, he surpasses Steph, Hakeem, Shaq, Kobe, Wilt, and Bird in my book. Top 5!
That would put him over Shaq
Jokic number are great because he is not going up against great center. There is no Robinson shaq or Hakkeem to go up against. The center position is dead. He is going up against guys who are 6 feet 9 or 6 feet 8.
Then he's better than Wilt, who is widely considered a top 5 all-time player. Wilt was the tallest player in the league by a couple inches.
@@Paulafan5 Wilt is not considered a top five player according to most people. Jokic hasn't had the longevity of dominance. He has had a great 4 to five years run. The championship they won last year was three play in teams. You cannot put a guy top ten off 1 championship.
Jokic's playing style may conducive to staying healthy over the long-term. He doesn't jump high unless he has to; therefore, less impact stress on his joints when he lands. Compare him to other tall men in the sport who don't have a long playing career or are injured a lot of the time.
1:29 - I think Zach Lowe read my post from before this - I called it Nikola Jokic's Opus.
How is he greatest when he doesn't play defense
Even more crazy. If he doesn't even play defense and they still beat the best teams? That's even more of a statement.
Here we go again with that “but he doesn’t play defense”
Jokic play defense it call offense going work u on that floor tell u to tired do anything else he playing chess not checker why get unnecessary foul when u too valuable on offense smh
Has to avoid foul trouble. He can’t attack every single time at the rim or else teams would exploit this and get him out of the game. He’s got great hands though (steals, blocks)
BS
Kareem is not only the greatest Center ever, but hes also the GOAT period!!
Jordan the goat
@@agoogleuser14_ Jordan #2 GOAT
Karrem is MJs DADDY!!!
Not better than Bron
@@gbone1812yeah bron is better when it comes to first round exit.
Mj>bron>kareem>everyone else
I think all of sports media needs to hold these conversations towards the end of the career of players in order to see their full body of work. The analysis and judgment is preliminary. 🎯
That's why Joker is great, he can do it all. Hi only weakness is low vertical but honestly because of that he uses everything else to perfection!
Jokic said “you know what? I’m coming for you, Shaq!”
3more titiles an 2more finals mvp ways to go youngbuxk