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Constantine needs a shield to get the 40% skill damage reduction and needs to be less than 50% health. Gorgo only has a 10% chance to gain a shield so not really going to apply all that much.
Ppl always taking sht about Marty but he continues to stay relevant 5 years after the games inception. Hahaha hater are gonna hate but that doesn't change the fact that Marty is still used by a bunch of ppl. He's especially used in ark STILL.
I've seen reports of Gorgo/Constantine slapping Nev/Just. Probably advisable to use Greatest Glory to increase normal attack and Lucky Coin to increase the up time of the skill damage reduction.
There is no shot this comment section is actually suggesting pairing Gorgo with CM and Constantine. LIke you guys are deranged or what? ALSO, just because 60GT or any imperium kds uses CM-LIu for garrsion in their kvk doesn't mean it'll work for different kingdoms in different seeds lol. By all means use Gorgo-Constantine or Gorgo-CM. I'll happily join the rallies and get as much free kp as i possibly can.
I keep seeing garrison for flags,passes, etc., for someone who likes to random tp into enemy territory 😅 what’s the current best city garrison for a moderate spender? Is it Theo/YSS still?
I want to be clear that the tone of this is not meant to diminish the hard work of the content creator. That being stated let me get this straight. Gorgo's first skill has a lower rage requirement (900) but she is better if you have her as secondary to Zeno. So essentially there is no value from having that as an element of the skill. 🤔 She is good if the garrison is getting swarmed but trades negative against a rally. I guess I don't understand how that is useful. Why not simply allow the rally to beat or drain the other team by keeping the rally full but never swarming? 😵💫Additionally, Gilga is great counter to Zeno/Gorgo maybe even a better counter then Gilga was to the old Zeno/YSS or Zeno/Flav. 🤯 Also it appears that the meta Cav rally is still a legit option against any Gorgo pair. On the upside we can like that Martel gets some potential use. But that is really only really in the anti-swarm scenario. 🤨Is Gorgo/CM really that much better than CM/Hercalius in that scenario? I kinda feel like word "nuanced" is being used but the term could could easily be switched with "impractical" or maybe "too complicated". In summary the active skill feature (lower rage requirement) is not effective as she needs to be secondary. She doesn't have a pairing that consistently enough counters the cav rally. If you aren't happy to just let Nev/Justinian try it's luck against a Gorgo garrison you can now reach back and get great value out of what was practically a completely irrelevant archer commander (Gilgamesh) by letting him be the easy answer to her as garrison. I mean..... she sounds like the equivalent of Cheok Jun-gyeong in terms of "must have" value. She does well in the field but that is anecdotal and yet to be demonstrated. Even if truns out to be the case it begs the question "why is she an MGE commander?" It seems like the silver lining on this mushroom cloud is that Lilith can take solace in the fact that Gorgo is evidence that not every new commander accelerates power creep.
I guess they released a commander that is heavily anti-swarm but still on par against current meta rallies (Martell v2?). Given swarming is also meta - usually it means you are overpowered in the field and need to survive longer - it seems like a good improvement.
I don't know if you have recently been in a kvk or not but "good if garrison is getting swarmed" is massive since swarm is meta right now and almost every garrison is mass swarmed if possible. If she trades as positive against swarm as the testing shows, that is big as she looks to trade decent against the meta rally and to be able to have a standoff instead of your garrison swarmed down quickly can be the difference to keeping territory during less active times and being overrun as every garrison gets swarmed down after a minute.
@@kubigariya111 From the testing it holds up as well or better than anything out there to the meta rally and since swarm is so strong now, often rallies were barely or not even used, you let the rally hit to tank and then just swarm stuff down. Hopefully this will return us in some way to rally/garrisoning as a thing, other than passes where swarm is not available.
I was just wondering. If you get swarmed it does not matter. Gorgo will still get the boost if she is first because of the very fast skill cycle. But for rallies. Say Gorgo has a 8 second cycle and CM 9 seconds. That is 12.5% better but no boost. Not convinced that you not rather have the slow cycle. Maybe it is better, but it would be nice to see tests.
What about gorgo dito using the strategium gear and changing either gorgo or dito to the opposing element. Being as both commanders benefits from the swarm
I would change the talent builds proposed... with gorgo you NEED the double-headed axe talent from infantry tree... +0.5 normal damage is insane for smith commanders
Totally depends on your situation and what you already have. Are you FTP or a spender? What are you fielding with now? How many heads have you saved? How far away is your next kvk?
@@ngocquoc2828 Yeah? How did that happen when Gorgo has a faster rage cycle and does 2300 vs scipios 2000? Not to mention she will reduce scipios dmg by 20%. You are literally lying lmao. Scipio/liu che isnt even the best pair for liu che. It’s sargon if you don’t have gorgo.
Video 3 of asking please make a video about Marget and Babur. They were recently buffed. 400 active skill damage to Babur’s active skill was added as well as some extra stats. Marget was also buffed. 300 damage factor was added over time to her active skill.
Ngl. Gorgo seems like an L. Time to get out of the inf game. Also, I wish chis wouldn’t shoot from the hip on these talent builds. Doesn’t seem as thoughtful as his days of old. Still love the guy though.
So you must not understand how an ark practice match works. You cannot change your talents mid March. The fact that Gorgo does well even with suboptimal talents tells you she is actually very good in field. Extremely valuable information.
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Can you please please please make a video about zeno gorgo VS gorgo constantine as garrison please?
Make Martell great again
I saw some Constantine reports and they were dominating
I knew Charles would be good. Try Contantine please. Gorgo has a 20% skill damage reduction and constantine has a 40% skill damage reduction.
Yes plz
Do gorgo tests with cm and consta with full relic buffs
To conclude whether cm and consta are good or not
That will be super good 🤩
Constantine needs a shield to get the 40% skill damage reduction and needs to be less than 50% health. Gorgo only has a 10% chance to gain a shield so not really going to apply all that much.
@@treebeard4012 still gotta test it with the right equipment
60% sheesh
ghh teasing me with the little bit of field testing. That's what I've been searching for the last 2 days
Ppl always taking sht about Marty but he continues to stay relevant 5 years after the games inception. Hahaha hater are gonna hate but that doesn't change the fact that Marty is still used by a bunch of ppl. He's especially used in ark STILL.
hey chis, love the vid! could u please make a video on grand prix bets?
I've seen reports of Gorgo/Constantine slapping Nev/Just.
Probably advisable to use Greatest Glory to increase normal attack and Lucky Coin to increase the up time of the skill damage reduction.
Would this work with Takeda?
Sarence use level 3 units and atak a city
Can you please please please make a video about zeno gorgo VS gorgo constantine as garrison please?
Can you sim gorgo with ceasar in a long rally with desperate elegy? Should almost be 100% uptime on ceasar active + relic = 50% all dmg
Field test?
Why not try testing for gorgo/martel? And we can find the best result
Finally my gilgamesh might be useful again 😅
Grogo CM 3rd inf march just to get free KP because you don't want to hit it but you kinda have to?
Need more open field tests Gorgo!
crazy thing is is that nevksy justin melts under swarm.
half a year later and you almost never see a garrison different than gorgo
There is no shot this comment section is actually suggesting pairing Gorgo with CM and Constantine. LIke you guys are deranged or what? ALSO, just because 60GT or any imperium kds uses CM-LIu for garrsion in their kvk doesn't mean it'll work for different kingdoms in different seeds lol. By all means use Gorgo-Constantine or Gorgo-CM. I'll happily join the rallies and get as much free kp as i possibly can.
Any testing with Liu primary and Gorgo Secondary? (both Maxed), for field fighting?
I keep seeing garrison for flags,passes, etc., for someone who likes to random tp into enemy territory 😅 what’s the current best city garrison for a moderate spender? Is it Theo/YSS still?
Hera yss, Theo yss isn’t meta for quite some time
I want to be clear that the tone of this is not meant to diminish the hard work of the content creator. That being stated let me get this straight. Gorgo's first skill has a lower rage requirement (900) but she is better if you have her as secondary to Zeno. So essentially there is no value from having that as an element of the skill. 🤔 She is good if the garrison is getting swarmed but trades negative against a rally. I guess I don't understand how that is useful. Why not simply allow the rally to beat or drain the other team by keeping the rally full but never swarming? 😵💫Additionally, Gilga is great counter to Zeno/Gorgo maybe even a better counter then Gilga was to the old Zeno/YSS or Zeno/Flav. 🤯 Also it appears that the meta Cav rally is still a legit option against any Gorgo pair. On the upside we can like that Martel gets some potential use. But that is really only really in the anti-swarm scenario. 🤨Is Gorgo/CM really that much better than CM/Hercalius in that scenario? I kinda feel like word "nuanced" is being used but the term could could easily be switched with "impractical" or maybe "too complicated". In summary the active skill feature (lower rage requirement) is not effective as she needs to be secondary. She doesn't have a pairing that consistently enough counters the cav rally. If you aren't happy to just let Nev/Justinian try it's luck against a Gorgo garrison you can now reach back and get great value out of what was practically a completely irrelevant archer commander (Gilgamesh) by letting him be the easy answer to her as garrison. I mean..... she sounds like the equivalent of Cheok Jun-gyeong in terms of "must have" value. She does well in the field but that is anecdotal and yet to be demonstrated. Even if truns out to be the case it begs the question "why is she an MGE commander?" It seems like the silver lining on this mushroom cloud is that Lilith can take solace in the fact that Gorgo is evidence that not every new commander accelerates power creep.
I guess they released a commander that is heavily anti-swarm but still on par against current meta rallies (Martell v2?).
Given swarming is also meta - usually it means you are overpowered in the field and need to survive longer - it seems like a good improvement.
I don't know if you have recently been in a kvk or not but "good if garrison is getting swarmed" is massive since swarm is meta right now and almost every garrison is mass swarmed if possible. If she trades as positive against swarm as the testing shows, that is big as she looks to trade decent against the meta rally and to be able to have a standoff instead of your garrison swarmed down quickly can be the difference to keeping territory during less active times and being overrun as every garrison gets swarmed down after a minute.
@@winstonwolf6791totally agree anti-swarm is great for a garrison but less relevant if the garrison can't decently defend against the rally.
@@kubigariya111 From the testing it holds up as well or better than anything out there to the meta rally and since swarm is so strong now, often rallies were barely or not even used, you let the rally hit to tank and then just swarm stuff down. Hopefully this will return us in some way to rally/garrisoning as a thing, other than passes where swarm is not available.
@@kubigariya111It isn't really that hard to put two garrisons in a flag or pass and switch based on what's happening on the field.
Wouldn't CM first make more sense to boost the damage of gorgo?
Definitely
Pretty sure he explained that in the video
@@timwright9429 Martel must be primary anyway. In swarm you will cast active skill every 5 sec so doesn't matter 900 rage requirement
I was just wondering. If you get swarmed it does not matter. Gorgo will still get the boost if she is first because of the very fast skill cycle.
But for rallies. Say Gorgo has a 8 second cycle and CM 9 seconds. That is 12.5% better but no boost. Not convinced that you not rather have the slow cycle. Maybe it is better, but it would be nice to see tests.
Dunno why but i feel like Gorgo\ Scipio will perform rally good in murderballs. Can you try to test?
Hey chis, I’m about to enter pre kvk. I have 180k season coins and I’m gonna get my first accessory for nev/joan, witch one should I get?
Can we get a new rally/garrison guide given that there are new commanders since your last one?
Did I miss the swarm test against gorgo/YSS or was that one forgotten about?
yss is just worse hera
@@TJMiton was hoping I could get away with gorgo YSS being decent but maybe not haha thanks
Who is more relevant investment now, Guan yu + Scipio Prime or Sicipio Prime + Liu Che ?
Scipio/Liu Che
Its a Shame that you have to play cavalry in order to have good results since it is lilith favorite
how's she with Flavius?
I couldn't find any tests
What about gorgo dito using the strategium gear and changing either gorgo or dito to the opposing element. Being as both commanders benefits from the swarm
What generation of commander is Gorgo classed as?
Wait. Armament doesn’t take effect in ark? 😮
Please make a video ranking top garrison commanders
I would change the talent builds proposed...
with gorgo you NEED the double-headed axe talent from infantry tree...
+0.5 normal damage is insane for smith commanders
nice
We already know Gorgo will not be good
Stop playing Cav still gunna clap 😅
Can you test Liu/Leo ??
I've been saying this, Leonidas might be busted
I want to see how he will do if he did well with guan inn the pass he can be good with Liu especially in murder ball because everyone is targeting Liu
Need gorgo open field test 🙏
Already made a vid about that :)
Hey chisgule turkish translate.
U guys think gorgo will be better than sargon in a field fight?
She is I've tested it in kvk
I think attack formation will be the best if gorgo is main commander
Is that double relic charles?
So what we learned is that Chisgule is way to narrow minded LOL. Charles for the Win! 😂
I thought gorgo is primarily
Try it with Constantine
I have an question Should my First big commander be scipio Prime or liu Che?
Scipio as he is way more beneficial for your allies
Totally depends on your situation and what you already have. Are you FTP or a spender? What are you fielding with now? How many heads have you saved? How far away is your next kvk?
Someone said leo would be good as well
4:22 was that some kind of flickering on your part
Yep.
Charles primary pls, he boost damage 30% for 4 sec so he can boost gorgo smite damage by huge
As Chisgue explained - Gorgo has less rage requirement to cast skill - therefore you still skill cycle again within Charles "Damage Boost"
@@AriesYT420 In swarm yes you right, but 1v1 Charles need to be first
Thank you for the content!
Field test chis
First comment 😁
try Gorgo and Leo as Garrison
Yeah being husband and wife I would be interested in seeing how they perform together.
Gorgo open field !
Not a must have commander, field fight not really strong..most ppl can just skip
She's incredibly strong in field actually. Gorgo/Liu che is a monster in field. Similar in effectiveness to boudica/zhuge
@@TheLarknessMonster nope my non max tech scipio liuche rekt one maxed gorgo liu
@@ngocquoc2828 Yeah? How did that happen when Gorgo has a faster rage cycle and does 2300 vs scipios 2000? Not to mention she will reduce scipios dmg by 20%. You are literally lying lmao. Scipio/liu che isnt even the best pair for liu che. It’s sargon if you don’t have gorgo.
@@TheLarknessMonster my scipio liu gives 3:1 trade everytime im good no need Gorgo
@@ngocquoc2828 That's like saying your atilla/takeda trades 3:1 everytime no need to get nevsky tbh. But to each his own.
First
M first
Defo need a Gorgo/Consta test
Hi
How many inscriptions can an armament have on it? For example, can you inscribe (even more than once?) an armament that is already double inscribed?
You can only add 1 inscription and that replaces the existing one. And if it is a double inscription you will replace both
Thank you! Very helpful
thanks for the info@@timwright9429
I've very curious about attila gorgo in the field. Especially since attila is ignored most of the time.
It's a really hard thing to test since only 2 KvKs allow you to switch the commander troop type using artifacts.
we need fild test
Yep!! Soon!
Video 3 of asking please make a video about Marget and Babur. They were recently buffed. 400 active skill damage to Babur’s active skill was added as well as some extra stats. Marget was also buffed. 300 damage factor was added over time to her active skill.
Ngl. Gorgo seems like an L. Time to get out of the inf game. Also, I wish chis wouldn’t shoot from the hip on these talent builds. Doesn’t seem as thoughtful as his days of old. Still love the guy though.
what's the point of testing field with garrison tree? This is dumb
So you must not understand how an ark practice match works. You cannot change your talents mid March. The fact that Gorgo does well even with suboptimal talents tells you she is actually very good in field. Extremely valuable information.
plz
Do gorgo tests with cm and consta with full relic buffs
To conclude whether cm and consta are good or not