Nice concise video. I've replaced all seals on my yellow fendered 580k except for the swing and loader curl cylinders. The dipper cylinder was extremely tough to take the gland off even with torches. A 10' (yes 10 ft) pipe broke the 1" breaker bar trying to get the piston cap screw loosed. Ended up taking it to a hydraulic shop that had a hydraulic press. They ended up heating it so hot that I couldn't touch it for almost 2 hours. I was happy to pay the $50 they charged just for unscrewing the piston!
So its not just me its the dipper. I went to hell and back with that mo fo. I went through two jacks , a cable, the back window of my 7.3 (1500 lbs in the bed) and 3 of the spread wrenches. Bent third one in half. I tried heat and failed. I gave up and let it set for few months. I learned that more heat might do it. We took two torches to it. I welded a heavy chunk of L bar to the gland so we could grab it We brought it to a bright orange. Right on the edge of blowing holes in it. And it turned. we had to keep it that way till we freed it. Shot threads had two replace
Yep sometimes they put lock tight on the thread so you need to icy torch heat the end of the bolt which cooks the lock tight off, another good tip is it the grub screw is on the opposite side where you can’t see it well I pin punch two dots on the side you can’t see, that way when you put the gland nut on you can’t align up the grub screw a lot easier 🇦🇺🤙
2 things you used a hammer and chisel to loosen the cylinder head which can be clearly seen in the close up shots and the second thing always wear gloves when working with hydraulic oil.
Nice video. I have a 580K that the bucket cylinder is leaking. I appreciate how thorough you are and the commentary. I'm pretty sure I can tackle now after watching this. Thanks!
Hey thanks. I’m actually replacing the seals on the bucket cylinder tomorrow on my 580k. Going to make a video on some tips for removing the gland nut. Thanks for watching.
@@JacobsFarmLife awesome, looking forward to the video. I’m trying to figure out how big of an impact socket I need to get for the piston bolt before I tear it down. A source and a part number for your kit would also be helpful.
Great job explaining this process. I work for Hercules Sealing Products. I actually machine any custom seals customers order. I be seen every kind of seal imagined but it’s great to see the application of the seals💪
Excellent vid - thx for taking the time to make! I've got a mid to late 80's JCB. Giant nut on the cylinder instead of the Case approach with the holes. Haven't ever been able to break those nuys loose. Even with a large pipe wrench and an extended handle for leverage !!
great video . i just purchased one and i was questioning if i can take the nutt off and then use the back hydraulic hose to push the piston . turn the engine and move the lever and push it out faster and ease
Where is the valve that keeps the boom from randomly swinging side to side? Mine wont stay in one spot. Always hammer around gland nuts before you try to break them loose.
I had a buffering ring on mine when I tore it apart underneath the wiper seal. I know it was in a spot that it shouldn't off been in. I couldn't find a spot for the buffer ring to go when I rebuilt with a new seal kit
Could you turn the arm to the right when it was leaking? I have a small leak and It doesn't work. Do you think I should do that what you did in your video?
Fantastic video. I had to repack the same cylinder on the same machine and this was very helpful. Have you had any experience with the hydraulic pump or the relief valve? I believe I have an issue with one or the other. I know the location of the pump, but I don't know the location of the main relief valve. Can you point me in the right direction? It's very difficult to find information on this specific machine. Any help would be much appreciated.
I and a friend just rebuilt hoses and rebuilt one cylinder on our Case 580K, have one outrigger seal leaking so have to take it apart and replace seals. We ran extend-boom out and in and other cylinders. Does this backhoe have self-bleeding set up? So, just run each cylinder out and hold for awhile. Let air run back into fluid holding tank? Do you need to bleed at each cylinder hose fitting and or push bleed valve on cap at hydraulics holding tank at set intervals to release air. Or does just running booms out and in release air to its desired level. Thanks, enjoyed your video’s.
Well my Dad just informed me it's not a k model it's a b model will that make a difference getting the cylinders out, it has a plate across the top of the cylinders with grease fittings on top on each cylinder
Yes the part number for the seal kit is G110053 which is for the 3 1/4 inch Tube ID but if yours has the 3 1/2 inch Tube ID it will be G110621. Hope that helps
I just asked that question too, before I saw your question. Was wondering if all that air after rebuilding system would damage seals. Guess not. God bless
Great video, thanks for sharing. I have the same backhoe! Do you how long should this job take a professional Case Mechanic? Just an estimate, as I was quoted 40+ hours of labor.....?? Thank you, Doug
Yea I would go somewhere else lol. Took me about 5 hours while filming it. So someone that does it for a living should have it done in 2 or less I would say.
Thanks for the vid. I noticed that the old vs. new piston seals were different. The old had two in two grooves. The new you put one over the other in 1 of the grooves. Was that last new one you put over the other new one a wear ring and should have went into that other groove instead?
Thank you for your detailed video, comes in handy. If both cylinders need new seals can both cylinders be taken off at the same time or is it wise to do one at a time?
I had to rebuild a ram also on a skidsteer tho but I always thought there's more to them than that but apparently not suprisingly easy to rebuild when you put the wiper seal in correctly I'm guilty
I agree. Really not that back. Especially after you do a few of them. Getting the gland to break loose on 30 + year old equipment is probably the hardest part.
Anyone have a clue how the extenda hoe line is rute to the bottom of the boom the retraction (lower of the 2 ) someone removed it and now Im not sure how its routed I think there is even a skid plate?
Bought them at a local case equipment dealer. They have since went out of business. I’ve got a couple more cylinders I need to rebuild so I’ll have to be looking for a new place to order from.
I also have a 580K and have been getting my seals from Hercules Sealing Products. they have a drop down menu to select by brand and model. I also bought a seal twister from them which makes installing that first seal he put in real easy. This video is appreciated as my swing cylinders are starting to drip when parked. The machine is over 100 miles away at my property so gives me an idea what to expect. First two cylinders (boom& dipper) that leaked I paid a guy to rebuild and glad I did. He had a lot of difficulty getting the piston bolt off. I rebuilt one of the bucket curl cylinders myself and was easier than I expected.
@@JacobsFarmLife After I watched your video I had to repack one of my stabilizer cylinders on my 580k. I ordered from brokentractor.com. They sell Bulldog seals, at least that’s what it was for that part. Fair prices I would say. The cylinder has held the stab up for at least two weeks between uses, so no complaints.
I bought a 1966 ck 530 case 180 Diesel Backhoe I have a 6 month service plan we're case service comes out to the farm and service the Backhoe every 6 months to keep every thang working that way I can be doing other jobs
@@JacobsFarmLife "Makes it easier". ..I would say "makes it possible to", probably, no? Because @John maxx, if you don't remove at least the one line that feeds the space behind the piston, you wouldn't be able to pull the rod out, unless your piston seals are trashed too, because as you try to remove the rod, there will be a vacuum there.
Looking at several "OLD" but unfortunately not cheap back hoes. I am sure this repair will have to be made some time soon. Just waiting for weather to clear up some. A northeaster coming this weekend & all my work is done outside. Full view & 👍 558 Well it will be new material for my channel. Stay safe, Joe Z
Nice concise video. I've replaced all seals on my yellow fendered 580k except for the swing and loader curl cylinders. The dipper cylinder was extremely tough to take the gland off even with torches. A 10' (yes 10 ft) pipe broke the 1" breaker bar trying to get the piston cap screw loosed. Ended up taking it to a hydraulic shop that had a hydraulic press. They ended up heating it so hot that I couldn't touch it for almost 2 hours. I was happy to pay the $50 they charged just for unscrewing the piston!
So its not just me its the dipper. I went to hell and back with that mo fo. I went through two jacks , a cable, the back window of my 7.3 (1500 lbs in the bed) and 3 of the spread wrenches. Bent third one in half. I tried heat and failed. I gave up and let it set for few months. I learned that more heat might do it. We took two torches to it. I welded a heavy chunk of L bar to the gland so we could grab it We brought it to a bright orange. Right on the edge of blowing holes in it. And it turned. we had to keep it that way till we freed it. Shot threads had two replace
Yep sometimes they put lock tight on the thread so you need to icy torch heat the end of the bolt which cooks the lock tight off, another good tip is it the grub screw is on the opposite side where you can’t see it well I pin punch two dots on the side you can’t see, that way when you put the gland nut on you can’t align up the grub screw a lot easier 🇦🇺🤙
What a good job producing this video!!!
I appreciate you.
You have the cleanest mechanic hands ever. Thanks for the video, gonna go tackle this now
2 things you used a hammer and chisel to loosen the cylinder head which can be clearly seen in the close up shots and the second thing always wear gloves when working with hydraulic oil.
Nice video. I have a 580K that the bucket cylinder is leaking. I appreciate how thorough you are and the commentary. I'm pretty sure I can tackle now after watching this. Thanks!
Hey thanks. I’m actually replacing the seals on the bucket cylinder tomorrow on my 580k. Going to make a video on some tips for removing the gland nut. Thanks for watching.
@@JacobsFarmLife awesome, looking forward to the video. I’m trying to figure out how big of an impact socket I need to get for the piston bolt before I tear it down. A source and a part number for your kit would also be helpful.
I’ll let you know.
@@hobel73 ITHINK HE SAID 1 1/8 '' ON THAT ON THE SWING CYLINDER.
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Very good illustration
Thanks
Great Video for the guys who have never had any experience with them, I've done a few too many.
Great job explaining this process. I work for Hercules Sealing Products. I actually machine any custom seals customers order. I be seen every kind of seal imagined but it’s great to see the application of the seals💪
Thanks man
I, bought a 1966, case Ck 530 Backhoe 180 Diesel will be helpful on the farm
They are very useful on the farm
Excellent vid - thx for taking the time to make! I've got a mid to late 80's JCB. Giant nut on the cylinder instead of the Case approach with the holes. Haven't ever been able to break those nuys loose. Even with a large pipe wrench and an extended handle for leverage !!
Hey thanks. I’ve had to go the pipe wrench route before lol. Might need a little heat on that one.
Our 580L has the exact same leak and the main boom lift cylinder is losing pressure so I assume it’s about to blow out too.
great video . i just purchased one and i was questioning if i can take the nutt off and then use the back hydraulic hose to push the piston . turn the engine and move the lever and push it out faster and ease
Where is the valve that keeps the boom from randomly swinging side to side? Mine wont stay in one spot.
Always hammer around gland nuts before you try to break them loose.
Well done Yung man , nothing ventured, nothing gained.
Was using our 580 Super M yesterday, and damned if the exact same one didn't blow a seal! Puked all my new fluid out before I noticed it to.
That sucks when that happens
I had a buffering ring on mine when I tore it apart underneath the wiper seal. I know it was in a spot that it shouldn't off been in. I couldn't find a spot for the buffer ring to go when I rebuilt with a new seal kit
Excellent job thanks for sharing your knowledge and experience Jacob
What is called the tool you order from Amazon
Thank you so much for making this video. Nick
No problem
Could you turn the arm to the right when it was leaking? I have a small leak and It doesn't work. Do you think I should do that what you did in your video?
Mine still worked when it was leaking.
Thanks, one of mine is leaking on my 530 CK. I need to attempt rebuild soon so hopefully this helps. Thanks!
No problem. Let me know how it goes.
Fantastic video. I had to repack the same cylinder on the same machine and this was very helpful. Have you had any experience with the hydraulic pump or the relief valve? I believe I have an issue with one or the other. I know the location of the pump, but I don't know the location of the main relief valve. Can you point me in the right direction? It's very difficult to find information on this specific machine. Any help would be much appreciated.
Thanks. I have no experience with the pump or valve. But I’ll probably be replacing both on my machine in the future
I and a friend just rebuilt hoses and rebuilt one cylinder on our Case 580K, have one outrigger seal leaking so have to take it apart and replace seals. We ran extend-boom out and in and other cylinders. Does this backhoe have self-bleeding set up? So, just run each cylinder out and hold for awhile. Let air run back into fluid holding tank? Do you need to bleed at each cylinder hose fitting and or push bleed valve on cap at hydraulics holding tank at set intervals to release air. Or does just running booms out and in release air to its desired level. Thanks, enjoyed your video’s.
Exactly what I needed to see except the new rod seal I have is as hard as a rock with zero flex. Hmmm... dang.
Heat some water on the stove and drop the seal into it until it softens ;)
How do you assure there is no pressure left in the lines before repairing?
With the machine off. Just hit the pedals a couple of times and it will relieve any pressure if there is any
I have an older 580 k the swing cylinder just blew the seals out can this cylinder be pulled out so I can take it to be rebuilt
Yes you can simply unbolt both ends and remove both hydraulic lines and it comes right out.
@@JacobsFarmLife thank you for the fast reply I will do that
Awesome. Let me know how it goes
@@JacobsFarmLife thanks so much I sure will
Well my Dad just informed me it's not a k model it's a b model will that make a difference getting the cylinders out, it has a plate across the top of the cylinders with grease fittings on top on each cylinder
Nice video thank you very much, can you put partnumber for the kit? I have the same problem. Thank you
Yes the part number for the seal kit is G110053 which is for the 3 1/4 inch Tube ID but if yours has the 3 1/2 inch Tube ID it will be G110621. Hope that helps
Really nice job repairing that cylinder, man. Impressive knowledge of hydraulic seals too! Seems like you’ve done this many times…
Hey thanks..
Appreciate the vid man! Just bought a backhoe and need to do this to one of my swing cylinders. Very helpful and very well made video too!
Hey thanks a lot. Hope it helps ya
Might be a dumb question but do you have to bleed the air out of the cylinder after reinstalling or will the fluid push the air out, thanks
The fluid will push the air out. Just cycle it a few times.
I just asked that question too, before I saw your question. Was wondering if all that air after rebuilding system would damage seals. Guess not. God bless
Can you post the part number for the seal
Great video, thanks for sharing. I have the same backhoe! Do you how long should this job take a professional Case Mechanic? Just an estimate, as I was quoted 40+ hours of labor.....?? Thank you, Doug
Yea I would go somewhere else lol. Took me about 5 hours while filming it. So someone that does it for a living should have it done in 2 or less I would say.
Thanks for the vid. I noticed that the old vs. new piston seals were different. The old had two in two grooves. The new you put one over the other in 1 of the grooves. Was that last new one you put over the other new one a wear ring and should have went into that other groove instead?
Thank you for your detailed video, comes in handy. If both cylinders need new seals can both cylinders be taken off at the same time or is it wise to do one at a time?
You should be fine doing both at the same time.
I guess that I'll be doing this some day to my Backhoe or call the case service trk out to do the job eather way
Thanks for the video
I had to rebuild a ram also on a skidsteer tho but I always thought there's more to them than that but apparently not suprisingly easy to rebuild when you put the wiper seal in correctly I'm guilty
I agree. Really not that back. Especially after you do a few of them. Getting the gland to break loose on 30 + year old equipment is probably the hardest part.
Anyone have a clue how the extenda hoe line is rute to the bottom of the boom the retraction (lower of the 2 ) someone removed it and now Im not sure how its routed I think there is even a skid plate?
where did you buy your parts? online or local?
Bought them at a local case equipment dealer. They have since went out of business. I’ve got a couple more cylinders I need to rebuild so I’ll have to be looking for a new place to order from.
I also have a 580K and have been getting my seals from Hercules Sealing Products. they have a drop down menu to select by brand and model. I also bought a seal twister from them which makes installing that first seal he put in real easy. This video is appreciated as my swing cylinders are starting to drip when parked. The machine is over 100 miles away at my property so gives me an idea what to expect. First two cylinders (boom& dipper) that leaked I paid a guy to rebuild and glad I did. He had a lot of difficulty getting the piston bolt off. I rebuilt one of the bucket curl cylinders myself and was easier than I expected.
@@JacobsFarmLife After I watched your video I had to repack one of my stabilizer cylinders on my 580k. I ordered from brokentractor.com. They sell Bulldog seals, at least that’s what it was for that part. Fair prices I would say. The cylinder has held the stab up for at least two weeks between uses, so no complaints.
Awesome. Thanks for the info. I’ll check them out
Part number for the seals plz
I bought a 1966 ck 530 case 180 Diesel Backhoe I have a 6 month service plan we're case service comes out to the farm and service the Backhoe every 6 months to keep every thang working that way I can be doing other jobs
That’s nice
Part number for the seals plz
Good work, just after the book... 💪💪💪
Thank you sir!
My pleasure
thank you very much
thank you
thank, you for you're video
Great video
Job well done!👍👍🚜
Thank you sir
If you didn't remove the actual cylinder you just loosened it and pulled it apart why did you disconnect the hoses
Makes it easier to pull and install the shaft and piston.
@@JacobsFarmLife makes. Sense
@@JacobsFarmLife "Makes it easier". ..I would say "makes it possible to", probably, no? Because @John maxx, if you don't remove at least the one line that feeds the space behind the piston, you wouldn't be able to pull the rod out, unless your piston seals are trashed too, because as you try to remove the rod, there will be a vacuum there.
Great job, thanks for posting. 👍🏻🇨🇦
Thanks for watching
Nice man 🙏🏼
Thanks
@@JacobsFarmLife i hope next videos, u can explain how to overhaul diesel engine backhoe loader man, 🙏🏼🙏🏼
Looking at several "OLD" but unfortunately not cheap back hoes. I am sure this repair will have to be made some time soon.
Just waiting for weather to clear up some. A northeaster coming this weekend & all my work is done outside.
Full view & 👍 558
Well it will be new material for my channel.
Stay safe, Joe Z
Good deal.. Thanks for watching
@@JacobsFarmLife you're welcome.
That’s a cute hammer
There’s the right sized hammer for every job.
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